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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org> on 2011/08/03 21:29:33 UTC
Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
(Taking the opportunity to Refactor a new thread on OpenOffice.org)
Are there any short term plans to update the main landing pages of the
existing OpenOffice.org website(s) to provide user awareness of the
transition of the product and project to Apache?
I don't know 1) how long it will take to actually get this transitioned,
and 2) how hard it is to update the Oracle-hosted sites, but I think it
would be really useful to have a few blurbs about the future plans of
Apache OpenOffice get put on the existing OpenOffice.org site sooner
rather than later.
The blog feed on the homepage is nice, but not enough.
Or is this too much for the moment?
- Shane
Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by Simon Phipps <si...@webmink.com>.
On 3 Aug 2011, at 20:29, Shane Curcuru wrote:
> (Taking the opportunity to Refactor a new thread on OpenOffice.org)
>
> Are there any short term plans to update the main landing pages of the existing OpenOffice.org website(s) to provide user awareness of the transition of the product and project to Apache?
>
> I don't know 1) how long it will take to actually get this transitioned, and 2) how hard it is to update the Oracle-hosted sites, but I think it would be really useful to have a few blurbs about the future plans of Apache OpenOffice get put on the existing OpenOffice.org site sooner rather than later.
>
> The blog feed on the homepage is nice, but not enough.
>
> Or is this too much for the moment?
It would also be helpful to explain to visitors realistically when they are likely to see a new release for their platform and what alternatives to waiting exist.
S.
Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 08/03/2011 10:31 PM, schrieb Larry Gusaas:
> On 2011/08/03 2:26 PM Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> Sorry, of course I meant these:
>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org
>> http://www.openoffice.org/news
>>
>> I think you knew this. ;-)
> Of course. But only after clicking on the previous links which opened a
> pop up in Safari which wouldn't go away until I force quit Safari.
With Firefox I now was just moved to the page but without any further
problems.
I hate it also to restart my browser, sorry again for the inconvenience.
> Pretty smart spammer to take advantage of a left out letter in a URL
Yeah, the typical domain grabber business. :-(
Marcus
Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com>.
On 2011/08/03 2:26 PM Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Sorry, of course I meant these:
>
> http://www.openoffice.org
> http://www.openoffice.org/news
>
> I think you knew this. ;-)
Of course. But only after clicking on the previous links which opened a pop up in Safari which
wouldn't go away until I force quit Safari.
Pretty smart spammer to take advantage of a left out letter in a URL
Larry
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Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese
Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Sorry, of course I meant these:
http://www.openoffice.org
http://www.openoffice.org/news
I think you knew this. ;-)
Marcus
Am 08/03/2011 10:13 PM, schrieb Larry Gusaas:
>
> On 2011/08/03 1:43 PM Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> Do you mean this?
>>
>> <deleted spam links />
>>
>> Or which landing pages do you have in mind?
>>
>> Marcus
> Why are you posting spam links? Both links leave out the final e in
> openoffice and take me to spam sites.
>
> Larry
Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com>.
On 2011/08/03 1:43 PM Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Do you mean this?
>
> <deleted spam links />
>
> Or which landing pages do you have in mind?
>
> Marcus
Why are you posting spam links? Both links leave out the final e in openoffice and take me to
spam sites.
Larry
--
_________________________________
Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese
Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org>.
Sorry, should have mentioned that press@ is a privately archived list.
It's where the press team may discuss pre-release information, along
with discussing ASF policy and the like, and thus is one of the few
lists that is not publicly archived.
Just email press@ with questions and they will be sure to include you
(or the list, as appropriate) with replies.
- Shane
P.S. Some foundation-level lists, including press@, trademarks@, and
board@ - where the ASF may discusses either personnel or internal policy
matters - are the rare exceptions to the general concept that everything
that can be done on a publicly archived list should be done on a
publicly archived list. The private@ lists for all (P)PMCs are the
other privately archived exception.
On 8/4/2011 4:45 PM, Graham Lauder wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:08:10 Graham Lauder wrote:
>> On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 01:39:23 Shane Curcuru wrote:
>>> On 8/4/2011 8:06 AM, Graham Lauder wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:58:44 Andrew Rist wrote:
>>>>> On 8/3/2011 2:27 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>
>>
>> wrote:
>>> ...snip...
