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[jira] [Created] (COUCHDB-1593) Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04

Robert Newson created COUCHDB-1593:
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             Summary: Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04
                 Key: COUCHDB-1593
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-1593
             Project: CouchDB
          Issue Type: Improvement
            Reporter: Robert Newson
             Fix For: 1.3


Let's ensure that all 1.3.0 installations have snappy and ejson by insisting that all builds use R13B04 or higher.

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[jira] [Commented] (COUCHDB-1593) Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04

Posted by "Benoit Chesneau (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Benoit Chesneau commented on COUCHDB-1593:
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https://www.erlang-solutions.com/downloads/download-erlang-otp has a backport of r15b02 for 10.04 ...
                
> Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04
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>                 Key: COUCHDB-1593
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-1593
>             Project: CouchDB
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Robert Newson
>            Assignee: Robert Newson
>            Priority: Blocker
>             Fix For: 1.3
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> Let's ensure that all 1.3.0 installations have snappy and ejson by insisting that all builds use R13B04 or higher.

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[jira] [Commented] (COUCHDB-1593) Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04

Posted by "Jan Lehnardt (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Jan Lehnardt commented on COUCHDB-1593:
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I wouldn’t mind bumping it up to saner releases. We just need to square it against the install base on popular platforms. This should be easy to find out with a crowdsourcing request to user@.
                
> Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04
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>                 Key: COUCHDB-1593
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-1593
>             Project: CouchDB
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Robert Newson
>            Assignee: Robert Newson
>            Priority: Blocker
>             Fix For: 1.3
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> Let's ensure that all 1.3.0 installations have snappy and ejson by insisting that all builds use R13B04 or higher.

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[jira] [Commented] (COUCHDB-1593) Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04

Posted by "Adam Kocoloski (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Adam Kocoloski commented on COUCHDB-1593:
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Sadly Ubuntu 10.04 LTS uses 13B03.  I know there's a newer LTS out there but I'd wager 10.04 is still pretty popular.  I wonder if we could finagle a backport of something better?
                
> Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04
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>                 Key: COUCHDB-1593
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-1593
>             Project: CouchDB
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Robert Newson
>            Assignee: Robert Newson
>            Priority: Blocker
>             Fix For: 1.3
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> Let's ensure that all 1.3.0 installations have snappy and ejson by insisting that all builds use R13B04 or higher.

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[jira] [Commented] (COUCHDB-1593) Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04

Posted by "Benoit Chesneau (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Benoit Chesneau commented on COUCHDB-1593:
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any reason to not go to R14B04 then ? Or direct to r15 ? What are the distributions that still use r13b04 or don't have alternate  stable repo for a such versions?
                
> Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04
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>                 Key: COUCHDB-1593
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-1593
>             Project: CouchDB
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Robert Newson
>             Fix For: 1.3
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> Let's ensure that all 1.3.0 installations have snappy and ejson by insisting that all builds use R13B04 or higher.

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[jira] [Commented] (COUCHDB-1593) Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04

Posted by "Robert Newson (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Robert Newson commented on COUCHDB-1593:
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Ideally we'd say R14B03 as the minimum, since that's past the only known DOA release ("R14B02"), but R13B04 is the true minimum.
                
> Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04
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>                 Key: COUCHDB-1593
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-1593
>             Project: CouchDB
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Robert Newson
>            Assignee: Robert Newson
>            Priority: Blocker
>             Fix For: 1.3
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> Let's ensure that all 1.3.0 installations have snappy and ejson by insisting that all builds use R13B04 or higher.

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[jira] [Commented] (COUCHDB-1593) Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04

Posted by "Adam Kocoloski (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Adam Kocoloski commented on COUCHDB-1593:
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The challenge with the backport that Benoit identified will come if an Ubuntu maintainer wants to update the version of CouchDB in lucid-backports from 1.0.1 to something more modern.  I don't think depending on a third party Erlang outside of the Ubuntu ecosystem will be kosher.

The ESL package would be perfectly fine for a user who wanted to build CouchDB 1.3 from our release artifact on an Ubuntu 10.04 system.
                
> Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04
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>                 Key: COUCHDB-1593
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-1593
>             Project: CouchDB
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Robert Newson
>            Assignee: Robert Newson
>            Priority: Blocker
>             Fix For: 1.3
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> Let's ensure that all 1.3.0 installations have snappy and ejson by insisting that all builds use R13B04 or higher.

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[jira] [Commented] (COUCHDB-1593) Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04

Posted by "Jan Lehnardt (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Jan Lehnardt commented on COUCHDB-1593:
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Octavian, we are not looking to drop 10.04, we are just trying understanding what the real world situation is. Thanks for sharing the info about the LTS timeframe.

Is the back port that Benoit pointed to an adequate solution?
                
> Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04
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>                 Key: COUCHDB-1593
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-1593
>             Project: CouchDB
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Robert Newson
>            Assignee: Robert Newson
>            Priority: Blocker
>             Fix For: 1.3
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[jira] [Updated] (COUCHDB-1593) Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04

Posted by "Jan Lehnardt (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Jan Lehnardt updated COUCHDB-1593:
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    Priority: Blocker  (was: Major)

Marking this as a blocker, we should sort out what the minimum required version for 1.3.x is and document that accordingly. Currently it says R12B5. We should test if that is still true.
                
> Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04
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>                 Key: COUCHDB-1593
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-1593
>             Project: CouchDB
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Robert Newson
>            Priority: Blocker
>             Fix For: 1.3
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Re: [jira] [Commented] (COUCHDB-1593) Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04

Posted by "john.tiger" <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 11/29/2012 04:05 AM, Robert Newson (JIRA) wrote:
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> Robert Newson commented on COUCHDB-1593:
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> imo, no. Requiring R13B04 means we don't support Ubuntu 10.04, even if there's a workaround (backporting).

huh? even Ubuntu LTS is now 12.04   Debian Wheezy might be a better 
target.   Meanwhile Couchdb could use whatever performance gains it can 
get.  I'm understanding logic here less and less.


>
> I guess we're stuck with the status quo for now.
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>> Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04
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>>                  Key: COUCHDB-1593
>>                  URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-1593
>>              Project: CouchDB
>>           Issue Type: Improvement
>>             Reporter: Robert Newson
>>             Assignee: Robert Newson
>>             Priority: Blocker
>>              Fix For: 1.3
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>> Let's ensure that all 1.3.0 installations have snappy and ejson by insisting that all builds use R13B04 or higher.
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[jira] [Commented] (COUCHDB-1593) Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04

Posted by "Robert Newson (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Robert Newson commented on COUCHDB-1593:
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imo, no. Requiring R13B04 means we don't support Ubuntu 10.04, even if there's a workaround (backporting).

I guess we're stuck with the status quo for now.

                
> Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04
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>                 Key: COUCHDB-1593
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-1593
>             Project: CouchDB
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Robert Newson
>            Assignee: Robert Newson
>            Priority: Blocker
>             Fix For: 1.3
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> Let's ensure that all 1.3.0 installations have snappy and ejson by insisting that all builds use R13B04 or higher.

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[jira] [Commented] (COUCHDB-1593) Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04

Posted by "Robert Newson (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Robert Newson commented on COUCHDB-1593:
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I don't think we wait until 2015 to do this. Lucid itself will stick with 0.10.0, so it's only the lucid-backports repository that will be broken (or required to also backport a newer erlang).

So, on reflection, I'm ok with requiring R13B04 for the 1.3 release. We've gathered information ahead of time and know what will break. lucid-backports would need to backport R13B04 (from R13B03) which seems uncontroversial. It's also pretty unlikely that lucid-backports will bump at all, it's on 1.0.1 now after all (1.0.2, 1.0.3, 1.1.0, 1.1.1 and 1.2.0 have been released since).

                
> Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04
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>                 Key: COUCHDB-1593
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-1593
>             Project: CouchDB
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Robert Newson
>            Assignee: Robert Newson
>            Priority: Blocker
>             Fix For: 1.3
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> Let's ensure that all 1.3.0 installations have snappy and ejson by insisting that all builds use R13B04 or higher.

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[jira] [Closed] (COUCHDB-1593) Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04

Posted by "Jan Lehnardt (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Jan Lehnardt closed COUCHDB-1593.
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    Resolution: Fixed
    
> Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04
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>                 Key: COUCHDB-1593
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-1593
>             Project: CouchDB
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Robert Newson
>            Assignee: Robert Newson
>            Priority: Blocker
>             Fix For: 1.3
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[jira] [Commented] (COUCHDB-1593) Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04

Posted by "Octavian Damiean (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Octavian Damiean commented on COUCHDB-1593:
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10.04 LTS is not only still quite popular it is going to be supported until 29. April 2013 for desktops and until 29. April 2015 for servers. So dropping support for it wouldn't really be a good idea in my opinion.
                
> Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04
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>                 Key: COUCHDB-1593
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-1593
>             Project: CouchDB
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Robert Newson
>            Assignee: Robert Newson
>            Priority: Blocker
>             Fix For: 1.3
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> Let's ensure that all 1.3.0 installations have snappy and ejson by insisting that all builds use R13B04 or higher.

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[jira] [Assigned] (COUCHDB-1593) Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04

Posted by "Randall Leeds (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Randall Leeds reassigned COUCHDB-1593:
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    Assignee: Robert Newson
    
> Raise erlang/OTP minimum version to R13B04
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>                 Key: COUCHDB-1593
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-1593
>             Project: CouchDB
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Robert Newson
>            Assignee: Robert Newson
>            Priority: Blocker
>             Fix For: 1.3
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> Let's ensure that all 1.3.0 installations have snappy and ejson by insisting that all builds use R13B04 or higher.

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