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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Ryan Coleman <ry...@cwis.biz> on 2016/08/04 21:53:18 UTC
Childish actions of Harald Reindl
Sigh.
Some people are always going to be children
Can we please have him removed from the mailing list so that every time I send a reply to the list they are not immediately bounced back to me by his server?
> Begin forwarded message:
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> From: MAILER-DAEMON@services.d3photography.com (Mail Delivery System)
> Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
> Date: August 4, 2016 at 4:42:35 PM CDT
> To: ryan.coleman@cwis.biz
>
> This is the mail system at host services.d3photography.com.
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> <h....@thelounge.net>: host mail-gw.thelounge.net[91.118.73.19] said: 554
> 5.7.1 <ry...@cwis.biz>: Sender address rejected: Creep Away - You
> are asking to not get off-list mails so just do not start them at your own
> if you can not stand the response, please forward this to YOUR tech-support
> first, time: Aug 04 23:42:18, client: 50.93.253.222, server:
> mail-gw.thelounge.net, contact: <po...@thelounge.net> +4315953999 (in
> reply to RCPT TO command)
> Reporting-MTA: dns; services.d3photography.com
> X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 094D3402D0
> X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; ryan.coleman@cwis.biz
> Arrival-Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 16:41:59 -0500 (CDT)
>
> Final-Recipient: rfc822; h.reindl@thelounge.net
> Action: failed
> Status: 5.7.1
> Remote-MTA: dns; mail-gw.thelounge.net
> Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554 5.7.1 <ry...@cwis.biz>: Sender address
> rejected: Creep Away - You are asking to not get off-list mails so just do
> not start them at your own if you can not stand the response, please
> forward this to YOUR tech-support first, time: Aug 04 23:42:18, client:
> 50.93.253.222, server: mail-gw.thelounge.net, contact:
> <po...@thelounge.net> +4315953999
>
> From: Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>
> Subject: Auto-Forwarder -> Reject from now on
> Date: August 4, 2016 at 4:40:22 PM CDT
> To: ryan.coleman@cwis.biz
> Resent-From: Ryan Coleman <ry...@cwis.biz>
> Resent-To: Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>
>
>
>
> --Pj59V6CtWjUrMHf0gdcMp85rN8LMrnoxQ
> Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
> boundary=j9P2bmcUmBPG16hQ1EcWPOsUpvqshjG8V
>
>
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> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset=utf-8;
> format=flowed
>
> STOP THAT BULLSHIT - NOBODY IS TALKING TO YOU BUT YOU ARE SPAMMING
>
> /etc/postfix/blacklist_sender_regex.cf:
> /^ryan\.coleman@cwis\.biz$/ REJECT Creep Away - You are asking to not=20
> get off-list mails so just do not start them at your own if you can not=20
> stand the response
>
> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> Betreff: Re: why is this maillist here marked as
> Weitersenden-Datum: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 16:01:49 -0500
> Weitersenden-Von: Ryan Coleman <ry...@cwis.biz>
> Weitersenden-An: Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>
> Datum: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 23:00:47 +0200
> Von: Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>
> An: users@spamassassin.apache.org
>
> Am 04.08.2016 um 22:37 schrieb Benny Pedersen:
>> precedence bulk ?
>>
>> it should imho really be precedence list
>
> because it don't matter and the main point of that header is to supress=3D=
> 20
> autoresponders answering to list mail which works fine with both
>
>
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>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: MAILER-DAEMON@services.d3photography.com (Mail Delivery System)
> Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
> Date: August 4, 2016 at 4:42:34 PM CDT
> To: ryan.coleman@cwis.biz
>
> This is the mail system at host services.d3photography.com.
>
> I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
> be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
>
> For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
>
> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
> delete your own text from the attached returned message.
