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Posted to users@cloudstack.apache.org by Deepti Dohare <de...@citrix.com> on 2012/12/20 07:19:35 UTC
[DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts to a
domain
Hi,
Currently in CloudStack architecture, domains can have dedicated zones but not pods, clusters or hosts.
We are proposing this functionality in "Dedicated Resources" where a domain or a sub-domain can have dedicated pods, clusters or hosts.
Why we need this feature:
Dedicating a zone might be very expensive offering for an end users, whereas dedicating a pod, cluster or a host
may be more economical. This feature will allow Root-Admin to dedicate resources to a specific domain that needs
private infrastructure for additional security or performance guarantees.
In this feature
- Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a particular domain or sub-domain.
- Any users in that domain can access pod/cluster/host dedicated to their domain.
- No users outside that domain, can access the dedicated pod, cluster or hosts (eg. deploy instance on that pod/cluster/host).
- If there is no available resources in the dedicated pod/cluster/host, then CloudStack should fail the operation
for a user in that domain.
I have filed a jira request: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-681, to track this feature. Please let me know any comments and suggestions.
Thanks
Deepti
RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
to a domain
Posted by Ram Ganesh <Ra...@citrix.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Nalley [mailto:david@gnsa.us]
> Sent: 20 December 2012 20:49
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters,
> Hosts to a domain
>
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Deepti Dohare
> <de...@citrix.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Currently in CloudStack architecture, domains can have dedicated
> zones but not pods, clusters or hosts.
> >
> > We are proposing this functionality in "Dedicated Resources" where a
> domain or a sub-domain can have dedicated pods, clusters or hosts.
> >
> > Why we need this feature:
> > Dedicating a zone might be very expensive offering for an end users,
> whereas dedicating a pod, cluster or a host
> > may be more economical. This feature will allow Root-Admin to
> dedicate resources to a specific domain that needs
> > private infrastructure for additional security or performance
> guarantees.
> >
> > In this feature
> > - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> particular domain or sub-domain.
> > - Any users in that domain can access pod/cluster/host dedicated to
> their domain.
> > - No users outside that domain, can access the dedicated pod, cluster
> or hosts (eg. deploy instance on that pod/cluster/host).
> > - If there is no available resources in the dedicated
> pod/cluster/host, then CloudStack should fail the operation
> > for a user in that domain.
> >
> > I have filed a jira request:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-681, to track this
> feature. Please let me know any comments and suggestions.
> >
>
>
> So I personally think hosts are too low of a level to do something
> like this. clusters makes sense, but not individual hosts.
We do have users using host tags to dedicate a host though I am not sure about the use case. But assume if I have 2 high end hosts then a department can dedicate one host say to QA team and another one to development team thereby achieving isolation at the physical level.
>
> Also - I think 90% of the benefit of this feature could be realized by
> changing the way we handle allocation on tagged resources. (e.g.
> require the tag to be present in the service offering to be deployed
> on a tagged resource)
>
> --David
Re: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts to
a domain
Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Deepti Dohare <de...@citrix.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Currently in CloudStack architecture, domains can have dedicated zones but not pods, clusters or hosts.
>
> We are proposing this functionality in "Dedicated Resources" where a domain or a sub-domain can have dedicated pods, clusters or hosts.
>
> Why we need this feature:
> Dedicating a zone might be very expensive offering for an end users, whereas dedicating a pod, cluster or a host
> may be more economical. This feature will allow Root-Admin to dedicate resources to a specific domain that needs
> private infrastructure for additional security or performance guarantees.
>
> In this feature
> - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a particular domain or sub-domain.
> - Any users in that domain can access pod/cluster/host dedicated to their domain.
> - No users outside that domain, can access the dedicated pod, cluster or hosts (eg. deploy instance on that pod/cluster/host).
> - If there is no available resources in the dedicated pod/cluster/host, then CloudStack should fail the operation
> for a user in that domain.
