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Posted to user@manifoldcf.apache.org by Virgiliu R <go...@hotmail.com> on 2015/06/05 14:37:24 UTC

Job definition metadata with multiple path attribute names

Hello guys,

I have another Manifoldcf 2.0.2 question. Our process consists of indexing some documents from a Windows Share and sending them to Solr. I would like to extract some information from the documents and put it into specific Solr fields. For example, based on the id of the document I am currently extracting a specific folder name (using regular expressions on the metadata tab of the job defintition) and storing it into Solr; this it works fine. 

However, I also want to extract the file extension (using regex) and send it to Solr but I am not able to add more than one path attribute name on the Metadata tab of the job definition. I already have one that extracts a particular folder name from the file path and I would need a second one for the file extension.

How would I be able to achieve this?

Regards,
vigi
 		 	   		  

Re: Job definition metadata with multiple path attribute names

Posted by Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>.
Hi Vigi,

You can read up on the Metadata Adjuster Transformation Connector here:

https://manifoldcf.apache.org/release/release-2.1/en_US/end-user-documentation.html#metadataadjuster

I've also just added the following to the documentation for it:
>>>>>>
                <p>You can also use regular expressions in the substitution
string, for example: "${there|[0-9]*}", which will extract the first
sequence of sequential numbers it finds in the
                      value of the field "there", or
"${there|string(*.)|1}", which will include everything following "string"
in the field value.  (The third argument specifies the regular
                      expression group number, with an optional suffix of
"l" or "u" meaning upper-case or lower-case.)</p>
<<<<<<

Karl




On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Vigi,
>
> bq. I think the easiest would be to be able to define multiple mappings
> from source metadata fields to destination metadata fields, using regular
> expressions. Maybe there could be some other use cases besides regexes.
> What you have right now on version 2.0.2 is very good, except that it only
> allows one mapping.
>
> The Metadata Transformation Connector patch allows for multiple mappings,
> all different, to multiple destination fields.
>
> bq. In fact, the most generic use case would be to be able to apply custom
> transformations from the metadata fields provided by an input connector
> into other output connector metadata fields.
>
> That is exactly what the Metadata Transformation Connector does.
>
> Karl
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Virgiliu R <go...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Karl,
>>
>> I think the easiest would be to be able to define multiple mappings from
>> source metadata fields to destination metadata fields, using regular
>> expressions. Maybe there could be some other use cases besides regexes.
>> What you have right now on version 2.0.2 is very good, except that it only
>> allows one mapping. Probably this sort of transformations could be useful
>> for other type of repository connections as well.
>>
>> In fact, the most generic use case would be to be able to apply custom
>> transformations from the metadata fields provided by an input connector
>> into other output connector metadata fields.
>>
>> It would also be very useful to know somehow which are the available
>> metadata fields on the connectors. I think I have already asked you about
>> some details on the Tika transformation connector.
>>
>> Keep in touch,
>> vigi
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 06:07:02 -0400
>>
>> Subject: Re: Job definition metadata with multiple path attribute names
>> From: daddywri@gmail.com
>> To: user@manifoldcf.apache.org
>>
>> I attached a patch to CONNECTORS-1209.  I have not tested it yet.
>> Hopefully there will be time to do that later in the weekend.
>>
>> Karl
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Created CONNECTORS-1209 for this functionality.
>>
>> It's not hard to do, technically, but I need to define a language to
>> describe the regex and what you would want to extract.  For instance, right
