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Posted to dev@lenya.apache.org by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org> on 2004/06/17 14:55:34 UTC
Code Freeze (was: VOTE [CVS->SVN] Cocoon Roadmap)
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
[...]
> BTW, it seems like the switch should be deferred:
>
>
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org&msgNo=34356
I see the following options:
1) wait until we can switch to SVN
-1 (unacceptable)
2) branch in CVS
-1
3) allow only check-ins for 1.2.1 with prior discussion
on lenya-dev
+1
WDYT?
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Re: Code Freeze (was: VOTE [CVS->SVN] Cocoon Roadmap)
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
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> 3) allow only check-ins for 1.2.1 with prior discussion
> on lenya-dev
Maybe we shouldn't require to discuss the check-ins.
This would slow down the development, and the release
1.2.1 has to be tested anyway.
I think that no new features should be committed, but
I'd see this as a recommendation, not as a rule.
Anything that breaks backwards compatibility to 1.2
should be considered as a bug.
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Re: Code Freeze
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
>Michael Wechner wrote:
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>>>not business as usual. checkins need to be discussed first.
>>>
>>>
>>well, I think bug fixes and light enhancements of existing features
>>don't need to be discussed.
>>
>>
>
>Even a simple bugfix can have a more serious bug as a side effect. That is a
>good reason to have more than two eyes looking at the code.
>
>
so why am I a committer? We are talking here about 1.2.1, right?
Michi
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Re: Code Freeze
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Michael Wechner wrote:
>
> Also, please note that some people on the incubator PMC think that
> Lenya is
> ready to be released and some don't, but the discussion is over there yet.
I meant NOT over ;-)
also the discussion getting out of incubator is not over yet, or at least
I hope so ...
Michi
>
>
> I think we can definitely release 1.2 as an incubation release, and
> maybe 1.2.1
> will already be an official release, or maybe 1.2.2, whatever ;-)
>
> But please let's move on ...
>
> Thanks
>
> Michi
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>
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> thorsten
>>
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Re: Code Freeze
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Scherler, Thorsten wrote:
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>
> In the meantime we could focus our energies to get out of the
> incubator and maybe release as an official apache project!
the way we get out of the incubator is by creating a more diverse community.
So, what kind of energy are we talking about?
If we continuously improve the project then more people will be
attracted, more
people will contribute, more people are likely to become committer.
A release would help in this process.
Also, please note that some people on the incubator PMC think that Lenya is
ready to be released and some don't, but the discussion is over there yet.
I think we can definitely release 1.2 as an incubation release, and
maybe 1.2.1
will already be an official release, or maybe 1.2.2, whatever ;-)
But please let's move on ...
Thanks
Michi
>
> WDYT?
>
> thorsten
>
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Re: Code Freeze
Posted by "Scherler, Thorsten" <th...@apache.org>.
Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
> Michael Wechner wrote:
>
>
>>>not business as usual. checkins need to be discussed first.
>>
>>well, I think bug fixes and light enhancements of existing features
>>don't need to be discussed.
>
>
> Even a simple bugfix can have a more serious bug as a side effect. That is a
> good reason to have more than two eyes looking at the code.
>
> Andreas
I guess that would cost to much work to discuss all bugfixes and
enhancements in the ml! If we end in discussing every small change on
the code base then -1 for releasing the freeze because it is not an end
of the code freeze after all. It is like now with the freeze!
Anyway, we had not an official release jet and want to change to SVN. So
IMO we should *maybe* wait with the release to after the change to SVN.
IMO that would make more sense.
In the meantime we could focus our energies to get out of the incubator
and maybe release as an official apache project!
WDYT?
thorsten
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Re: Code Freeze
Posted by Andreas Kuckartz <A....@ping.de>.
Michael Wechner wrote:
> > not business as usual. checkins need to be discussed first.
>
> well, I think bug fixes and light enhancements of existing features
> don't need to be discussed.
Even a simple bugfix can have a more serious bug as a side effect. That is a
good reason to have more than two eyes looking at the code.
