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Posted to general@logging.apache.org by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> on 2012/07/05 08:42:01 UTC
Re: Logging Site
Any update on this? Can we replace logging.apache.org with what is at loggingtest.apache.org?
Ralph
On Jun 22, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Scott Deboy wrote:
> I'll wait for a bit more feedback and then follow-up on the infra dev mailing list. They would like to see an actionable plan and have it approved there, at which point I'll update the Jira issue with the actionable steps.
>
> I'm on vacation this coming week, but I'll check in when I can.
>
> Thanks for helping out with this, Christian, it's great to see Chainsaw maybe move along as well.
>
> Scott
>
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Scott Deboy <sc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I've posted a question to the infra-dev mailing list on the best location
> > for the jnlp file and jars (the only infra requirement is a mime type
> > mapping for jnlp files), we'll see what response we get.
> >
> > The other half of the issue is for new releases of Chainsaw, we need a new
> > code signing cert, preferably provided and managed by infra.
> >
> > I filed (INFRA-3991) Request for code signing certificate about nine months
> > ago, with no feedback. Today, Sam Ruby responded that we need to provide an
> > actionable plan for how the code signing could take place.
> >
> > After discussing with Tony on #asfinfra, infra would like to build binaries
> > themselves and sign them, after being given a path and svn revision and
> > proof of the vote.
> >
> > I also suggested we provide them with hashes so they can verify that what we
> > reviewed matches what they are signing.
> >
> > Infra would be responsible for retrieving the code from subversion and
> > building and signing the artifacts using code signing keys that they managed
> > securely.
> >
> > How they manage their keys belongs under infra's domain, but we need to
> > provide an actionable process that they could adopt otherwise.
> >
> > Does what I describe above sound ok? Any suggestions, comments or changes to
> > the above-described process?
> >
>
> Sounds great and fantastic Job. Thank you Scott for dealing that out.
>
> Basically what I read from above is:
>
> - we open a Jira issue with a link to a logging wiki page what needs
> to be done (instructions how to build and probably some notes how to
> sign), the svn repository tag and a reference to the vote.
>
> - we also let them know the hashes of the artifacts we voted on to
> confirm we speak of the same
>
> - infra builds the code, signs it and uploads it to a location which
> is to be named
>
> - Once uploaded, Chainsaw users get a nice suprise :-)
>
> So, the last thing we need to do is to create instructions how to
> build? Lets do it! I really thought it would be more difficult.
>
> Cheers
> Christian
>
> > Thanks
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Scott Deboy <sc...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > I actually used to track this from the downloads and JNLP was used quite
> >> > extensively, haven't checked in a while, but I bet if we deployed the
> >> > latest
> >> > developer snapshot that would be the most frequently used path. We
> >> > pinged
> >> > infra a while back on this but didn't get back a good response (Paul had
> >> > to
> >> > sign the jars himself, and somehow JNLP was served correctly from where
> >> > it
> >> > is now).
> >> >
> >> > I'll ping #infra on freenode, but I really don't want to drop JNLP
> >> > support.
> >>
> >> OK understood. If infra is fine with that, I am too and we can publish
> >> the jnlp via the CMS.
> >> Just the dmg/zip file - shouldn't we put these on the mirroring system?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Scott
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Ivan Habunek <iv...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I'll take care of log4php next week. On holidays this week.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> Ivan
> >> >>
> >> >> On 22 June 2012 17:05, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Ralph Goers <rg...@apache.org>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> So where does this leave us in moving the site over?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I think we could simply commit the chainsaw binary into the cms
> >> >> > folders.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > But actually I believe infra will eat us if they ever find out we
> >> >> > distribute binaries from the CMS folder. Therefore I would say we
> >> >> > make
> >> >> > up a regular download page and reference to the dmg and the zip only
> >> >> > (dropping the jnlp) and use the mirroring system.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Scott, its your domain- what do you say to that?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Cheers
> >> >> > Christian
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Ralph
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Jun 21, 2012, at 12:51 AM, Scott Deboy <sc...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I believe we bypass the mirror system because the mirror system
> >> >> >> doesn't
> >> >> >> support the jnlp protocol (handling the mime type)..