>> now you specify a field value in terms of another field value like this:
>>
>> stringstringstring${otherfieldname}stringstring
>>
>> I'd be putting additional specification into ${otherfieldname}, something
>> like this:
>>
>> stringstringstring${otherfieldname:([1234567890]*)}stringstring
>>
>> ... which would extract the first number from the metadata value.  But
>> since ":" may well be part of a field name right now, I'd need to do
>> something other than that, and I'd want to be able to support more complex
>> regexps as well.
>>
>> Karl
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Vigi,
>>
>> I do understand your issue, but I'd propose a general solution of adding
>> new functionality to the Metadata Transformer to achieve your goal.  So the
>> setup would be this:
>>
>> - Use the JCIFS connector Metadata tab to just include the entire path in
>> the metadata
>> - Use the Metadata Transformer to generate two different pieces of
>> metadata, using a new regular expression modification feature that I would
>> write for you, if we can come up with a design for it
>>
>> You can write your own completely new transformation connector, but
>> that's no different than what I propose, and not as useful.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Karl
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Virgiliu R <go...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Karl,
>>
>> Maybe I misunderstood the applications for the metadata tab but in my
>> scenario I need to extract two types of information from a document's path.
>> Right now I am only able to extract one piece of information and put it in
>> Solr; it would have been very useful to be able to perform other
>> transformations to the paths but it's OK, I can probably write a
>> transformation connector of my own.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> vigi
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 09:02:59 -0400
>> Subject: Re: Job definition metadata with multiple path attribute names
>> From: daddywri@gmail.com
>> To: user@manifoldcf.apache.org
>>
>>
>> Hi Vigi,
>>
>> You get, for free, the file name of the document as metadata, from all
>> repository connectors, including the jcifs connector:
>>
>> >>>>>>
>>                   rd.setFileName(fileNameString);
>> <<<<<<
>>
>> The problem is that this is not something you can manipulate in MCF via
>> regular expression with the current bevy of supplied transformation
>> connectors, because (a) it isn't generic metadata but a fixed property of
>> the document, and (b) the Metadata Transformer connector doesn't allow you
>> to slice and dice metadata in any case, just compose it into bigger strings.
>>
>> So you're stuck with either writing a document transformation connector
>> of your own, which does what you want, or proposing additional
>> functionality for the Metadata Transformer.  If it can be done in a
>> backwards compatible way, this is something I would support.
>>
>> I'm not thrilled with the idea of extending the JCIFS connector to build
>> multiple independent attributes all from the path; the UI for this
>> connector is already quite complex, and the functionality for generically
>> manipulating metadata would be useful in general anyway.
>>
>> Karl
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Virgiliu R <go...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello guys,
>>
>> I have another Manifoldcf 2.0.2 question. Our process consists of
>> indexing some documents from a Windows Share and sending them to Solr. I
>> would like to extract some information from the documents and put it into
>> specific Solr fields. For example, based on the id of the document I am
>> currently extracting a specific folder name (using regular expressions on
>> the metadata tab of the job defintition) and storing it into Solr; this it
>> works fine.
>>
>> However, I also want to extract the file extension (using regex) and send
>> it to Solr but I am not able to add more than one path attribute name on
>> the Metadata tab of the job definition. I already have one that extracts a
>> particular folder name from the file path and I would need a second one for
>> the file extension.
>>
>> How would I be able to achieve this?
>>
>> Regards,
>> vigi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Job definition metadata with multiple path attribute names

