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can't open 2 programs at once
I start by going to my desktop Open Office icon and clicking and I get
the usual 8 choices of programs. If I have open either a new text
document I can not click on the icon and open a new spreadsheet. And
vice versa.
Clicking on the AOO icon while one program is open makes the icon
inoperable to select and open any other new program.
How can I have open a spreadsheet and then open a new text document
program at the same time? Or vice versa?
Re: can't open 2 programs at once
Posted by Brian Barker <b....@btinternet.com>.
At 10:26 06/06/2016 -0700, Ron Patterson wrote:
>I start by going to my desktop Open Office icon and clicking and I
>get the usual 8 choices of programs.
These are not separate programs but different types of document all
able to be handled by the single OpenOffice program.
>If I have open either a new text document I can not click on the
>icon and open a new spreadsheet. And vice versa.
You can - but not by going back to the start screen you describe.
>Clicking on the AOO icon while one program is open makes the icon
>inoperable to select and open any other new program.
Like most modern programs, OpenOffice detects that it is already open
and invites you to reuse the existing instance instead of
(wastefully) creating a separate instance.
>How can I have open a spreadsheet and then open a new text document
>program at the same time? Or vice versa?
Simple: go to File | New > or click the down-arrow to the right of
the New button in the Standard toolbar. You will see the menu of
available document file types.
Note that OpenOffice is an integrated suite, unlike some products
such as Microsoft Office - which is merely a collection of separate programs.
I trust this helps.
Brian Barker
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Re: can't open 2 programs at once
Posted by Ron Patterson <a....@mindspring.com>.
Thanks Rory, works a charm. I had mistakenly assumed that the NEW would
only open another file within the program I was using.
Ron
On 6/6/2016 10:36 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 10:26:45 -0700
> Ron Patterson <a....@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> I start by going to my desktop Open Office icon and clicking and I get
>> the usual 8 choices of programs. If I have open either a new text
>> document I can not click on the icon and open a new spreadsheet. And
>> vice versa.
>>
>> Clicking on the AOO icon while one program is open makes the icon
>> inoperable to select and open any other new program.
>>
>> How can I have open a spreadsheet and then open a new text document
>> program at the same time? Or vice versa?
> When you have a file open in OpenOffice try /File /New or /File Open.
>
Re: can't open 2 programs at once
Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 10:26:45 -0700
Ron Patterson <a....@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I start by going to my desktop Open Office icon and clicking and I get
> the usual 8 choices of programs. If I have open either a new text
> document I can not click on the icon and open a new spreadsheet. And
> vice versa.
>
> Clicking on the AOO icon while one program is open makes the icon
> inoperable to select and open any other new program.
>
> How can I have open a spreadsheet and then open a new text document
> program at the same time? Or vice versa?
When you have a file open in OpenOffice try /File /New or /File Open.
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Re: can't open 2 programs at once
Posted by nasrin khaksar <na...@gmail.com>.
hi.
thanks so much for your question. its my question too!
but i am not shure which settings you should change or which operating
systems support it!
my solution is only openning the specific program you need separately.
On 6/7/16, Girvin R. Herr <gh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
> On 06/06/2016 11:58 AM, jd1008 wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 06/06/2016 12:53 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:
>>> jd1008 schrieb:
>>> [..]
>>>> One way is to simply click on file -> open ... and open the text
>>>> document in question - you do not need the 8 choice
>>>> menu all over again - however, and unfortunately, aoo does not seem to
>>>> support multiple instances of it to be
>>>> running simultaneously.
>>>
>>> AOO does support running multiple instances, but that is not the
>>> right solution for Ron.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Regina
>>>
>> As has been explained already, windows supports multiple (separate)
>> windows of aoo, each
>> viewing and editing some file.
>>
>> Linux does not support that.
>>
>>
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>
> Actually, Aoo does support multiple instances of the same file open,
> probably irregardless of OS. I don't know about other OSs, but it works
> in Linux. Try Window | New Window. The file you do that on will open a
> separate window (file instance) with the same file. The window header
> shows <file> : 2 for the second instance. What more could you ask for?
>
> I seem to remember there was a way to split the window into 2 fields
> with separate scroll bars for each, to look at/edit a file in different
> places, but I cannot find it now. Maybe someone else knows how to do that.
>
> I just did a further test, modifying the first instance and checking the
> second instance to verify that the change was propagated. It was. I
> can also save the changes in either instance, so the file is not locked
> nor set read-only by creating another instance.
>
> As a side note on multiple AOO instances running at the same time, there
> once was an *OO version that ran on multi-user systems. That had to run
> multiple instances of *OO, one for each user on the same computer. I am
> not sure if there is a separate version for that, or that the *OO
> configuration can be modified to allow that, or the current version no
> longer supports that. I have never had a need for it, even though
> Linux, for one, is a multi-user, multi-tasking OS that is fully capable
> of it.
