Pagerank, SEO etc. ...

[Andreas Kuckartz <A....@ping.de>]

I find it quite unhealthy that a thread which began with the
announcement that one of the members of this podling that he "started
with a Apache Stanbol documentation" has now been transformed into an
OT-thread about pagerank and SEO (and how the Apache Way does not work,
which in my opinion is the core of the differences).

Even more unhealthy is that for one member the existence of a "nofollow"
HTML-attribute seems to be so important that he indicated that he might
have made his agreement with "moving the project to Apache" dependent on
the non-use of that attribute.

I do not see how such an attitude (and the aggressive tone involved) can
help improving Apache Stanbol or develop *any* Open Source community. It
takes time and energy away especially from creating and improving
documentation - which is urgently needed to attract both, more users and
more (and more productive) developers.

Cheers,
Andreas

Re: Pagerank, SEO etc. ...

[Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>]

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 9:09 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> ...The ASF members is famous for its regular 100-email threads...

I meant "ASF members mailing list" of course.

-Bertrand

Re: Pagerank, SEO etc. ...

[Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>]

Hi Andreas,

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Andreas Kuckartz <A....@ping.de> wrote:
> ...I find it quite unhealthy that a thread which began with the
> announcement that one of the members of this podling that he "started
> with a Apache Stanbol documentation" has now been transformed into an
> OT-thread about pagerank and SEO (and how the Apache Way does not work,
> which in my opinion is the core of the differences)....

I agree with you but unfortunately such events are relatively common
in our world of email-mostly remote communication.

The ASF members is famous for its regular 100-email threads, and IMO
quite a number of them discuss topics that...well, might not be really
worth wasting time on. That's life I guess.

The good thing is that most of the Stanbol community stayed out of the
thread that you mention - as you say that thread mixes up a number of
issues that might be worth discussing one at a time, but are next to
impossible to discuss by email when mixed together.

We'll try to do better next time (including changing subject lines
when a thread switches topics) - for now as I've said there I'm out of
that particular discussion. People are welcome to discuss specific
things that were mentioned there of course, but that needs to happen
in a more constructive and focused way.

Thanks for expressing your concerns,
-Bertrand

Re: Pagerank, SEO etc. ...

[Stefane Fermigier <sf...@nuxeo.com>]

On Jul 2, 2011, at 12:15 AM, Andreas Kuckartz wrote:

> I find it quite unhealthy that a thread which began with the
> announcement that one of the members of this podling that he "started
> with a Apache Stanbol documentation" has now been transformed into an
> OT-thread about pagerank and SEO (and how the Apache Way does not work,
> which in my opinion is the core of the differences).

I have never said that.

> Even more unhealthy is that for one member the existence of a "nofollow"
> HTML-attribute seems to be so important that he indicated that he might
> have made his agreement with "moving the project to Apache" dependent on
> the non-use of that attribute.

I haven't said that (and if I said it - too tired to check - I didn't mean it).

What I mean is that there is a reality, that this project is mostly developed by the IKS project, and this can't be ignored. 

> I do not see how such an attitude (and the aggressive tone involved) can
> help improving Apache Stanbol or develop *any* Open Source community. It
> takes time and energy away especially from creating and improving
> documentation - which is urgently needed to attract both, more users and
> more (and more productive) developers.

Indeed.

Will you be there at the workshop in Paris next week ?

  S.

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