Posted by Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>.
Hi Vigi,

bq. I think the easiest would be to be able to define multiple mappings
from source metadata fields to destination metadata fields, using regular
expressions. Maybe there could be some other use cases besides regexes.
What you have right now on version 2.0.2 is very good, except that it only
allows one mapping.

The Metadata Transformation Connector patch allows for multiple mappings,
all different, to multiple destination fields.

bq. In fact, the most generic use case would be to be able to apply custom
transformations from the metadata fields provided by an input connector
into other output connector metadata fields.

That is exactly what the Metadata Transformation Connector does.

Karl



On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Virgiliu R <go...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Karl,
>
> I think the easiest would be to be able to define multiple mappings from
> source metadata fields to destination metadata fields, using regular
> expressions. Maybe there could be some other use cases besides regexes.
> What you have right now on version 2.0.2 is very good, except that it only
> allows one mapping. Probably this sort of transformations could be useful
> for other type of repository connections as well.
>
> In fact, the most generic use case would be to be able to apply custom
> transformations from the metadata fields provided by an input connector
> into other output connector metadata fields.
>
> It would also be very useful to know somehow which are the available
> metadata fields on the connectors. I think I have already asked you about
> some details on the Tika transformation connector.
>
> Keep in touch,
> vigi
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 06:07:02 -0400
>
> Subject: Re: Job definition metadata with multiple path attribute names
> From: daddywri@gmail.com
> To: user@manifoldcf.apache.org
>
> I attached a patch to CONNECTORS-1209.  I have not tested it yet.
> Hopefully there will be time to do that later in the weekend.
>
> Karl
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Created CONNECTORS-1209 for this functionality.
>
> It's not hard to do, technically, but I need to define a language to
> describe the regex and what you would want to extract.  For instance, right
> now you specify a field value in terms of another field value like this:
>
> stringstringstring${otherfieldname}stringstring
>
> I'd be putting additional specification into ${otherfieldname}, something
> like this:
>
> stringstringstring${otherfieldname:([1234567890]*)}stringstring
>
> ... which would extract the first number from the metadata value.  But
> since ":" may well be part of a field name right now, I'd need to do
> something other than that, and I'd want to be able to support more complex
> regexps as well.
>
> Karl
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Vigi,
>
> I do understand your issue, but I'd propose a general solution of adding
> new functionality to the Metadata Transformer to achieve your goal.  So the
> setup would be this:
>
> - Use the JCIFS connector Metadata tab to just include the entire path in
> the metadata
> - Use the Metadata Transformer to generate two different pieces of
> metadata, using a new regular expression modification feature that I would
> write for you, if we can come up with a design for it
>
> You can write your own completely new transformation connector, but that's
> no different than what I propose, and not as useful.
>
> Thanks,
> Karl
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Virgiliu R <go...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Karl,
>
> Maybe I misunderstood the applications for the metadata tab but in my
> scenario I need to extract two types of information from a document's path.
> Right now I am only able to extract one piece of information and put it in
> Solr; it would have been very useful to be able to perform other
> transformations to the paths but it's OK, I can probably write a
> transformation connector of my own.
>
> Thanks,
> vigi
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 09:02:59 -0400
> Subject: Re: Job definition metadata with multiple path attribute names
> From: daddywri@gmail.com
> To: user@manifoldcf.apache.org
>
>
> Hi Vigi,
>
> You get, for free, the file name of the document as metadata, from all
> repository connectors, including the jcifs connector:
>
> >>>>>>
>                   rd.setFileName(fileNameString);
> <<<<<<
>
> The problem is that this is not something you can manipulate in MCF via
> regular expression with the current bevy of supplied transformation
> connectors, because (a) it isn't generic metadata but a fixed property of
> the document, and (b) the Metadata Transformer connector doesn't allow you
> to slice and dice metadata in any case, just compose it into bigger strings.
>
> So you're stuck with either writing a document transformation connector of
> your own, which does what you want, or proposing additional functionality
> for the Metadata Transformer.  If it can be done in a backwards compatible
> way, this is something I would support.
>
> I'm not thrilled with the idea of extending the JCIFS connector to build
> multiple independent attributes all from the path; the UI for this
> connector is already quite complex, and the functionality for generically
> manipulating metadata would be useful in general anyway.
>
> Karl
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Virgiliu R <go...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello guys,
>
> I have another Manifoldcf 2.0.2 question. Our process consists of indexing
> some documents from a Windows Share and sending them to Solr. I would like
> to extract some information from the documents and put it into specific
> Solr fields. For example, based on the id of the document I am currently
> extracting a specific folder name (using regular expressions on the
> metadata tab of the job defintition) and storing it into Solr; this it
> works fine.
>
> However, I also want to extract the file extension (using regex) and send
> it to Solr but I am not able to add more than one path attribute name on
> the Metadata tab of the job definition. I already have one that extracts a
> particular folder name from the file path and I would need a second one for
> the file extension.
>
> How would I be able to achieve this?
>
> Regards,
> vigi
>
>
>
>
>
>

RE: Job definition metadata with multiple path attribute names

Posted by Virgiliu R <go...@hotmail.com>.
Hello Karl,

I think the easiest would be to be able to define multiple mappings from source metadata fields to destination metadata fields, using regular expressions. Maybe there could be some other use cases besides regexes. What you have right now on version 2.0.2 is very good, except that it only allows one mapping. Probably this sort of transformations could be useful for other type of repository connections as well.

In fact, the most generic use case would be to be able to apply custom transformations from the metadata fields provided by an input connector into other output connector metadata fields.

It would also be very useful to know somehow which are the available metadata fields on the connectors. I think I have already asked you about some details on the Tika transformation connector.

Keep in touch,
vigi

Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 06:07:02 -0400
Subject: Re: Job definition metadata with multiple path attribute names
From: daddywri@gmail.com
To: user@manifoldcf.apache.org

I attached a patch to CONNECTORS-1209.  I have not tested it yet.  Hopefully there will be time to do that later in the weekend.