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Scott
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Scott Deboy
> >> >> >> <sc...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> An icon is usually added to the user's start menu and/or desktop,
> >> >> >>> which
> >> >> >>> launches javaws and uses the jnlp protocol, so they don't need to
> >> >> >>> go
> >> >> >>> back to
> >> >> >>> the link to get the benefit of autoupdates.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Christian Grobmeier
> >> >> >>> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Scott Deboy
> >> >> >>>> <sc...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>> > The benefit of webstart is updates are automatically downloaded
> >> >> >>>> > and
> >> >> >>>> > installed. The link actually tries to check jars each time you
> >> >> >>>> > start
> >> >> >>>> > the
> >> >> >>>> > app and will update automatically if there are new ones.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> yes understood.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Does the user (i am a webstart noob) always need to click on our
> >> >> >>>> webpage to start the app?
> >> >> >>>> And, do we actually bypass the mirror system here or am I wrong
> >> >> >>>> with
> >> >> >>>> my assumption? Not sure if that is really relevant because I don't
> >> >> >>>> know about the user base
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Cheers
> >> >> >>>> Christian
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> > Scott
> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >>>> > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Christian Grobmeier
> >> >> >>>> > <gr...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >>>> > wrote:
> >> >> >>>> >>
> >> >> >>>> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Scott Deboy
> >> >> >>>> >> <sc...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >>>> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>>> >> > I think the gotcha there had something to do with making sure
> >> >> >>>> >> > the
> >> >> >>>> >> > jnlp
> >> >> >>>> >> > file mapping was correctly supported. It has been about eight
> >> >> >>>> >> > years,
> >> >> >>>> >> > but
> >> >> >>>> >> > that is my recollection.
> >> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >> >>>> >> > That and the stupid maven template support would not allow us
> >> >> >>>> >> > to
> >> >> >>>> >> > use
> >> >> >>>> >> > an
> >> >> >>>> >> > image as the link (a 'launch' webstart graphical button as
> >> >> >>>> >> > the
> >> >> >>>> >> > link)
> >> >> >>>> >>
> >> >> >>>> >>
> >> >> >>>> >> Is there something speaking against downloading an exe/dmg/zip
> >> >> >>>> >> via
> >> >> >>>> >> the
> >> >> >>>> >> usual download system?
> >> >> >>>> >> Or is webstart the killer feature for chainsaw? :-)
> >> >> >>>> >>
> >> >> >>>> >> Cheers
> >> >> >>>> >>
> >> >> >>>> >>
> >> >> >>>> >>
> >> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >> >>>> >> > Scott
> >> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >> >>>> >> > On Jun 20, 2012, at 2:46 AM, Christian Grobmeier
> >> >> >>>> >> > <gr...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >>>> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >> >>>> >> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 7:07 AM, Ralph Goers
> >> >> >>>> >> >> <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>> >> >>> I believe all the hard work on the logging site is
> >> >> >>>> >> >>> completed
> >> >> >>>> >> >>> however
> >> >> >>>> >> >>> some of the sub projects are yet to be published. I would
> >> >> >>>> >> >>> like to
> >> >> >>>> >> >>> have
> >> >> >>>> >> >>> infra convert loggingtest.apache.org to logging.apache.org
> >> >> >>>> >> >>> but
> >> >> >>>> >> >>> I
> >> >> >>>> >> >>> don't want
> >> >> >>>> >> >>> to get 404s on those sub projects.
> >> >> >>>> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>> >> >>> I looked at chainsaw and the download page will certainly
> >> >> >>>> >> >>> break if
> >> >> >>>> >> >>> I
> >> >> >>>> >> >>> were to just copy the content. I'm not sure about the
> >> >> >>>> >> >>> others.
> >> >> >>>> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>> >> >>> Any ideas?
> >> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >> >>>> >> >> Just added log4cxx to loggingtest.a.o. Its using the
> >> >> >>>> >> >> download
> >> >> >>>> >> >> script
> >> >> >>>> >> >> which generates a list of mirrors so no problem here. In
> >> >> >>>> >> >> addition I
> >> >> >>>> >> >> completed the branding requirements for log4cxx so we can
> >> >> >>>> >> >> leave
> >> >> >>>> >> >> that
> >> >> >>>> >> >> untouched for a while now.