>>>
>>>> In the past press releases were hacked about with on the private PR
>>>> list or on occasion the also private MarCon list, for obvious reasons.
>>>> Is there a policy for creating such marketing materials here at
>>>> Apache.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> GL
>>>
>>> Apache has a Press team led by the wonderful Sally here:
>>> http://www.apache.org/press/
>>>
>>> Who tweets regularly:
>>> http://twitter.com/TheASF
>>>
>>> Any Apache press releases should be coordinated with them on
>>> press@apache.org - once the PPMC here has some specific questions about
>>> publicity here, you should ping press@ to get a conversation started
>>> there.
>>>
>>> Note that the Apache Incubator has specific policies about press
>>>
>>> releases for incubating projects:
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html
>>>
>>> In terms of *what* to say, it's up to the project to decide, and
>>> typically just get any final signoff from press@. The ASF has a
>>> corporate press release account and will issue official releases for
>>> major news from any of our projects.
>>>
>>> Oh, and the official ASF boilerplate is available:
>>> http://www.apache.org/press/boilerplate/
>>>
>>> - Shane
>>
>> Excellent, thanks for that Shane. I'll go over these before I work on a
>> draft and subscribe to the press list.
>
> Assuming of course that this is a possibility
>
>>
>> Cheers
>> GL
Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by Graham Lauder <yo...@openoffice.org>.
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:08:10 Graham Lauder wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 01:39:23 Shane Curcuru wrote:
> > On 8/4/2011 8:06 AM, Graham Lauder wrote:
> > > On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:58:44 Andrew Rist wrote:
> > >> On 8/3/2011 2:27 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> > >>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>
>
> wrote:
> > ...snip...
> >
> > > In the past press releases were hacked about with on the private PR
> > > list or on occasion the also private MarCon list, for obvious reasons.
> > > Is there a policy for creating such marketing materials here at
> > > Apache.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > GL
> >
> > Apache has a Press team led by the wonderful Sally here:
> > http://www.apache.org/press/
> >
> > Who tweets regularly:
> > http://twitter.com/TheASF
> >
> > Any Apache press releases should be coordinated with them on
> > press@apache.org - once the PPMC here has some specific questions about
> > publicity here, you should ping press@ to get a conversation started
> > there.
> >
> > Note that the Apache Incubator has specific policies about press
> >
> > releases for incubating projects:
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html
> >
> > In terms of *what* to say, it's up to the project to decide, and
> > typically just get any final signoff from press@. The ASF has a
> > corporate press release account and will issue official releases for
> > major news from any of our projects.
> >
> > Oh, and the official ASF boilerplate is available:
> > http://www.apache.org/press/boilerplate/
> >
> > - Shane
>
> Excellent, thanks for that Shane. I'll go over these before I work on a
> draft and subscribe to the press list.
Assuming of course that this is a possibility
>
> Cheers
> GL
Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by Graham Lauder <yo...@openoffice.org>.
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 01:39:23 Shane Curcuru wrote:
> On 8/4/2011 8:06 AM, Graham Lauder wrote:
> > On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:58:44 Andrew Rist wrote:
> >> On 8/3/2011 2:27 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>
wrote:
> ...snip...
>
> > In the past press releases were hacked about with on the private PR list
> > or on occasion the also private MarCon list, for obvious reasons. Is
> > there a policy for creating such marketing materials here at Apache.
> >
> > Cheers
> > GL
>
> Apache has a Press team led by the wonderful Sally here:
>
> http://www.apache.org/press/
>
> Who tweets regularly:
>
> http://twitter.com/TheASF
>
> Any Apache press releases should be coordinated with them on
> press@apache.org - once the PPMC here has some specific questions about
> publicity here, you should ping press@ to get a conversation started
> there.
>
> Note that the Apache Incubator has specific policies about press
> releases for incubating projects:
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html
>
> In terms of *what* to say, it's up to the project to decide, and
> typically just get any final signoff from press@. The ASF has a
> corporate press release account and will issue official releases for
> major news from any of our projects.
>
> Oh, and the official ASF boilerplate is available:
>
> http://www.apache.org/press/boilerplate/
>
> - Shane
Excellent, thanks for that Shane. I'll go over these before I work on a draft
and subscribe to the press list.
Cheers
GL
Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by Graham Lauder <yo...@openoffice.org>.