Karl


On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
Created CONNECTORS-1209 for this functionality.

It's not hard to do, technically, but I need to define a language to describe the regex and what you would want to extract.  For instance, right now you specify a field value in terms of another field value like this:

stringstringstring${otherfieldname}stringstring

I'd be putting additional specification into ${otherfieldname}, something like this:

stringstringstring${otherfieldname:([1234567890]*)}stringstring

... which would extract the first number from the metadata value.  But since ":" may well be part of a field name right now, I'd need to do something other than that, and I'd want to be able to support more complex regexps as well.

Karl


On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Vigi,
I do understand your issue, but I'd propose a general solution of adding new functionality to the Metadata Transformer to achieve your goal.  So the setup would be this:
- Use the JCIFS connector Metadata tab to just include the entire path in the metadata- Use the Metadata Transformer to generate two different pieces of metadata, using a new regular expression modification feature that I would write for you, if we can come up with a design for it
You can write your own completely new transformation connector, but that's no different than what I propose, and not as useful.
Thanks,Karl


On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Virgiliu R <go...@hotmail.com> wrote:



Dear Karl,

Maybe I misunderstood the applications for the metadata tab but in my scenario I need to extract two types of information from a document's path. Right now I am only able to extract one piece of information and put it in Solr; it would have been very useful to be able to perform other transformations to the paths but it's OK, I can probably write a transformation connector of my own.

Thanks,
vigi
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 09:02:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Job definition metadata with multiple path attribute names
From: daddywri@gmail.com
To: user@manifoldcf.apache.org

Hi Vigi,

You get, for free, the file name of the document as metadata, from all repository connectors, including the jcifs connector:

>>>>>>
                  rd.setFileName(fileNameString);
<<<<<<

The problem is that this is not something you can manipulate in MCF via regular expression with the current bevy of supplied transformation connectors, because (a) it isn't generic metadata but a fixed property of the document, and (b) the Metadata Transformer connector doesn't allow you to slice and dice metadata in any case, just compose it into bigger strings.

So you're stuck with either writing a document transformation connector of your own, which does what you want, or proposing additional functionality for the Metadata Transformer.  If it can be done in a backwards compatible way, this is something I would support.

I'm not thrilled with the idea of extending the JCIFS connector to build multiple independent attributes all from the path; the UI for this connector is already quite complex, and the functionality for generically manipulating metadata would be useful in general anyway.

Karl


On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Virgiliu R <go...@hotmail.com> wrote:



Hello guys,

I have another Manifoldcf 2.0.2 question. Our process consists of indexing some documents from a Windows Share and sending them to Solr. I would like to extract some information from the documents and put it into specific Solr fields. For example, based on the id of the document I am currently extracting a specific folder name (using regular expressions on the metadata tab of the job defintition) and storing it into Solr; this it works fine. 

However, I also want to extract the file extension (using regex) and send it to Solr but I am not able to add more than one path attribute name on the Metadata tab of the job definition. I already have one that extracts a particular folder name from the file path and I would need a second one for the file extension.

How would I be able to achieve this?

Regards,
vigi
 		 	   		  

 		 	   		  





 		 	   		  

Re: Job definition metadata with multiple path attribute names

Posted by Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>.
I attached a patch to CONNECTORS-1209.  I have not tested it yet.
Hopefully there will be time to do that later in the weekend.