> >> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >> >>>> >> >> I am not sure on the chainsaw one. It seems to bypass the
> >> >> >>>> >> >> mirroring
> >> >> >>>> >> >> system which is kind a bad. Instead we should change the
> >> >> >>>> >> >> site
> >> >> >>>> >> >> to
> >> >> >>>> >> >> use
> >> >> >>>> >> >> the download script imho. Maybe Scott can comment here.
> >> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >> >>>> >> >> That being said, the chainsaw site needs an appropriate
> >> >> >>>> >> >> footer.
> >> >> >>>> >> >> Basically the maven.vm template could be used in chainsaw
> >> >> >>>> >> >> too.
> >> >> >>>> >> >> So
> >> >> >>>> >> >> we
> >> >> >>>> >> >> have 2 tasks here, update to branding and use the mirror
> >> >> >>>> >> >> system.
> >> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >> >>>> >> >> cheers
> >> >> >>>> >> >> Christian
> >> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >> >>>> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>> >> >>> Ralph
> >> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >> >>>> >> >> --
> >> >> >>>> >> >> http://www.grobmeier.de
> >> >> >>>> >> >> https://www.timeandbill.de
> >> >> >>>> >>
> >> >> >>>> >>
> >> >> >>>> >>
> >> >> >>>> >> --
> >> >> >>>> >> http://www.grobmeier.de
> >> >> >>>> >> https://www.timeandbill.de
> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> --
> >> >> >>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
> >> >> >>>> https://www.timeandbill.de
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > http://www.grobmeier.de
> >> >> > https://www.timeandbill.de
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> http://www.grobmeier.de
> >> https://www.timeandbill.de
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.grobmeier.de
> https://www.timeandbill.de
>
Re: Logging Site
Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
Yeah - I refreshed my browser and they appeared. How odd.
Ralph
On Jul 7, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> Hu? I see them?
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/loggingtest/content/chainsaw/
>
> And I see them online:
> http://loggingtest.apache.org/chainsaw/2.x/
>
> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> I don't see chainsaw, log4php or log4net in
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/loggingtest/content/
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>> On Jul 7, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The pages you were adding were disappearing because the root directories
>> (log4cxx, chainsaw, etc) were not exposed in extpaths.txt. I have updated
>> that file but once again it appears that the content for log4php and
>> chainsaw are gone. If you commit them again they should stay put now.
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually it worked out already. Just republished the site and nothing
>> bad happened.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> Oh dear. Thank you. I have only read the comment as you were
>>
>> committing that change.
>>
>> Well... will try to commit that again.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>>
>> On Jul 7, 2012, at 4:49 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>>
>> i just committed the log4cxx pages (once again - for some reason the
>>
>> CMS is deleting it for me from time to time!), the chainsaw pages and
>>
>> the log4php pages.
>>
>>
>> For chainsaw I just took the content of the old site directory. Then I
>>
>> moved the binaries from log4j/webstart to chainsaw/webstart. Now the
>>
>> webstart files reside in the Chainsaw folder. Afterwards I committed,
>>
>> and everything is up. BUT if you try to download these binaries
>>
>> through the website they are not found. Anybody got an idea why?
>>
>>
>> I need to do some other work now, so I am glad bout everybody who can test
>> it.
>>
>>
>> That being said, I am +0 with moving on now and replace the websites.
>>
>> +0 only because the chainsaw downloads bug me. Maybe Scott has an idea
>>
>> because he already dealt with things like that.
>>
>>
>> Here is the repos in question:
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/loggingtest/content/chainsaw/
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> OK, but I'm consistently seeing users on the Logback list mentioning how
>> they are switching from Log4j. Presumably, if they see that there is an
>> upgrade available here they might give it a try.
>>
>>
>> That said, I guess I might as well go ahead with the release process and
>> publish it to loggingtest.
>>
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>>
>> On Jul 5, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Ivan Habunek wrote:
>>
>>
>> I also haven't done my bit for log4php yet. Not much free time. Should
>>
>> have it done this weekend.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ivan
>>
>>
>> On 5 July 2012 16:57, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 2012-07-05, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>
>>
>> Any update on this? Can we replace logging.apache.org with what is at
>>
>> loggingtest.apache.org?
>>
>>
>> Haven't found time to make the final adjustments for log4net, but TBH
>>
>> I'll be more likely to find the time if there is a pressing need
>>
>> (complaining users) - so no reason to wait for me/log4net.