>
> I have filed a jira request: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-681, to track this feature. Please let me know any comments and suggestions.
>
So I personally think hosts are too low of a level to do something
like this. clusters makes sense, but not individual hosts.
Also - I think 90% of the benefit of this feature could be realized by
changing the way we handle allocation on tagged resources. (e.g.
require the tag to be present in the service offering to be deployed
on a tagged resource)
--David
RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
to a domain
Posted by Anthony Xu <Xu...@citrix.com>.
> My thinking is that, when dedicating a cluster to a domain, dedication
> of primary storage will be taken care of.
how do you handle PS if dedicating a host to domain?
If CS supports some kinds of EBS later, EBS can be a PS and shared by multiple cluster, how do you handle EBS PS ?
Can admin dedicate multiple resources( for example, cluster) to a domain?
If a pod is dedicated to a domain, can another pod be dedicated to a sub-domain of this domain?
If yes, does that mean this sub-domain own two pods?
Anthony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deepti Dohare
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 11:18 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; Anthony Xu
> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters,
> Hosts to a domain
>
> Hi Anthony,
>
> My thinking is that, when dedicating a cluster to a domain, dedication
> of primary storage will be taken care of.
>
> Current proposal is to have dedicated resources at domain level.
> In case of accounts, we have to handle number of use cases which might
> be confusing.
>
> Regards
> Deepti
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Xu [mailto:Xuefei.Xu@citrix.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 11:59 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org;
> cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters,
> Hosts to a domain
>
> > In this feature
> > - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> > particular domain or sub-domain.
>
> How about primary storage? Can PS be dedicated to a domain?
>
> Can an account have dedicated resource?
>
> > - If there is no available resources in the dedicated
> > pod/cluster/host, then CloudStack should fail the operation
> > for a user in that domain.
>
> If this happens, how does admin handle this?
> Can admin extend resource for this domain?
>
>
> Anthony
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Deepti Dohare [mailto:deepti.dohare@citrix.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:20 PM
> > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
> > users@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters,
> Hosts
> > to a domain
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Currently in CloudStack architecture, domains can have dedicated
> zones
> > but not pods, clusters or hosts.
> >
> > We are proposing this functionality in "Dedicated Resources" where a
> > domain or a sub-domain can have dedicated pods, clusters or hosts.
> >
> > Why we need this feature:
> > Dedicating a zone might be very expensive offering for an end users,
> > whereas dedicating a pod, cluster or a host may be more economical.
> > This feature will allow Root-Admin to dedicate resources to a
> specific
> > domain that needs private infrastructure for additional security or
> > performance guarantees.
> >
> > In this feature
> > - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> > particular domain or sub-domain.
> > - Any users in that domain can access pod/cluster/host dedicated to
> > their domain.
> > - No users outside that domain, can access the dedicated pod, cluster
> > or hosts (eg. deploy instance on that pod/cluster/host).
> > - If there is no available resources in the dedicated
> > pod/cluster/host, then CloudStack should fail the operation
> > for a user in that domain.
> >
> > I have filed a jira request:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-681, to track this
> > feature. Please let me know any comments and suggestions.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Deepti
RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
to a domain
Posted by Anthony Xu <Xu...@citrix.com>.
> My thinking is that, when dedicating a cluster to a domain, dedication
> of primary storage will be taken care of.
how do you handle PS if dedicating a host to domain?
If CS supports some kinds of EBS later, EBS can be a PS and shared by multiple cluster, how do you handle EBS PS ?
Can admin dedicate multiple resources( for example, cluster) to a domain?
If a pod is dedicated to a domain, can another pod be dedicated to a sub-domain of this domain?
If yes, does that mean this sub-domain own two pods?
Anthony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deepti Dohare
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 11:18 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; Anthony Xu
> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters,
> Hosts to a domain
>
> Hi Anthony,
>
> My thinking is that, when dedicating a cluster to a domain, dedication
> of primary storage will be taken care of.
