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Re: [OT] mod_jk and mod_rewrite

By the way, your message shows a time that sems out of whack, as compared to my time, but 
also as compared to the other messages on the list.
This can create some problems for people who follow this list by date/time (*).  You may 
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(*) For example, it looks like I answered your question before you even asked it.
This would be a useful gift to have, except that I don't believe that I have Pid's 
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Re: [OT] mod_jk and mod_rewrite

Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
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André,

On 11/5/12 4:35 PM, André Warnier wrote:
> Mark Eggers wrote:
>> On 11/5/2012 11:56 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
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>>> André,
>>> 
>>> On 11/5/12 5:24 AM, André Warnier wrote:
>>>> By the way, your message shows a time that sems out of whack,
>>>> as compared to my time, but also as compared to the other
>>>> messages on the list. This can create some problems for
>>>> people who follow this list by date/time (*).  You may want
>>>> to check the date/time on your workstation.
>>>> 
>>>> (*) For example, it looks like I answered your question
>>>> before you even asked it. This would be a useful gift to
>>>> have, except that I don't believe that I have Pid's crystall
>>>> ball at the moment, so I think your workstation time is the
>>>> culprit.
>>> 
>>> Even if you had the precognitive crystal ball, it would be
>>> tough to get the mailing list to think that your initial
>>> message was a followup to one posted later*.
>>> 
>>> - -chris
>>> 
>>> * As usual, ignoring quantum effects
>> 
> 
> With hindsight (foresight ?) I should have (will have ?) prefixed
> my answer with
> 
> Pete, in response to the message which you will be posting later
> today, ...
> 
> That would have made the list archives a lot more interesting.

For a few months, I had the pleasure of living in Florence, Italy
while working remotely for my employer who is based in the
America/New_York time zone. To add to the fun, I didn't have Internet
access in the flat I was renting, so I had to go to an Internet Café
at intervals to sync my email, perform RCS commits, etc.

I ended up writing a lot of emails like that.

Things like "by the time you read this message I will have done [___]
but I haven't actually done it, yet." Since I was living in a country
that has a different grammatical case for everything, I figured that
the future-past had to be one of them. Alas, such was not the case.
(Not that I could have handled learning how to do it in Italian at the
time: I was still working on the bare essentials like "My chest makes
noise when I breathe" and "are you sure it's viral and not bacterial?").

- -chris
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Re: [OT] mod_jk and mod_rewrite

Posted by André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com>.
Mark Eggers wrote:
> On 11/5/2012 11:56 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
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>> André,
>>
>> On 11/5/12 5:24 AM, André Warnier wrote:
>>> By the way, your message shows a time that sems out of whack, as
>>> compared to my time, but also as compared to the other messages on
>>> the list. This can create some problems for people who follow this
>>> list by date/time (*).  You may want to check the date/time on your
>>> workstation.
>>>
>>> (*) For example, it looks like I answered your question before you
>>> even asked it. This would be a useful gift to have, except that I
>>> don't believe that I have Pid's crystall ball at the moment, so I
>>> think your workstation time is the culprit.
>>
>> Even if you had the precognitive crystal ball, it would be tough to
>> get the mailing list to think that your initial message was a followup
>> to one posted later*.
>>
>> - -chris
>>
>> * As usual, ignoring quantum effects
> 

With hindsight (foresight ?) I should have (will have ?) prefixed my answer with

Pete,
in response to the message which you will be posting later today, ...

That would have made the list archives a lot more interesting.



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Re: [OT] mod_jk and mod_rewrite

Posted by Mark Eggers <it...@yahoo.com>.
On 11/5/2012 11:56 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
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> André,
>
> On 11/5/12 5:24 AM, André Warnier wrote:
>> By the way, your message shows a time that sems out of whack, as
>> compared to my time, but also as compared to the other messages on
>> the list. This can create some problems for people who follow this
>> list by date/time (*).  You may want to check the date/time on your
>> workstation.
>>
>> (*) For example, it looks like I answered your question before you
>> even asked it. This would be a useful gift to have, except that I
>> don't believe that I have Pid's crystall ball at the moment, so I
>> think your workstation time is the culprit.
>
> Even if you had the precognitive crystal ball, it would be tough to
> get the mailing list to think that your initial message was a followup
> to one posted later*.
>
> - -chris
>
> * As usual, ignoring quantum effects

And time machines

/mde/


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Re: [OT] mod_jk and mod_rewrite

Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
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André,

On 11/5/12 5:24 AM, André Warnier wrote:
> By the way, your message shows a time that sems out of whack, as 
> compared to my time, but also as compared to the other messages on
> the list. This can create some problems for people who follow this
> list by date/time (*).  You may want to check the date/time on your
> workstation.
> 
> (*) For example, it looks like I answered your question before you
> even asked it. This would be a useful gift to have, except that I
> don't believe that I have Pid's crystall ball at the moment, so I
> think your workstation time is the culprit.

Even if you had the precognitive crystal ball, it would be tough to
get the mailing list to think that your initial message was a followup
to one posted later*.

- -chris

* As usual, ignoring quantum effects
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Re: [OT] mod_jk and mod_rewrite

Posted by André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com>.
Pete Storey wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Thanks for the various timely emails - I am in Australia hence I am in
> front of you time wise!
> 
> What I didn't see was any actual answer to the question though - just
> queried the email list for this thread and this was the first reply I got!
>  Could you resend your actual answer?
> 
Hi.
You must have changed something,since now your message is timed 08:48, and for me (in 
Europe) it is now 10:29.  Or else our quantum effect time-tunnel is rearing its head again.

My original answer was :

quote

A side suggestion : in one of the on-line documentation pages reative to the mod_jk 
configuration, at the very bottom of the page, it shows another "configuration style" : 
instead of using JkMount/JkUnmount, you use an Apache <Location> (or <LocationMatch>) 
section, with a line :

SetHandler jakarta-servlet

This does not really change anything in terms of how it works deep down, but it makes it 
much clearer (in my view) how the order of precedence is determined at the Apache level.
The "SetHandler" directive indicates what the "Apache response handler" is, and this fits 
better in the global Apache request/response cycle, allowing one to figure out which thing 
runs before/after what.

unquote

The JkMount/JkUnmount pair is (as you have found out) somewhat mysterious in terms of the 
exact point at which it inserts itself in the Apache request processing cycle.

I haven't gone back (or forward?) to your first post, to check if you are using 
VirtualHosts, but maybe as another line of enquiry : JkMount/JkUnMount have peculiar rules 
as to how they are/are not carried over from the "main" Apache configuration, to 
VirtualHosts.  See the explanation of "JkMountCopy" for mor details.


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Re: [OT] mod_jk and mod_rewrite

Posted by Pete Storey <pe...@gmail.com>.
Hi

Thanks for the various timely emails - I am in Australia hence I am in
front of you time wise!

What I didn't see was any actual answer to the question though - just
queried the email list for this thread and this was the first reply I got!
 Could you resend your actual answer?

Cheers
Pete




On 05/11/2012 21:24, "André Warnier" <aw...@ice-sa.com> wrote:

By the way, your message shows a time that sems out of whack, as compared
to my time, but 
also as compared to the other messages on the list.
This can create some problems for people who follow this list by date/time
(*).  You may 
want to check the date/time on your workstation.

(*) For example, it looks like I answered your question before you even
asked it.
This would be a useful gift to have, except that I don't believe that I
have Pid's 
crystall ball at the moment, so I think your workstation time is the
culprit.






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