>
> HTH
> Girvin Herr
>
>
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Re: can't open 2 programs at once
Posted by "Girvin R. Herr" <gh...@sbcglobal.net>.
On 06/06/2016 11:58 AM, jd1008 wrote:
>
>
> On 06/06/2016 12:53 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:
>> jd1008 schrieb:
>> [..]
>>> One way is to simply click on file -> open ... and open the text
>>> document in question - you do not need the 8 choice
>>> menu all over again - however, and unfortunately, aoo does not seem to
>>> support multiple instances of it to be
>>> running simultaneously.
>>
>> AOO does support running multiple instances, but that is not the
>> right solution for Ron.
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Regina
>>
> As has been explained already, windows supports multiple (separate)
> windows of aoo, each
> viewing and editing some file.
>
> Linux does not support that.
>
>
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Actually, Aoo does support multiple instances of the same file open,
probably irregardless of OS. I don't know about other OSs, but it works
in Linux. Try Window | New Window. The file you do that on will open a
separate window (file instance) with the same file. The window header
shows <file> : 2 for the second instance. What more could you ask for?
I seem to remember there was a way to split the window into 2 fields
with separate scroll bars for each, to look at/edit a file in different
places, but I cannot find it now. Maybe someone else knows how to do that.
I just did a further test, modifying the first instance and checking the
second instance to verify that the change was propagated. It was. I
can also save the changes in either instance, so the file is not locked
nor set read-only by creating another instance.
As a side note on multiple AOO instances running at the same time, there
once was an *OO version that ran on multi-user systems. That had to run
multiple instances of *OO, one for each user on the same computer. I am
not sure if there is a separate version for that, or that the *OO
configuration can be modified to allow that, or the current version no
longer supports that. I have never had a need for it, even though
Linux, for one, is a multi-user, multi-tasking OS that is fully capable
of it.
HTH
Girvin Herr
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Re: can't open 2 programs at once
Posted by jd1008 <jd...@gmail.com>.
On 06/06/2016 12:53 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:
> jd1008 schrieb:
> [..]
>> One way is to simply click on file -> open ... and open the text
>> document in question - you do not need the 8 choice
>> menu all over again - however, and unfortunately, aoo does not seem to
>> support multiple instances of it to be
>> running simultaneously.
>
> AOO does support running multiple instances, but that is not the right
> solution for Ron.
>
> Kind regards
> Regina
>
As has been explained already, windows supports multiple (separate)
windows of aoo, each
viewing and editing some file.
Linux does not support that.
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Re: can't open 2 programs at once
Posted by Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>.
jd1008 schrieb:
[..]
> One way is to simply click on file -> open ... and open the text
> document in question - you do not need the 8 choice
> menu all over again - however, and unfortunately, aoo does not seem to
> support multiple instances of it to be
> running simultaneously.
AOO does support running multiple instances, but that is not the right
solution for Ron.
Kind regards
Regina
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Re: can't open 2 programs at once
Posted by Dale Erwin <da...@casaerwin.org>.
On 6/6/2016 12:59 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> One way is to simply click on file -> open ... and open the text
> document in question - you do not need the 8 choice
> menu all over again - however, and unfortunately, aoo does not seem to
> support multiple instances of it to be
> running simultaneously.
You don't need multiple instances of the program. The same instance of
the program can open multiple documents at the same time.
Dale
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Re: can't open 2 programs at once
Posted by jd1008 <jd...@gmail.com>.
On 06/06/2016 11:26 AM, Ron Patterson wrote:
> I start by going to my desktop Open Office icon and clicking and I get
> the usual 8 choices of programs. If I have open either a new text
> document I can not click on the icon and open a new spreadsheet. And
> vice versa.
>
> Clicking on the AOO icon while one program is open makes the icon
> inoperable to select and open any other new program.
>
> How can I have open a spreadsheet and then open a new text document
> program at the same time? Or vice versa?
>
One way is to simply click on file -> open ... and open the text
document in question - you do not need the 8 choice
menu all over again - however, and unfortunately, aoo does not seem to
support multiple instances of it to be
running simultaneously.
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Re: can't open 2 programs at once
Posted by jd1008 <jd...@gmail.com>.
On 06/06/2016 11:26 AM, Ron Patterson wrote:
> I start by going to my desktop Open Office icon and clicking and I get
> the usual 8 choices of programs. If I have open either a new text
> document I can not click on the icon and open a new spreadsheet. And
> vice versa.
>
> Clicking on the AOO icon while one program is open makes the icon
> inoperable to select and open any other new program.
>
> How can I have open a spreadsheet and then open a new text document
> program at the same time? Or vice versa?
>
It does NOT make the icon inoperable.
