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Posted to user@struts.apache.org by Zahid Rahman <za...@btconnect.com> on 2002/09/25 03:51:12 UTC
Excuse me !
I happen to know three different architectures for web applications.
Yes, I know Branching statements is an old fashioned saying.
With regard to race!
The very first time I logged on, my account was impersonated!!!
Although I originate from the UK.
I pointed out to a Pakistani company that I am a Pakistani.
The Pakistani firm replied their account have been impersonated too.
90% of the people ask questions on mail list and
reply to rehearsed answers.
I have done the crawling and now I am in the process of walking
just about to run.
With regard to Bank ---
Their cake and they will have to eat it!
The question was an attitude test
i.e. Know your enemy!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter A. J. Pilgrim" <pe...@xenonsoft.demon.co.uk>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 2:26 AM
Subject: Re: This guy from the bank raised a question ?
> Zahid Rahman wrote:
> > Eddie Bush wrote that the designer of the architecture, Craig R.
> > McClannahan is present on this line.
> >
> > I was on the websphere line and Don Carlos, from DB.COM was talking
about
> > it.
> > So I mentioned it.
> >
>
> Although this late in the day, because I catching up 2500 emails after
> configuring my SOHO network for ADSL, I will respond
>
> Well it isn't surprised that you got DISSED in the end.
> And your type of attitude stinks to the extreme.
> This is the 21st century mate, we are using the Internet
> a form that makes culture and race and dare I say colour
> very transparent. This is the great equaliser or super
> highway isn't it. I dont appreciate your patronising
> talks on race or culture and for the record, slavery
> (in the United States at least) was banned over hundred
> years ago.
>
> "What do you do about the back button on the browser ?
> The answer being nothing."
>
> Your prose reveals your inexperience and ineptitude in all
> things HTML / HTTP and Java Server side technologies to the real
> experts on the list, the technologists who have and are living at
> the bleeding bloody edge. You should really calm down and
> spend time learning the technology better. How it works?
> Why people use it? How people used it to solve real problems?
> What are trying to solve? Does the technology fit the
> bill, is it the right solution?
> You cannot pick up this information , no I say, knowledge
> from a quick read of marketing department sales broshures.
> You cannot get it right, if you repeat the latest
> business lingo "in terms of ...", "in terms ....".
> Your project will fail if simply dont understand the mode
> (as in the french meaning "fashion").
> This is open source dealing with real people with real life.
> This is where real "cultural diversity" is truly happening,
> fool. This is where the real "synergies" are?
> This is not human resources department.
> This is not a boardroom meeting of stuffy highly over-paid
> executives, although I'd gladly accept the wages from those guys.
> This is the boiler room or the mechanics garage or the engineering
> facility where people get their hands routinely dirty.
> Learn to crawl, before you walk, before you run.
>
> PS: And this from a ex-Deutsche bank employmee. It really
> does show that DB.com still don't know their left hand from
> their right foot, but there you go. It .... happens, if
> the belief, culture and the motivation stagnates, and you lay off
> the really brillaint IT people in your organisation.
>
> --
> Peter Pilgrim +-----\ +-++----++----+
> Java Technologist | | | || || | 'n' Shine
> | O | | || --+| ---+
> /\ | ._ / | | \ \ | |
> / \ | | \ \ | |+-- || ---+ A new day
> /_ _\ "Up" | | | | | || || | is coming
> || +-+ +-+ +-++----++----+
> <home page="http://www.xenonsoft.demon.co.uk/" />
>
>
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Re: Excuse me !
Posted by "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <ve...@veldy.net>.
: 90% of the people ask questions on mail list and
: reply to rehearsed answers.
What are you talking about?
Tom Veldhouse
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zahid Rahman" <za...@btconnect.com>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 8:51 PM
Subject: Excuse me !
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Re: Excuse me !
Posted by Scott Barr <sb...@chariot.net.au>.
I really hate to add to the noise on this list (but I find myself doing
it anyway :/ ), but no one on this list should be considered your enemy!
I've been a long time lurker to this list, and the people here are
helpful, friendly, maybe sometimes a little direct even, but not your
enemy
Regards
Scott
On Wed, 2002-09-25 at 11:21, Zahid Rahman wrote:
I happen to know three different architectures for web applications.
Yes, I know Branching statements is an old fashioned saying.
With regard to race!
The very first time I logged on, my account was impersonated!!!
Although I originate from the UK.
I pointed out to a Pakistani company that I am a Pakistani.
The Pakistani firm replied their account have been impersonated too.
90% of the people ask questions on mail list and
reply to rehearsed answers.
I have done the crawling and now I am in the process of walking
just about to run.
With regard to Bank ---
Their cake and they will have to eat it!
The question was an attitude test
i.e. Know your enemy!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter A. J. Pilgrim" <pe...@xenonsoft.demon.co.uk>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 2:26 AM
Subject: Re: This guy from the bank raised a question ?
> Zahid Rahman wrote:
> > Eddie Bush wrote that the designer of the architecture, Craig R.
> > McClannahan is present on this line.
> >
> > I was on the websphere line and Don Carlos, from DB.COM was talking
about
> > it.
> > So I mentioned it.
> >
>
> Although this late in the day, because I catching up 2500 emails after
> configuring my SOHO network for ADSL, I will respond
>
> Well it isn't surprised that you got DISSED in the end.
> And your type of attitude stinks to the extreme.
> This is the 21st century mate, we are using the Internet
> a form that makes culture and race and dare I say colour
> very transparent. This is the great equaliser or super
> highway isn't it. I dont appreciate your patronising
> talks on race or culture and for the record, slavery
> (in the United States at least) was banned over hundred
> years ago.
>
> "What do you do about the back button on the browser ?
