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Posted to dev@ofbiz.apache.org by Rafiu Fakunle <ra...@knightshift.org> on 2006/07/03 18:00:46 UTC
Ofbiz end user docs
Hi,
Are the end user docs available somewhere in an open format (odf/xml)?
Thx,
Rafiu.
Re: Ofbiz end user docs
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
Ok may take a few days to understand.
David E. Jones sent the following on 7/5/2006 4:21 PM:
>
> We're migrating the content from the Undersun doc site to the
> docs.ofbiz.org Confluence server. There are some examples from the few
> hours I spent doing the PoC work on this that are basically all of the
> docs currently in the end-user documentation space.
>
> You might want to start by learning about Confluence and the wiki markup
> they use (though you can do much through their visual editor). We're
> basically taking the HTML from the existing site and converting it to
> that markup, plus reformatting a bit to clean it up (though that is a
> secondary priority).
>
> There is more information in the intro page in the end-user doc space.
> You should add comments to that page for any section you work on.
>
> -David
>
>
> BJ Freeman wrote:
>> great, Now before I mess things up, just what am I doing.
>> ;)
>>
>> David E. Jones sent the following on 7/5/2006 11:58 AM:
>>>
>>> BJ,
>>>
>>> I have added access permissions for your user on the Undersun doc
>>> site. Your username for the account I found in there is
>>> "bjfree@free-man.net" and you password is as it was before, or you
>>> can request a new one from the login page.
>>>
>>> For now please add new pages to the OFBiz wiki space and then
>>> existing editors can review them and move them to the end-user doc
>>> space.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>> David I have not volunteered due to my poor grammar. as you can tell
>>>> I can't write very well. Just a good programmers :)
>>>> However if it is just moving files and restructuring, I can give you
>>>> a couple hours a day.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David E. Jones sent the following on 7/4/2006 8:19 AM:
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafiu,
>>>>>
>>>>> We aren't selling the online docs any more because we no longer
>>>>> have a technical writer working on them full time. We also aren't
>>>>> handing out accounts for free because we'd like some help moving
>>>>> the docs to the new server and editing and cleaning them up, so for
>>>>> right now the only way to get access to those docs (if you don't
>>>>> already have a paid account) is to volunteer to help migrate the
>>>>> content.
>>>>>
>>>>> My hope is that this effort will be over ASAP and then the whole
>>>>> end-user documentation effort will be much more collaborative, and
>>>>> more freely available to OFBiz users and developers in general.
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafiu Fakunle wrote:
>>>>>> David E. Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which end user docs are you referring to?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The ones from OpenSourceStrategies are, I believe, in the Word
>>>>>>> doc format but with OpenOffice could certainly be converted to odf.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The stuff from Undersun is still sitting in the online doc server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can I get access to that? IIRC that's the most comprehensive docs
>>>>>> set available for OFBiz.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I asked around for volunteers to move it to the Jira server at
>>>>>>> docs.ofbiz.org, and while a few people expressed interest nothing
>>>>>>> has gone into that yet.
>>>>>> My guess is it's because of the tedium of manually moving the
>>>>>> content across. Data entry is pretty much incredibly boring; worse
>>>>>> still, wheel reinvention. If the content is already there, then we
>>>>>> need to figure out how to move it over automagically rather than
>>>>>> doing copy-paste.
>>>>>>> It's there for the taking though!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cool. How do I access it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thx,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafiu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rafiu Fakunle wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are the end user docs available somewhere in an open format
>>>>>>>> (odf/xml)?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thx,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rafiu.
>>>>>>
Re: Ofbiz end user docs
Posted by "David E. Jones" <jo...@undersunconsulting.com>.
We're migrating the content from the Undersun doc site to the docs.ofbiz.org Confluence server. There are some examples from the few hours I spent doing the PoC work on this that are basically all of the docs currently in the end-user documentation space.
You might want to start by learning about Confluence and the wiki markup they use (though you can do much through their visual editor). We're basically taking the HTML from the existing site and converting it to that markup, plus reformatting a bit to clean it up (though that is a secondary priority).
There is more information in the intro page in the end-user doc space. You should add comments to that page for any section you work on.