>
> The mail system
>
> <h....@thelounge.net>: host mail-gw.thelounge.net[91.118.73.19] said: 554
> 5.7.1 <ry...@cwis.biz>: Sender address rejected: Creep Away - You
> are asking to not get off-list mails so just do not start them at your own
> if you can not stand the response, please forward this to YOUR tech-support
> first, time: Aug 04 23:42:17, client: 50.93.253.222, server:
> mail-gw.thelounge.net, contact: <po...@thelounge.net> +4315953999 (in
> reply to RCPT TO command)
> Reporting-MTA: dns; services.d3photography.com
> X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 87549402D7
> X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; ryan.coleman@cwis.biz
> Arrival-Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 16:41:57 -0500 (CDT)
>
> Final-Recipient: rfc822; h.reindl@thelounge.net
> Action: failed
> Status: 5.7.1
> Remote-MTA: dns; mail-gw.thelounge.net
> Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554 5.7.1 <ry...@cwis.biz>: Sender address
> rejected: Creep Away - You are asking to not get off-list mails so just do
> not start them at your own if you can not stand the response, please
> forward this to YOUR tech-support first, time: Aug 04 23:42:17, client:
> 50.93.253.222, server: mail-gw.thelounge.net, contact:
> <po...@thelounge.net> +4315953999
>
> From: Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>
> Subject: Auto-Forwarder -> Reject from now on
> Date: August 4, 2016 at 4:40:22 PM CDT
> To: ryan.coleman@cwis.biz
> Resent-From: Ryan Coleman <ry...@cwis.biz>
> Resent-To: Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>
>
>
>
> --Pj59V6CtWjUrMHf0gdcMp85rN8LMrnoxQ
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> boundary=j9P2bmcUmBPG16hQ1EcWPOsUpvqshjG8V
>
>
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> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset=utf-8;
> format=flowed
>
> STOP THAT BULLSHIT - NOBODY IS TALKING TO YOU BUT YOU ARE SPAMMING
>
> /etc/postfix/blacklist_sender_regex.cf:
> /^ryan\.coleman@cwis\.biz$/ REJECT Creep Away - You are asking to not=20
> get off-list mails so just do not start them at your own if you can not=20
> stand the response
>
> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> Betreff: Re: why is this maillist here marked as
> Weitersenden-Datum: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 16:01:49 -0500
> Weitersenden-Von: Ryan Coleman <ry...@cwis.biz>
> Weitersenden-An: Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>
> Datum: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 23:00:47 +0200
> Von: Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>
> An: users@spamassassin.apache.org
>
> Am 04.08.2016 um 22:37 schrieb Benny Pedersen:
>> precedence bulk ?
>>
>> it should imho really be precedence list
>
> because it don't matter and the main point of that header is to supress=3D=
> 20
> autoresponders answering to list mail which works fine with both
>
>
> --j9P2bmcUmBPG16hQ1EcWPOsUpvqshjG8V--
>
> --Pj59V6CtWjUrMHf0gdcMp85rN8LMrnoxQ
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>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: MAILER-DAEMON@services.d3photography.com (Mail Delivery System)
> Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
> Date: August 4, 2016 at 4:50:26 PM CDT
> To: ryan.coleman@cwis.biz
>
> This is the mail system at host services.d3photography.com.
>
> I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
> be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
>
> For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
>
> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
> delete your own text from the attached returned message.
>
> The mail system
>
> <h....@thelounge.net>: host mail-gw.thelounge.net[91.118.73.19] said: 554
> 5.7.1 <ry...@cwis.biz>: Sender address rejected: Creep Away - You
> are asking to not get off-list mails so just do not start them at your own
> if you can not stand the response, please forward this to YOUR tech-support
> first, time: Aug 04 23:50:09, client: 50.93.253.222, server:
> mail-gw.thelounge.net, contact: <po...@thelounge.net> +4315953999 (in
> reply to RCPT TO command)
> Reporting-MTA: dns; services.d3photography.com
> X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 5DFA1402D0
> X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; ryan.coleman@cwis.biz
> Arrival-Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 16:49:49 -0500 (CDT)
>
> Final-Recipient: rfc822; h.reindl@thelounge.net
> Action: failed
> Status: 5.7.1
> Remote-MTA: dns; mail-gw.thelounge.net
> Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554 5.7.1 <ry...@cwis.biz>: Sender address
> rejected: Creep Away - You are asking to not get off-list mails so just do
> not start them at your own if you can not stand the response, please
> forward this to YOUR tech-support first, time: Aug 04 23:50:09, client:
> 50.93.253.222, server: mail-gw.thelounge.net, contact:
> <po...@thelounge.net> +4315953999
>
> From: Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>
> Subject: Re: detect if html attachment without plugin
> Date: August 4, 2016 at 4:48:06 PM CDT
> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Resent-From: Ryan Coleman <ry...@cwis.biz>
> Resent-To: Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>
>
>
>
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> Am 04.08.2016 um 18:41 schrieb Reindl Harald:
>>
>> Am 04.08.2016 um 18:38 schrieb Ryan Coleman:
>>>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 9:04 AM, Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> may is suggest that you sue your drug dealer and leave us in peace
>>>> until you found a better one - and no - that is not an attack, i just=
>
>>>> try to find a logical reason for what you are posting all the time
>>>
>>> DUDE. STOP
>>
>> *you* are the one who has to instantaneously stop quote without context=
> !