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 06:18:33 Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 5:06 AM, Graham Lauder <yo...@openoffice.org>wrote:
> > On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:58:44 Andrew Rist wrote:
> > > On 8/3/2011 2:27 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > >> Do you mean this?
> > > >>
> > > >> http://www.openoffic.org
> > > >> http://www.openoffic.org/news
> > > >>
> > > >> Or which landing pages do you have in mind?
> > > >
> > > > An idea: is there any easy way to get it into the header, so it is on
> > > > every page? Something like "News: Apache OpenOffice.org!" with a
> > > > link, perhaps to a new blog post. We could first write a blog post,
> > > > specifically reaching out to OOo community members and telling them
> > > > how they can get involved. Then, once that is posted, get that link
> > > > out broadly, via the OOo website, wiki, mailing lists, forums,
> > > > Facebook page, Twitter, etc.
> > >
> > > +1
> > > I will take care of updating OOo site when we are ready
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > > It might make sense to wait until we first do the source migration
> > > > and have Bugzilla, the wikis and forums migrated. But right around
> > > > then would be a good time to put out the word.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Rob
> >
> > We should probably be looking at a press release as well as part of that.
> > We can use the announce@ list simultaneously, the majority of subscribers
> > of
> > which, are our target Audience. If people are subscribed to that list
> > anything sent via that medium can't be considered spam.
>
> Graham--
>
> Are you talking about annoucements@openoffice.org? We had a small
> discussion about this list a few weeks ago and Marcus pointed out that
> that list is "moderated ". So...yes, we should definitely use this and
> hope whoever IS the moderator jsut pushes the announcement through. I
> don't think we got an answer on this. I'll make some contacts and see what
> I can determine.
Hi Kay
Florian was one manager of the list IIRC and of course so was Louis. Louis is
on the PPMC now, so unless there has been a change in terms of their abilities
on the OOo lists then we should be good.
Cheers
GL
>
> > Releases should go just to the tech press to remind them that the project
> > is
> > alive and kicking, wider than that is probably not necessary at this
> > stage.
> >
> > Next press release after that should be to announce the "Non Apache"
> > release
> > if there is going to be one (I've made my feelings on this release known
> > but
> > we'll see what the consensus is)
> >
> > In the past press releases were hacked about with on the private PR list
> > or on
> > occasion the also private MarCon list, for obvious reasons. Is there a
> > policy
> > for creating such marketing materials here at Apache.
> >
> > Cheers
> > GL
> >
> > > >> Marcus
> > > >>
> > > >> Am 08/03/2011 09:29 PM, schrieb Shane Curcuru:
> > > >>> (Taking the opportunity to Refactor a new thread on OpenOffice.org)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Are there any short term plans to update the main landing pages of
> >
> > the
> >
> > > >>> existing OpenOffice.org website(s) to provide user awareness of the
> > > >>> transition of the product and project to Apache?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I don't know 1) how long it will take to actually get this
> > > >>> transitioned, and 2) how hard it is to update the Oracle-hosted
> >
> > sites,
> >
> > > >>> but I think it would be really useful to have a few blurbs about
> > > >>> the future plans of Apache OpenOffice get put on the existing
> > > >>> OpenOffice.org site sooner rather than later.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The blog feed on the homepage is nice, but not enough.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Or is this too much for the moment?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> - Shane
Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org>.
On 8/4/2011 8:06 AM, Graham Lauder wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:58:44 Andrew Rist wrote:
>> On 8/3/2011 2:27 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
...snip...
> In the past press releases were hacked about with on the private PR list or on
> occasion the also private MarCon list, for obvious reasons. Is there a policy
> for creating such marketing materials here at Apache.
>
> Cheers
> GL
Apache has a Press team led by the wonderful Sally here:
http://www.apache.org/press/
Who tweets regularly:
http://twitter.com/TheASF
Any Apache press releases should be coordinated with them on
press@apache.org - once the PPMC here has some specific questions about
publicity here, you should ping press@ to get a conversation started
there.
Note that the Apache Incubator has specific policies about press
releases for incubating projects:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html
In terms of *what* to say, it's up to the project to decide, and
typically just get any final signoff from press@. The ASF has a
corporate press release account and will issue official releases for
major news from any of our projects.
Oh, and the official ASF boilerplate is available:
http://www.apache.org/press/boilerplate/
- Shane
Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by Eike Rathke <oo...@erack.de>.
