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Posted to dev@directory.apache.org by SHAWN E SMITH <se...@psu.edu> on 2016/05/09 17:58:41 UTC
Scim library contribution
All,
We renamed the project, the new repo is https://github.com/PennState/SCIMple-Identity for anyone interested.
Is there any status on our contribution offer?
Thanks,
Shawn
Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand.
--Martin Fowler
Shawn Smith
Director of Software Engineering
Administrative Information Services
814-321-5227
ses44@psu.edu
Re: Scim library contribution
Posted by Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>.
Le 13/05/16 23:06, SHAWN E SMITH a �crit :
> We can do that, but is there a way to do it without a tar ball? The project is very active and the tar ball would quickly fall out of sync.
Oh, sorry... I'm so old school ;-)
A link to the github repo should do the trick.
Re: Scim library contribution
Posted by SHAWN E SMITH <se...@psu.edu>.
We can do that, but is there a way to do it without a tar ball? The project is very active and the tar ball would quickly fall out of sync.
Thanks,
Shawn
"The programmer … works only slightly removed from pure thought-stuff.
He builds his castles in the air, from air, creating by exertion of the imagination."
— Fred Brooks
Shawn Smith
Director of Software Engineering
Administrative Information Services
Penn State University
814-321-5227
ses44@psu.edu
----- Original Message -----
From: "Emmanuel Lécharny" <el...@gmail.com>
To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <de...@directory.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 4:41:26 PM
Subject: Re: Scim library contribution
Le 13/05/16 21:10, SHAWN E SMITH a écrit :
> Thanks to all. If/when there is consensus can someone please advise on what steps we should follow to move things forward.
Simple : create a JIRA ticket, attach a tar ball to it. We will deal
with the next steps (voting you in as committers, etc)
Re: Scim library contribution
Posted by Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>.
Le 13/05/16 21:10, SHAWN E SMITH a �crit :
> Thanks to all. If/when there is consensus can someone please advise on what steps we should follow to move things forward.
Simple : create a JIRA ticket, attach a tar ball to it. We will deal
with the next steps (voting you in as committers, etc)
Re: Scim library contribution
Posted by SHAWN E SMITH <se...@psu.edu>.
Thanks to all. If/when there is consensus can someone please advise on what steps we should follow to move things forward.
We're excited for the opportunity.
"The programmer … works only slightly removed from pure thought-stuff.
He builds his castles in the air, from air, creating by exertion of the imagination."
— Fred Brooks
Shawn Smith
Director of Software Engineering
Administrative Information Services
Penn State University
814-321-5227
ses44@psu.edu
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Seelmann" <ma...@stefan-seelmann.de>
To: dev@directory.apache.org
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 1:50:07 PM
Subject: Re: Scim library contribution
+1
Even if I'm always sceptical adding new code to the Directory project, I
think the PennState guys are dedicated and will help maintain it.
Kind Regards,
Stefan
On 05/13/2016 01:46 PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
> +1
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
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> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Shawn McKinney <sm...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> Shawn
>>
>>> On May 12, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Lucas Theisen <lu...@pastdev.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> On May 12, 2016 8:24 AM, "Radovan Semancik" <
>> radovan.semancik@evolveum.com> wrote:
>>> On 05/12/2016 04:57 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote:
>>> Le 09/05/16 19:58, SHAWN E SMITH a écrit :
>>> All,
>>>
>>> We renamed the project, the new repo is
>> https://github.com/PennState/SCIMple-Identity for anyone interested.
>>>
>>> Is there any status on our contribution offer?
>>> As I said, I'm +1.
>>>
>>> Any other opinion ?
>>>
>>>
>>> +1, of course
>>>
>>> --
>>> Radovan Semancik
>>> Software Architect
>>> evolveum.com
>>>
>>
>>
>
RE: Scim library contribution
Posted by "Zheng, Kai" <ka...@intel.com>.
Yeah, before it becomes a TLP, there should be something to be done and happen. One thing is, have a separate web site. I discussed about this with an Apache officer and was told it was doable. There can be found quite a few examples, sub project can have standalone web site.