-David
BJ Freeman wrote:
> great, Now before I mess things up, just what am I doing.
> ;)
>
> David E. Jones sent the following on 7/5/2006 11:58 AM:
>>
>> BJ,
>>
>> I have added access permissions for your user on the Undersun doc
>> site. Your username for the account I found in there is
>> "bjfree@free-man.net" and you password is as it was before, or you can
>> request a new one from the login page.
>>
>> For now please add new pages to the OFBiz wiki space and then existing
>> editors can review them and move them to the end-user doc space.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> BJ Freeman wrote:
>>> David I have not volunteered due to my poor grammar. as you can tell
>>> I can't write very well. Just a good programmers :)
>>> However if it is just moving files and restructuring, I can give you
>>> a couple hours a day.
>>>
>>>
>>> David E. Jones sent the following on 7/4/2006 8:19 AM:
>>>>
>>>> Rafiu,
>>>>
>>>> We aren't selling the online docs any more because we no longer have
>>>> a technical writer working on them full time. We also aren't handing
>>>> out accounts for free because we'd like some help moving the docs to
>>>> the new server and editing and cleaning them up, so for right now
>>>> the only way to get access to those docs (if you don't already have
>>>> a paid account) is to volunteer to help migrate the content.
>>>>
>>>> My hope is that this effort will be over ASAP and then the whole
>>>> end-user documentation effort will be much more collaborative, and
>>>> more freely available to OFBiz users and developers in general.
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rafiu Fakunle wrote:
>>>>> David E. Jones wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which end user docs are you referring to?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ones from OpenSourceStrategies are, I believe, in the Word doc
>>>>>> format but with OpenOffice could certainly be converted to odf.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The stuff from Undersun is still sitting in the online doc server.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can I get access to that? IIRC that's the most comprehensive docs
>>>>> set available for OFBiz.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I asked around for volunteers to move it to the Jira server at
>>>>>> docs.ofbiz.org, and while a few people expressed interest nothing
>>>>>> has gone into that yet.
>>>>> My guess is it's because of the tedium of manually moving the
>>>>> content across. Data entry is pretty much incredibly boring; worse
>>>>> still, wheel reinvention. If the content is already there, then we
>>>>> need to figure out how to move it over automagically rather than
>>>>> doing copy-paste.
>>>>>> It's there for the taking though!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cool. How do I access it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thx,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafiu.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafiu Fakunle wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are the end user docs available somewhere in an open format
>>>>>>> (odf/xml)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thx,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rafiu.
>>>>>
Re: Ofbiz end user docs
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
great, Now before I mess things up, just what am I doing.
;)
David E. Jones sent the following on 7/5/2006 11:58 AM:
>
> BJ,
>
> I have added access permissions for your user on the Undersun doc site.
> Your username for the account I found in there is "bjfree@free-man.net"
> and you password is as it was before, or you can request a new one from
> the login page.
>
> For now please add new pages to the OFBiz wiki space and then existing
> editors can review them and move them to the end-user doc space.
>
> -David
>
>
> BJ Freeman wrote:
>> David I have not volunteered due to my poor grammar. as you can tell I
>> can't write very well. Just a good programmers :)
>> However if it is just moving files and restructuring, I can give you a
>> couple hours a day.
>>
>>
>> David E. Jones sent the following on 7/4/2006 8:19 AM:
>>>
>>> Rafiu,
>>>
>>> We aren't selling the online docs any more because we no longer have
>>> a technical writer working on them full time. We also aren't handing
>>> out accounts for free because we'd like some help moving the docs to
>>> the new server and editing and cleaning them up, so for right now the
>>> only way to get access to those docs (if you don't already have a
>>> paid account) is to volunteer to help migrate the content.
>>>
>>> My hope is that this effort will be over ASAP and then the whole
>>> end-user documentation effort will be much more collaborative, and
>>> more freely available to OFBiz users and developers in general.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> Rafiu Fakunle wrote:
>>>> David E. Jones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Which end user docs are you referring to?
>>>>>
>>>>> The ones from OpenSourceStrategies are, I believe, in the Word doc
>>>>> format but with OpenOffice could certainly be converted to odf.