>
> well, and to speak in the words of maillogs - the ratio inbound/outbound =
>
> says it all
>
> Aug 3 18:08:08 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4HzX07WFzXNB:=20
> from=3D<ry...@cwis.biz>, size=3D15688, nrcpt=3D2 (queue active)
> Aug 3 18:11:00 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4J2r1GmbzXNB:=20
> from=3D<ry...@cwis.biz>, size=3D16448, nrcpt=3D2 (queue active)
> Aug 3 18:11:09 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4J3122TvzXNB:=20
> from=3D<ry...@cwis.biz>, size=3D14414, nrcpt=3D2 (queue active)
> Aug 3 18:11:22 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4J3G5SGzzXNB:=20
> from=3D<ry...@cwis.biz>, size=3D14414, nrcpt=3D2 (queue active)
> Aug 3 18:11:27 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4J3M0Q1YzXNB:=20
> from=3D<ry...@cwis.biz>, size=3D13506, nrcpt=3D2 (queue active)
> Aug 3 18:11:36 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4J3X1HVbzXNB:=20
> from=3D<ry...@cwis.biz>, size=3D11428, nrcpt=3D2 (queue active)
> Aug 3 18:11:37 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4J3Y4B1BzXNB:=20
> from=3D<ry...@cwis.biz>, size=3D10000, nrcpt=3D2 (queue active)
> Aug 3 18:11:44 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4J3h0pjszXNB:=20
> from=3D<ry...@cwis.biz>, size=3D9322, nrcpt=3D2 (queue active)
> Aug 3 18:11:52 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4J3r2gh4zXNB:=20
> from=3D<ry...@cwis.biz>, size=3D7981, nrcpt=3D2 (queue active)
> Aug 3 18:11:54 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4J3t2K92zXNB:=20
> from=3D<ry...@cwis.biz>, size=3D6348, nrcpt=3D2 (queue active)
> Aug 3 18:11:59 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4J3z3sn7zXNB:=20
> from=3D<ry...@cwis.biz>, size=3D4748, nrcpt=3D2 (queue active)
> Aug 3 18:18:45 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4JCn550CzXNF:=20
> from=3D<ry...@cwis.biz>, size=3D4238, nrcpt=3D1 (queue active)
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> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: MAILER-DAEMON@services.d3photography.com (Mail Delivery System)
> Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
> Date: August 4, 2016 at 4:50:26 PM CDT
> To: ryan.coleman@cwis.biz
>
> This is the mail system at host services.d3photography.com.
>
> I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
> be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
>
> For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
>
> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
> delete your own text from the attached returned message.