Hi ooo-dev,
On Friday, 2011-08-05 00:09:32 +0200, Eike Rathke wrote:
> [... OOo mailing lists ...]
> I suspect incoming SMTP or some other mail accepting service being
> disfunctional. A test mail sent an hour ago so far didn't deliver any
> result, not even a bounce.
Seems someone woke up. The test mail made it through today and I also
receive spam again in my moderator's box.
Eike
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Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by Eike Rathke <oo...@erack.de>.
Hi Dave,
On Thursday, 2011-08-04 11:25:19 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
> Is users@openoffice.org moderated?
Yes, but only for posts from non-subscribed users.
> If so that could why nothing has come through in a week.
Apparently there's no activity on any list. I'm one of the moderators
for the l10n and sc dev lists and there isn't even spam coming through.
I suspect incoming SMTP or some other mail accepting service being
disfunctional. A test mail sent an hour ago so far didn't deliver any
result, not even a bounce.
Eike
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Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by Jean Weber <je...@gmail.com>.
On 05/08/2011, at 4:25, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Is users@openoffice.org moderated? If so that could why nothing has come through in a week.
>
Yes, posts to users@ from non-subscribed people are moderated. If posts from subscribed people are not coming through, that is probably a different problem.
I note that the dev@documentation.OOo list hasn't been passing any messages through for several weeks (only discovered this yesterday). Authors@docs.OOo isn't archiving although messages are being distributed. Fortunately we had set up a new list on the ODFAuthors domain some time ago, just in case...
So something is definitely wrong with at least some of the lists.
Jean
Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 5:06 AM, Graham Lauder <yo...@openoffice.org>wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:58:44 Andrew Rist wrote:
>>> On 8/3/2011 2:27 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>
>> wrote:
>>>>> Do you mean this?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.openoffic.org
>>>>> http://www.openoffic.org/news
>>>>>
>>>>> Or which landing pages do you have in mind?
>>>>
>>>> An idea: is there any easy way to get it into the header, so it is on
>>>> every page? Something like "News: Apache OpenOffice.org!" with a
>>>> link, perhaps to a new blog post. We could first write a blog post,
>>>> specifically reaching out to OOo community members and telling them
>>>> how they can get involved. Then, once that is posted, get that link
>>>> out broadly, via the OOo website, wiki, mailing lists, forums,
>>>> Facebook page, Twitter, etc.
>>>
>>> +1
>>> I will take care of updating OOo site when we are ready
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>> It might make sense to wait until we first do the source migration and
>>>> have Bugzilla, the wikis and forums migrated. But right around then
>>>> would be a good time to put out the word.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Rob
>>
>>
>> We should probably be looking at a press release as well as part of that.
>> We can use the announce@ list simultaneously, the majority of subscribers
>> of
>> which, are our target Audience. If people are subscribed to that list
>> anything sent via that medium can't be considered spam.
>>
>
> Graham--
>
> Are you talking about annoucements@openoffice.org? We had a small discussion
> about this list a few weeks ago and Marcus pointed out that that list is
> "moderated ". So...yes, we should definitely use this and hope whoever IS
> the moderator jsut pushes the announcement through. I don't think we got an
> answer on this. I'll make some contacts and see what I can determine.
Kay,
Is users@openoffice.org moderated? If so that could why nothing has come through in a week.
Regards,
Dave
>
>
>> Releases should go just to the tech press to remind them that the project
>> is
>> alive and kicking, wider than that is probably not necessary at this stage.
>>
>> Next press release after that should be to announce the "Non Apache"
>> release
>> if there is going to be one (I've made my feelings on this release known
>> but
>> we'll see what the consensus is)
>>
>> In the past press releases were hacked about with on the private PR list or
>> on
>> occasion the also private MarCon list, for obvious reasons. Is there a
>> policy
>> for creating such marketing materials here at Apache.
>>
>> Cheers
>> GL
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 08/03/2011 09:29 PM, schrieb Shane Curcuru:
>>>>>> (Taking the opportunity to Refactor a new thread on OpenOffice.org)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there any short term plans to update the main landing pages of
>> the
>>>>>> existing OpenOffice.org website(s) to provide user awareness of the
>>>>>> transition of the product and project to Apache?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know 1) how long it will take to actually get this
>>>>>> transitioned, and 2) how hard it is to update the Oracle-hosted
>> sites,
>>>>>> but I think it would be really useful to have a few blurbs about the
>>>>>> future plans of Apache OpenOffice get put on the existing
>>>>>> OpenOffice.org site sooner rather than later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The blog feed on the homepage is nice, but not enough.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or is this too much for the moment?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Shane
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "If you can keep your head when all others around you
> are losing theirs - maybe you don't fully understand
> the situation!"