>>>>>
>>>>> The stuff from Undersun is still sitting in the online doc server.
>>>>
>>>> Can I get access to that? IIRC that's the most comprehensive docs
>>>> set available for OFBiz.
>>>>
>>>>> I asked around for volunteers to move it to the Jira server at
>>>>> docs.ofbiz.org, and while a few people expressed interest nothing
>>>>> has gone into that yet.
>>>> My guess is it's because of the tedium of manually moving the
>>>> content across. Data entry is pretty much incredibly boring; worse
>>>> still, wheel reinvention. If the content is already there, then we
>>>> need to figure out how to move it over automagically rather than
>>>> doing copy-paste.
>>>>> It's there for the taking though!
>>>>
>>>> Cool. How do I access it?
>>>>
>>>> Thx,
>>>>
>>>> Rafiu.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafiu Fakunle wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are the end user docs available somewhere in an open format
>>>>>> (odf/xml)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thx,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafiu.
>>>>
Re: Ofbiz end user docs
Posted by "David E. Jones" <jo...@undersunconsulting.com>.
BJ,
I have added access permissions for your user on the Undersun doc site. Your username for the account I found in there is "bjfree@free-man.net" and you password is as it was before, or you can request a new one from the login page.
For now please add new pages to the OFBiz wiki space and then existing editors can review them and move them to the end-user doc space.
-David
BJ Freeman wrote:
> David I have not volunteered due to my poor grammar. as you can tell I
> can't write very well. Just a good programmers :)
> However if it is just moving files and restructuring, I can give you a
> couple hours a day.
>
>
> David E. Jones sent the following on 7/4/2006 8:19 AM:
>>
>> Rafiu,
>>
>> We aren't selling the online docs any more because we no longer have a
>> technical writer working on them full time. We also aren't handing out
>> accounts for free because we'd like some help moving the docs to the
>> new server and editing and cleaning them up, so for right now the only
>> way to get access to those docs (if you don't already have a paid
>> account) is to volunteer to help migrate the content.
>>
>> My hope is that this effort will be over ASAP and then the whole
>> end-user documentation effort will be much more collaborative, and
>> more freely available to OFBiz users and developers in general.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> Rafiu Fakunle wrote:
>>> David E. Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Which end user docs are you referring to?
>>>>
>>>> The ones from OpenSourceStrategies are, I believe, in the Word doc
>>>> format but with OpenOffice could certainly be converted to odf.
>>>>
>>>> The stuff from Undersun is still sitting in the online doc server.
>>>
>>> Can I get access to that? IIRC that's the most comprehensive docs set
>>> available for OFBiz.
>>>
>>>> I asked around for volunteers to move it to the Jira server at
>>>> docs.ofbiz.org, and while a few people expressed interest nothing
>>>> has gone into that yet.
>>> My guess is it's because of the tedium of manually moving the content
>>> across. Data entry is pretty much incredibly boring; worse still,
>>> wheel reinvention. If the content is already there, then we need to
>>> figure out how to move it over automagically rather than doing
>>> copy-paste.
>>>> It's there for the taking though!
>>>
>>> Cool. How do I access it?
>>>
>>> Thx,
>>>
>>> Rafiu.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rafiu Fakunle wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Are the end user docs available somewhere in an open format
>>>>> (odf/xml)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thx,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafiu.
>>>
Re: Ofbiz end user docs
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
David I have not volunteered due to my poor grammar. as you can tell I
can't write very well. Just a good programmers :)
However if it is just moving files and restructuring, I can give you a
couple hours a day.
David E. Jones sent the following on 7/4/2006 8:19 AM:
>
> Rafiu,
>
> We aren't selling the online docs any more because we no longer have a
> technical writer working on them full time. We also aren't handing out
> accounts for free because we'd like some help moving the docs to the new
> server and editing and cleaning them up, so for right now the only way
> to get access to those docs (if you don't already have a paid account)
> is to volunteer to help migrate the content.
>
> My hope is that this effort will be over ASAP and then the whole
> end-user documentation effort will be much more collaborative, and more
> freely available to OFBiz users and developers in general.
>
> -David
>
>
> Rafiu Fakunle wrote:
>> David E. Jones wrote:
>>>
>>> Which end user docs are you referring to?
