Single download, setup and build.

[Prasad Kashyap <go...@gmail.com>]

This may be slightly related to Hernan's wiki thread but since we were
talking about G for the impatient and a newbie manual, thought I'd ask this.
 Dave Klavon was talking about a single download and setup of all prereqs
and G source, and build it too. I liked that idea and think that would be
really nice. I even put together a package with basic scripts for that.
 However, now I am beginning to wonder if it is legal/permissible for us to
"*ship*" JDK, svn, maven and CVS in this single package ?
 Comments ?
 Cheers
Prasad

Re: Single download, setup and build.

[Barry van Someren <go...@gmail.com>]

Well, but seeing how these tools are only required if you actually
want to work with the Geronimo people, the requirements aren't really
that strong.
Perhaps we could make daily code drops available for those who want
the somewhat current source but can't (or won't) use CVS/SVN.
Still CVS and SVN are easy to install

On 11/2/05, Prasad Kashyap <go...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't disagree with that. G is pretty easy to build. It's just a chore
> downloading upto 4 different prereqs from 4 different locations. But I see
> your point reg. SDK.
>
> Thanx
> Prasad
>
>
> On 11/2/05, Barry van Someren <go...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > We could not ship the SDK (which is required to build the code) but we
> > could in theory ship the others.
> > You'd still need to worry about integrating them into the OS though,
> > so I'd suggest we just keep pointing the users to instructions for
> > CVS, SVN and Maven.
> > It's a pain to set up, but most developers will either already have it
> > or will know how to install it (with or without the instructions)
> >
> > Once you have everything setup, G is one of the easiest environments
> > to work with.
> >
> > On 11/2/05, Sachin Patel < sppatel2@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > -1 from me.  I could possibly understand the JDK, but definatley not
> > > svn, maven, and CVS.
> > >
> > > Prasad Kashyap wrote:
> > > > This may be slightly related to Hernan's wiki thread but since we were
> > > > talking about G for the impatient and a newbie manual, thought I'd ask
> this.
> > > >
> > > > Dave Klavon was talking about a single download and setup of all
> > > > prereqs and G source, and build it too. I liked that idea and think
> that
> > > > would be really nice. I even put together a package with basic scripts
> > > > for that.
> > > >
> > > > However, now I am beginning to wonder if it is legal/permissible for
> us
> > > > to "/ship/"  JDK, svn, maven and CVS in this single package ?
> > > >
> > > > Comments ?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Prasad
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sachin
> > >
> >
>
>

Re: Single download, setup and build.

[Prasad Kashyap <go...@gmail.com>]

I don't disagree with that. G is pretty easy to build. It's just a chore
downloading upto 4 different prereqs from 4 different locations. But I see
your point reg. SDK.
 Thanx
Prasad
 On 11/2/05, Barry van Someren <go...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We could not ship the SDK (which is required to build the code) but we
> could in theory ship the others.
> You'd still need to worry about integrating them into the OS though,
> so I'd suggest we just keep pointing the users to instructions for
> CVS, SVN and Maven.
> It's a pain to set up, but most developers will either already have it
> or will know how to install it (with or without the instructions)
>
> Once you have everything setup, G is one of the easiest environments
> to work with.
>
> On 11/2/05, Sachin Patel <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > -1 from me. I could possibly understand the JDK, but definatley not
> > svn, maven, and CVS.
> >
> > Prasad Kashyap wrote:
> > > This may be slightly related to Hernan's wiki thread but since we were
> > > talking about G for the impatient and a newbie manual, thought I'd ask
> this.
> > >
> > > Dave Klavon was talking about a single download and setup of all
> > > prereqs and G source, and build it too. I liked that idea and think
> that
> > > would be really nice. I even put together a package with basic scripts
> > > for that.
> > >
> > > However, now I am beginning to wonder if it is legal/permissible for
> us
> > > to "/ship/" JDK, svn, maven and CVS in this single package ?
> > >
> > > Comments ?
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Prasad
> >
> > --
> > Sachin
> >
>

Re: Single download, setup and build.