> -- Unknown
Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 5:06 AM, Graham Lauder <yo...@openoffice.org>wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:58:44 Andrew Rist wrote:
> > On 8/3/2011 2:27 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>
> wrote:
> > >> Do you mean this?
> > >>
> > >> http://www.openoffic.org
> > >> http://www.openoffic.org/news
> > >>
> > >> Or which landing pages do you have in mind?
> > >
> > > An idea: is there any easy way to get it into the header, so it is on
> > > every page? Something like "News: Apache OpenOffice.org!" with a
> > > link, perhaps to a new blog post. We could first write a blog post,
> > > specifically reaching out to OOo community members and telling them
> > > how they can get involved. Then, once that is posted, get that link
> > > out broadly, via the OOo website, wiki, mailing lists, forums,
> > > Facebook page, Twitter, etc.
> >
> > +1
> > I will take care of updating OOo site when we are ready
> > Andrew
> >
> > > It might make sense to wait until we first do the source migration and
> > > have Bugzilla, the wikis and forums migrated. But right around then
> > > would be a good time to put out the word.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Rob
>
>
> We should probably be looking at a press release as well as part of that.
> We can use the announce@ list simultaneously, the majority of subscribers
> of
> which, are our target Audience. If people are subscribed to that list
> anything sent via that medium can't be considered spam.
>
Graham--
Are you talking about annoucements@openoffice.org? We had a small discussion
about this list a few weeks ago and Marcus pointed out that that list is
"moderated ". So...yes, we should definitely use this and hope whoever IS
the moderator jsut pushes the announcement through. I don't think we got an
answer on this. I'll make some contacts and see what I can determine.
> Releases should go just to the tech press to remind them that the project
> is
> alive and kicking, wider than that is probably not necessary at this stage.
>
> Next press release after that should be to announce the "Non Apache"
> release
> if there is going to be one (I've made my feelings on this release known
> but
> we'll see what the consensus is)
>
> In the past press releases were hacked about with on the private PR list or
> on
> occasion the also private MarCon list, for obvious reasons. Is there a
> policy
> for creating such marketing materials here at Apache.
>
> Cheers
> GL
>
>
>
> > >
> > >> Marcus
> > >>
> > >> Am 08/03/2011 09:29 PM, schrieb Shane Curcuru:
> > >>> (Taking the opportunity to Refactor a new thread on OpenOffice.org)
> > >>>
> > >>> Are there any short term plans to update the main landing pages of
> the
> > >>> existing OpenOffice.org website(s) to provide user awareness of the
> > >>> transition of the product and project to Apache?
> > >>>
> > >>> I don't know 1) how long it will take to actually get this
> > >>> transitioned, and 2) how hard it is to update the Oracle-hosted
> sites,
> > >>> but I think it would be really useful to have a few blurbs about the
> > >>> future plans of Apache OpenOffice get put on the existing
> > >>> OpenOffice.org site sooner rather than later.
> > >>>
> > >>> The blog feed on the homepage is nice, but not enough.
> > >>>
> > >>> Or is this too much for the moment?
> > >>>
> > >>> - Shane
>
--
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK
"If you can keep your head when all others around you
are losing theirs - maybe you don't fully understand
the situation!"
-- Unknown
Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by Graham Lauder <yo...@openoffice.org>.
On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:58:44 Andrew Rist wrote:
> On 8/3/2011 2:27 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
> >> Do you mean this?
> >>
> >> http://www.openoffic.org
> >> http://www.openoffic.org/news
> >>
> >> Or which landing pages do you have in mind?
> >
> > An idea: is there any easy way to get it into the header, so it is on
> > every page? Something like "News: Apache OpenOffice.org!" with a
> > link, perhaps to a new blog post. We could first write a blog post,
> > specifically reaching out to OOo community members and telling them
> > how they can get involved. Then, once that is posted, get that link
> > out broadly, via the OOo website, wiki, mailing lists, forums,
> > Facebook page, Twitter, etc.