>>
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>
>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>
>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.grobmeier.de
> https://www.timeandbill.de
Re: Logging Site
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
Hu? I see them?
https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/loggingtest/content/chainsaw/
And I see them online:
http://loggingtest.apache.org/chainsaw/2.x/
On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> I don't see chainsaw, log4php or log4net in
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/loggingtest/content/
>
> Ralph
>
> On Jul 7, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>
> wrote:
>
> The pages you were adding were disappearing because the root directories
> (log4cxx, chainsaw, etc) were not exposed in extpaths.txt. I have updated
> that file but once again it appears that the content for log4php and
> chainsaw are gone. If you commit them again they should stay put now.
>
>
>
> Actually it worked out already. Just republished the site and nothing
> bad happened.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Oh dear. Thank you. I have only read the comment as you were
>
> committing that change.
>
> Well... will try to commit that again.
>
>
>
> Ralph
>
>
> On Jul 7, 2012, at 4:49 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>
>
> Hey all,
>
>
> i just committed the log4cxx pages (once again - for some reason the
>
> CMS is deleting it for me from time to time!), the chainsaw pages and
>
> the log4php pages.
>
>
> For chainsaw I just took the content of the old site directory. Then I
>
> moved the binaries from log4j/webstart to chainsaw/webstart. Now the
>
> webstart files reside in the Chainsaw folder. Afterwards I committed,
>
> and everything is up. BUT if you try to download these binaries
>
> through the website they are not found. Anybody got an idea why?
>
>
> I need to do some other work now, so I am glad bout everybody who can test
> it.
>
>
> That being said, I am +0 with moving on now and replace the websites.
>
> +0 only because the chainsaw downloads bug me. Maybe Scott has an idea
>
> because he already dealt with things like that.
>
>
> Here is the repos in question:
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/loggingtest/content/chainsaw/
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>
> wrote:
>
> OK, but I'm consistently seeing users on the Logback list mentioning how
> they are switching from Log4j. Presumably, if they see that there is an
> upgrade available here they might give it a try.
>
>
> That said, I guess I might as well go ahead with the release process and
> publish it to loggingtest.
>
>
> Ralph
>
>
> On Jul 5, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Ivan Habunek wrote:
>
>
> I also haven't done my bit for log4php yet. Not much free time. Should
>
> have it done this weekend.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Ivan
>
>
> On 5 July 2012 16:57, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 2012-07-05, Ralph Goers wrote:
>
>
> Any update on this? Can we replace logging.apache.org with what is at
>
> loggingtest.apache.org?
>
>
> Haven't found time to make the final adjustments for log4net, but TBH
>
> I'll be more likely to find the time if there is a pressing need
>
> (complaining users) - so no reason to wait for me/log4net.
>
>
> Stefan
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> http://www.grobmeier.de
>
> https://www.timeandbill.de
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> http://www.grobmeier.de
>
> https://www.timeandbill.de
>
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.grobmeier.de
> https://www.timeandbill.de
>
>
--
http://www.grobmeier.de
https://www.timeandbill.de
Re: Logging Site
Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
That's strange. I do see the content on the web site.
Ralph
On Jul 7, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
> I don't see chainsaw, log4php or log4net in https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/loggingtest/content/
>
> Ralph
>
> On Jul 7, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>> The pages you were adding were disappearing because the root directories (log4cxx, chainsaw, etc) were not exposed in extpaths.txt. I have updated that file but once again it appears that the content for log4php and chainsaw are gone. If you commit them again they should stay put now.
>>>
>>
>> Actually it worked out already. Just republished the site and nothing
>> bad happened.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>>
>>> Oh dear. Thank you. I have only read the comment as you were
>>> committing that change.
>>> Well... will try to commit that again.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ralph
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 7, 2012, at 4:49 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>
>>>>> i just committed the log4cxx pages (once again - for some reason the
>>>>> CMS is deleting it for me from time to time!), the chainsaw pages and
>>>>> the log4php pages.
>>>>>
>>>>> For chainsaw I just took the content of the old site directory. Then I
>>>>> moved the binaries from log4j/webstart to chainsaw/webstart. Now the
>>>>> webstart files reside in the Chainsaw folder. Afterwards I committed,
>>>>> and everything is up. BUT if you try to download these binaries
>>>>> through the website they are not found. Anybody got an idea why?