Karl


On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Created CONNECTORS-1209 for this functionality.
>
> It's not hard to do, technically, but I need to define a language to
> describe the regex and what you would want to extract.  For instance, right
> now you specify a field value in terms of another field value like this:
>
> stringstringstring${otherfieldname}stringstring
>
> I'd be putting additional specification into ${otherfieldname}, something
> like this:
>
> stringstringstring${otherfieldname:([1234567890]*)}stringstring
>
> ... which would extract the first number from the metadata value.  But
> since ":" may well be part of a field name right now, I'd need to do
> something other than that, and I'd want to be able to support more complex
> regexps as well.
>
> Karl
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Vigi,
>>
>> I do understand your issue, but I'd propose a general solution of adding
>> new functionality to the Metadata Transformer to achieve your goal.  So the
>> setup would be this:
>>
>> - Use the JCIFS connector Metadata tab to just include the entire path in
>> the metadata
>> - Use the Metadata Transformer to generate two different pieces of
>> metadata, using a new regular expression modification feature that I would
>> write for you, if we can come up with a design for it
>>
>> You can write your own completely new transformation connector, but
>> that's no different than what I propose, and not as useful.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Karl
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Virgiliu R <go...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Karl,
>>>
>>> Maybe I misunderstood the applications for the metadata tab but in my
>>> scenario I need to extract two types of information from a document's path.
>>> Right now I am only able to extract one piece of information and put it in
>>> Solr; it would have been very useful to be able to perform other
>>> transformations to the paths but it's OK, I can probably write a
>>> transformation connector of my own.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> vigi
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 09:02:59 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: Job definition metadata with multiple path attribute names
>>> From: daddywri@gmail.com
>>> To: user@manifoldcf.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Vigi,
>>>
>>> You get, for free, the file name of the document as metadata, from all
>>> repository connectors, including the jcifs connector:
>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>>                   rd.setFileName(fileNameString);
>>> <<<<<<
>>>
>>> The problem is that this is not something you can manipulate in MCF via
>>> regular expression with the current bevy of supplied transformation
>>> connectors, because (a) it isn't generic metadata but a fixed property of
>>> the document, and (b) the Metadata Transformer connector doesn't allow you
>>> to slice and dice metadata in any case, just compose it into bigger strings.
>>>
>>> So you're stuck with either writing a document transformation connector
>>> of your own, which does what you want, or proposing additional
>>> functionality for the Metadata Transformer.  If it can be done in a
>>> backwards compatible way, this is something I would support.
>>>
>>> I'm not thrilled with the idea of extending the JCIFS connector to build
>>> multiple independent attributes all from the path; the UI for this
>>> connector is already quite complex, and the functionality for generically
>>> manipulating metadata would be useful in general anyway.
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Virgiliu R <go...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello guys,
>>>
>>> I have another Manifoldcf 2.0.2 question. Our process consists of
>>> indexing some documents from a Windows Share and sending them to Solr. I
>>> would like to extract some information from the documents and put it into
>>> specific Solr fields. For example, based on the id of the document I am
>>> currently extracting a specific folder name (using regular expressions on
>>> the metadata tab of the job defintition) and storing it into Solr; this it
>>> works fine.
>>>
>>> However, I also want to extract the file extension (using regex) and
>>> send it to Solr but I am not able to add more than one path attribute name
>>> on the Metadata tab of the job definition. I already have one that extracts
>>> a particular folder name from the file path and I would need a second one
>>> for the file extension.
>>>
>>> How would I be able to achieve this?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> vigi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: Job definition metadata with multiple path attribute names

Posted by Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>.
Created CONNECTORS-1209 for this functionality.

It's not hard to do, technically, but I need to define a language to
describe the regex and what you would want to extract.  For instance, right
now you specify a field value in terms of another field value like this:

stringstringstring${otherfieldname}stringstring

I'd be putting additional specification into ${otherfieldname}, something
like this:

stringstringstring${otherfieldname:([1234567890]*)}stringstring

... which would extract the first number from the metadata value.  But
since ":" may well be part of a field name right now, I'd need to do
something other than that, and I'd want to be able to support more complex
regexps as well.