>
> The mail system
>
> <h....@thelounge.net>: host mail-gw.thelounge.net[91.118.73.19] said: 554
> 5.7.1 <ry...@cwis.biz>: Sender address rejected: Creep Away - You
> are asking to not get off-list mails so just do not start them at your own
> if you can not stand the response, please forward this to YOUR tech-support
> first, time: Aug 04 23:50:09, client: 50.93.253.222, server:
> mail-gw.thelounge.net, contact: <po...@thelounge.net> +4315953999 (in
> reply to RCPT TO command)
> Reporting-MTA: dns; services.d3photography.com
> X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 59A37402D7
> X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; ryan.coleman@cwis.biz
> Arrival-Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 16:49:49 -0500 (CDT)
>
> Final-Recipient: rfc822; h.reindl@thelounge.net
> Action: failed
> Status: 5.7.1
> Remote-MTA: dns; mail-gw.thelounge.net
> Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554 5.7.1 <ry...@cwis.biz>: Sender address
> rejected: Creep Away - You are asking to not get off-list mails so just do
> not start them at your own if you can not stand the response, please
> forward this to YOUR tech-support first, time: Aug 04 23:50:09, client:
> 50.93.253.222, server: mail-gw.thelounge.net, contact:
> <po...@thelounge.net> +4315953999
>
> From: Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>
> Subject: Re: detect if html attachment without plugin
> Date: August 4, 2016 at 4:48:06 PM CDT
> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Resent-From: Ryan Coleman <ry...@cwis.biz>
> Resent-To: Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>
>
>
>
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>
> Am 04.08.2016 um 18:41 schrieb Reindl Harald:
>>
>> Am 04.08.2016 um 18:38 schrieb Ryan Coleman:
>>>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 9:04 AM, Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> may is suggest that you sue your drug dealer and leave us in peace
>>>> until you found a better one - and no - that is not an attack, i just=
>
>>>> try to find a logical reason for what you are posting all the time
>>>
>>> DUDE. STOP
>>
>> *you* are the one who has to instantaneously stop quote without context=
> !
>
> well, and to speak in the words of maillogs - the ratio inbound/outbound =
>
> says it all
>
> Aug 3 18:08:08 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4HzX07WFzXNB:=20
> from=3D<ry...@cwis.biz>, size=3D15688, nrcpt=3D2 (queue active)
> Aug 3 18:11:00 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4J2r1GmbzXNB:=20
> from=3D<ry...@cwis.biz>, size=3D16448, nrcpt=3D2 (queue active)
> Aug 3 18:11:09 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4J3122TvzXNB:=20
> from=3D<ry...@cwis.biz>, size=3D14414, nrcpt=3D2 (queue active)
> Aug 3 18:11:22 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4J3G5SGzzXNB:=20
> from=3D<ry...@cwis.biz>, size=3D14414, nrcpt=3D2 (queue active)
> Aug 3 18:11:27 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4J3M0Q1YzXNB:=20
> from=3D<ry...@cwis.biz>, size=3D13506, nrcpt=3D2 (queue active)
> Aug 3 18:11:36 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4J3X1HVbzXNB:=20
> from=3D<ry...@cwis.biz>, size=3D11428, nrcpt=3D2 (queue active)
> Aug 3 18:11:37 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4J3Y4B1BzXNB:=20
> from=3D<ry...@cwis.biz>, size=3D10000, nrcpt=3D2 (queue active)
> Aug 3 18:11:44 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4J3h0pjszXNB:=20
> from=3D<ry...@cwis.biz>, size=3D9322, nrcpt=3D2 (queue active)
> Aug 3 18:11:52 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4J3r2gh4zXNB:=20
> from=3D<ry...@cwis.biz>, size=3D7981, nrcpt=3D2 (queue active)
> Aug 3 18:11:54 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4J3t2K92zXNB:=20
> from=3D<ry...@cwis.biz>, size=3D6348, nrcpt=3D2 (queue active)
> Aug 3 18:11:59 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4J3z3sn7zXNB:=20
> from=3D<ry...@cwis.biz>, size=3D4748, nrcpt=3D2 (queue active)
> Aug 3 18:18:45 mail postfix/qmgr[1190]: 3s4JCn550CzXNF:=20
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Re: Technical solution (was Re: Childish actions of Harald Reindl)
Posted by RW <rw...@googlemail.com>.
On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 15:14:47 +0200
Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 05.08.2016 um 15:10 schrieb Dianne Skoll:
> > On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 16:53:18 -0500
> > Ryan Coleman <ry...@cwis.biz> wrote:
> >
> >> Can we please have him removed from the mailing list so that every
> >> time I send a reply to the list they are not immediately bounced
> >> back to me by his server?