Andreas
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Re: Code Freeze
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@juntadeandalucia.es>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Michael Wechner wrote:
>
>> Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
>>
>>> Michael Wechner wrote:
>>>
>>>> I guess you mean 1.2 would be the tagged version of Rolf and CVS HEAD
>>>> is 1.2.1, whereas development of 1.2.1 is business as usual, but no
>>>> 1.4 resp 1.3 features, e.g. Repository/Publication layer, correct?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> not business as usual. checkins need to be discussed first.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> well, I think bug fixes and light enhancements of existing features
>> don't need to be discussed.
>
>
> +1 (see my other mail)
>
> -- Andreas
>
+1
thorsten
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Re: Code Freeze
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Michael Wechner wrote:
> Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
>
>> Michael Wechner wrote:
>>
>>> I guess you mean 1.2 would be the tagged version of Rolf and CVS HEAD
>>> is 1.2.1, whereas development of 1.2.1 is business as usual, but no
>>> 1.4 resp 1.3 features, e.g. Repository/Publication layer, correct?
>>
>>
>>
>> not business as usual. checkins need to be discussed first.
>
>
>
> well, I think bug fixes and light enhancements of existing features
> don't need to be discussed.
+1 (see my other mail)
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Re: Code Freeze
Posted by Christian Egli <ch...@wyona.net>.
Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com> writes:
> Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
>
> > Michael Wechner wrote:
> >
> >> I guess you mean 1.2 would be the tagged version of Rolf and CVS HEAD
> >> is 1.2.1, whereas development of 1.2.1 is business as usual, but no
> >> 1.4 resp 1.3 features, e.g. Repository/Publication layer, correct?
> >
> > not business as usual. checkins need to be discussed first.
>
> well, I think bug fixes and light enhancements of existing features
> don't need to be discussed.
We can argue about bug fixes but the definition of 'light
enhancements' varies widely for different people, so IMHO they need to
be discussed.
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Re: Code Freeze
Posted by Dale Christ <de...@yahoo.com>.
All--
>
> well, I think bug fixes and light enhancements of existing features
> don't need to be discussed.
>
> WDYT?
>
Bug fixes don't, unless functionality is changed. To me a 'light enhancement'
is an enhancement, and it should be discussed.
My $0.02 worth (or pick your local currency) anyway...
--Dale
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Re: Code Freeze
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
> Michael Wechner wrote:
>
>> I guess you mean 1.2 would be the tagged version of Rolf and CVS HEAD
>> is 1.2.1, whereas development of 1.2.1 is business as usual, but no
>> 1.4 resp 1.3 features, e.g. Repository/Publication layer, correct?
>
>
> not business as usual. checkins need to be discussed first.
well, I think bug fixes and light enhancements of existing features
don't need to be discussed.
WDYT?
Michi
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Re: Code Freeze
Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Michael Wechner wrote:
> I guess you mean 1.2 would be the tagged version of Rolf and CVS HEAD
> is 1.2.1, whereas development of 1.2.1 is business as usual, but no
> 1.4 resp 1.3 features, e.g. Repository/Publication layer, correct?
not business as usual. checkins need to be discussed first.
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Re: Code Freeze (was: VOTE [CVS->SVN] Cocoon Roadmap)
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Michael Wechner wrote:
> Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>
>>
>> 3) allow only check-ins for 1.2.1 with prior discussion
>> on lenya-dev
>>
>> +1
>
>
>
> I guess you mean 1.2 would be the tagged version of Rolf and CVS HEAD
> is 1.2.1, whereas development of 1.2.1 is business as usual, but no
> 1.4 resp 1.3 features, e.g. Repository/Publication layer, correct?
Yes, this is how I understood it.
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Re: Code Freeze (was: VOTE [CVS->SVN] Cocoon Roadmap)
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>
> 3) allow only check-ins for 1.2.1 with prior discussion
> on lenya-dev
>
> +1
I guess you mean 1.2 would be the tagged version of Rolf and CVS HEAD
is 1.2.1, whereas development of 1.2.1 is business as usual, but no
1.4 resp 1.3 features, e.g. Repository/Publication layer, correct?
+1
Michi
>
> WDYT?
>
> -- Andreas
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