It DOES run the program's preamble code, which detects that it is
already running and exits.
I believe this is a slight shortcoming of the program.
It should allow running multiple instances of it.
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Re: can't open 2 programs at once
Posted by Ron Patterson <a....@mindspring.com>.
Thanks Brian - now I understand the reasoning behind this approach.
On 6/6/2016 10:45 AM, Brian Barker wrote:
> At 10:26 06/06/2016 -0700, Ron Patterson wrote:
>> I start by going to my desktop Open Office icon and clicking and I
>> get the usual 8 choices of programs.
>
> These are not separate programs but different types of document all
> able to be handled by the single OpenOffice program.
>
>> If I have open either a new text document I can not click on the icon
>> and open a new spreadsheet. And vice versa.
>
> You can - but not by going back to the start screen you describe.
>
>> Clicking on the AOO icon while one program is open makes the icon
>> inoperable to select and open any other new program.
>
> Like most modern programs, OpenOffice detects that it is already open
> and invites you to reuse the existing instance instead of (wastefully)
> creating a separate instance.
>
>> How can I have open a spreadsheet and then open a new text document
>> program at the same time? Or vice versa?
>
> Simple: go to File | New > or click the down-arrow to the right of the
> New button in the Standard toolbar. You will see the menu of available
> document file types.
>
> Note that OpenOffice is an integrated suite, unlike some products such
> as Microsoft Office - which is merely a collection of separate programs.
>
> I trust this helps.
>
> Brian Barker
>
>
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Re: can't open 2 programs at once
Posted by Brian Barker <b....@btinternet.com>.
At 11:58 06/06/2016 -0600, Jonly Donly wrote:
>... there is a great convenience in letting the user run multiple
>instances of it in order (for example) to view differences between
>multiple versions of a document in parallel. This is so incredibly
>useful for people running aoo on computers with very large high
>resolution screens, like mine.
You are missing the point here. If you open multiple documents, such
as your multiple versions of the same document, in the same instance
of OpenOffice, you have separate windows - and you can resize and
reposition these to be able to see, compare, scroll, edit the
documents, and so on independently and simultaneously. That's just
like the separate windows you would see from separate instances of the program.
What else are you expecting?
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Re: can't open 2 programs at once
Posted by Brian Barker <b....@btinternet.com>.
At 19:46 06/06/2016 +0100, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>MS Office uses Multiple Document Interface which allows multiple
>windows from the same application. Because of the support for
>multiple operating systems, OpenOffice uses Single Document
>Interface, as the MDI code was not/Is not available across the
>multiple platforms.
In my version for Windows, if I open two document files in OpenOffice
I see two windows which can be manipulated separately. What am I
missing? Is it that - as has been suggested by another - that this
works for Windows but not for all operating systems? If so, I now see
the problem experienced by Linux users. Mind you, the solution is obvious ...
;^)
Brian Barker
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Re: can't open 2 programs at once
Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Mon, 06 Jun 2016 12:35:15 -0600
jd1008 <jd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 06/06/2016 12:23 PM, Brian Barker wrote:
> > At 11:58 06/06/2016 -0600, Jonly Donly wrote:
> >> ... there is a great convenience in letting the user run multiple
> >> instances of it in order (for example) to view differences between
> >> multiple versions of a document in parallel. This is so incredibly
> >> useful for people running aoo on computers with very large high
> >> resolution screens, like mine.
> >
> > You are missing the point here. If you open multiple documents, such
> > as your multiple versions of the same document, in the same instance
> > of OpenOffice, you have separate windows - and you can resize and
> > reposition these to be able to see, compare, scroll, edit the
> > documents, and so on independently and simultaneously. That's just
> > like the separate windows you would see from separate instances of the
> > program.
> >
> 1. You misquote who wrote the statement. Why do you keep doing that?
> John Donly did not post it. I did.
> 2. On linux, there is only one aoo window, not multiple windows for
> multiple versions of some file.
> Sure would like to see an explanation how to get those multiple
> windows on linux.
>
> > What else are you expecting?
> >
> > Brian Barker
MS Office uses Multiple Document Interface which allows multiple windows from the same application. Because of the support for multiple operating systems, OpenOffice uses Single Document Interface, as the MDI code was not/Is not available across the multiple platforms.
As the source code is freely available, if you require this feature you could implement it, if it be implementable - available code libraries might have changed and this functionality might now be available.
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Re: can't open 2 programs at once
Posted by Brian Barker <b....@btinternet.com>.
At 12:35 06/06/2016 -0600, Jonly Donly wrote:
>You misquote who wrote the statement.
Sorry, but I didn't: it was definitely you.
>Jonly Donly did not post it.
Oh, s/he surely did.
>I did.
Sorry, but I cannot call you "I", as I would need to say "I wrote it"
- and that would definitely be wrong!