Karl


On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Vigi,
>
> I do understand your issue, but I'd propose a general solution of adding
> new functionality to the Metadata Transformer to achieve your goal.  So the
> setup would be this:
>
> - Use the JCIFS connector Metadata tab to just include the entire path in
> the metadata
> - Use the Metadata Transformer to generate two different pieces of
> metadata, using a new regular expression modification feature that I would
> write for you, if we can come up with a design for it
>
> You can write your own completely new transformation connector, but that's
> no different than what I propose, and not as useful.
>
> Thanks,
> Karl
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Virgiliu R <go...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Karl,
>>
>> Maybe I misunderstood the applications for the metadata tab but in my
>> scenario I need to extract two types of information from a document's path.
>> Right now I am only able to extract one piece of information and put it in
>> Solr; it would have been very useful to be able to perform other
>> transformations to the paths but it's OK, I can probably write a
>> transformation connector of my own.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> vigi
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 09:02:59 -0400
>> Subject: Re: Job definition metadata with multiple path attribute names
>> From: daddywri@gmail.com
>> To: user@manifoldcf.apache.org
>>
>>
>> Hi Vigi,
>>
>> You get, for free, the file name of the document as metadata, from all
>> repository connectors, including the jcifs connector:
>>
>> >>>>>>
>>                   rd.setFileName(fileNameString);
>> <<<<<<
>>
>> The problem is that this is not something you can manipulate in MCF via
>> regular expression with the current bevy of supplied transformation
>> connectors, because (a) it isn't generic metadata but a fixed property of
>> the document, and (b) the Metadata Transformer connector doesn't allow you
>> to slice and dice metadata in any case, just compose it into bigger strings.
>>
>> So you're stuck with either writing a document transformation connector
>> of your own, which does what you want, or proposing additional
>> functionality for the Metadata Transformer.  If it can be done in a
>> backwards compatible way, this is something I would support.
>>
>> I'm not thrilled with the idea of extending the JCIFS connector to build
>> multiple independent attributes all from the path; the UI for this
>> connector is already quite complex, and the functionality for generically
>> manipulating metadata would be useful in general anyway.
>>
>> Karl
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Virgiliu R <go...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello guys,
>>
>> I have another Manifoldcf 2.0.2 question. Our process consists of
>> indexing some documents from a Windows Share and sending them to Solr. I
>> would like to extract some information from the documents and put it into
>> specific Solr fields. For example, based on the id of the document I am
>> currently extracting a specific folder name (using regular expressions on
>> the metadata tab of the job defintition) and storing it into Solr; this it
>> works fine.
>>
>> However, I also want to extract the file extension (using regex) and send
>> it to Solr but I am not able to add more than one path attribute name on
>> the Metadata tab of the job definition. I already have one that extracts a
>> particular folder name from the file path and I would need a second one for
>> the file extension.
>>
>> How would I be able to achieve this?
>>
>> Regards,
>> vigi
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Job definition metadata with multiple path attribute names

Posted by Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>.
Hi Vigi,

I do understand your issue, but I'd propose a general solution of adding
new functionality to the Metadata Transformer to achieve your goal.  So the
setup would be this:

- Use the JCIFS connector Metadata tab to just include the entire path in
the metadata
- Use the Metadata Transformer to generate two different pieces of
metadata, using a new regular expression modification feature that I would
write for you, if we can come up with a design for it

You can write your own completely new transformation connector, but that's
no different than what I propose, and not as useful.

Thanks,
Karl



On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Virgiliu R <go...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Karl,
>
> Maybe I misunderstood the applications for the metadata tab but in my
> scenario I need to extract two types of information from a document's path.
> Right now I am only able to extract one piece of information and put it in
> Solr; it would have been very useful to be able to perform other
> transformations to the paths but it's OK, I can probably write a
> transformation connector of my own.
>
> Thanks,
> vigi
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 09:02:59 -0400
> Subject: Re: Job definition metadata with multiple path attribute names
> From: daddywri@gmail.com
> To: user@manifoldcf.apache.org
>
>
> Hi Vigi,
>
> You get, for free, the file name of the document as metadata, from all
> repository connectors, including the jcifs connector:
>
> >>>>>>
>                   rd.setFileName(fileNameString);
> <<<<<<
>
> The problem is that this is not something you can manipulate in MCF via
> regular expression with the current bevy of supplied transformation
> connectors, because (a) it isn't generic metadata but a fixed property of
> the document, and (b) the Metadata Transformer connector doesn't allow you
> to slice and dice metadata in any case, just compose it into bigger strings.
>
> So you're stuck with either writing a document transformation connector of
> your own, which does what you want, or proposing additional functionality
> for the Metadata Transformer.  If it can be done in a backwards compatible
> way, this is something I would support.
>
> I'm not thrilled with the idea of extending the JCIFS connector to build
> multiple independent attributes all from the path; the UI for this
> connector is already quite complex, and the functionality for generically
> manipulating metadata would be useful in general anyway.
>
> Karl
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Virgiliu R <go...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello guys,
>
> I have another Manifoldcf 2.0.2 question. Our process consists of indexing
> some documents from a Windows Share and sending them to Solr. I would like
> to extract some information from the documents and put it into specific
> Solr fields. For example, based on the id of the document I am currently
> extracting a specific folder name (using regular expressions on the
> metadata tab of the job defintition) and storing it into Solr; this it
> works fine.
>
> However, I also want to extract the file extension (using regex) and send
> it to Solr but I am not able to add more than one path attribute name on
> the Metadata tab of the job definition. I already have one that extracts a
> particular folder name from the file path and I would need a second one for
> the file extension.
>
> How would I be able to achieve this?
>
> Regards,
> vigi
>
>
>

