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Posted to dev@wicket.apache.org by Bruno Borges <br...@gmail.com> on 2007/06/01 00:05:43 UTC

Re: VOTE: Configuring DEPLOYMENT/DEVELOPMENT mode.

+1... But just to make sure: is the DEPLOYMENT configuration going to be
default?

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On 5/31/07, Jean-Baptiste Quenot <jb...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> * Al Maw:
> >  - We default to DEVELOPMENT and we should make it more obvious that you
> >    should set DEPLOYMENT for production servers.
>
> +1 many people I know deploy their application in DEVELOPMENT
> mode.  The Wicket control panel should be visible in development
> mode without the possibility to turn it off, like you mentioned in
> WICKET-599.
>
> >  - We currently provide the following methods to configure which mode
> >    you run in:
> >      - Set a System property.
> >      - Set a servlet context param.
> >      - Set a filter param.
> >
> >    If you don't fit into any of those, it makes life difficult - you
> >    don't want to just call configure(DEPLOYMENT) in your init() method,
> >    because then configure() is called twice - once by Wicket internally,
> >    probably in default DEVELOPMENT mode, and once by you manually. This
> >    results in a bunch of DEVELOPMENT mode stuff running on your live
> >    environment, and it's not that obvious that this is what's going on.
> >    (See WICKET-6, where even JBQ doesn't seem to entirely get this.)
>
> Yes I get it entirely but you didn't mention that in the issue
> description (that configure() is called twice) so it was not very
> clear.
>
> > Err, can I call a vote on this please?
> >  [x] Yes, great idea, let's get it into 1.3.0-beta2
> >  [ ] No, that's rubbish, because...
>
> +1 for getConfigurationType() with a default implementation for
> backwards compatibility.
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Re: VOTE: Configuring DEPLOYMENT/DEVELOPMENT mode.

Posted by "Philip A. Chapman" <pc...@pcsw.us>.
That was web 0.5 beta wasn't it?  :-D

On Fri, 2007-06-01 at 01:53 +0200, Martijn Dashorst wrote:

> Or <marque><blink><font color="red">
> 
> Aah... those old web 1.0 days...
> 
> Martijn
> 
> On 6/1/07, Eelco Hillenius <ee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yeah, good idea. Too bad we can't use <blink> ;)
> >
> > Eelco
> >
> >
> > On 5/31/07, Al Maw <wi...@almaw.com> wrote:
> > > Eelco Hillenius wrote:
> > > >> +1... But just to make sure: is the DEPLOYMENT configuration going to be
> > > >> default?
> > > >
> > > > Nope, DEVELOPMENT is the default (see one of the other threads this week).
> > >
> > > But I'll make the log warning larger while I'm there.
> > >
> > > Something like this should do the trick:
> > >
> > > ********************************************************************
> > > *** WARNING: Wicket is running in DEVELOPMENT mode.              ***
> > > ***                               ^^^^^^^^^^^                    ***
> > > *** Do NOT deploy to your live server(s) without changing this.  ***
> > > *** See Application#getConfigurationType() for more information. ***
> > > ********************************************************************
> > >
> > > We could even log it to System.err, so Eclipse makes it red. I can't see
> > > any objection to System.err logging in dev mode. If someone deploys in
> > > production their app server admin might even come and clobber them with
> > > a big stick. ;-)
> > >
> > > What do you think?
> > >
> > > Al
> > >
> >
> 
> 

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Re: VOTE: Configuring DEPLOYMENT/DEVELOPMENT mode.

Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
Or <marque><blink><font color="red">

Aah... those old web 1.0 days...

Martijn

On 6/1/07, Eelco Hillenius <ee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, good idea. Too bad we can't use <blink> ;)
>
> Eelco
>
>
> On 5/31/07, Al Maw <wi...@almaw.com> wrote:
> > Eelco Hillenius wrote:
> > >> +1... But just to make sure: is the DEPLOYMENT configuration going to be
> > >> default?
> > >
> > > Nope, DEVELOPMENT is the default (see one of the other threads this week).
> >
> > But I'll make the log warning larger while I'm there.
> >
> > Something like this should do the trick:
> >
> > ********************************************************************
> > *** WARNING: Wicket is running in DEVELOPMENT mode.              ***
> > ***                               ^^^^^^^^^^^                    ***
> > *** Do NOT deploy to your live server(s) without changing this.  ***
> > *** See Application#getConfigurationType() for more information. ***
> > ********************************************************************
> >
> > We could even log it to System.err, so Eclipse makes it red. I can't see
> > any objection to System.err logging in dev mode. If someone deploys in
> > production their app server admin might even come and clobber them with
> > a big stick. ;-)
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Al
> >
>


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Re: VOTE: Configuring DEPLOYMENT/DEVELOPMENT mode.

Posted by Eelco Hillenius <ee...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, good idea. Too bad we can't use <blink> ;)

Eelco


On 5/31/07, Al Maw <wi...@almaw.com> wrote:
> Eelco Hillenius wrote:
> >> +1... But just to make sure: is the DEPLOYMENT configuration going to be
> >> default?
> >
> > Nope, DEVELOPMENT is the default (see one of the other threads this week).
>
> But I'll make the log warning larger while I'm there.
>
> Something like this should do the trick:
>
> ********************************************************************
> *** WARNING: Wicket is running in DEVELOPMENT mode.              ***
> ***                               ^^^^^^^^^^^                    ***
> *** Do NOT deploy to your live server(s) without changing this.  ***
> *** See Application#getConfigurationType() for more information. ***
> ********************************************************************
>
> We could even log it to System.err, so Eclipse makes it red. I can't see
> any objection to System.err logging in dev mode. If someone deploys in
> production their app server admin might even come and clobber them with
> a big stick. ;-)
>
> What do you think?
>
> Al
>

Re: VOTE: Configuring DEPLOYMENT/DEVELOPMENT mode.

Posted by Al Maw <wi...@almaw.com>.
Eelco Hillenius wrote:
>> +1... But just to make sure: is the DEPLOYMENT configuration going to be
>> default?
> 
> Nope, DEVELOPMENT is the default (see one of the other threads this week).

But I'll make the log warning larger while I'm there.

Something like this should do the trick:

********************************************************************
*** WARNING: Wicket is running in DEVELOPMENT mode.              ***
***                               ^^^^^^^^^^^                    ***
*** Do NOT deploy to your live server(s) without changing this.  ***
*** See Application#getConfigurationType() for more information. ***
********************************************************************

We could even log it to System.err, so Eclipse makes it red. I can't see
any objection to System.err logging in dev mode. If someone deploys in
production their app server admin might even come and clobber them with
a big stick. ;-)

What do you think?

Al

Re: VOTE: Configuring DEPLOYMENT/DEVELOPMENT mode.

Posted by Eelco Hillenius <ee...@gmail.com>.
> +1... But just to make sure: is the DEPLOYMENT configuration going to be
> default?

Nope, DEVELOPMENT is the default (see one of the other threads this week).

Eelco