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Posted to dev@cayenne.apache.org by Malcolm Edgar <ma...@gmail.com> on 2006/06/06 01:44:26 UTC
MPO ORM GUI
Hi All,
There is a payware ORM product featured on TSS called MPO.
http://www.ribesoftware.com/mpo.do
This product has a nice way of specifying object relationships, good
place to look for some inspiration:
http://www.ribesoftware.com/mpo/documentation/viewDemo.jsp?title=MPO+overview&demo=first
regards Malcolm Edgar
Re: MPO ORM GUI
Posted by Malcolm Edgar <ma...@gmail.com>.
On 6/8/06, Cris Daniluk <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Looks like Cayenne for Dummies to me :)
>
> Seriously, though, do people want this kind of modeler? I personally
> like the more technical, but still intuitive modeler.
>
> On 6/5/06, Malcolm Edgar <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > There is a payware ORM product featured on TSS called MPO.
> >
> > http://www.ribesoftware.com/mpo.do
> >
> > This product has a nice way of specifying object relationships, good
> > place to look for some inspiration:
> >
> > http://www.ribesoftware.com/mpo/documentation/viewDemo.jsp?title=MPO+overview&demo=first
> >
> > regards Malcolm Edgar
> >
>
Yes its pretty simple, but I think that is a good thing. I intially
found building relationships in Cayenne a trial and error process
until I figured out how it works, it is not that intiutive.
regards Malcolm Edgar
Re: MPO ORM GUI
Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
While I was not impressed by MPO either, I recognize the need to
simplify the mapping of relationships in CM. IIRC there was a Jira
issue on that topic, but we had to postpone it since 1.2 was
overloaded as is. We'll revisit it at some point.
Andrus
On Jun 8, 2006, at 5:55 AM, Cris Daniluk wrote:
> Looks like Cayenne for Dummies to me :)
>
> Seriously, though, do people want this kind of modeler? I personally
> like the more technical, but still intuitive modeler.
>
> On 6/5/06, Malcolm Edgar <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> There is a payware ORM product featured on TSS called MPO.
>>
>> http://www.ribesoftware.com/mpo.do
>>
>> This product has a nice way of specifying object relationships, good
>> place to look for some inspiration:
>>
>> http://www.ribesoftware.com/mpo/documentation/viewDemo.jsp?
>> title=MPO+overview&demo=first
>>
>> regards Malcolm Edgar
>>
>
Re: MPO ORM GUI
Posted by Ahmed Mohombe <am...@yahoo.com>.
>> Looks like Cayenne for Dummies to me :)
>>
>> Seriously, though, do people want this kind of modeler? I personally
>> like the more technical, but still intuitive modeler.
>>
>> On 6/5/06, Malcolm Edgar
>> <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > There is a payware ORM product featured on TSS called MPO.
>> >
>> > http://www.ribesoftware.com/mpo.do
>> >
>> > This product has a nice way of specifying object relationships, good
>> > place to look for some inspiration:
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.ribesoftware.com/mpo/documentation/viewDemo.jsp?title=MPO+overview&demo=first
>>
>
> Yes its pretty simple, but I think that is a good thing. I intially
> found building relationships in Cayenne a trial and error process
> until I figured out how it works, it is not that intiutive.
Exactly my experience too :). IMHO relationships could be done simpler with CM. For
the many2many(flattened) case not to mention: I(and nobody I asked) was not able to do it without
having the documentation side by side with the modeler.
Ahmed.
RE: MPO ORM GUI
Posted by "Gentry, Michael (Contractor)" <mi...@fanniemae.com>.
Of course, we can always look at other products for inspiration. I
still think EOModeler is one of the best overall for layout/etc. The
MPO UI looks clean, but takes up way too much space. Imagine a model
with 100+ classes in it and each attribute taking up a row ...
/dev/mrg
-----Original Message-----
From: Gentry, Michael (Contractor) [mailto:michael_gentry@fanniemae.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:31 AM
To: cayenne-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: MPO ORM GUI
I like, in the demo link, "First. To create a new class, just click the
'New class' button. It's easy, isn't it?" I wish we had a new class
button. Then we could be easy, too. :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Cris Daniluk [mailto:cris.daniluk@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 9:55 PM
To: cayenne-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: MPO ORM GUI
Looks like Cayenne for Dummies to me :)
Seriously, though, do people want this kind of modeler? I personally
like the more technical, but still intuitive modeler.
On 6/5/06, Malcolm Edgar <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> There is a payware ORM product featured on TSS called MPO.
>
> http://www.ribesoftware.com/mpo.do
>
> This product has a nice way of specifying object relationships, good
> place to look for some inspiration:
>
>
http://www.ribesoftware.com/mpo/documentation/viewDemo.jsp?title=MPO+ove
rview&demo=first
>
> regards Malcolm Edgar
>
RE: MPO ORM GUI
Posted by "Gentry, Michael (Contractor)" <mi...@fanniemae.com>.
I like, in the demo link, "First. To create a new class, just click the
'New class' button. It's easy, isn't it?" I wish we had a new class
button. Then we could be easy, too. :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Cris Daniluk [mailto:cris.daniluk@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 9:55 PM
To: cayenne-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: MPO ORM GUI
Looks like Cayenne for Dummies to me :)
Seriously, though, do people want this kind of modeler? I personally
like the more technical, but still intuitive modeler.
On 6/5/06, Malcolm Edgar <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> There is a payware ORM product featured on TSS called MPO.
>
> http://www.ribesoftware.com/mpo.do
>
> This product has a nice way of specifying object relationships, good
> place to look for some inspiration:
>
>
http://www.ribesoftware.com/mpo/documentation/viewDemo.jsp?title=MPO+ove
rview&demo=first
>
> regards Malcolm Edgar
>
Re: MPO ORM GUI
Posted by Cris Daniluk <cr...@gmail.com>.
Looks like Cayenne for Dummies to me :)
Seriously, though, do people want this kind of modeler? I personally
like the more technical, but still intuitive modeler.
On 6/5/06, Malcolm Edgar <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> There is a payware ORM product featured on TSS called MPO.
>
> http://www.ribesoftware.com/mpo.do
>
> This product has a nice way of specifying object relationships, good
> place to look for some inspiration:
>
> http://www.ribesoftware.com/mpo/documentation/viewDemo.jsp?title=MPO+overview&demo=first
>
> regards Malcolm Edgar
>