>
> +1
> I will take care of updating OOo site when we are ready
> Andrew
>
> > It might make sense to wait until we first do the source migration and
> > have Bugzilla, the wikis and forums migrated. But right around then
> > would be a good time to put out the word.
> >
> >
> > -Rob
We should probably be looking at a press release as well as part of that.
We can use the announce@ list simultaneously, the majority of subscribers of
which, are our target Audience. If people are subscribed to that list
anything sent via that medium can't be considered spam.
Releases should go just to the tech press to remind them that the project is
alive and kicking, wider than that is probably not necessary at this stage.
Next press release after that should be to announce the "Non Apache" release
if there is going to be one (I've made my feelings on this release known but
we'll see what the consensus is)
In the past press releases were hacked about with on the private PR list or on
occasion the also private MarCon list, for obvious reasons. Is there a policy
for creating such marketing materials here at Apache.
Cheers
GL
> >
> >> Marcus
> >>
> >> Am 08/03/2011 09:29 PM, schrieb Shane Curcuru:
> >>> (Taking the opportunity to Refactor a new thread on OpenOffice.org)
> >>>
> >>> Are there any short term plans to update the main landing pages of the
> >>> existing OpenOffice.org website(s) to provide user awareness of the
> >>> transition of the product and project to Apache?
> >>>
> >>> I don't know 1) how long it will take to actually get this
> >>> transitioned, and 2) how hard it is to update the Oracle-hosted sites,
> >>> but I think it would be really useful to have a few blurbs about the
> >>> future plans of Apache OpenOffice get put on the existing
> >>> OpenOffice.org site sooner rather than later.
> >>>
> >>> The blog feed on the homepage is nice, but not enough.
> >>>
> >>> Or is this too much for the moment?
> >>>
> >>> - Shane
Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 08/03/2011 11:58 PM, schrieb Andrew Rist:
>
>
> On 8/3/2011 2:27 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
>>> Do you mean this?
>>>
>>> http://www.openoffic.org
>>> http://www.openoffic.org/news
>>>
>>> Or which landing pages do you have in mind?
>>>
>> An idea: is there any easy way to get it into the header, so it is on
>> every page? Something like "News: Apache OpenOffice.org!" with a
>> link, perhaps to a new blog post. We could first write a blog post,
>> specifically reaching out to OOo community members and telling them
>> how they can get involved. Then, once that is posted, get that link
>> out broadly, via the OOo website, wiki, mailing lists, forums,
>> Facebook page, Twitter, etc.
> +1
> I will take care of updating OOo site when we are ready
> Andrew
This would be great, thanks for this. :-)
Marcus
>> It might make sense to wait until we first do the source migration and
>> have Bugzilla, the wikis and forums migrated. But right around then
>> would be a good time to put out the word.
>
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 08/03/2011 09:29 PM, schrieb Shane Curcuru:
>>>> (Taking the opportunity to Refactor a new thread on OpenOffice.org)
>>>>
>>>> Are there any short term plans to update the main landing pages of the
>>>> existing OpenOffice.org website(s) to provide user awareness of the
>>>> transition of the product and project to Apache?
>>>>
>>>> I don't know 1) how long it will take to actually get this
>>>> transitioned,
>>>> and 2) how hard it is to update the Oracle-hosted sites, but I think it
>>>> would be really useful to have a few blurbs about the future plans of
>>>> Apache OpenOffice get put on the existing OpenOffice.org site sooner
>>>> rather than later.
>>>>
>>>> The blog feed on the homepage is nice, but not enough.
>>>>
>>>> Or is this too much for the moment?
>>>>
>>>> - Shane
Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by Andrew Rist <an...@oracle.com>.
On 8/3/2011 2:27 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
>> Do you mean this?
>>
>> http://www.openoffic.org
>> http://www.openoffic.org/news
>>
>> Or which landing pages do you have in mind?
>>
> An idea: is there any easy way to get it into the header, so it is on
> every page? Something like "News: Apache OpenOffice.org!" with a
> link, perhaps to a new blog post. We could first write a blog post,
> specifically reaching out to OOo community members and telling them
> how they can get involved. Then, once that is posted, get that link
> out broadly, via the OOo website, wiki, mailing lists, forums,
> Facebook page, Twitter, etc.