>
> Current proposal is to have dedicated resources at domain level.
> In case of accounts, we have to handle number of use cases which might
> be confusing.
>
> Regards
> Deepti
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Xu [mailto:Xuefei.Xu@citrix.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 11:59 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org;
> cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters,
> Hosts to a domain
>
> > In this feature
> > - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> > particular domain or sub-domain.
>
> How about primary storage? Can PS be dedicated to a domain?
>
> Can an account have dedicated resource?
>
> > - If there is no available resources in the dedicated
> > pod/cluster/host, then CloudStack should fail the operation
> > for a user in that domain.
>
> If this happens, how does admin handle this?
> Can admin extend resource for this domain?
>
>
> Anthony
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Deepti Dohare [mailto:deepti.dohare@citrix.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:20 PM
> > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
> > users@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters,
> Hosts
> > to a domain
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Currently in CloudStack architecture, domains can have dedicated
> zones
> > but not pods, clusters or hosts.
> >
> > We are proposing this functionality in "Dedicated Resources" where a
> > domain or a sub-domain can have dedicated pods, clusters or hosts.
> >
> > Why we need this feature:
> > Dedicating a zone might be very expensive offering for an end users,
> > whereas dedicating a pod, cluster or a host may be more economical.
> > This feature will allow Root-Admin to dedicate resources to a
> specific
> > domain that needs private infrastructure for additional security or
> > performance guarantees.
> >
> > In this feature
> > - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> > particular domain or sub-domain.
> > - Any users in that domain can access pod/cluster/host dedicated to
> > their domain.
> > - No users outside that domain, can access the dedicated pod, cluster
> > or hosts (eg. deploy instance on that pod/cluster/host).
> > - If there is no available resources in the dedicated
> > pod/cluster/host, then CloudStack should fail the operation
> > for a user in that domain.
> >
> > I have filed a jira request:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-681, to track this
> > feature. Please let me know any comments and suggestions.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Deepti
RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
to a domain
Posted by Deepti Dohare <de...@citrix.com>.
Hi Anthony,
My thinking is that, when dedicating a cluster to a domain, dedication of primary storage will be taken care of.
Current proposal is to have dedicated resources at domain level.
In case of accounts, we have to handle number of use cases which might be confusing.
Regards
Deepti
-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Xu [mailto:Xuefei.Xu@citrix.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 11:59 AM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org;
cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts to a domain
> In this feature
> - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> particular domain or sub-domain.
How about primary storage? Can PS be dedicated to a domain?
Can an account have dedicated resource?
> - If there is no available resources in the dedicated
> pod/cluster/host, then CloudStack should fail the operation
> for a user in that domain.
If this happens, how does admin handle this?
Can admin extend resource for this domain?
Anthony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deepti Dohare [mailto:deepti.dohare@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:20 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
> users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
> to a domain
>
> Hi,
>
> Currently in CloudStack architecture, domains can have dedicated zones
> but not pods, clusters or hosts.
>
> We are proposing this functionality in "Dedicated Resources" where a
> domain or a sub-domain can have dedicated pods, clusters or hosts.
>
> Why we need this feature:
> Dedicating a zone might be very expensive offering for an end users,
> whereas dedicating a pod, cluster or a host may be more economical.
> This feature will allow Root-Admin to dedicate resources to a specific
> domain that needs private infrastructure for additional security or
> performance guarantees.
>
> In this feature
> - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> particular domain or sub-domain.
> - Any users in that domain can access pod/cluster/host dedicated to
> their domain.
> - No users outside that domain, can access the dedicated pod, cluster
> or hosts (eg. deploy instance on that pod/cluster/host).
> - If there is no available resources in the dedicated
> pod/cluster/host, then CloudStack should fail the operation
> for a user in that domain.
