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Posted to users@cocoon.apache.org by Richard In Public <ed...@blueyonder.co.uk> on 2003/03/26 21:16:27 UTC

Cocoon-based Database Administration

Hi

I'm developing a fairly standard e-commerce site and need to provide my
client with a web-based interface to manage products, accounts, etc. in a
MySQL database.

Would using XForms/Actions to create these admin pages (about 10 tables in
total) be a good way to go or re-inventing the wheel?

CMS systems (with which I have no experience) seem to be oriented to editing
html content?  I'm only starting my research but would appreciate any advice
from those who have gone before me.

Many thanks,

Richard Hoberman


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Re: Cocoon-based Database Administration

Posted by Richard In Public <ed...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
I've been using Cocoon for a few months now and there is no way I'm going to
trade in this sort of power for a configurable e-commerce suite!  I'd feel
like I was painting myself into a corner rather than preparing myself for
the unexpected ;-)  Alos, this is my first serious engagement with an open
source project and I'm having to much fun to quit now.  I just want to make
sure that I'm not overlooking any obvious layers for this sort of thing.

Thanks for the input :-)

Richard


----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin W. Kingsbury" <co...@empolis-na.com>
To: <co...@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:34 PM
Subject: RE: Cocoon-based Database Administration


>
> Two separate problems here:
>
> 1. How to create a page which allows a user to do X (e.g. "create a new
> account")
> 2. How to manage the overall structure of pages which make up "the
> site."
>
> Cocoon gives you XSP for (1) and well, Cocoon, for (2), if you want to
> reinvent the wheel. IMHO if you are building a "basic e-commerce site"
> you should look at what is already available out there:
>
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=open+source+e-com
> merce+MySQL
>
> Cocoon is a powerful framework but if you haven't used it before it will
> take you some time to come up to speed. If you are just trying to bang
> out a small consulting job there are probably easier ways. YMMV.
>
> -cwk.
>
>
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Re: Cocoon-based Database Administration

Posted by Ryan Hoegg <rh...@isisnetworks.net>.
Colin W. Kingsbury wrote:

>Two separate problems here:
>
>1. How to create a page which allows a user to do X (e.g. "create a new
>account")
>
You could look into XSP or if you have 2.1 dev you could try XMLForms 
and create Actions

>2. How to manage the overall structure of pages which make up "the
>site."
>
You might consider Forrest for this sort of thing.  It's built on Cocoon.

>Cocoon gives you XSP for (1) and well, Cocoon, for (2), if you want to
>reinvent the wheel. IMHO if you are building a "basic e-commerce site"
>you should look at what is already available out there:
>
>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=open+source+e-com
>merce+MySQL
>
>Cocoon is a powerful framework but if you haven't used it before it will
>take you some time to come up to speed. If you are just trying to bang
>out a small consulting job there are probably easier ways. YMMV.
>
>-cwk.
>


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Re: Cocoon-based Database Administration

Posted by Upayavira <uv...@upaya.co.uk>.
> P.S.  I'm looking into Castor...

And then there's Hibernate, Torque and OJB. I've heard someone recommend 
starting with OJB...

And have you checked out the petshop example that's being worked on on cocoon-
dev? Try downloading the latest from CVS and try that out. May answer some of your 
questions (and probably give you more - such as should I really be using 2.1...).

Regards, Upayavira


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Re: Cocoon-based Database Administration

Posted by Richard In Public <ed...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
P.S.  I'm looking into Castor...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Colin W. Kingsbury" <co...@empolis-na.com>
To: <co...@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:34 PM
Subject: RE: Cocoon-based Database Administration


> 
> Two separate problems here:
> 
> 1. How to create a page which allows a user to do X (e.g. "create a new
> account")
> 2. How to manage the overall structure of pages which make up "the
> site."
> 
> Cocoon gives you XSP for (1) and well, Cocoon, for (2), if you want to
> reinvent the wheel. IMHO if you are building a "basic e-commerce site"
> you should look at what is already available out there:
> 
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=open+source+e-com
> merce+MySQL
> 
> Cocoon is a powerful framework but if you haven't used it before it will
> take you some time to come up to speed. If you are just trying to bang
> out a small consulting job there are probably easier ways. YMMV.
> 
> -cwk.
> 
> 
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Re: convert from asp online form to something under cocoon

Posted by Upayavira <uv...@upaya.co.uk>.
> I'm currently running a site under cocoon. The site needs to have
> several online forms of which the data needs now to be sent into an
> Access database. What way should I go from here? What are the
> possibilities to achieve this (if such goal is achievable)?

Can't really answer that bit.

> PS: Can I work with asp cdonts without cocoon ruining my code?

What do you mean here? CDONTS is a Windows system for sending emails. Cocoon 
does not have access to that at all. If what you're trying to do is send emails, you'll 
need to find a Cocoon way of sending mail. I've heard mention of a mail logicsheet.

Anyone know how to use Cocoon to send an email?

Regards, Upayavira


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convert from asp online form to something under cocoon

Posted by Frederic <ro...@tiscali.be>.
Hi all,

I'm currently running a site under cocoon. The site needs to have several
online forms of which the data needs now to be sent into an Access database.
What way should I go from here? What are the possibilities to achieve this
(if such goal is achievable)?

Many thx in advance!

Frederic


PS: Can I work with asp cdonts without cocoon ruining my code?


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RE: Cocoon-based Database Administration

Posted by "Colin W. Kingsbury" <co...@empolis-na.com>.
Two separate problems here:

1. How to create a page which allows a user to do X (e.g. "create a new
account")
2. How to manage the overall structure of pages which make up "the
site."

Cocoon gives you XSP for (1) and well, Cocoon, for (2), if you want to
reinvent the wheel. IMHO if you are building a "basic e-commerce site"
you should look at what is already available out there:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=open+source+e-com
merce+MySQL

Cocoon is a powerful framework but if you haven't used it before it will
take you some time to come up to speed. If you are just trying to bang
out a small consulting job there are probably easier ways. YMMV.

-cwk.


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