>>>
>>> The ones from OpenSourceStrategies are, I believe, in the Word doc
>>> format but with OpenOffice could certainly be converted to odf.
>>>
>>> The stuff from Undersun is still sitting in the online doc server.
>>
>> Can I get access to that? IIRC that's the most comprehensive docs set
>> available for OFBiz.
>>
>>> I asked around for volunteers to move it to the Jira server at
>>> docs.ofbiz.org, and while a few people expressed interest nothing has
>>> gone into that yet.
>> My guess is it's because of the tedium of manually moving the content
>> across. Data entry is pretty much incredibly boring; worse still,
>> wheel reinvention. If the content is already there, then we need to
>> figure out how to move it over automagically rather than doing
>> copy-paste.
>>> It's there for the taking though!
>>
>> Cool. How do I access it?
>>
>> Thx,
>>
>> Rafiu.
>>
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> Rafiu Fakunle wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Are the end user docs available somewhere in an open format (odf/xml)?
>>>>
>>>> Thx,
>>>>
>>>> Rafiu.
>>
Re: Ofbiz end user docs
Posted by "David E. Jones" <jo...@undersunconsulting.com>.
Rafiu,
I have extended the time on your account on the Undersun doc site (though 2010, hopefully that should do it). Your username is "rafiu.fakunle@xinit.com" and you password is whatever you used before on that system. You can request a new password on the login page if needed.
On the docs.ofbiz.org site, please create new pages in the OFBiz wiki (OFBIZ) space and then one of the existing editors can review it and move it into the end-user docs space.
Thanks for your help!
-David
Rafiu Fakunle wrote:
> Hi
>
> David E. Jones wrote:
>>
>> docs (if you don't already have a paid account) is to volunteer to
>> help migrate the content.
>
>
> Right. I guess I can commit 2hrs a Sunday. At least I get to learn
> Confluence at the same time. Where's the recruitment office?
>
>
> R.
>
>>
>> My hope is that this effort will be over ASAP and then the whole
>> end-user documentation effort will be much more collaborative, and
>> more freely available to OFBiz users and developers in general.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> Rafiu Fakunle wrote:
>>> David E. Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Which end user docs are you referring to?
>>>>
>>>> The ones from OpenSourceStrategies are, I believe, in the Word doc
>>>> format but with OpenOffice could certainly be converted to odf.
>>>>
>>>> The stuff from Undersun is still sitting in the online doc server.
>>>
>>> Can I get access to that? IIRC that's the most comprehensive docs set
>>> available for OFBiz.
>>>
>>>> I asked around for volunteers to move it to the Jira server at
>>>> docs.ofbiz.org, and while a few people expressed interest nothing
>>>> has gone into that yet.
>>> My guess is it's because of the tedium of manually moving the content
>>> across. Data entry is pretty much incredibly boring; worse still,
>>> wheel reinvention. If the content is already there, then we need to
>>> figure out how to move it over automagically rather than doing
>>> copy-paste.
>>>> It's there for the taking though!
>>>
>>> Cool. How do I access it?
>>>
>>> Thx,
>>>
>>> Rafiu.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rafiu Fakunle wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Are the end user docs available somewhere in an open format
>>>>> (odf/xml)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thx,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafiu.
>>>
>
Re: Ofbiz end user docs
Posted by Rafiu Fakunle <ra...@knightshift.org>.
Hi
David E. Jones wrote:
>
> docs (if you don't already have a paid account) is to volunteer to
> help migrate the content.
Right. I guess I can commit 2hrs a Sunday. At least I get to learn
Confluence at the same time. Where's the recruitment office?
R.
>
> My hope is that this effort will be over ASAP and then the whole
> end-user documentation effort will be much more collaborative, and
> more freely available to OFBiz users and developers in general.
>
> -David
>
>
> Rafiu Fakunle wrote:
>> David E. Jones wrote:
>>>
>>> Which end user docs are you referring to?
>>>
>>> The ones from OpenSourceStrategies are, I believe, in the Word doc
>>> format but with OpenOffice could certainly be converted to odf.
>>>
>>> The stuff from Undersun is still sitting in the online doc server.