>
> I have filed a jira request:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-681, to track this
> feature. Please let me know any comments and suggestions.
>
> Thanks
> Deepti
Re: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts to
a domain
Posted by Saurav Lahiri <sa...@sungard.com>.
Would dedicating a pod/cluster to a domain also not require dedicating the
primary storage. This is because it would appear that if
performance/security is the primary reason for dedicating resources, then
that would also be true for primary storage. Also Would it be not be better
to specify cluster as the last level of granularity for resource that can
be dedicated to a domain rather than a host? So cases where a single host
needs to be dedicated to a domain, it would equate to a cluster with a
single host.
Thanks
Saurav
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Manikanta Kattamuri <
manikanta.kattamuri@sungard.com> wrote:
> This seems to be sort of a private cloud feature in a shared DC.
>
> > In this feature
> > - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> > particular domain or sub-domain.
> Will the domain/sub-domain will also have access to shared resources?
>
> Then what happens to the domain specific resources like iso's, templates
> etc... where will they be placed.
>
>
> --Mani
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Xu [mailto:Xuefei.Xu@citrix.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 11:59 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org;
> cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
> to a domain
>
> > In this feature
> > - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> > particular domain or sub-domain.
>
> How about primary storage? Can PS be dedicated to a domain?
>
> Can an account have dedicated resource?
>
> > - If there is no available resources in the dedicated
> > pod/cluster/host, then CloudStack should fail the operation
> > for a user in that domain.
>
> If this happens, how does admin handle this?
> Can admin extend resource for this domain?
>
>
> Anthony
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Deepti Dohare [mailto:deepti.dohare@citrix.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:20 PM
> > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
> > users@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
> > to a domain
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Currently in CloudStack architecture, domains can have dedicated zones
> > but not pods, clusters or hosts.
> >
> > We are proposing this functionality in "Dedicated Resources" where a
> > domain or a sub-domain can have dedicated pods, clusters or hosts.
> >
> > Why we need this feature:
> > Dedicating a zone might be very expensive offering for an end users,
> > whereas dedicating a pod, cluster or a host may be more economical.
> > This feature will allow Root-Admin to dedicate resources to a specific
> > domain that needs private infrastructure for additional security or
> > performance guarantees.
> >
> > In this feature
> > - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> > particular domain or sub-domain.
> > - Any users in that domain can access pod/cluster/host dedicated to
> > their domain.
> > - No users outside that domain, can access the dedicated pod, cluster
> > or hosts (eg. deploy instance on that pod/cluster/host).
> > - If there is no available resources in the dedicated
> > pod/cluster/host, then CloudStack should fail the operation
> > for a user in that domain.
> >
> > I have filed a jira request:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-681, to track this
> > feature. Please let me know any comments and suggestions.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Deepti
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts to
a domain
Posted by Saurav Lahiri <sa...@sungard.com>.
Would dedicating a pod/cluster to a domain also not require dedicating the
primary storage. This is because it would appear that if
performance/security is the primary reason for dedicating resources, then
that would also be true for primary storage. Also Would it be not be better
to specify cluster as the last level of granularity for resource that can
be dedicated to a domain rather than a host? So cases where a single host
needs to be dedicated to a domain, it would equate to a cluster with a
single host.
Thanks
Saurav
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Manikanta Kattamuri <
manikanta.kattamuri@sungard.com> wrote:
> This seems to be sort of a private cloud feature in a shared DC.
>
> > In this feature
> > - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> > particular domain or sub-domain.
> Will the domain/sub-domain will also have access to shared resources?
>
> Then what happens to the domain specific resources like iso's, templates
> etc... where will they be placed.
>
>
> --Mani
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Xu [mailto:Xuefei.Xu@citrix.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 11:59 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org;
> cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
> to a domain
>
> > In this feature
> > - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> > particular domain or sub-domain.
>
> How about primary storage? Can PS be dedicated to a domain?