>>>>>
>>>>> I need to do some other work now, so I am glad bout everybody who can test it.
>>>>>
>>>>> That being said, I am +0 with moving on now and replace the websites.
>>>>> +0 only because the chainsaw downloads bug me. Maybe Scott has an idea
>>>>> because he already dealt with things like that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the repos in question:
>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/loggingtest/content/chainsaw/
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>>>> OK, but I'm consistently seeing users on the Logback list mentioning how they are switching from Log4j. Presumably, if they see that there is an upgrade available here they might give it a try.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That said, I guess I might as well go ahead with the release process and publish it to loggingtest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 5, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Ivan Habunek wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also haven't done my bit for log4php yet. Not much free time. Should
>>>>>>> have it done this weekend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Ivan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5 July 2012 16:57, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2012-07-05, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any update on this? Can we replace logging.apache.org with what is at
>>>>>>>>> loggingtest.apache.org?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Haven't found time to make the final adjustments for log4net, but TBH
>>>>>>>> I'll be more likely to find the time if there is a pressing need
>>>>>>>> (complaining users) - so no reason to wait for me/log4net.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>>>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>
Re: Logging Site
Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
I don't see chainsaw, log4php or log4net in https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/loggingtest/content/
Ralph
On Jul 7, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>> The pages you were adding were disappearing because the root directories (log4cxx, chainsaw, etc) were not exposed in extpaths.txt. I have updated that file but once again it appears that the content for log4php and chainsaw are gone. If you commit them again they should stay put now.
>>
>
> Actually it worked out already. Just republished the site and nothing
> bad happened.
>
> Cheers
>
>>
>> Oh dear. Thank you. I have only read the comment as you were
>> committing that change.
>> Well... will try to commit that again.
>>
>>
>>> Ralph
>>>
>>> On Jul 7, 2012, at 4:49 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> i just committed the log4cxx pages (once again - for some reason the
>>>> CMS is deleting it for me from time to time!), the chainsaw pages and
>>>> the log4php pages.
>>>>
>>>> For chainsaw I just took the content of the old site directory. Then I
>>>> moved the binaries from log4j/webstart to chainsaw/webstart. Now the
>>>> webstart files reside in the Chainsaw folder. Afterwards I committed,
>>>> and everything is up. BUT if you try to download these binaries
>>>> through the website they are not found. Anybody got an idea why?
>>>>
>>>> I need to do some other work now, so I am glad bout everybody who can test it.
>>>>
>>>> That being said, I am +0 with moving on now and replace the websites.
>>>> +0 only because the chainsaw downloads bug me. Maybe Scott has an idea
>>>> because he already dealt with things like that.
>>>>
>>>> Here is the repos in question:
>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/loggingtest/content/chainsaw/
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>>> OK, but I'm consistently seeing users on the Logback list mentioning how they are switching from Log4j. Presumably, if they see that there is an upgrade available here they might give it a try.
>>>>>
>>>>> That said, I guess I might as well go ahead with the release process and publish it to loggingtest.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 5, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Ivan Habunek wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I also haven't done my bit for log4php yet. Not much free time. Should
>>>>>> have it done this weekend.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Ivan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5 July 2012 16:57, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2012-07-05, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any update on this? Can we replace logging.apache.org with what is at
>>>>>>>> loggingtest.apache.org?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Haven't found time to make the final adjustments for log4net, but TBH
>>>>>>> I'll be more likely to find the time if there is a pressing need
>>>>>>> (complaining users) - so no reason to wait for me/log4net.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.grobmeier.de
> https://www.timeandbill.de
Re: Logging Site
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> The pages you were adding were disappearing because the root directories (log4cxx, chainsaw, etc) were not exposed in extpaths.txt. I have updated that file but once again it appears that the content for log4php and chainsaw are gone. If you commit them again they should stay put now.
>
Actually it worked out already. Just republished the site and nothing
bad happened.
Cheers
>
> Oh dear. Thank you. I have only read the comment as you were
> committing that change.
> Well... will try to commit that again.
>
>
>> Ralph
>>
>> On Jul 7, 2012, at 4:49 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> i just committed the log4cxx pages (once again - for some reason the
>>> CMS is deleting it for me from time to time!), the chainsaw pages and
>>> the log4php pages.