> >
> > I also don't like people who Cc me and a list that I'm on. Reindl
> > is just a little... strident about it, is all.
>
> you don't get it?
>
> it is not about CC of list mails, it's about that he started to setup
> some tool which *bounces back* every mail with a from-header of me
> *directly* to me, even list-repsonses to other people and to top it
> even a mysql-list message from 2015 he did read once again
I use a separate address for lists and filter everything I want to see
into an appropriate imap folder. Anything that doesn't hit one of these
filters ends-up in a default folder, which I don't need to check.
I've been doing this since a few days after subscribing to my first
list. It never ceases to amaze me that people subscribe with their
general-purpose addresses.
Re: Technical solution (was Re: Childish actions of Harald Reindl)
Posted by Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>.
Am 05.08.2016 um 15:10 schrieb Dianne Skoll:
> On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 16:53:18 -0500
> Ryan Coleman <ry...@cwis.biz> wrote:
>
>> Can we please have him removed from the mailing list so that every
>> time I send a reply to the list they are not immediately bounced back
>> to me by his server?
>
> I also don't like people who Cc me and a list that I'm on. Reindl
> is just a little... strident about it, is all.
you don't get it?
it is not about CC of list mails, it's about that he started to setup
some tool which *bounces back* every mail with a from-header of me
*directly* to me, even list-repsonses to other people and to top it even
a mysql-list message from 2015 he did read once again
and *than* this guy comes up with the complaint above after i wrote him
dozens of times he should stop this bullshit where he even saw the need
to forward that complaints to my boss?
this guy is just mentally ill and don't get cause and effect
Technical solution (was Re: Childish actions of Harald Reindl)
Posted by Dianne Skoll <df...@roaringpenguin.com>.
On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 16:53:18 -0500
Ryan Coleman <ry...@cwis.biz> wrote:
> Can we please have him removed from the mailing list so that every
> time I send a reply to the list they are not immediately bounced back
> to me by his server?
I also don't like people who Cc me and a list that I'm on. Reindl
is just a little... strident about it, is all.
Nevertheless, there is a technical solution to the Reindl problem, which
I have deployed with great success:
http://search.cpan.org/~rjbs/Email-Filter-1.034/lib/Email/Filter.pm
http://search.cpan.org/~dskoll/Mail-ThreadKiller-1.0.1/lib/Mail/ThreadKiller.pm
The combo of those sends any message from a problematic poster to
/dev/null, as well as all followups... in fact, the entire message tree
that results from the original posting.
What you don't see can't raise your blood pressure.
Regards,
Dianne.
Re: Childish actions of Harald Reindl
Posted by Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>.
Am 04.08.2016 um 23:53 schrieb Ryan Coleman:
> Sigh.
>
> Some people are always going to be children
>
> Can we please have him removed from the mailing list so that every time
> I send a reply to the list they are not immediately bounced back to me
> by his server?
THE RULE BELOW IS ABOUT ENVELOPE SENDERS and regulary list-email *do
not* have your address as envelope sender - what you are showing below
is rejcted *offlist* mail
the only thing which is bounced back are YOUR OFFLIST MAILS because
*you* auto-bounce back *any mail* of me for days now even if it is a
ordianry list mail not targeted to you in any context
and if you would know hat you are talking about you would know the
differene from-header / enevlope sender
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> *From: *MAILER-DAEMON@services.d3photography.com
>> <ma...@services.d3photography.com> (Mail Delivery System)
>> *Subject: **Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender*
>> *Date: *August 4, 2016 at 4:42:35 PM CDT
>> *To: *ryan.coleman@cwis.biz <ma...@cwis.biz>
>>
>> This is the mail system at host services.d3photography.com
>> <http://services.d3photography.com>.
>>
>> I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
>> be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
>>
>> For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
>>
>> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
>> delete your own text from the attached returned message.
>>
>> The mail system
>>
>> <h.reindl@thelounge.net <ma...@thelounge.net>>: host
>> mail-gw.thelounge.net <http://mail-gw.thelounge.net>[91.118.73.19]
>> said: 554
>> 5.7.1 <ryan.coleman@cwis.biz <ma...@cwis.biz>>:
>> Sender address rejected: Creep Away - You
>> are asking to not get off-list mails so just do not start them at
>> your own
>> if you can not stand the response
Re: Childish actions of Harald Reindl
Posted by Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>.