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Re: can't open 2 programs at once
Posted by James Plante <ji...@me.com>.
> On Jun 6, 2016, at 1:55 PM, jd1008 <jd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 06/06/2016 12:45 PM, James Plante wrote:
>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 1:35 PM, jd1008 <jd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 1. You misquote who wrote the statement. Why do you keep doing that? John Donly did not post it. I did.
>> That’s his mail client’s doing, not Brian’s. It’s saying that [“J” only “D” only] wrote the post. Your initials. Get it?
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> Is the list server doing this?
> It is annoying.
>
No, it’s probably his mail client’s way of referencing e-mails. There’s likely nothing that can be done about it other than you changing your email name.
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Re: can't open 2 programs at once
Posted by jd1008 <jd...@gmail.com>.
On 06/06/2016 12:45 PM, James Plante wrote:
>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 1:35 PM, jd1008 <jd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 1. You misquote who wrote the statement. Why do you keep doing that? John Donly did not post it. I did.
> Thats his mail clients doing, not Brians. Its saying that [J only D only] wrote the post. Your initials. Get it?
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Is the list server doing this?
It is annoying.
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Re: can't open 2 programs at once
Posted by James Plante <ji...@me.com>.
> On Jun 6, 2016, at 1:35 PM, jd1008 <jd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 1. You misquote who wrote the statement. Why do you keep doing that? John Donly did not post it. I did.
That’s his mail client’s doing, not Brian’s. It’s saying that [“J” only “D” only] wrote the post. Your initials. Get it?
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Re: can't open 2 programs at once
Posted by Jim McLaughlin <jj...@gmail.com>.
Brian and JonlyDonly -
STOP. HITLER.
End this, please.
On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Brian Barker <b....@btinternet.com>
wrote:
> At 12:35 06/06/2016 -0600, Jonly Donly wrote:
>
>> You misquote who wrote the statement.
>>
>
> Sorry, but I didn't: it was definitely you.
>
> Jonly Donly did not post it.
>>
>
> Oh, s/he surely did.
>
> I did.
>>
>
> Sorry, but I cannot call you "I", as I would need to say "I wrote it" -
> and that would definitely be wrong!
>
>
> Brian Barker
>
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Re: can't open 2 programs at once
Posted by jd1008 <jd...@gmail.com>.
On 06/06/2016 12:23 PM, Brian Barker wrote:
> At 11:58 06/06/2016 -0600, Jonly Donly wrote:
>> ... there is a great convenience in letting the user run multiple
>> instances of it in order (for example) to view differences between
>> multiple versions of a document in parallel. This is so incredibly
>> useful for people running aoo on computers with very large high
>> resolution screens, like mine.
>
> You are missing the point here. If you open multiple documents, such
> as your multiple versions of the same document, in the same instance
> of OpenOffice, you have separate windows - and you can resize and
> reposition these to be able to see, compare, scroll, edit the
> documents, and so on independently and simultaneously. That's just
> like the separate windows you would see from separate instances of the
> program.
>
1. You misquote who wrote the statement. Why do you keep doing that?
John Donly did not post it. I did.
2. On linux, there is only one aoo window, not multiple windows for
multiple versions of some file.
Sure would like to see an explanation how to get those multiple
windows on linux.
> What else are you expecting?
>
> Brian Barker
>
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Re: can't open 2 programs at once
Posted by jd1008 <jd...@gmail.com>.
On 06/06/2016 11:45 AM, Brian Barker wrote:
> At 10:26 06/06/2016 -0700, Ron Patterson wrote:
>> I start by going to my desktop Open Office icon and clicking and I
>> get the usual 8 choices of programs.
>
> These are not separate programs but different types of document all
> able to be handled by the single OpenOffice program.
>
>> If I have open either a new text document I can not click on the icon
>> and open a new spreadsheet. And vice versa.
>
> You can - but not by going back to the start screen you describe.
>
>> Clicking on the AOO icon while one program is open makes the icon
>> inoperable to select and open any other new program.
>
> Like most modern programs, OpenOffice detects that it is already open
> and invites you to reuse the existing instance instead of (wastefully)
> creating a separate instance.
>
>> How can I have open a spreadsheet and then open a new text document
>> program at the same time? Or vice versa?
>
> Simple: go to File | New > or click the down-arrow to the right of the
> New button in the Standard toolbar. You will see the menu of available
> document file types.
>
> Note that OpenOffice is an integrated suite, unlike some products such
> as Microsoft Office - which is merely a collection of separate programs.
>
> I trust this helps.
>
> Brian Barker
Yet, there is a great convenience in letting the user run multiple
instances of it
in order (for example) to view differences between multiple versions of
a document
in parallel.
This is so incredibly useful for people running aoo on computers with
very large
high resolution screens, like mine.
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