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extend-meta-model

-- Hi there


my goal is to extend the meta-model OWL2 (the structural specification of
OWL2) that exists on this link  https://www.w3.org/TR/2012/RE
C-owl2-syntax-20121211/. Otherwise, I search to extend the class diagrams
that exist on this link by new components such as ProbabilisticClass,
ProbabilisticIndividual . But I do not know if this is possible.

for example, in this diagramme, it is possible to add the concept
ProbabilisticClass which extends Class, etc.

[image: Images intégrées 1]

Re: extend-meta-model

Posted by Lorenz Buehmann <bu...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>.
Hi

It would be good to avoid flooding mailing lists, i.e. not write another
message if nobody answered to your previous one. People on mailing lists
have usually something else to do.

You already asked this in several threads on the OWL API mailing list
and you got an answer there as well.


Cheers,

Lorenz


On 09.12.2016 11:15, Hlel Emna wrote:
>
>
> -- Hi there
>
>
> my goal is to extend the meta-model OWL2 (the structural specification
> of OWL2) that exists on this link
>  https://www.w3.org/TR/2012/REC-owl2-syntax-20121211/
> <https://www.w3.org/TR/2012/REC-owl2-syntax-20121211/>. Otherwise, I
> search to extend the class diagrams that exist on this link by new
> components such as ProbabilisticClass, ProbabilisticIndividual . But I
> do not know if this is possible.
>
> for example, in this diagramme, it is possible to add the concept
> ProbabilisticClass which extends Class, etc.
>
> Images int�gr�es 1
>


Re: extend-meta-model

Posted by Dave Reynolds <da...@gmail.com>.
On 09/12/16 13:32, Hlel Emna wrote:
> my problem is how i can extend the meta-model of OWL2 (structural
> specification) for supporting the uncertainty.

This isn't a good list for this question. There's absolutely no support 
in Jena for uncertain reasoning nor for extending the OWL 2 model and no 
current plans to do so.

There has been lots of research on fuzzy and probabilistic extensions to 
DL include some built on OWL. A Google search for fuzzy logic reasoners 
(for example) turns up at least three reasoners (fuzzyDL, LiFR, 
DeLorean) and several projects looking at extending OWL 2 for to 
represent Fuzzy ontologies.

I would suggest contact some of those research groups.

Dave

> 2016-12-09 14:25 GMT+01:00 Martynas Jusevi\u010dius <ma...@graphity.org>:
>
>> You are not describing your problem, you are already suggesting a
>> solution -- which does not work.
>>
>> What is the problem which makes you think you need to extend OWL2?
>> What are you trying to achieve?
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Hlel Emna <em...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> hi
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I sent the same message several times because I can not find the solution
>>> to my problem.
>>>
>>> 2016-12-09 13:41 GMT+01:00 Lorenz Buehmann <
>>> buehmann@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>:
>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> It would be good to avoid flooding mailing lists, i.e. not write another
>>>> message if nobody answered to your previous one. People on mailing lists
>>>> have usually something else to do.
>>>>
>>>> You already asked this in several threads on the OWL API mailing list
>>>> and you got an answer there as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Lorenz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 09.12.2016 11:15, Hlel Emna wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Hi there
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> my goal is to extend the meta-model OWL2 (the structural specification
>>>>> of OWL2) that exists on this link
>>>>>  https://www.w3.org/TR/2012/REC-owl2-syntax-20121211/
>>>>> <https://www.w3.org/TR/2012/REC-owl2-syntax-20121211/>. Otherwise, I
>>>>> search to extend the class diagrams that exist on this link by new
>>>>> components such as ProbabilisticClass, ProbabilisticIndividual . But I
>>>>> do not know if this is possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> for example, in this diagramme, it is possible to add the concept
>>>>> ProbabilisticClass which extends Class, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Images intégrées 1
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>
>
>
>

Re: extend-meta-model

Posted by Hlel Emna <em...@gmail.com>.
my problem is how i can extend the meta-model of OWL2 (structural
specification) for supporting the uncertainty.