+1
I will take care of updating OOo site when we are ready
Andrew
>
> It might make sense to wait until we first do the source migration and
> have Bugzilla, the wikis and forums migrated. But right around then
> would be a good time to put out the word.
>
> -Rob
>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 08/03/2011 09:29 PM, schrieb Shane Curcuru:
>>> (Taking the opportunity to Refactor a new thread on OpenOffice.org)
>>>
>>> Are there any short term plans to update the main landing pages of the
>>> existing OpenOffice.org website(s) to provide user awareness of the
>>> transition of the product and project to Apache?
>>>
>>> I don't know 1) how long it will take to actually get this transitioned,
>>> and 2) how hard it is to update the Oracle-hosted sites, but I think it
>>> would be really useful to have a few blurbs about the future plans of
>>> Apache OpenOffice get put on the existing OpenOffice.org site sooner
>>> rather than later.
>>>
>>> The blog feed on the homepage is nice, but not enough.
>>>
>>> Or is this too much for the moment?
>>>
>>> - Shane
Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On 08/03/2011 02:52 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 08/03/2011 11:41 PM, schrieb Raphael Bircher:
>> Am 03.08.11 23:27, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Do you mean this?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.openoffic.org
>>>> http://www.openoffic.org/news
>>>>
>>>> Or which landing pages do you have in mind?
>>>>
>>> An idea: is there any easy way to get it into the header, so it is on
>>> every page?
>> No, thats not easy, only a few people from Oracle has access to this
>> area. As I know, the moast of the parts are writen by ause wich is not
>> here.
>
> AFAIK the part is in Kenai itself and I've no access to it.
>
> Marcus
yep! you are correct...maybe Stefan or ??? certainly not I.
>
>>> Something like "News: Apache OpenOffice.org!" with a
>>> link, perhaps to a new blog post. We could first write a blog post,
>>> specifically reaching out to OOo community members and telling them
>>> how they can get involved. Then, once that is posted, get that link
>>> out broadly, via the OOo website, wiki, mailing lists, forums,
>>> Facebook page, Twitter, etc.
>>>
>>> It might make sense to wait until we first do the source migration and
>>> have Bugzilla, the wikis and forums migrated. But right around then
>>> would be a good time to put out the word.
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK
"If you can keep your head when all others around you
are losing theirs - maybe you don't fully understand
the situation!"
-- Unknown
Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by Raphael Bircher <r....@gmx.ch>.
Am 03.08.11 23:52, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
> Am 08/03/2011 11:41 PM, schrieb Raphael Bircher:
>> Am 03.08.11 23:27, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Do you mean this?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.openoffic.org
>>>> http://www.openoffic.org/news
>>>>
>>>> Or which landing pages do you have in mind?
>>>>
>>> An idea: is there any easy way to get it into the header, so it is on
>>> every page?
>> No, thats not easy, only a few people from Oracle has access to this
>> area. As I know, the moast of the parts are writen by ause wich is not
>> here.
>
> AFAIK the part is in Kenai itself and I've no access to it.
Exactly but same of Hamburg had access to it. that I know from the Kenai
migration, How long there Accounts exist and if they are willing to due
samething like that, I don't know.
--
My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/
Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 08/03/2011 11:41 PM, schrieb Raphael Bircher:
> Am 03.08.11 23:27, schrieb Rob Weir:
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
>>> Do you mean this?
>>>
>>> http://www.openoffic.org
>>> http://www.openoffic.org/news
>>>
>>> Or which landing pages do you have in mind?
>>>
>> An idea: is there any easy way to get it into the header, so it is on
>> every page?
> No, thats not easy, only a few people from Oracle has access to this
> area. As I know, the moast of the parts are writen by ause wich is not
> here.
AFAIK the part is in Kenai itself and I've no access to it.
Marcus
>> Something like "News: Apache OpenOffice.org!" with a
>> link, perhaps to a new blog post. We could first write a blog post,
>> specifically reaching out to OOo community members and telling them
>> how they can get involved. Then, once that is posted, get that link
>> out broadly, via the OOo website, wiki, mailing lists, forums,
>> Facebook page, Twitter, etc.
>>
>> It might make sense to wait until we first do the source migration and
>> have Bugzilla, the wikis and forums migrated. But right around then
>> would be a good time to put out the word.
Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by Raphael Bircher <r....@gmx.ch>.