Am 05.08.2016 um 01:54 schrieb Benny Pedersen:
> On 2016-08-04 23:53, Ryan Coleman wrote:
>> Can we please have him removed from the mailing list so that every
>> time I send a reply to the list they are not immediately bounced back
>> to me by his server?
if that only would be true......
> yes that solves indeed all the good things he sometimes posting, we can
> not win always imho, but what works for me is create a autoreader in
> sieve to help me read his mails so i dont need to reply to him :=)
>
> he is right why do you cc him, keep the fun on maillist is more fun :=)
he don't CC me - he just created some crap which *resent* every single
mail with a from-header of mine - frankly even a mail from 2015 on a
different list - that said to the topic "childish games"
"everytime I send a reply to the list they are not immediately bounced
back to me by his server?" is just laughable (especially for someone who
is running a mailserver)
followed by quoting "This is the mail system at host
services.d3photography.com" in the said bounce which is (cwis.biz. 3600
IN MX 10 services.d3photography.com.) *his own* server as reaction of
*directly* try to deliver *junk* to mine and so it's pretty obvious who
should be removed from the list
*he should have been removed* from the list within the last 3 days for
*starting* writing offlist-mails, can't stand the repsonse and adding
Markowitz Sidney (a list-moderator) *twice* into that off-list
conversation, even after i removed him one time from this stupid game he
has not deserved to receive
Re: Childish actions of Harald Reindl
Posted by Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>.
Am 05.08.2016 um 16:27 schrieb Ian Zimmerman:
> On 2016-08-05 09:46 +0100, Martin wrote:
>
>> The biggest reason is the way this mailing list is set up, when you
>> click reply it replies to the poster not the list, this has always
>> been a bug bare of mine and something that probably should be
>> addressed.
>
> Then don't "click reply" but use a proper mail user agent (like mutt,
> but there are many others) that have a separate List Reply/Followup
> function.
>
> What "should be addressed" is the misconfigured mailing lists that mess
> with sender-supplied headers
what *really* should be adressed is people discussion forward and
backward completly off-topic stuff based on assumptions instead read the
damned first response making things clear seconds after the original post
* a fool did setup a auto-forward of read mail by from-header
* that fool got a reject on the destination server
* that fool came up with a complaint to the list
* that fool is clueless about how email works and all
the sample rejects he brought where *off-list* mails
* that fool itself should have been removed from this list
at the day he started a off-list mailing, did not stand
the response and added a list-admin as CC while it was
still off-list - doing so that whole thread would never
have existed nor would i have needed to set the reject
Re: Childish actions of Harald Reindl
Posted by Ian Zimmerman <it...@buug.org>.
On 2016-08-05 09:46 +0100, Martin wrote:
> The biggest reason is the way this mailing list is set up, when you
> click reply it replies to the poster not the list, this has always
> been a bug bare of mine and something that probably should be
> addressed.
Then don't "click reply" but use a proper mail user agent (like mutt,
but there are many others) that have a separate List Reply/Followup
function.
What "should be addressed" is the misconfigured mailing lists that mess
with sender-supplied headers.
--
Please *no* private Cc: on mailing lists and newsgroups
Why does the arrow on Hillary signs point to the right?
Re: Childish actions of Harald Reindl
Posted by Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>.
Am 05.08.2016 um 10:46 schrieb Martin:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Benny Pedersen [mailto:me@junc.eu]
>> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 12:55 AM
>> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Childish actions of Harald Reindl
>>
>> On 2016-08-04 23:53, Ryan Coleman wrote:
>>
>>> Can we please have him removed from the mailing list so that every
>>> time I send a reply to the list they are not immediately
>> bounced back
>>> to me by his server?