>>>
>>> For chainsaw I just took the content of the old site directory. Then I
>>> moved the binaries from log4j/webstart to chainsaw/webstart. Now the
>>> webstart files reside in the Chainsaw folder. Afterwards I committed,
>>> and everything is up. BUT if you try to download these binaries
>>> through the website they are not found. Anybody got an idea why?
>>>
>>> I need to do some other work now, so I am glad bout everybody who can test it.
>>>
>>> That being said, I am +0 with moving on now and replace the websites.
>>> +0 only because the chainsaw downloads bug me. Maybe Scott has an idea
>>> because he already dealt with things like that.
>>>
>>> Here is the repos in question:
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/loggingtest/content/chainsaw/
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>> OK, but I'm consistently seeing users on the Logback list mentioning how they are switching from Log4j. Presumably, if they see that there is an upgrade available here they might give it a try.
>>>>
>>>> That said, I guess I might as well go ahead with the release process and publish it to loggingtest.
>>>>
>>>> Ralph
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 5, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Ivan Habunek wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I also haven't done my bit for log4php yet. Not much free time. Should
>>>>> have it done this weekend.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Ivan
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5 July 2012 16:57, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2012-07-05, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any update on this? Can we replace logging.apache.org with what is at
>>>>>>> loggingtest.apache.org?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Haven't found time to make the final adjustments for log4net, but TBH
>>>>>> I'll be more likely to find the time if there is a pressing need
>>>>>> (complaining users) - so no reason to wait for me/log4net.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>>
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.grobmeier.de
> https://www.timeandbill.de
--
http://www.grobmeier.de
https://www.timeandbill.de
Re: Logging Site
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> The pages you were adding were disappearing because the root directories (log4cxx, chainsaw, etc) were not exposed in extpaths.txt. I have updated that file but once again it appears that the content for log4php and chainsaw are gone. If you commit them again they should stay put now.
Oh dear. Thank you. I have only read the comment as you were
committing that change.
Well... will try to commit that again.
> Ralph
>
> On Jul 7, 2012, at 4:49 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> i just committed the log4cxx pages (once again - for some reason the
>> CMS is deleting it for me from time to time!), the chainsaw pages and
>> the log4php pages.
>>
>> For chainsaw I just took the content of the old site directory. Then I
>> moved the binaries from log4j/webstart to chainsaw/webstart. Now the
>> webstart files reside in the Chainsaw folder. Afterwards I committed,
>> and everything is up. BUT if you try to download these binaries
>> through the website they are not found. Anybody got an idea why?
>>
>> I need to do some other work now, so I am glad bout everybody who can test it.
>>
>> That being said, I am +0 with moving on now and replace the websites.
>> +0 only because the chainsaw downloads bug me. Maybe Scott has an idea
>> because he already dealt with things like that.
>>
>> Here is the repos in question:
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/loggingtest/content/chainsaw/
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>> OK, but I'm consistently seeing users on the Logback list mentioning how they are switching from Log4j. Presumably, if they see that there is an upgrade available here they might give it a try.
>>>
>>> That said, I guess I might as well go ahead with the release process and publish it to loggingtest.
>>>
>>> Ralph
>>>
>>> On Jul 5, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Ivan Habunek wrote:
>>>
>>>> I also haven't done my bit for log4php yet. Not much free time. Should
>>>> have it done this weekend.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Ivan
>>>>
>>>> On 5 July 2012 16:57, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 2012-07-05, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Any update on this? Can we replace logging.apache.org with what is at
>>>>>> loggingtest.apache.org?
>>>>>
>>>>> Haven't found time to make the final adjustments for log4net, but TBH
>>>>> I'll be more likely to find the time if there is a pressing need
>>>>> (complaining users) - so no reason to wait for me/log4net.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stefan
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>
--
http://www.grobmeier.de
https://www.timeandbill.de
Re: Logging Site
Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
The pages you were adding were disappearing because the root directories (log4cxx, chainsaw, etc) were not exposed in extpaths.txt. I have updated that file but once again it appears that the content for log4php and chainsaw are gone. If you commit them again they should stay put now.
Ralph
On Jul 7, 2012, at 4:49 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> i just committed the log4cxx pages (once again - for some reason the
> CMS is deleting it for me from time to time!), the chainsaw pages and
> the log4php pages.