Am 03.08.11 23:27, schrieb Rob Weir:
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
>> Do you mean this?
>>
>> http://www.openoffic.org
>> http://www.openoffic.org/news
>>
>> Or which landing pages do you have in mind?
>>
> An idea: is there any easy way to get it into the header, so it is on
> every page?
No, thats not easy, only a few people from Oracle has access to this
area. As I know, the moast of the parts are writen by ause wich is not here.
> Something like "News: Apache OpenOffice.org!" with a
> link, perhaps to a new blog post. We could first write a blog post,
> specifically reaching out to OOo community members and telling them
> how they can get involved. Then, once that is posted, get that link
> out broadly, via the OOo website, wiki, mailing lists, forums,
> Facebook page, Twitter, etc.
>
> It might make sense to wait until we first do the source migration and
> have Bugzilla, the wikis and forums migrated. But right around then
> would be a good time to put out the word.
>
--
My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/
Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by Rob Weir <ap...@robweir.com>.
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
> Do you mean this?
>
> http://www.openoffic.org
> http://www.openoffic.org/news
>
> Or which landing pages do you have in mind?
>
An idea: is there any easy way to get it into the header, so it is on
every page? Something like "News: Apache OpenOffice.org!" with a
link, perhaps to a new blog post. We could first write a blog post,
specifically reaching out to OOo community members and telling them
how they can get involved. Then, once that is posted, get that link
out broadly, via the OOo website, wiki, mailing lists, forums,
Facebook page, Twitter, etc.
It might make sense to wait until we first do the source migration and
have Bugzilla, the wikis and forums migrated. But right around then
would be a good time to put out the word.
-Rob
> Marcus
>
>
>
> Am 08/03/2011 09:29 PM, schrieb Shane Curcuru:
>>
>> (Taking the opportunity to Refactor a new thread on OpenOffice.org)
>>
>> Are there any short term plans to update the main landing pages of the
>> existing OpenOffice.org website(s) to provide user awareness of the
>> transition of the product and project to Apache?
>>
>> I don't know 1) how long it will take to actually get this transitioned,
>> and 2) how hard it is to update the Oracle-hosted sites, but I think it
>> would be really useful to have a few blurbs about the future plans of
>> Apache OpenOffice get put on the existing OpenOffice.org site sooner
>> rather than later.
>>
>> The blog feed on the homepage is nice, but not enough.
>>
>> Or is this too much for the moment?
>>
>> - Shane
>
Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Aug 3, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Do you mean this?
>
> http://www.openoffic.org
> http://www.openoffic.org/news
>
> Or which landing pages do you have in mind?
According to the svn from Kenai - Kay was the one who made the change to add the latest news on the main page.
What do we want to say?
Regards,
Dave
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
> Am 08/03/2011 09:29 PM, schrieb Shane Curcuru:
>> (Taking the opportunity to Refactor a new thread on OpenOffice.org)
>>
>> Are there any short term plans to update the main landing pages of the
>> existing OpenOffice.org website(s) to provide user awareness of the
>> transition of the product and project to Apache?
>>
>> I don't know 1) how long it will take to actually get this transitioned,
>> and 2) how hard it is to update the Oracle-hosted sites, but I think it
>> would be really useful to have a few blurbs about the future plans of
>> Apache OpenOffice get put on the existing OpenOffice.org site sooner
>> rather than later.
>>
>> The blog feed on the homepage is nice, but not enough.
>>
>> Or is this too much for the moment?
>>
>> - Shane
Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Do you mean this?
http://www.openoffic.org
http://www.openoffic.org/news
Or which landing pages do you have in mind?
Marcus
Am 08/03/2011 09:29 PM, schrieb Shane Curcuru:
> (Taking the opportunity to Refactor a new thread on OpenOffice.org)
>
> Are there any short term plans to update the main landing pages of the
> existing OpenOffice.org website(s) to provide user awareness of the
> transition of the product and project to Apache?
>
> I don't know 1) how long it will take to actually get this transitioned,
> and 2) how hard it is to update the Oracle-hosted sites, but I think it
> would be really useful to have a few blurbs about the future plans of
> Apache OpenOffice get put on the existing OpenOffice.org site sooner
> rather than later.
>
> The blog feed on the homepage is nice, but not enough.
>
> Or is this too much for the moment?
>
> - Shane