>>
>> yes that solves indeed all the good things he sometimes
>> posting, we can not win always imho, but what works for me is
>> create a autoreader in sieve to help me read his mails so i
>> dont need to reply to him :=)
>>
>> he is right why do you cc him, keep the fun on maillist is
>> more fun :=)
>
> The biggest reason is the way this mailing list is set up, when you click
> reply it replies to the poster not the list, this has always been a bug bare
> of mine and something that probably should be addressed.
besides that it's not the case because he spammed my by intention this
mailing-list as most others has a header "List-Post:
<ma...@spamassassin.apache.org>" and a sane client like
thunderbird offers a reply-list button in case it exists
a sane mail client could even change the behavior of the normal reply
button - no it is not a problem of the list and in this special case
it's by intention by the thread starter which the next time should learn
to read bounces and mail basics before starting such abusive threads
Re: Reply-To Munging Considered Harmful (was Re: Childish actions of
Harald Reindl)
Posted by Benny Pedersen <me...@junc.eu>.
On 2016-08-05 15:13, Dianne Skoll wrote:
> It'll be a cold day in Hell before MSFT acknowledges that header, I
> suppose.
ironical ios devices is not better
Re: Reply-To Munging Considered Harmful (was Re: Childish actions
of Harald Reindl)
Posted by Dianne Skoll <df...@roaringpenguin.com>.
On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 11:44:16 +0200
Bernd Petrovitsch <be...@petrovitsch.priv.at> wrote:
> Somewhat current "evolution" can do this without
> installing/configuring anything.
Claws Mail also. It seems to respect the List-Post: header.
It'll be a cold day in Hell before MSFT acknowledges that header, I
suppose.
Regards,
Dianne.
Reply-To Munging Considered Harmful (was Re: Childish actions of
Harald Reindl)
Posted by Bernd Petrovitsch <be...@petrovitsch.priv.at>.
On Fri, 2016-08-05 at 10:52 +0200, Benny Pedersen wrote:
> On 2016-08-05 10:46, Martin wrote:
>
> > reply it replies to the poster not the list, this has always been a
> > The biggest reason is the way this mailing list is set up, when you
> > click
Which is a good thing.
[...]
> roundcube here have a reply-all and reply-list, i cant see the
> problem�
> here
>
> thunderbird have a plugin for make maillist usage more simple, imho
> not�
> default yet there
Somewhat current "evolution" can do this without installing/configuring
anything.
Kind regards,
Bernd
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Re: Childish actions of Harald Reindl
Posted by Benny Pedersen <me...@junc.eu>.
On 2016-08-05 10:46, Martin wrote:
> The biggest reason is the way this mailing list is set up, when you
> click
> reply it replies to the poster not the list, this has always been a bug
> bare
> of mine and something that probably should be addressed.
roundcube here have a reply-all and reply-list, i cant see the problem
here
thunderbird have a plugin for make maillist usage more simple, imho not
default yet there
RE: Childish actions of Harald Reindl
Posted by Martin <ma...@ntlworld.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Benny Pedersen [mailto:me@junc.eu]
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 12:55 AM
> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Childish actions of Harald Reindl
>
> On 2016-08-04 23:53, Ryan Coleman wrote:
>
> > Can we please have him removed from the mailing list so that every
> > time I send a reply to the list they are not immediately
> bounced back
> > to me by his server?
>
> yes that solves indeed all the good things he sometimes
> posting, we can not win always imho, but what works for me is
> create a autoreader in sieve to help me read his mails so i
> dont need to reply to him :=)
>
> he is right why do you cc him, keep the fun on maillist is
> more fun :=)
>
>
The biggest reason is the way this mailing list is set up, when you click
reply it replies to the poster not the list, this has always been a bug bare
of mine and something that probably should be addressed.
Re: Childish actions of Harald Reindl
Posted by Benny Pedersen <me...@junc.eu>.
On 2016-08-04 23:53, Ryan Coleman wrote:
> Can we please have him removed from the mailing list so that every
> time I send a reply to the list they are not immediately bounced back
> to me by his server?
yes that solves indeed all the good things he sometimes posting, we can
not win always imho, but what works for me is create a autoreader in
sieve to help me read his mails so i dont need to reply to him :=)
he is right why do you cc him, keep the fun on maillist is more fun :=)