2016-12-09 14:25 GMT+01:00 Martynas Jusevičius <ma...@graphity.org>:

> You are not describing your problem, you are already suggesting a
> solution -- which does not work.
>
> What is the problem which makes you think you need to extend OWL2?
> What are you trying to achieve?
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Hlel Emna <em...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > hi
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I sent the same message several times because I can not find the solution
> > to my problem.
> >
> > 2016-12-09 13:41 GMT+01:00 Lorenz Buehmann <
> > buehmann@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>:
> >
> >> [image: Boxbe] <https://www.boxbe.com/overview> This message is
> eligible
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> >>
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> It would be good to avoid flooding mailing lists, i.e. not write another
> >> message if nobody answered to your previous one. People on mailing lists
> >> have usually something else to do.
> >>
> >> You already asked this in several threads on the OWL API mailing list
> >> and you got an answer there as well.
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Lorenz
> >>
> >>
> >> On 09.12.2016 11:15, Hlel Emna wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -- Hi there
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > my goal is to extend the meta-model OWL2 (the structural specification
> >> > of OWL2) that exists on this link
> >> >  https://www.w3.org/TR/2012/REC-owl2-syntax-20121211/
> >> > <https://www.w3.org/TR/2012/REC-owl2-syntax-20121211/>. Otherwise, I
> >> > search to extend the class diagrams that exist on this link by new
> >> > components such as ProbabilisticClass, ProbabilisticIndividual . But I
> >> > do not know if this is possible.
> >> >
> >> > for example, in this diagramme, it is possible to add the concept
> >> > ProbabilisticClass which extends Class, etc.
> >> >
> >> > Images intégrées 1
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
>



-- 
ammoun

Re: extend-meta-model

Posted by Martynas Jusevičius <ma...@graphity.org>.
You are not describing your problem, you are already suggesting a
solution -- which does not work.

What is the problem which makes you think you need to extend OWL2?
What are you trying to achieve?

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Hlel Emna <em...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi
>
> Hi,
>
> I sent the same message several times because I can not find the solution
> to my problem.
>
> 2016-12-09 13:41 GMT+01:00 Lorenz Buehmann <
> buehmann@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>:
>
>> [image: Boxbe] <https://www.boxbe.com/overview> This message is eligible
>> for Automatic Cleanup! (buehmann@informatik.uni-leipzig.de) Add cleanup
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>>
>> Hi
>>
>> It would be good to avoid flooding mailing lists, i.e. not write another
>> message if nobody answered to your previous one. People on mailing lists
>> have usually something else to do.
>>
>> You already asked this in several threads on the OWL API mailing list
>> and you got an answer there as well.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Lorenz
>>
>>
>> On 09.12.2016 11:15, Hlel Emna wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > -- Hi there
>> >
>> >
>> > my goal is to extend the meta-model OWL2 (the structural specification
>> > of OWL2) that exists on this link
>> >  https://www.w3.org/TR/2012/REC-owl2-syntax-20121211/
>> > <https://www.w3.org/TR/2012/REC-owl2-syntax-20121211/>. Otherwise, I
>> > search to extend the class diagrams that exist on this link by new
>> > components such as ProbabilisticClass, ProbabilisticIndividual . But I
>> > do not know if this is possible.
>> >
>> > for example, in this diagramme, it is possible to add the concept
>> > ProbabilisticClass which extends Class, etc.
>> >
>> > Images intégrées 1
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --

Re: extend-meta-model

Posted by Hlel Emna <em...@gmail.com>.
hi

Hi,

I sent the same message several times because I can not find the solution
to my problem.

2016-12-09 13:41 GMT+01:00 Lorenz Buehmann <
buehmann@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>:

> [image: Boxbe] <https://www.boxbe.com/overview> This message is eligible
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> | More info
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>
> Hi
>
> It would be good to avoid flooding mailing lists, i.e. not write another
> message if nobody answered to your previous one. People on mailing lists
> have usually something else to do.
>
> You already asked this in several threads on the OWL API mailing list
> and you got an answer there as well.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Lorenz
>
>
> On 09.12.2016 11:15, Hlel Emna wrote:
> >
> >
> > -- Hi there
> >
> >
> > my goal is to extend the meta-model OWL2 (the structural specification
> > of OWL2) that exists on this link
> >  https://www.w3.org/TR/2012/REC-owl2-syntax-20121211/
> > <https://www.w3.org/TR/2012/REC-owl2-syntax-20121211/>. Otherwise, I
> > search to extend the class diagrams that exist on this link by new
> > components such as ProbabilisticClass, ProbabilisticIndividual . But I
> > do not know if this is possible.
> >
> > for example, in this diagramme, it is possible to add the concept
> > ProbabilisticClass which extends Class, etc.
> >
> > Images intégrées 1
> >
>
>
>


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