RE: Job definition metadata with multiple path attribute names

Posted by Virgiliu R <go...@hotmail.com>.
Dear Karl,

Maybe I misunderstood the applications for the metadata tab but in my scenario I need to extract two types of information from a document's path. Right now I am only able to extract one piece of information and put it in Solr; it would have been very useful to be able to perform other transformations to the paths but it's OK, I can probably write a transformation connector of my own.

Thanks,
vigi
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 09:02:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Job definition metadata with multiple path attribute names
From: daddywri@gmail.com
To: user@manifoldcf.apache.org

Hi Vigi,

You get, for free, the file name of the document as metadata, from all repository connectors, including the jcifs connector:

>>>>>>
                  rd.setFileName(fileNameString);
<<<<<<

The problem is that this is not something you can manipulate in MCF via regular expression with the current bevy of supplied transformation connectors, because (a) it isn't generic metadata but a fixed property of the document, and (b) the Metadata Transformer connector doesn't allow you to slice and dice metadata in any case, just compose it into bigger strings.

So you're stuck with either writing a document transformation connector of your own, which does what you want, or proposing additional functionality for the Metadata Transformer.  If it can be done in a backwards compatible way, this is something I would support.

I'm not thrilled with the idea of extending the JCIFS connector to build multiple independent attributes all from the path; the UI for this connector is already quite complex, and the functionality for generically manipulating metadata would be useful in general anyway.

Karl


On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Virgiliu R <go...@hotmail.com> wrote:



Hello guys,

I have another Manifoldcf 2.0.2 question. Our process consists of indexing some documents from a Windows Share and sending them to Solr. I would like to extract some information from the documents and put it into specific Solr fields. For example, based on the id of the document I am currently extracting a specific folder name (using regular expressions on the metadata tab of the job defintition) and storing it into Solr; this it works fine. 

However, I also want to extract the file extension (using regex) and send it to Solr but I am not able to add more than one path attribute name on the Metadata tab of the job definition. I already have one that extracts a particular folder name from the file path and I would need a second one for the file extension.

How would I be able to achieve this?

Regards,
vigi
 		 	   		  

 		 	   		  

Re: Job definition metadata with multiple path attribute names

Posted by Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>.
Hi Vigi,

You get, for free, the file name of the document as metadata, from all
repository connectors, including the jcifs connector:

>>>>>>
                  rd.setFileName(fileNameString);
<<<<<<

The problem is that this is not something you can manipulate in MCF via
regular expression with the current bevy of supplied transformation
connectors, because (a) it isn't generic metadata but a fixed property of
the document, and (b) the Metadata Transformer connector doesn't allow you
to slice and dice metadata in any case, just compose it into bigger strings.

So you're stuck with either writing a document transformation connector of
your own, which does what you want, or proposing additional functionality
for the Metadata Transformer.  If it can be done in a backwards compatible
way, this is something I would support.

I'm not thrilled with the idea of extending the JCIFS connector to build
multiple independent attributes all from the path; the UI for this
connector is already quite complex, and the functionality for generically
manipulating metadata would be useful in general anyway.

Karl


On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Virgiliu R <go...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hello guys,
>
> I have another Manifoldcf 2.0.2 question. Our process consists of indexing
> some documents from a Windows Share and sending them to Solr. I would like
> to extract some information from the documents and put it into specific
> Solr fields. For example, based on the id of the document I am currently
> extracting a specific folder name (using regular expressions on the
> metadata tab of the job defintition) and storing it into Solr; this it
> works fine.
>
> However, I also want to extract the file extension (using regex) and send
> it to Solr but I am not able to add more than one path attribute name on
> the Metadata tab of the job definition. I already have one that extracts a
> particular folder name from the file path and I would need a second one for
> the file extension.
>
> How would I be able to achieve this?
>
> Regards,
> vigi
>