[Calvin Austin <ca...@spikesource.com>]

There was a discussion earlier on the alias on what Geronimo could or 
couldn't do with the JDK and other Sun libraries. You can actually do 
more than most people think, but anyway for a developer using Java 
already making them download another JDK is overkill.

regards
calvin

Barry van Someren wrote:

>We could not ship the SDK (which is required to build the code) but we
>could in theory ship the others.
>You'd still need to worry about integrating them into the OS though,
>so I'd suggest we just keep pointing the users to instructions for
>CVS, SVN and Maven.
>It's a pain to set up, but most developers will either already have it
>or will know how to install it (with or without the instructions)
>
>Once you have everything setup, G is one of the easiest environments
>to work with.
>
>On 11/2/05, Sachin Patel <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>-1 from me.  I could possibly understand the JDK, but definatley not
>>svn, maven, and CVS.
>>
>>Prasad Kashyap wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>This may be slightly related to Hernan's wiki thread but since we were
>>>talking about G for the impatient and a newbie manual, thought I'd ask this.
>>>
>>>Dave Klavon was talking about a single download and setup of all
>>>prereqs and G source, and build it too. I liked that idea and think that
>>>would be really nice. I even put together a package with basic scripts
>>>for that.
>>>
>>>However, now I am beginning to wonder if it is legal/permissible for us
>>>to "/ship/"  JDK, svn, maven and CVS in this single package ?
>>>
>>>Comments ?
>>>
>>>Cheers
>>>Prasad
>>>      
>>>
>>--
>>Sachin
>>
>>    
>>

Re: Single download, setup and build.

[Barry van Someren <go...@gmail.com>]

We could not ship the SDK (which is required to build the code) but we
could in theory ship the others.
You'd still need to worry about integrating them into the OS though,
so I'd suggest we just keep pointing the users to instructions for
CVS, SVN and Maven.
It's a pain to set up, but most developers will either already have it
or will know how to install it (with or without the instructions)

Once you have everything setup, G is one of the easiest environments
to work with.

On 11/2/05, Sachin Patel <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> -1 from me.  I could possibly understand the JDK, but definatley not
> svn, maven, and CVS.
>
> Prasad Kashyap wrote:
> > This may be slightly related to Hernan's wiki thread but since we were
> > talking about G for the impatient and a newbie manual, thought I'd ask this.
> >
> > Dave Klavon was talking about a single download and setup of all
> > prereqs and G source, and build it too. I liked that idea and think that
> > would be really nice. I even put together a package with basic scripts
> > for that.
> >
> > However, now I am beginning to wonder if it is legal/permissible for us
> > to "/ship/"  JDK, svn, maven and CVS in this single package ?
> >
> > Comments ?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Prasad
>
> --
> Sachin
>

Re: Single download, setup and build.

[Sachin Patel <sp...@gmail.com>]

-1 from me.  I could possibly understand the JDK, but definatley not 
svn, maven, and CVS.

Prasad Kashyap wrote:
> This may be slightly related to Hernan's wiki thread but since we were 
> talking about G for the impatient and a newbie manual, thought I'd ask this.
>  
> Dave Klavon was talking about a single download and setup of all 
> prereqs and G source, and build it too. I liked that idea and think that 
> would be really nice. I even put together a package with basic scripts 
> for that.
>  
> However, now I am beginning to wonder if it is legal/permissible for us 
> to "/ship/"  JDK, svn, maven and CVS in this single package ?
>  
> Comments ?
>  
> Cheers
> Prasad

-- 
Sachin

Re: Single download, setup and build.

[Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com>]

One thing I'd like to see working is the scm:bootstrap goal.   
Assuming you have a JDK and maven installed, maven will checkout your  
source and build the project.  For example, this works for activeIO:

maven scm:bootstrap -Dmaven.scm.url=scm:svn:https://svn.codehaus.org/ 
activeio/trunk/activeio -Dmaven.scm.checkout.dir=activeio

Of course activeIO doesn't complete the build for some reason, but  
you get the idea :)

-dain

On Nov 2, 2005, at 7:21 AM, Prasad Kashyap wrote:

> This may be slightly related to Hernan's wiki thread but since we  
> were talking about G for the impatient and a newbie manual, thought  
> I'd ask this.
>
> Dave Klavon was talking about a single download and setup of all  
> prereqs and G source, and build it too. I liked that idea and think  
> that would be really nice. I even put together a package with basic  
> scripts for that.
>
> However, now I am beginning to wonder if it is legal/permissible  
> for us to "ship"  JDK, svn, maven and CVS in this single package ?
>
> Comments ?
>
> Cheers
> Prasad