[jira] [Comment Edited] (HBASE-4755) HBase based block placement in DFS

["Jonathan Hsieh (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>]

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Jonathan Hsieh edited comment on HBASE-4755 at 3/1/13 10:32 PM:
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[~devaraj] thanks! This level of description is exactly what I was hoping for.

Questions (some are just clarifying):
* An assignmentDomain is not what I've been calling an affinity group over in HDFS-2576 -- it is the set of possible DN's to assign to, yeah?  Are assignment domains persisted or just queried when creating tables (how does this info come from hdfs)?
* Table creation was recently changed with the inclusion of HBASE-7365.  Probably need figure out how to thread the AssignmentDomain stuff in, has interesting follow-on work for snapshot clones.  (snapshots should likely ignore on the first cut)
* Step 3 -- this is done in assignment manager?
* recovery done by assignment manager?
* What does the maintenance tool interact with and need to see -- the new meta table cols, the master, the assignment domain?  is this maintenance tool the only place other than the creation time that changes the preferred dn's?  Should there be commands to manually override the dn choices?  What would the be roughly for surgery purposes?
* The optimization policies are nice.
* For natural splits -- for the first implementation -- what is the story? (no preferred dn's specified? copies parent's preferred DN's?)  If there are no dn's specified or if the specified dn's are invalid we "fall back" to the old randome policies, yeah?
                
      was (Author: jmhsieh):
    [~ddas] thanks! This level of description is exactly what I was hoping for.

Questions (some are just clarifying):
* An assignmentDomain is not what I've been calling an affinity group over in HDFS-2576 -- it is the set of possible DN's to assign to, yeah?  Are assignment domains persisted or just queried when creating tables (how does this info come from hdfs)?
* Table creation was recently changed with the inclusion of HBASE-7365.  Probably need figure out how to thread the AssignmentDomain stuff in, has interesting follow-on work for snapshot clones.  (snapshots should likely ignore on the first cut)
* Step 3 -- this is done in assignment manager?
* recovery done by assignment manager?
* What does the maintenance tool interact with and need to see -- the new meta table cols, the master, the assignment domain?  is this maintenance tool the only place other than the creation time that changes the preferred dn's?  Should there be commands to manually override the dn choices?  What would the be roughly for surgery purposes?
* The optimization policies are nice.
* For natural splits -- for the first implementation -- what is the story? (no preferred dn's specified? copies parent's preferred DN's?)  If there are no dn's specified or if the specified dn's are invalid we "fall back" to the old randome policies, yeah?
                  
> HBase based block placement in DFS
> ----------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HBASE-4755
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-4755
>             Project: HBase
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>    Affects Versions: 0.94.0
>            Reporter: Karthik Ranganathan
>            Assignee: Christopher Gist
>            Priority: Critical
>         Attachments: 4755-wip-1.patch, hbase-4755-notes.txt
>
>
> The feature as is only useful for HBase clusters that care about data locality on regionservers, but this feature can also enable a lot of nice features down the road.
> The basic idea is as follows: instead of letting HDFS determine where to replicate data (r=3) by place blocks on various regions, it is better to let HBase do so by providing hints to HDFS through the DFS client. That way instead of replicating data at a blocks level, we can replicate data at a per-region level (each region owned by a promary, a secondary and a tertiary regionserver). This is better for 2 things:
> - Can make region failover faster on clusters which benefit from data affinity
> - On large clusters with random block placement policy, this helps reduce the probability of data loss
> The algo is as follows:
> - Each region in META will have 3 columns which are the preferred regionservers for that region (primary, secondary and tertiary)
> - Preferred assignment can be controlled by a config knob
> - Upon cluster start, HMaster will enter a mapping from each region to 3 regionservers (random hash, could use current locality, etc)
> - The load balancer would assign out regions preferring region assignments to primary over secondary over tertiary over any other node
> - Periodically (say weekly, configurable) the HMaster would run a locality checked and make sure the map it has for region to regionservers is optimal.
> Down the road, this can be enhanced to control region placement in the following cases:
> - Mixed hardware SKU where some regionservers can hold fewer regions
> - Load balancing across tables where we dont want multiple regions of a table to get assigned to the same regionservers
> - Multi-tenancy, where we can restrict the assignment of the regions of some table to a subset of regionservers, so an abusive app cannot take down the whole HBase cluster.

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