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SOLR-7240, java -jar start.jar, and 5.1
SOLR-7240 broke the ability to start Solr using: java -jar start.jar
To me, that doesn't matter as I always use bin/solr, however this
means ant run-example is broken as-is since it relies on java -jar
start.jar.
Hossman is on vacation, but here's his response to my marking that as
a blocker for 5.1:
>>>
As of solr5 we very clearly document that the only supported way to
run solr is bin/solr - we may not have ever explicitly said start.jar
was no longer supported, but we shouldn't have ever needed to because
it was never officially supported either - it was just an *example* of
how to run solr in jetty.
If we're going to hold back on stuff like this now, I don't see how
were ever going to leave ourselves enough room to gradually replace
the internals like we've talked about for a while, unless we commit to
rolling our own start.jar
I won't stand in the way if people think this is important, but I give
up on trying to move past "solr is just a web app" if we worry about
stuff like this.
<<<
Mak has proposed the following solution for 5.1:
https://gist.github.com/makuk66/20c736ae47fc4993c461
We have 2 paths going forward:
1) Stick with the committed solution and accept that java -jar
start.jar no longer works; we'll have to fix ant run-example somehow.
2) Apply Mak's fix for 5.1
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Re: SOLR-7240, java -jar start.jar, and 5.1
Posted by "david.w.smiley@gmail.com" <da...@gmail.com>.
+1; more time is needed before start.jar can be deprecated/removed.
~ David Smiley
Freelance Apache Lucene/Solr Search Consultant/Developer
http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Timothy Potter <th...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> As Gus points out in the ticket, the cloud-dev scripts are broken too
> :-( So I'm with Erick on this one ...
>
> The fix I'd like to do is to just add start.ini to the server
> directory and leave the SOLR_JETTY_CONFIG var in the scripts alone
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Erick Erickson <er...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hmmm, can we apply Mak's fix for 5.1 to give us some breathing space
> > to get the release out? My suspeicion is that it'll take some time to
> > get all the docs changed if we don't ship with a working start.jar....
> >
> > Although as usual if I'm not doing the work I'm not sure I have much to
> say...
> >
> > FWIW,
> > Erick
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Timothy Potter <th...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> SOLR-7240 broke the ability to start Solr using: java -jar start.jar
> >>
> >> To me, that doesn't matter as I always use bin/solr, however this
> >> means ant run-example is broken as-is since it relies on java -jar
> >> start.jar.
> >>
> >> Hossman is on vacation, but here's his response to my marking that as
> >> a blocker for 5.1:
> >>
> >>>>>
> >> As of solr5 we very clearly document that the only supported way to
> >> run solr is bin/solr - we may not have ever explicitly said start.jar
> >> was no longer supported, but we shouldn't have ever needed to because
> >> it was never officially supported either - it was just an *example* of
> >> how to run solr in jetty.
> >>
> >> If we're going to hold back on stuff like this now, I don't see how
> >> were ever going to leave ourselves enough room to gradually replace
> >> the internals like we've talked about for a while, unless we commit to
> >> rolling our own start.jar
> >>
> >> I won't stand in the way if people think this is important, but I give
> >> up on trying to move past "solr is just a web app" if we worry about
> >> stuff like this.
> >> <<<
> >>
> >> Mak has proposed the following solution for 5.1:
> >> https://gist.github.com/makuk66/20c736ae47fc4993c461
> >>
> >> We have 2 paths going forward:
> >>
> >> 1) Stick with the committed solution and accept that java -jar
> >> start.jar no longer works; we'll have to fix ant run-example somehow.
> >>
> >> 2) Apply Mak's fix for 5.1
> >>
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Re: SOLR-7240, java -jar start.jar, and 5.1
Posted by Timothy Potter <th...@gmail.com>.
As Gus points out in the ticket, the cloud-dev scripts are broken too
:-( So I'm with Erick on this one ...
The fix I'd like to do is to just add start.ini to the server
directory and leave the SOLR_JETTY_CONFIG var in the scripts alone
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Erick Erickson <er...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hmmm, can we apply Mak's fix for 5.1 to give us some breathing space
> to get the release out? My suspeicion is that it'll take some time to
> get all the docs changed if we don't ship with a working start.jar....
>
> Although as usual if I'm not doing the work I'm not sure I have much to say...
>
> FWIW,
> Erick
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Timothy Potter <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> SOLR-7240 broke the ability to start Solr using: java -jar start.jar
>>
>> To me, that doesn't matter as I always use bin/solr, however this
>> means ant run-example is broken as-is since it relies on java -jar
>> start.jar.
>>
>> Hossman is on vacation, but here's his response to my marking that as
>> a blocker for 5.1:
>>
>>>>>
>> As of solr5 we very clearly document that the only supported way to
>> run solr is bin/solr - we may not have ever explicitly said start.jar
>> was no longer supported, but we shouldn't have ever needed to because
>> it was never officially supported either - it was just an *example* of
>> how to run solr in jetty.
>>
>> If we're going to hold back on stuff like this now, I don't see how
>> were ever going to leave ourselves enough room to gradually replace
>> the internals like we've talked about for a while, unless we commit to
>> rolling our own start.jar
>>
>> I won't stand in the way if people think this is important, but I give
>> up on trying to move past "solr is just a web app" if we worry about
>> stuff like this.
>> <<<
>>
>> Mak has proposed the following solution for 5.1:
>> https://gist.github.com/makuk66/20c736ae47fc4993c461
>>
>> We have 2 paths going forward:
>>
>> 1) Stick with the committed solution and accept that java -jar
>> start.jar no longer works; we'll have to fix ant run-example somehow.
>>
>> 2) Apply Mak's fix for 5.1
>>
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>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
>>
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Re: SOLR-7240, java -jar start.jar, and 5.1
Posted by Erick Erickson <er...@gmail.com>.
Hmmm, can we apply Mak's fix for 5.1 to give us some breathing space
to get the release out? My suspeicion is that it'll take some time to
get all the docs changed if we don't ship with a working start.jar....
Although as usual if I'm not doing the work I'm not sure I have much to say...
FWIW,
Erick
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Timothy Potter <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
> SOLR-7240 broke the ability to start Solr using: java -jar start.jar
>
> To me, that doesn't matter as I always use bin/solr, however this
> means ant run-example is broken as-is since it relies on java -jar
> start.jar.
>
> Hossman is on vacation, but here's his response to my marking that as
> a blocker for 5.1:
>
>>>>
> As of solr5 we very clearly document that the only supported way to
> run solr is bin/solr - we may not have ever explicitly said start.jar
> was no longer supported, but we shouldn't have ever needed to because
> it was never officially supported either - it was just an *example* of
> how to run solr in jetty.
>
> If we're going to hold back on stuff like this now, I don't see how
> were ever going to leave ourselves enough room to gradually replace
> the internals like we've talked about for a while, unless we commit to
> rolling our own start.jar
>
> I won't stand in the way if people think this is important, but I give
> up on trying to move past "solr is just a web app" if we worry about
> stuff like this.
> <<<
>
> Mak has proposed the following solution for 5.1:
> https://gist.github.com/makuk66/20c736ae47fc4993c461
>
> We have 2 paths going forward:
>
> 1) Stick with the committed solution and accept that java -jar
> start.jar no longer works; we'll have to fix ant run-example somehow.
>
> 2) Apply Mak's fix for 5.1
>
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