>
> For chainsaw I just took the content of the old site directory. Then I
> moved the binaries from log4j/webstart to chainsaw/webstart. Now the
> webstart files reside in the Chainsaw folder. Afterwards I committed,
> and everything is up. BUT if you try to download these binaries
> through the website they are not found. Anybody got an idea why?
>
> I need to do some other work now, so I am glad bout everybody who can test it.
>
> That being said, I am +0 with moving on now and replace the websites.
> +0 only because the chainsaw downloads bug me. Maybe Scott has an idea
> because he already dealt with things like that.
>
> Here is the repos in question:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/loggingtest/content/chainsaw/
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> OK, but I'm consistently seeing users on the Logback list mentioning how they are switching from Log4j. Presumably, if they see that there is an upgrade available here they might give it a try.
>>
>> That said, I guess I might as well go ahead with the release process and publish it to loggingtest.
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>> On Jul 5, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Ivan Habunek wrote:
>>
>>> I also haven't done my bit for log4php yet. Not much free time. Should
>>> have it done this weekend.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ivan
>>>
>>> On 5 July 2012 16:57, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> On 2012-07-05, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Any update on this? Can we replace logging.apache.org with what is at
>>>>> loggingtest.apache.org?
>>>>
>>>> Haven't found time to make the final adjustments for log4net, but TBH
>>>> I'll be more likely to find the time if there is a pressing need
>>>> (complaining users) - so no reason to wait for me/log4net.
>>>>
>>>> Stefan
>>
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.grobmeier.de
> https://www.timeandbill.de
Re: Logging Site
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
OK I fixed the dmg/zip download links.
the webstart file can also be downloaded.
Unfortunately we need to alter the jnlp file as it refers to the old domain.
Scott, could you help here?
Anyway, as we have the downloads i am +1 to move loggingtest.* to
logging.apache.org now
Cheers
Christian
On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> i just committed the log4cxx pages (once again - for some reason the
> CMS is deleting it for me from time to time!), the chainsaw pages and
> the log4php pages.
>
> For chainsaw I just took the content of the old site directory. Then I
> moved the binaries from log4j/webstart to chainsaw/webstart. Now the
> webstart files reside in the Chainsaw folder. Afterwards I committed,
> and everything is up. BUT if you try to download these binaries
> through the website they are not found. Anybody got an idea why?
>
> I need to do some other work now, so I am glad bout everybody who can test it.
>
> That being said, I am +0 with moving on now and replace the websites.
> +0 only because the chainsaw downloads bug me. Maybe Scott has an idea
> because he already dealt with things like that.
>
> Here is the repos in question:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/loggingtest/content/chainsaw/
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> OK, but I'm consistently seeing users on the Logback list mentioning how they are switching from Log4j. Presumably, if they see that there is an upgrade available here they might give it a try.
>>
>> That said, I guess I might as well go ahead with the release process and publish it to loggingtest.
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>> On Jul 5, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Ivan Habunek wrote:
>>
>>> I also haven't done my bit for log4php yet. Not much free time. Should
>>> have it done this weekend.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ivan
>>>
>>> On 5 July 2012 16:57, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> On 2012-07-05, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Any update on this? Can we replace logging.apache.org with what is at
>>>>> loggingtest.apache.org?
>>>>
>>>> Haven't found time to make the final adjustments for log4net, but TBH
>>>> I'll be more likely to find the time if there is a pressing need
>>>> (complaining users) - so no reason to wait for me/log4net.
>>>>
>>>> Stefan
>>
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.grobmeier.de
> https://www.timeandbill.de
--
http://www.grobmeier.de
https://www.timeandbill.de
Re: Logging Site
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
Hey all,
i just committed the log4cxx pages (once again - for some reason the
CMS is deleting it for me from time to time!), the chainsaw pages and
the log4php pages.
For chainsaw I just took the content of the old site directory. Then I
moved the binaries from log4j/webstart to chainsaw/webstart. Now the
webstart files reside in the Chainsaw folder. Afterwards I committed,
and everything is up. BUT if you try to download these binaries
through the website they are not found. Anybody got an idea why?
I need to do some other work now, so I am glad bout everybody who can test it.
That being said, I am +0 with moving on now and replace the websites.