>
> Can an account have dedicated resource?
>
> > - If there is no available resources in the dedicated
> > pod/cluster/host, then CloudStack should fail the operation
> > for a user in that domain.
>
> If this happens, how does admin handle this?
> Can admin extend resource for this domain?
>
>
> Anthony
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Deepti Dohare [mailto:deepti.dohare@citrix.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:20 PM
> > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
> > users@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
> > to a domain
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Currently in CloudStack architecture, domains can have dedicated zones
> > but not pods, clusters or hosts.
> >
> > We are proposing this functionality in "Dedicated Resources" where a
> > domain or a sub-domain can have dedicated pods, clusters or hosts.
> >
> > Why we need this feature:
> > Dedicating a zone might be very expensive offering for an end users,
> > whereas dedicating a pod, cluster or a host may be more economical.
> > This feature will allow Root-Admin to dedicate resources to a specific
> > domain that needs private infrastructure for additional security or
> > performance guarantees.
> >
> > In this feature
> > - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> > particular domain or sub-domain.
> > - Any users in that domain can access pod/cluster/host dedicated to
> > their domain.
> > - No users outside that domain, can access the dedicated pod, cluster
> > or hosts (eg. deploy instance on that pod/cluster/host).
> > - If there is no available resources in the dedicated
> > pod/cluster/host, then CloudStack should fail the operation
> > for a user in that domain.
> >
> > I have filed a jira request:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-681, to track this
> > feature. Please let me know any comments and suggestions.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Deepti
>
>
RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
to a domain
Posted by Deepti Dohare <de...@citrix.com>.
Hi Anthony,
My thinking is that, when dedicating a cluster to a domain, dedication of primary storage will be taken care of.
Current proposal is to have dedicated resources at domain level.
In case of accounts, we have to handle number of use cases which might be confusing.
Regards
Deepti
-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Xu [mailto:Xuefei.Xu@citrix.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 11:59 AM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org;
cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts to a domain
> In this feature
> - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> particular domain or sub-domain.
How about primary storage? Can PS be dedicated to a domain?
Can an account have dedicated resource?
> - If there is no available resources in the dedicated
> pod/cluster/host, then CloudStack should fail the operation
> for a user in that domain.
If this happens, how does admin handle this?
Can admin extend resource for this domain?
Anthony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deepti Dohare [mailto:deepti.dohare@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:20 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
> users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
> to a domain
>
> Hi,
>
> Currently in CloudStack architecture, domains can have dedicated zones
> but not pods, clusters or hosts.
>
> We are proposing this functionality in "Dedicated Resources" where a
> domain or a sub-domain can have dedicated pods, clusters or hosts.
>
> Why we need this feature:
> Dedicating a zone might be very expensive offering for an end users,
> whereas dedicating a pod, cluster or a host may be more economical.
> This feature will allow Root-Admin to dedicate resources to a specific
> domain that needs private infrastructure for additional security or
> performance guarantees.
>
> In this feature
> - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> particular domain or sub-domain.
> - Any users in that domain can access pod/cluster/host dedicated to
> their domain.
> - No users outside that domain, can access the dedicated pod, cluster
> or hosts (eg. deploy instance on that pod/cluster/host).
> - If there is no available resources in the dedicated
> pod/cluster/host, then CloudStack should fail the operation
> for a user in that domain.
>
> I have filed a jira request:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-681, to track this
> feature. Please let me know any comments and suggestions.
>
> Thanks
> Deepti
Re: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
to a domain
Posted by Chiradeep Vittal <Ch...@citrix.com>.
Given the move away from defining these access rights in code (see [1]), I
hope that these checks are going to be defined in the new ACL check layer.
[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/CloudStack+API+refac
toring
On 12/19/12 10:39 PM, "Manikanta Kattamuri"
<ma...@sungard.com> wrote:
>This seems to be sort of a private cloud feature in a shared DC.
