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Posted to user@openmeetings.apache.org by Daniel Ascher <ap...@aplustutoring.com> on 2022/02/05 16:25:31 UTC
Re: Remote control
Is the remote control feature going to be implemented again? Or is this not
going to be a part of Openmeetings from now on?
Thanks. Dan
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On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:31 AM Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hello Thomas,
>
> remote controlling is not implemented yet for 5.x
> it should work for 4.x :)
>
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 16:07, Thomas Scholzen <ts...@buche17.de>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I read that it is possible to remote control the mouse when a screen is
>> shared and would like to use this feature. However, I can not find out how
>> to do this. When searching for documentation about openmeetings remote
>> control, I only found information about how to give users the rights to do
>> this.
>>
>> Is remote controlling the screen of the sharing host really possible by a
>> client or did I misunderstood the feature? I am on Version 5.0.1,
>> Revision3628ad7, Builddate 2020-09-19T04:50:54Z. Is there any dependency I
>> might miss?
>>
>> I would be grateful for help and explanations,
>> best regards,
>> Thomas
>>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
Re: Remote control
Posted by Daniel Ascher <ap...@aplustutoring.com>.
Thanks for the comprehensive response Sebastian. That makes sense to me. If
there is a significant call for this feature I assume that conversation
will occur. Otherwise, I suppose that means that people don't feel it's
needed.
Cheers! Dan
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On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 8:16 PM seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> OpenMeetings since v5.x.x is using webRTC. WebRTC doesn't allow remote
> control.
>
> In order to implement remote control we would need to additionally run the
> screen sharing WebStart application on the screen that is being remote
> controlled (the sharer side). Same WebStart application that was part of
> OpenMeetings 4.x.x and before.
>
> This is because WebRTC does not have any capability to send signals to the
> surrounding environment that would manipulate the mouse position or click
> something. Same as your web browser/JavaScript does not allow you to access
> or manipulate anything outside of the current browser.
> See for example:
> https://webrtc.ventures/2016/03/3-things-webrtc-cannot-do/
>
> So we would need to re-implement the screen sharing applet in order to
> access and manipulate the mouse position on the sharer side.
>
> I am not sure if there is enough interest in the ability to remote control
> that makes it worth shipping & maintaining an additional WebStart Java
> Applet for OpenMeetings.
>
> Thanks
> Seb
>
> Sebastian Wagner
> Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com
> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
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> On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 at 05:26, Daniel Ascher <ap...@aplustutoring.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Is the remote control feature going to be implemented again? Or is this
>> not going to be a part of Openmeetings from now on?
>>
>> Thanks. Dan
>>
>>
>> <https://eblink1.com/openurl?nid=5428256641646592&user_id=5036042778312704&random_id=1644078274941&thread_id=&from_email=aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com&source=web_ext&url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalendar.aplustutoring.com%2FDanielAscher>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:31 AM Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Thomas,
>>>
>>> remote controlling is not implemented yet for 5.x
>>> it should work for 4.x :)
>>>
>>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 16:07, Thomas Scholzen <ts...@buche17.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I read that it is possible to remote control the mouse when a screen is
>>>> shared and would like to use this feature. However, I can not find out how
>>>> to do this. When searching for documentation about openmeetings remote
>>>> control, I only found information about how to give users the rights to do
>>>> this.
>>>>
>>>> Is remote controlling the screen of the sharing host really possible by
>>>> a client or did I misunderstood the feature? I am on Version 5.0.1,
>>>> Revision3628ad7, Builddate 2020-09-19T04:50:54Z. Is there any dependency I
>>>> might miss?
>>>>
>>>> I would be grateful for help and explanations,
>>>> best regards,
>>>> Thomas
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>>
>>
Re: Remote control
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
OpenMeetings since v5.x.x is using webRTC. WebRTC doesn't allow remote
control.
In order to implement remote control we would need to additionally run the
screen sharing WebStart application on the screen that is being remote
controlled (the sharer side). Same WebStart application that was part of
OpenMeetings 4.x.x and before.
This is because WebRTC does not have any capability to send signals to the
surrounding environment that would manipulate the mouse position or click
something. Same as your web browser/JavaScript does not allow you to access
or manipulate anything outside of the current browser.
See for example: https://webrtc.ventures/2016/03/3-things-webrtc-cannot-do/
So we would need to re-implement the screen sharing applet in order to
access and manipulate the mouse position on the sharer side.
I am not sure if there is enough interest in the ability to remote control
that makes it worth shipping & maintaining an additional WebStart Java
Applet for OpenMeetings.
Thanks
Seb
Sebastian Wagner
Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com
http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5
Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings
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On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 at 05:26, Daniel Ascher <ap...@aplustutoring.com>
wrote:
> Is the remote control feature going to be implemented again? Or is this
> not going to be a part of Openmeetings from now on?
>
> Thanks. Dan
>
>
> <https://eblink1.com/openurl?nid=5428256641646592&user_id=5036042778312704&random_id=1644078274941&thread_id=&from_email=aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com&source=web_ext&url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalendar.aplustutoring.com%2FDanielAscher>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:31 AM Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Thomas,
>>
>> remote controlling is not implemented yet for 5.x
>> it should work for 4.x :)
>>
>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 16:07, Thomas Scholzen <ts...@buche17.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I read that it is possible to remote control the mouse when a screen is
>>> shared and would like to use this feature. However, I can not find out how
>>> to do this. When searching for documentation about openmeetings remote
>>> control, I only found information about how to give users the rights to do
>>> this.
>>>
>>> Is remote controlling the screen of the sharing host really possible by
>>> a client or did I misunderstood the feature? I am on Version 5.0.1,
>>> Revision3628ad7, Builddate 2020-09-19T04:50:54Z. Is there any dependency I
>>> might miss?
>>>
>>> I would be grateful for help and explanations,
>>> best regards,
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>