To evolve, we shouldn't keep all things together, to make the parent web site crowded and crowded.
Glad to have a new component from PSU!
Regards,
Kai
-----Original Message-----
From: Shawn McKinney [mailto:smckinney@apache.org]
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 7:16 AM
To: Apache Directory Developers List <de...@directory.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Scim library contribution
> On May 13, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The rational here is to make sure that we have some common interest in
> having those projects and the associated people working hand in hand,
> to create a strong community.
It has been immensely valuable to have the guidance of this project committee. It brings extra eyes to our code and processes.
>
> On May 13, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Fortress was also benefiting from ApacheDS, as all the unit tests are
> based on it. Now that a 1.0 is out, we can also think about making it
> a TLP. That would be up to Shawn and Chris to see when it would make
> sense, but the community around it is small atm.
Agreed. The community must grow before TLP status makes sense. Otherwise I guess you’re stuck with us cause we’re not giving up anytime soon. ;-)
Shawn
Re: Scim library contribution
Posted by Shawn McKinney <sm...@apache.org>.
> On May 13, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The rational here is to make sure that we have some common interest in
> having those projects and the associated people working hand in hand, to
> create a strong community.
It has been immensely valuable to have the guidance of this project committee. It brings extra eyes to our code and processes.
>
> On May 13, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Fortress was also benefiting from ApacheDS, as all the unit tests are
> based on it. Now that a 1.0 is out, we can also think about making it a
> TLP. That would be up to Shawn and Chris to see when it would make
> sense, but the community around it is small atm.
Agreed. The community must grow before TLP status makes sense. Otherwise I guess you’re stuck with us cause we’re not giving up anytime soon. ;-)
Shawn
Re: Scim library contribution
Posted by Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>.
Le 13/05/16 19:50, Stefan Seelmann a �crit :
> +1
>
> Even if I'm always sceptical adding new code to the Directory project, I
> think the PennState guys are dedicated and will help maintain it.
I think that Directory does not have to become a giant umbrella for many
IDM related projects. IMO, projects like Kerby, Fortress or eSCIMo are
expected to become TLP sonner or later. Kerby is probably close to this
state witha 1.0 out. Fortress is also close to be a new TLP.
The rational here is to make sure that we have some common interest in
having those projects and the associated people working hand in hand, to
create a strong community.
Kerby was, IMO, accepted because we needed to find a way to get a
kerberos server that works. Not that the existing implementation is bad
per se, but with the existing code base, and the heavy dependency on
ApacheDS and the LDAP API, the entry barrier is so high that it's
difficult to find new committers. I tend to think that Kerby benefited
from the Directory project, and especially from the exposure it brought,
and now that we have 2 PMC members with Kai and Jiajia, plus external
committers, we should be able to push it 'out' like MINA.
Fortress was also benefiting from ApacheDS, as all the unit tests are
based on it. Now that a 1.0 is out, we can also think about making it a
TLP. That would be up to Shawn and Chris to see when it would make
sense, but the community around it is small atm.
Scim, same story. Kiran started it, never had time to get a release out
of it, but this is definitively a component that would benefit from the
people around.
The other aspect is that going through incubation is quite heavy for
project like this one. Like it or not, we are on a corner of the IT
business... Nobody want to play around Identity Management, it's
everything but sexy. That makes it very hard to find new interested
people in this area. And if it was only us... Think aboit what happened
to OpenSSL last year !
We are not main stream, we are not making the buzz, except when a huge
security breach is found. Grabage men, this is what we are... Ah, if
only we were as sexy as something in the cloud, or a web framework... ;-)
Re: Scim library contribution
Posted by Stefan Seelmann <ma...@stefan-seelmann.de>.
+1
Even if I'm always sceptical adding new code to the Directory project, I
think the PennState guys are dedicated and will help maintain it.