>
>> In this feature
>> - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
>> particular domain or sub-domain.
>Will the domain/sub-domain will also have access to shared resources?
>
>Then what happens to the domain specific resources like iso's, templates
>etc... where will they be placed.
>
>
>--Mani
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Anthony Xu [mailto:Xuefei.Xu@citrix.com]
>Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 11:59 AM
>To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org;
>cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
>Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
>to a domain
>
>> In this feature
>> - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
>> particular domain or sub-domain.
>
>How about primary storage? Can PS be dedicated to a domain?
>
>Can an account have dedicated resource?
>
>> - If there is no available resources in the dedicated
>> pod/cluster/host, then CloudStack should fail the operation
>> for a user in that domain.
>
>If this happens, how does admin handle this?
>Can admin extend resource for this domain?
>
>
>Anthony
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Deepti Dohare [mailto:deepti.dohare@citrix.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:20 PM
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
>> users@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
>> to a domain
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Currently in CloudStack architecture, domains can have dedicated zones
>> but not pods, clusters or hosts.
>>
>> We are proposing this functionality in "Dedicated Resources" where a
>> domain or a sub-domain can have dedicated pods, clusters or hosts.
>>
>> Why we need this feature:
>> Dedicating a zone might be very expensive offering for an end users,
>> whereas dedicating a pod, cluster or a host may be more economical.
>> This feature will allow Root-Admin to dedicate resources to a specific
>> domain that needs private infrastructure for additional security or
>> performance guarantees.
>>
>> In this feature
>> - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
>> particular domain or sub-domain.
>> - Any users in that domain can access pod/cluster/host dedicated to
>> their domain.
>> - No users outside that domain, can access the dedicated pod, cluster
>> or hosts (eg. deploy instance on that pod/cluster/host).
>> - If there is no available resources in the dedicated
>> pod/cluster/host, then CloudStack should fail the operation
>> for a user in that domain.
>>
>> I have filed a jira request:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-681, to track this
>> feature. Please let me know any comments and suggestions.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Deepti
Re: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
to a domain
Posted by Chiradeep Vittal <Ch...@citrix.com>.
Given the move away from defining these access rights in code (see [1]), I
hope that these checks are going to be defined in the new ACL check layer.
[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/CloudStack+API+refac
toring
On 12/19/12 10:39 PM, "Manikanta Kattamuri"
<ma...@sungard.com> wrote:
>This seems to be sort of a private cloud feature in a shared DC.
>
>> In this feature
>> - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
>> particular domain or sub-domain.
>Will the domain/sub-domain will also have access to shared resources?
>
>Then what happens to the domain specific resources like iso's, templates
>etc... where will they be placed.
>
>
>--Mani
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Anthony Xu [mailto:Xuefei.Xu@citrix.com]
>Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 11:59 AM
>To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org;
>cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
>Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
>to a domain
>
>> In this feature
>> - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
>> particular domain or sub-domain.
>
>How about primary storage? Can PS be dedicated to a domain?
>
>Can an account have dedicated resource?
>
>> - If there is no available resources in the dedicated
>> pod/cluster/host, then CloudStack should fail the operation
>> for a user in that domain.
>
>If this happens, how does admin handle this?
>Can admin extend resource for this domain?
>
>
>Anthony
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Deepti Dohare [mailto:deepti.dohare@citrix.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:20 PM
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
>> users@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
>> to a domain
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Currently in CloudStack architecture, domains can have dedicated zones
>> but not pods, clusters or hosts.
>>
>> We are proposing this functionality in "Dedicated Resources" where a
>> domain or a sub-domain can have dedicated pods, clusters or hosts.
>>
>> Why we need this feature:
>> Dedicating a zone might be very expensive offering for an end users,
>> whereas dedicating a pod, cluster or a host may be more economical.
>> This feature will allow Root-Admin to dedicate resources to a specific
>> domain that needs private infrastructure for additional security or
>> performance guarantees.