> The answer being nothing."
>
> Your prose reveals your inexperience and ineptitude in all
> things HTML / HTTP and Java Server side technologies to the real
> experts on the list, the technologists who have and are living at
> the bleeding bloody edge. You should really calm down and
> spend time learning the technology better. How it works?
> Why people use it? How people used it to solve real problems?
> What are trying to solve? Does the technology fit the
> bill, is it the right solution?
> You cannot pick up this information , no I say, knowledge
> from a quick read of marketing department sales broshures.
> You cannot get it right, if you repeat the latest
> business lingo "in terms of ...", "in terms ....".
> Your project will fail if simply dont understand the mode
> (as in the french meaning "fashion").
> This is open source dealing with real people with real life.
> This is where real "cultural diversity" is truly happening,
> fool. This is where the real "synergies" are?
> This is not human resources department.
> This is not a boardroom meeting of stuffy highly over-paid
> executives, although I'd gladly accept the wages from those guys.
> This is the boiler room or the mechanics garage or the engineering
> facility where people get their hands routinely dirty.
> Learn to crawl, before you walk, before you run.
>
> PS: And this from a ex-Deutsche bank employmee. It really
> does show that DB.com still don't know their left hand from
> their right foot, but there you go. It .... happens, if
> the belief, culture and the motivation stagnates, and you lay off
> the really brillaint IT people in your organisation.
>
> --
> Peter Pilgrim +-----\ +-++----++----+
> Java Technologist | | | || || | 'n' Shine
> | O | | || --+| ---+
> /\ | ._ / | | \ \ | |
> / \ | | \ \ | |+-- || ---+ A new day
> /_ _\ "Up" | | | | | || || | is coming
> || +-+ +-+ +-++----++----+
> <home page="http://www.xenonsoft.demon.co.uk/" />
>
>
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> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
<ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
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RE: [OT] Excuse me !
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@telocity.com>.
Let's take this offline guys.
James Mitchell
Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zahid Rahman [mailto:zahidr@btconnect.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 9:51 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Excuse me !
>
>
> I happen to know three different architectures for web applications.
> Yes, I know Branching statements is an old fashioned saying.
>
> With regard to race!
> The very first time I logged on, my account was impersonated!!!
> Although I originate from the UK.
> I pointed out to a Pakistani company that I am a Pakistani.
> The Pakistani firm replied their account have been impersonated too.
>
> 90% of the people ask questions on mail list and
> reply to rehearsed answers.
>
> I have done the crawling and now I am in the process of walking
> just about to run.
>
> With regard to Bank ---
> Their cake and they will have to eat it!
>
> The question was an attitude test
> i.e. Know your enemy!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter A. J. Pilgrim" <pe...@xenonsoft.demon.co.uk>
> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 2:26 AM
> Subject: Re: This guy from the bank raised a question ?
>
>
> > Zahid Rahman wrote:
> > > Eddie Bush wrote that the designer of the architecture, Craig R.
> > > McClannahan is present on this line.
> > >
> > > I was on the websphere line and Don Carlos, from DB.COM was talking
> about
> > > it.
> > > So I mentioned it.
> > >
> >
> > Although this late in the day, because I catching up 2500 emails after
> > configuring my SOHO network for ADSL, I will respond
> >
> > Well it isn't surprised that you got DISSED in the end.
> > And your type of attitude stinks to the extreme.
> > This is the 21st century mate, we are using the Internet
> > a form that makes culture and race and dare I say colour
> > very transparent. This is the great equaliser or super
> > highway isn't it. I dont appreciate your patronising
> > talks on race or culture and for the record, slavery
> > (in the United States at least) was banned over hundred
> > years ago.
> >
> > "What do you do about the back button on the browser ?
> > The answer being nothing."
> >
> > Your prose reveals your inexperience and ineptitude in all
> > things HTML / HTTP and Java Server side technologies to the real
> > experts on the list, the technologists who have and are living at
> > the bleeding bloody edge. You should really calm down and
> > spend time learning the technology better. How it works?
> > Why people use it? How people used it to solve real problems?
> > What are trying to solve? Does the technology fit the
> > bill, is it the right solution?
> > You cannot pick up this information , no I say, knowledge
> > from a quick read of marketing department sales broshures.
> > You cannot get it right, if you repeat the latest
> > business lingo "in terms of ...", "in terms ....".
> > Your project will fail if simply dont understand the mode
> > (as in the french meaning "fashion").
> > This is open source dealing with real people with real life.
> > This is where real "cultural diversity" is truly happening,
> > fool. This is where the real "synergies" are?
> > This is not human resources department.
> > This is not a boardroom meeting of stuffy highly over-paid
> > executives, although I'd gladly accept the wages from those guys.
> > This is the boiler room or the mechanics garage or the engineering
> > facility where people get their hands routinely dirty.
> > Learn to crawl, before you walk, before you run.
> >
> > PS: And this from a ex-Deutsche bank employmee. It really
> > does show that DB.com still don't know their left hand from
> > their right foot, but there you go. It .... happens, if
> > the belief, culture and the motivation stagnates, and you lay off
> > the really brillaint IT people in your organisation.
> >
> > --
> > Peter Pilgrim +-----\ +-++----++----+
> > Java Technologist | | | || || | 'n' Shine
> > | O | | || --+| ---+
> > /\ | ._ / | | \ \ | |
> > / \ | | \ \ | |+-- || ---+ A new day
> > /_ _\ "Up" | | | | | || || | is coming
> > || +-+ +-+ +-++----++----+
> > <home page="http://www.xenonsoft.demon.co.uk/" />
> >
> >
> > --
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> <ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > For additional commands, e-mail:
> <ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
> >
>
>
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