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Re: svn commit: r648946 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/manual/rewrite/rewrite_guide_advanced.xml

On 17/04/2008, pepper@apache.org <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
>  +    situation, <em>e.g.,</em> adding the <code>[PT]</code> flag if

Why emphasise "e.g." throughout this patch? I don't see how that's
correct or useful.

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Re: svn commit: r648946 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/manual/rewrite/rewrite_guide_advanced.xml

Posted by Andrew Ford <A....@ford-mason.co.uk>.
Chris Pepper wrote:
> Joshua Slive wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Nick Kew <ni...@webthing.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:29:36 -0400
>>>  Chris Pepper <pe...@reppep.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  > Vincent Bray wrote:
>>>  > > On 17/04/2008, pepper@apache.org <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>  > >>  +    situation, <em>e.g.,</em> adding the <code>[PT]</code> flag
>>>  > >> if
>>>  > >
>>>  > > Why emphasise "e.g." throughout this patch? I don't see how that's
>>>  > > correct or useful.
>>>  >
>>>  >       Because it's normally italicized in English.
>>>
>>>  Really?  Not IME.
>>
>> Garner's Dictionary of Modern American Usage suggests it should be
>> unitalicized.
>
>     I have seen it consistently italicized in print, presumably
> because it's a non-English import, and I typically see untranslated
> words italicized. I don't use <i> because back in the Before Time,
> there was much ranting and gnashing of teeth over presentational
> markup, and I got in the habit of <strong> & <em> instead of <b> & <i>.
>
> http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/ie-eg-oh-my.aspx
>
>     I hope to do some more review on that doc (all 3 versions)
> tonight, and will back out the <em>s soon.
>
Hart's Rules for Compositors and Readers (OUP) states "use roman
(without quotation marks) for: ... all the commonest short abbrevations:
... cf., ... e.g., .. i.e., ... "

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Re: svn commit: r648946 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/manual/rewrite/rewrite_guide_advanced.xml

Posted by Chris Pepper <pe...@reppep.com>.
Joshua Slive wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Nick Kew <ni...@webthing.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:29:36 -0400
>>  Chris Pepper <pe...@reppep.com> wrote:
>>
>>  > Vincent Bray wrote:
>>  > > On 17/04/2008, pepper@apache.org <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
>>  > >>  +    situation, <em>e.g.,</em> adding the <code>[PT]</code> flag
>>  > >> if
>>  > >
>>  > > Why emphasise "e.g." throughout this patch? I don't see how that's
>>  > > correct or useful.
>>  >
>>  >       Because it's normally italicized in English.
>>
>>  Really?  Not IME.
> 
> Garner's Dictionary of Modern American Usage suggests it should be unitalicized.

	I have seen it consistently italicized in print, presumably because 
it's a non-English import, and I typically see untranslated words 
italicized. I don't use <i> because back in the Before Time, there was 
much ranting and gnashing of teeth over presentational markup, and I got 
in the habit of <strong> & <em> instead of <b> & <i>.

http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/ie-eg-oh-my.aspx

	I hope to do some more review on that doc (all 3 versions) tonight, and 
will back out the <em>s soon.


						Chris
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Re: svn commit: r648946 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/manual/rewrite/rewrite_guide_advanced.xml

Posted by Joshua Slive <jo...@slive.ca>.
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Nick Kew <ni...@webthing.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:29:36 -0400
>  Chris Pepper <pe...@reppep.com> wrote:
>
>  > Vincent Bray wrote:
>  > > On 17/04/2008, pepper@apache.org <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
>  > >>  +    situation, <em>e.g.,</em> adding the <code>[PT]</code> flag
>  > >> if
>  > >
>  > > Why emphasise "e.g." throughout this patch? I don't see how that's
>  > > correct or useful.
>  >
>  >       Because it's normally italicized in English.
>
>  Really?  Not IME.

Garner's Dictionary of Modern American Usage suggests it should be unitalicized.

Joshua.

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Re: svn commit: r648946 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/manual/rewrite/rewrite_guide_advanced.xml

Posted by Nick Kew <ni...@webthing.com>.
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:29:36 -0400
Chris Pepper <pe...@reppep.com> wrote:

> Vincent Bray wrote:
> > On 17/04/2008, pepper@apache.org <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>  +    situation, <em>e.g.,</em> adding the <code>[PT]</code> flag
> >> if
> > 
> > Why emphasise "e.g." throughout this patch? I don't see how that's
> > correct or useful.
> 
> 	Because it's normally italicized in English.

Really?  Not IME.

However, the correct markup to italicise it would be <i>.
Any resemblance to <em> is an artifact of your browser's rendition.

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Re: svn commit: r648946 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/manual/rewrite/rewrite_guide_advanced.xml

Posted by Chris Pepper <pe...@reppep.com>.
Vincent Bray wrote:
> On 17/04/2008, pepper@apache.org <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
>>  +    situation, <em>e.g.,</em> adding the <code>[PT]</code> flag if
> 
> Why emphasise "e.g." throughout this patch? I don't see how that's
> correct or useful.

	Because it's normally italicized in English.


						Chris
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