>>
>> In this feature
>> - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
>> particular domain or sub-domain.
>> - Any users in that domain can access pod/cluster/host dedicated to
>> their domain.
>> - No users outside that domain, can access the dedicated pod, cluster
>> or hosts (eg. deploy instance on that pod/cluster/host).
>> - If there is no available resources in the dedicated
>> pod/cluster/host, then CloudStack should fail the operation
>> for a user in that domain.
>>
>> I have filed a jira request:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-681, to track this
>> feature. Please let me know any comments and suggestions.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Deepti
RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts to
a domain
Posted by Manikanta Kattamuri <ma...@sungard.com>.
This seems to be sort of a private cloud feature in a shared DC.
> In this feature
> - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> particular domain or sub-domain.
Will the domain/sub-domain will also have access to shared resources?
Then what happens to the domain specific resources like iso's, templates
etc... where will they be placed.
--Mani
-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Xu [mailto:Xuefei.Xu@citrix.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 11:59 AM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org;
cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
to a domain
> In this feature
> - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> particular domain or sub-domain.
How about primary storage? Can PS be dedicated to a domain?
Can an account have dedicated resource?
> - If there is no available resources in the dedicated
> pod/cluster/host, then CloudStack should fail the operation
> for a user in that domain.
If this happens, how does admin handle this?
Can admin extend resource for this domain?
Anthony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deepti Dohare [mailto:deepti.dohare@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:20 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
> users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
> to a domain
>
> Hi,
>
> Currently in CloudStack architecture, domains can have dedicated zones
> but not pods, clusters or hosts.
>
> We are proposing this functionality in "Dedicated Resources" where a
> domain or a sub-domain can have dedicated pods, clusters or hosts.
>
> Why we need this feature:
> Dedicating a zone might be very expensive offering for an end users,
> whereas dedicating a pod, cluster or a host may be more economical.
> This feature will allow Root-Admin to dedicate resources to a specific
> domain that needs private infrastructure for additional security or
> performance guarantees.
>
> In this feature
> - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> particular domain or sub-domain.
> - Any users in that domain can access pod/cluster/host dedicated to
> their domain.
> - No users outside that domain, can access the dedicated pod, cluster
> or hosts (eg. deploy instance on that pod/cluster/host).
> - If there is no available resources in the dedicated
> pod/cluster/host, then CloudStack should fail the operation
> for a user in that domain.
>
> I have filed a jira request:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-681, to track this
> feature. Please let me know any comments and suggestions.
>
> Thanks
> Deepti
RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts to
a domain
Posted by Manikanta Kattamuri <ma...@sungard.com>.
This seems to be sort of a private cloud feature in a shared DC.
> In this feature
> - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> particular domain or sub-domain.
Will the domain/sub-domain will also have access to shared resources?
Then what happens to the domain specific resources like iso's, templates
etc... where will they be placed.
--Mani
-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Xu [mailto:Xuefei.Xu@citrix.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 11:59 AM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org;
cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
to a domain
> In this feature
> - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> particular domain or sub-domain.
How about primary storage? Can PS be dedicated to a domain?
Can an account have dedicated resource?
> - If there is no available resources in the dedicated
> pod/cluster/host, then CloudStack should fail the operation
> for a user in that domain.
If this happens, how does admin handle this?
Can admin extend resource for this domain?
Anthony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deepti Dohare [mailto:deepti.dohare@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:20 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
> users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
> to a domain
>
> Hi,
>
> Currently in CloudStack architecture, domains can have dedicated zones
> but not pods, clusters or hosts.
>
> We are proposing this functionality in "Dedicated Resources" where a
> domain or a sub-domain can have dedicated pods, clusters or hosts.
>
> Why we need this feature:
> Dedicating a zone might be very expensive offering for an end users,
> whereas dedicating a pod, cluster or a host may be more economical.
