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[C2]: Going beta this week?

Hi,

looking at the ToDo list we have finished every action except
the class loading issue.
As some of you already noted over the last weeks we could
simply skip that action for the first beta.
And: AVALON IS BETA!!! Great job, Avaloners!! 

So what is left to do?

1. We have the bug somewhere in the caching algorithm which
   produces invalid responses on some systems.
2. We have some proposals for new features/changing features.
   Most of them can be done in a later version. We have
   to check if there are any which would make incompatible
   changes and decide on them (I think the SAXConnector is
   one of this - see my following mail).
3. Prepare the beta version.

As these are only "small tasks" I think we should manifest
the 18th of may as the release date for Cocoon2 beta1.
The problems with the cache should be fixed by that date 
(hopefully).

What do you think of that?


Carsten 

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Re: [Vote/Poll] Cocoon conference / workshop - Results

Posted by Drasko Kokic <dr...@yahoo.com>.
There was a whole day workshop about it on the JAX
2001 a ten days ago.  I think it would be a better
idea to organise it within one of the bigger
conferences (rather than trying to make it self
contained).

Drasko

--- Matthew Langham <ml...@sundn.de> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> a couple of weeks ago I posted a vote/poll request
> for a possible Cocoon
> conference/workshop in September this year.
> 
> In all I received only 9 answers. After discussing
> the results with Stefano
> and others from the Cocoon team we decided that - at
> the moment anyway - the
> number of responses do not warrant the further
> planning of such an event. So
> for the moment we have decided to postpone an event
> of this kind.
> 
> Cocoon 1 ist now widely in use - and Cocoon 2 will
> go beta before the end of
> May - so we can reckon with increasing visibility of
> Cocoon through the
> coming months. Therefore we do see the possibility
> of a Cocoon event
> becoming more feasible as we progress. But of course
> on the other hand it
> may turn out that there is no real need for an
> individual event as Cocoon
> becomes a theme at other conferences such as
> ApacheCon Europe or XML
> conferences etc.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Matthew Langham
> 
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[Vote/Poll] Cocoon conference / workshop - Results

Posted by Matthew Langham <ml...@sundn.de>.
Hi,

a couple of weeks ago I posted a vote/poll request for a possible Cocoon
conference/workshop in September this year.

In all I received only 9 answers. After discussing the results with Stefano
and others from the Cocoon team we decided that - at the moment anyway - the
number of responses do not warrant the further planning of such an event. So
for the moment we have decided to postpone an event of this kind.

Cocoon 1 ist now widely in use - and Cocoon 2 will go beta before the end of
May - so we can reckon with increasing visibility of Cocoon through the
coming months. Therefore we do see the possibility of a Cocoon event
becoming more feasible as we progress. But of course on the other hand it
may turn out that there is no real need for an individual event as Cocoon
becomes a theme at other conferences such as ApacheCon Europe or XML
conferences etc.

Best regards

Matthew Langham

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Re: [C2]: Going beta this week?

Posted by giacomo <gi...@apache.org>.

On Mon, 14 May 2001, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:

> Hi,
>
> looking at the ToDo list we have finished every action except
> the class loading issue.
> As some of you already noted over the last weeks we could
> simply skip that action for the first beta.
> And: AVALON IS BETA!!! Great job, Avaloners!!
>
> So what is left to do?
>
> 1. We have the bug somewhere in the caching algorithm which
>    produces invalid responses on some systems.

Yup.

> 2. We have some proposals for new features/changing features.
>    Most of them can be done in a later version. We have
>    to check if there are any which would make incompatible
>    changes and decide on them (I think the SAXConnector is
>    one of this - see my following mail).

I think we need to vote on Sylvains proposal to put the parameter
element inside pipelines into the map namespace. This is enssetial
because it alters the sitemap syntax in a backward incompatible way.

According to his analysis I'm +0 on that.

The other features/changes are IMHO add-ons to the sitemap
semantic/syntax which as you've stated can be implemented later on.

> 3. Prepare the beta version.

Yes. This needs a check if the build.xml can produce the right
distribtions anymore.

> As these are only "small tasks" I think we should manifest
> the 18th of may as the release date for Cocoon2 beta1.
> The problems with the cache should be fixed by that date
> (hopefully).

Can anybody have a look at the commandline mode of C2. I remember there
have been some issues left.

Stefano once promised C2 should be able to produce the sites for all
apache projects (online as well as offline) to eliminate the stylebook
tool which is poorly documented and maintained. Even if C2 is quite huge
as a distro we need to vote if we're still behinde this promise because
there has been a request for it on the general list a few weeks ago.
Also if the yote is "yes" we need to see if we can produce a "for
documentation generation only dist" for this purpose. This of course can
be done in between beta 1 and beta 2.

Giacomo


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[Vote/Poll] Cocoon conference / workshop - Results

Posted by Matthew Langham <ml...@sundn.de>.
Hi,

a couple of weeks ago I posted a vote/poll request for a possible Cocoon
conference/workshop in September this year.

In all I received only 9 answers. After discussing the results with Stefano
and others from the Cocoon team we decided that - at the moment anyway - the
number of responses do not warrant the further planning of such an event. So
for the moment we have decided to postpone an event of this kind.

Cocoon 1 ist now widely in use - and Cocoon 2 will go beta before the end of
May - so we can reckon with increasing visibility of Cocoon through the
coming months. Therefore we do see the possibility of a Cocoon event
becoming more feasible as we progress. But of course on the other hand it
may turn out that there is no real need for an individual event as Cocoon
becomes a theme at other conferences such as ApacheCon Europe or XML
conferences etc.

Best regards

Matthew Langham

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