>>
>> Can I get access to that? IIRC that's the most comprehensive docs set
>> available for OFBiz.
>>
>>> I asked around for volunteers to move it to the Jira server at
>>> docs.ofbiz.org, and while a few people expressed interest nothing
>>> has gone into that yet.
>> My guess is it's because of the tedium of manually moving the content
>> across. Data entry is pretty much incredibly boring; worse still,
>> wheel reinvention. If the content is already there, then we need to
>> figure out how to move it over automagically rather than doing
>> copy-paste.
>>> It's there for the taking though!
>>
>> Cool. How do I access it?
>>
>> Thx,
>>
>> Rafiu.
>>
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> Rafiu Fakunle wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Are the end user docs available somewhere in an open format
>>>> (odf/xml)?
>>>>
>>>> Thx,
>>>>
>>>> Rafiu.
>>
Re: Ofbiz end user docs
Posted by "David E. Jones" <jo...@undersunconsulting.com>.
Rafiu,
We aren't selling the online docs any more because we no longer have a technical writer working on them full time. We also aren't handing out accounts for free because we'd like some help moving the docs to the new server and editing and cleaning them up, so for right now the only way to get access to those docs (if you don't already have a paid account) is to volunteer to help migrate the content.
My hope is that this effort will be over ASAP and then the whole end-user documentation effort will be much more collaborative, and more freely available to OFBiz users and developers in general.
-David
Rafiu Fakunle wrote:
> David E. Jones wrote:
>>
>> Which end user docs are you referring to?
>>
>> The ones from OpenSourceStrategies are, I believe, in the Word doc
>> format but with OpenOffice could certainly be converted to odf.
>>
>> The stuff from Undersun is still sitting in the online doc server.
>
> Can I get access to that? IIRC that's the most comprehensive docs set
> available for OFBiz.
>
>> I asked around for volunteers to move it to the Jira server at
>> docs.ofbiz.org, and while a few people expressed interest nothing has
>> gone into that yet.
> My guess is it's because of the tedium of manually moving the content
> across. Data entry is pretty much incredibly boring; worse still, wheel
> reinvention. If the content is already there, then we need to figure out
> how to move it over automagically rather than doing copy-paste.
>> It's there for the taking though!
>
> Cool. How do I access it?
>
> Thx,
>
> Rafiu.
>
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> Rafiu Fakunle wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Are the end user docs available somewhere in an open format (odf/xml)?
>>>
>>> Thx,
>>>
>>> Rafiu.
>
Re: Ofbiz end user docs
Posted by Rafiu Fakunle <ra...@knightshift.org>.
David E. Jones wrote:
>
> Which end user docs are you referring to?
>
> The ones from OpenSourceStrategies are, I believe, in the Word doc
> format but with OpenOffice could certainly be converted to odf.
>
> The stuff from Undersun is still sitting in the online doc server.
Can I get access to that? IIRC that's the most comprehensive docs set
available for OFBiz.
> I asked around for volunteers to move it to the Jira server at
> docs.ofbiz.org, and while a few people expressed interest nothing has
> gone into that yet.
My guess is it's because of the tedium of manually moving the content
across. Data entry is pretty much incredibly boring; worse still, wheel
reinvention. If the content is already there, then we need to figure out
how to move it over automagically rather than doing copy-paste.
> It's there for the taking though!
Cool. How do I access it?
Thx,
Rafiu.
>
> -David
>
>
> Rafiu Fakunle wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Are the end user docs available somewhere in an open format (odf/xml)?
>>
>> Thx,
>>
>> Rafiu.
Re: Ofbiz end user docs
Posted by "David E. Jones" <jo...@undersunconsulting.com>.
Which end user docs are you referring to?
The ones from OpenSourceStrategies are, I believe, in the Word doc format but with OpenOffice could certainly be converted to odf.
The stuff from Undersun is still sitting in the online doc server. I asked around for volunteers to move it to the Jira server at docs.ofbiz.org, and while a few people expressed interest nothing has gone into that yet. It's there for the taking though!
-David
Rafiu Fakunle wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Are the end user docs available somewhere in an open format (odf/xml)?
>
> Thx,
>
> Rafiu.