> This feature will allow Root-Admin to dedicate resources to a specific
> domain that needs private infrastructure for additional security or
> performance guarantees.
>
> In this feature
> - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> particular domain or sub-domain.
> - Any users in that domain can access pod/cluster/host dedicated to
> their domain.
> - No users outside that domain, can access the dedicated pod, cluster
> or hosts (eg. deploy instance on that pod/cluster/host).
> - If there is no available resources in the dedicated
> pod/cluster/host, then CloudStack should fail the operation
> for a user in that domain.
>
> I have filed a jira request:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-681, to track this
> feature. Please let me know any comments and suggestions.
>
> Thanks
> Deepti
RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
to a domain
Posted by Anthony Xu <Xu...@citrix.com>.
> In this feature
> - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> particular domain or sub-domain.
How about primary storage? Can PS be dedicated to a domain?
Can an account have dedicated resource?
> - If there is no available resources in the dedicated pod/cluster/host,
> then CloudStack should fail the operation
> for a user in that domain.
If this happens, how does admin handle this?
Can admin extend resource for this domain?
Anthony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deepti Dohare [mailto:deepti.dohare@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:20 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
> users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
> to a domain
>
> Hi,
>
> Currently in CloudStack architecture, domains can have dedicated zones
> but not pods, clusters or hosts.
>
> We are proposing this functionality in "Dedicated Resources" where a
> domain or a sub-domain can have dedicated pods, clusters or hosts.
>
> Why we need this feature:
> Dedicating a zone might be very expensive offering for an end users,
> whereas dedicating a pod, cluster or a host
> may be more economical. This feature will allow Root-Admin to dedicate
> resources to a specific domain that needs
> private infrastructure for additional security or performance
> guarantees.
>
> In this feature
> - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> particular domain or sub-domain.
> - Any users in that domain can access pod/cluster/host dedicated to
> their domain.
> - No users outside that domain, can access the dedicated pod, cluster
> or hosts (eg. deploy instance on that pod/cluster/host).
> - If there is no available resources in the dedicated pod/cluster/host,
> then CloudStack should fail the operation
> for a user in that domain.
>
> I have filed a jira request:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-681, to track this
> feature. Please let me know any comments and suggestions.
>
> Thanks
> Deepti
RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
to a domain
Posted by Anthony Xu <Xu...@citrix.com>.
> In this feature
> - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> particular domain or sub-domain.
How about primary storage? Can PS be dedicated to a domain?
Can an account have dedicated resource?
> - If there is no available resources in the dedicated pod/cluster/host,
> then CloudStack should fail the operation
> for a user in that domain.
If this happens, how does admin handle this?
Can admin extend resource for this domain?
Anthony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deepti Dohare [mailto:deepti.dohare@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:20 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
> users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts
> to a domain
>
> Hi,
>
> Currently in CloudStack architecture, domains can have dedicated zones
> but not pods, clusters or hosts.
>
> We are proposing this functionality in "Dedicated Resources" where a
> domain or a sub-domain can have dedicated pods, clusters or hosts.
>
> Why we need this feature:
> Dedicating a zone might be very expensive offering for an end users,
> whereas dedicating a pod, cluster or a host
> may be more economical. This feature will allow Root-Admin to dedicate
> resources to a specific domain that needs
> private infrastructure for additional security or performance
> guarantees.
>
> In this feature
> - Root Admin should be able to dedicate a pod/cluster/host to a
> particular domain or sub-domain.
> - Any users in that domain can access pod/cluster/host dedicated to
> their domain.
> - No users outside that domain, can access the dedicated pod, cluster
> or hosts (eg. deploy instance on that pod/cluster/host).
> - If there is no available resources in the dedicated pod/cluster/host,
> then CloudStack should fail the operation
> for a user in that domain.
>
> I have filed a jira request:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-681, to track this
> feature. Please let me know any comments and suggestions.
>
> Thanks
> Deepti