Kind Regards,
Stefan
On 05/13/2016 01:46 PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
> +1
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> OFBiz based solutions & services
>
> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Shawn McKinney <sm...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> Shawn
>>
>>> On May 12, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Lucas Theisen <lu...@pastdev.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> On May 12, 2016 8:24 AM, "Radovan Semancik" <
>> radovan.semancik@evolveum.com> wrote:
>>> On 05/12/2016 04:57 PM, Emmanuel L�charny wrote:
>>> Le 09/05/16 19:58, SHAWN E SMITH a �crit :
>>> All,
>>>
>>> We renamed the project, the new repo is
>> https://github.com/PennState/SCIMple-Identity for anyone interested.
>>>
>>> Is there any status on our contribution offer?
>>> As I said, I'm +1.
>>>
>>> Any other opinion ?
>>>
>>>
>>> +1, of course
>>>
>>> --
>>> Radovan Semancik
>>> Software Architect
>>> evolveum.com
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Scim library contribution
Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
+1
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
OFBiz based solutions & services
OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Shawn McKinney <sm...@apache.org>
wrote:
> +1
>
> Shawn
>
> > On May 12, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Lucas Theisen <lu...@pastdev.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > +1
> >
> > On May 12, 2016 8:24 AM, "Radovan Semancik" <
> radovan.semancik@evolveum.com> wrote:
> > On 05/12/2016 04:57 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote:
> > Le 09/05/16 19:58, SHAWN E SMITH a écrit :
> > All,
> >
> > We renamed the project, the new repo is
> https://github.com/PennState/SCIMple-Identity for anyone interested.
> >
> > Is there any status on our contribution offer?
> > As I said, I'm +1.
> >
> > Any other opinion ?
> >
> >
> > +1, of course
> >
> > --
> > Radovan Semancik
> > Software Architect
> > evolveum.com
> >
>
>
Re: Scim library contribution
Posted by Shawn McKinney <sm...@apache.org>.
+1
Shawn
> On May 12, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Lucas Theisen <lu...@pastdev.com> wrote:
>
> +1
>
> On May 12, 2016 8:24 AM, "Radovan Semancik" <ra...@evolveum.com> wrote:
> On 05/12/2016 04:57 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote:
> Le 09/05/16 19:58, SHAWN E SMITH a écrit :
> All,
>
> We renamed the project, the new repo is https://github.com/PennState/SCIMple-Identity for anyone interested.
>
> Is there any status on our contribution offer?
> As I said, I'm +1.
>
> Any other opinion ?
>
>
> +1, of course
>
> --
> Radovan Semancik
> Software Architect
> evolveum.com
>
Re: Scim library contribution
Posted by Lucas Theisen <lu...@pastdev.com>.
+1
On May 12, 2016 8:24 AM, "Radovan Semancik" <ra...@evolveum.com>
wrote:
> On 05/12/2016 04:57 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote:
>
>> Le 09/05/16 19:58, SHAWN E SMITH a écrit :
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> We renamed the project, the new repo is
>>> https://github.com/PennState/SCIMple-Identity for anyone interested.
>>>
>>> Is there any status on our contribution offer?
>>>
>> As I said, I'm +1.
>>
>> Any other opinion ?
>>
>>
> +1, of course
>
> --
> Radovan Semancik
> Software Architect
> evolveum.com
>
>
Re: Scim library contribution
Posted by Radovan Semancik <ra...@evolveum.com>.
On 05/12/2016 04:57 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote:
> Le 09/05/16 19:58, SHAWN E SMITH a écrit :
>> All,
>>
>> We renamed the project, the new repo is https://github.com/PennState/SCIMple-Identity for anyone interested.
>>
>> Is there any status on our contribution offer?
> As I said, I'm +1.
>
> Any other opinion ?
>
+1, of course
--
Radovan Semancik
Software Architect
evolveum.com
Re: Scim library contribution
Posted by Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>.
Le 09/05/16 19:58, SHAWN E SMITH a �crit :
> All,
>
> We renamed the project, the new repo is https://github.com/PennState/SCIMple-Identity for anyone interested.
>
> Is there any status on our contribution offer?
As I said, I'm +1.
Any other opinion ?