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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Olivier Coutu <ol...@zerospam.ca> on 2019/06/10 18:43:19 UTC
__YOU_WON_01 FP on *won’t* with right single quotation mark
https://regex101.com/r/SUqMxn/1/
I understand that a single quote should be used when writing /won't/,
but it's probably not the first time __YOU_WON_01 hits on /won’t/ with a
right single quotation mark.
Apparently this can happen automatically in certain text editors when
there are two apostrophes in the same sentence.
I would suggest a second negative lookahead to correct the issue.
-Olivier
Re: __YOU_WON_01 FP on *won’t* with right single quotation mark
Posted by Bill Cole <sa...@billmail.scconsult.com>.
On 10 Jun 2019, at 14:43, Olivier Coutu wrote:
> https://regex101.com/r/SUqMxn/1/
>
> I understand that a single quote should be used when writing /won't/,
> but it's probably not the first time __YOU_WON_01 hits on /won’t/
> with a right single quotation mark.
>
> Apparently this can happen automatically in certain text editors when
> there are two apostrophes in the same sentence.
>
> I would suggest a second negative lookahead to correct the issue.
Do you have any examples of this causing a rule with an actual score to
match non-spam?
Re: __YOU_WON_01 FP on *won’t* with right single quotation mark
Posted by "@lbutlr" <kr...@kreme.com>.
On Jun 10, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Olivier Coutu <ol...@zerospam.ca> wrote:
> I would suggest a second negative lookahead to correct the issue.
If the rule doesn’t hit enough spam, the score goes down. It doesn’t matter if it’s esoterically correct or not.
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Re: __YOU_WON_01 FP on *won’t* with right single quotation mark
Posted by John Hardin <jh...@impsec.org>.
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019, John Hardin wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019, RW wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 09:05:55 -0700 (PDT)
>> John Hardin wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Think MSFT's annoying "smart quotes" converting a single typed
>>> apostrophe within a word into a Unicode right single quote so that it
>>> Looks Good.
>>>
>>> I feel it's a valid issue, and the fix is checked in (at least for
>>> one flavor of Unicode right single quote, I didn't review the entire
>>> Unicode code space).
>>
>> See also __YOU_WON_05
>
> Good point, I will fix that too.
Olivier sent me a spample and some more changes were needed.
Also, __hk_win_6 hits, and might need a similar exclusion. Hege?
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Re: __YOU_WON_01 FP on *won’t* with right single quotation mark
Posted by John Hardin <jh...@impsec.org>.
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019, RW wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 09:05:55 -0700 (PDT)
> John Hardin wrote:
>
>
>> Think MSFT's annoying "smart quotes" converting a single typed
>> apostrophe within a word into a Unicode right single quote so that it
>> Looks Good.
>>
>> I feel it's a valid issue, and the fix is checked in (at least for
>> one flavor of Unicode right single quote, I didn't review the entire
>> Unicode code space).
>
> See also __YOU_WON_05
Good point, I will fix that too.
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Re: __YOU_WON_01 FP on *won’t* with right single quotation mark
Posted by RW <rw...@googlemail.com>.
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 09:05:55 -0700 (PDT)
John Hardin wrote:
> Think MSFT's annoying "smart quotes" converting a single typed
> apostrophe within a word into a Unicode right single quote so that it
> Looks Good.
>
> I feel it's a valid issue, and the fix is checked in (at least for
> one flavor of Unicode right single quote, I didn't review the entire
> Unicode code space).
See also __YOU_WON_05
Re: __YOU_WON_01 FP on *won’t* with right single quotation mark
Posted by John Hardin <jh...@impsec.org>.
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019, RW wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 16:12:30 -0700 (PDT)
> John Hardin wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, Olivier Coutu wrote:
>>
>>> https://regex101.com/r/SUqMxn/1/
>>>
>>> I understand that a single quote should be used when
>>> writing /won't/, but it's probably not the first time __YOU_WON_01
>>> hits on /won’t/ with a right single quotation mark.
>>>
>>> Apparently this can happen automatically in certain text editors
>>> when there are two apostrophes in the same sentence.
>>>
>>> I would suggest a second negative lookahead to correct the issue.
>>
>> Thanks, I'll try to get that in for tonight's masscheck.
>
> It seems a bit premature. Possibly some editors do try to convert
> text quoted with two apostrophes into a proper quotation. If one tried
> to convert two legitimate apostrophes into a bogus quote, splitting-up
> words in the process, I'd consider that to be a significant bug.
It's not that.
Think MSFT's annoying "smart quotes" converting a single typed apostrophe
within a word into a Unicode right single quote so that it Looks Good.
I feel it's a valid issue, and the fix is checked in (at least for one
flavor of Unicode right single quote, I didn't review the entire Unicode
code space).
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Re: __YOU_WON_01 FP on *won’t* with right single quotation mark
Posted by RW <rw...@googlemail.com>.
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 16:12:30 -0700 (PDT)
John Hardin wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, Olivier Coutu wrote:
>
> > https://regex101.com/r/SUqMxn/1/
> >
> > I understand that a single quote should be used when
> > writing /won't/, but it's probably not the first time __YOU_WON_01
> > hits on /won’t/ with a right single quotation mark.
> >
> > Apparently this can happen automatically in certain text editors
> > when there are two apostrophes in the same sentence.
> >
> > I would suggest a second negative lookahead to correct the issue.
>
> Thanks, I'll try to get that in for tonight's masscheck.
It seems a bit premature. Possibly some editors do try to convert
text quoted with two apostrophes into a proper quotation. If one tried
to convert two legitimate apostrophes into a bogus quote, splitting-up
words in the process, I'd consider that to be a significant bug.
Re: __YOU_WON_01 FP on *won’t* with right single quotation mark
Posted by John Hardin <jh...@impsec.org>.
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, Olivier Coutu wrote:
> https://regex101.com/r/SUqMxn/1/
>
> I understand that a single quote should be used when writing /won't/, but
> it's probably not the first time __YOU_WON_01 hits on /won’t/ with a right
> single quotation mark.
>
> Apparently this can happen automatically in certain text editors when there
> are two apostrophes in the same sentence.
>
> I would suggest a second negative lookahead to correct the issue.
Thanks, I'll try to get that in for tonight's masscheck.
--
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