+0 only because the chainsaw downloads bug me. Maybe Scott has an idea
because he already dealt with things like that.
Here is the repos in question:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/loggingtest/content/chainsaw/
Cheers
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> OK, but I'm consistently seeing users on the Logback list mentioning how they are switching from Log4j. Presumably, if they see that there is an upgrade available here they might give it a try.
>
> That said, I guess I might as well go ahead with the release process and publish it to loggingtest.
>
> Ralph
>
> On Jul 5, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Ivan Habunek wrote:
>
>> I also haven't done my bit for log4php yet. Not much free time. Should
>> have it done this weekend.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ivan
>>
>> On 5 July 2012 16:57, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> On 2012-07-05, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>>
>>>> Any update on this? Can we replace logging.apache.org with what is at
>>>> loggingtest.apache.org?
>>>
>>> Haven't found time to make the final adjustments for log4net, but TBH
>>> I'll be more likely to find the time if there is a pressing need
>>> (complaining users) - so no reason to wait for me/log4net.
>>>
>>> Stefan
>
--
http://www.grobmeier.de
https://www.timeandbill.de
Re: Logging Site
Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
OK, but I'm consistently seeing users on the Logback list mentioning how they are switching from Log4j. Presumably, if they see that there is an upgrade available here they might give it a try.
That said, I guess I might as well go ahead with the release process and publish it to loggingtest.
Ralph
On Jul 5, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Ivan Habunek wrote:
> I also haven't done my bit for log4php yet. Not much free time. Should
> have it done this weekend.
>
> Regards,
> Ivan
>
> On 5 July 2012 16:57, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On 2012-07-05, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>
>>> Any update on this? Can we replace logging.apache.org with what is at
>>> loggingtest.apache.org?
>>
>> Haven't found time to make the final adjustments for log4net, but TBH
>> I'll be more likely to find the time if there is a pressing need
>> (complaining users) - so no reason to wait for me/log4net.
>>
>> Stefan
Re: Logging Site
Posted by Ivan Habunek <iv...@gmail.com>.
I also haven't done my bit for log4php yet. Not much free time. Should
have it done this weekend.
Regards,
Ivan
On 5 July 2012 16:57, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 2012-07-05, Ralph Goers wrote:
>
>> Any update on this? Can we replace logging.apache.org with what is at
>> loggingtest.apache.org?
>
> Haven't found time to make the final adjustments for log4net, but TBH
> I'll be more likely to find the time if there is a pressing need
> (complaining users) - so no reason to wait for me/log4net.
>
> Stefan
Re: Logging Site
Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On 2012-07-07, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On 2012-07-05, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>> Any update on this? Can we replace logging.apache.org with what is at
>>> loggingtest.apache.org?
>> Haven't found time to make the final adjustments for log4net, but TBH
>> I'll be more likely to find the time if there is a pressing need
>> (complaining users) - so no reason to wait for me/log4net.
First of all, let me repeat: "don't wait for me". 8-)
> I see that:
> http://loggingtest.apache.org/log4net/1.x/
> So isn't this the latest version of the site?
It is and it works well enough to go (not sure whether the download page
works, we will see). The problem is that several exterior links will
point to http://logging.apache.org/log4net/ without 1.x - as do several
pages inside the log4net area - and those links won't work properly
anymore.
Some mod_rewrite magic inside .htaccess could fix that, but my head is
somewhere else right now.
Stefan
Re: Logging Site
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 2012-07-05, Ralph Goers wrote:
>
>> Any update on this? Can we replace logging.apache.org with what is at
>> loggingtest.apache.org?
>
> Haven't found time to make the final adjustments for log4net, but TBH
> I'll be more likely to find the time if there is a pressing need
> (complaining users) - so no reason to wait for me/log4net.
I see that:
http://loggingtest.apache.org/log4net/1.x/
So isn't this the latest version of the site?
>
> Stefan
--
http://www.grobmeier.de
https://www.timeandbill.de
Re: Logging Site
Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On 2012-07-05, Ralph Goers wrote:
> Any update on this? Can we replace logging.apache.org with what is at
> loggingtest.apache.org?
Haven't found time to make the final adjustments for log4net, but TBH
I'll be more likely to find the time if there is a pressing need
(complaining users) - so no reason to wait for me/log4net.
Stefan