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Posted to dev@httpd.apache.org by Jorge Schrauwen <jo...@gmail.com> on 2007/08/24 16:12:30 UTC
Blackdot.be (ApacheMon & ApacheMobile) - Questions sparked by the ApacheLounge fuss
Hi All,
As you know I've been lurking on here for quite a while (mostly only lurking
due to me not knowing C).
I have a website www.blackdot.be where I have a few apache tutorials and A
package called ApacheMobile (VC8 compiled of the asf src files) that fits
httpd 2.2, php, etc on a 256mb USB key. I also have ApacheMon which is a
small tray programs to well stop/start/restart, view logs,...
URL: http://www.blackdot.be/?inc=apache/monitor
http://www.blackdot.be/?inc=apache/mobile
Should I change these names to other things too to be safe? If so any ideas?
I can see ApacheMobile being something like ServerOnAStick or something. But
if I need to change them I have no idea what to call ApacheMon.
Any comments on this are welcome.
--
~Jorge
Re: Blackdot.be (ApacheMon & ApacheMobile) - Questions sparked by the ApacheLounge fuss
Posted by Jorge Schrauwen <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 8/24/07, Lars Eilebrecht <la...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> According to Jorge:
>
> > Should I change these names to other things too to be safe? If so any
> ideas?
> > I can see ApacheMobile being something like ServerOnAStick or something.
> But
> > if I need to change them I have no idea what to call ApacheMon.
> >
> > Any comments on this are welcome.
>
> This FAQ entry may answer your question:
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html#Name-changes
Ok seems I need to change them, I'll push the change when 2.2.6 is release
and I update WebServerOnAStick (formerly Apache Mobile).
If anyone has any ideas for a new name for ApacheMon... Please let me know
since I don't know any.
If I can't find any I'll simply remove it from the website since I haven't
updated in a while... and not sure if it is really usefull it only has +-
1600 downloads in over 2 years.
But you ask the public relations committee for permission
> (prc-at-apache.org).
>
> ciao...
> --
> Lars Eilebrecht
> lars@apache.org
>
>
>
--
~Jorge
Re: Blackdot.be (ApacheMon & ApacheMobile) - Questions sparked by the ApacheLounge fuss
Posted by Jorge Schrauwen <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 8/30/07, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Aug 30, 2007, at 10:39 AM, Jorge Schrauwen wrote:
>
> > On 8/30/07, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> > Sorry for the delay (with my PRC hat on). You should see
> > a reply as we speak :)
> >
> > No worries, but while I have attention let me hold on to it for a
> > bit longer ;)
> >
> > Regarding the disclaimer I asked about in my previous message.
> > Since you didn't give an answer to that in other message.
> >
>
> Regarding the disclaimer: the ASF (nor the httpd project nor the PRC)
> can give you legal advice on how to craft your disclaimer...
> It's really beyond our scope.
>
>
I'll just copy and past the one I have on the x64 binaries I have on there
then.
--
~Jorge
Re: Blackdot.be (ApacheMon & ApacheMobile) - Questions sparked by the ApacheLounge fuss
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
On Aug 30, 2007, at 10:39 AM, Jorge Schrauwen wrote:
> On 8/30/07, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> Sorry for the delay (with my PRC hat on). You should see
> a reply as we speak :)
>
> No worries, but while I have attention let me hold on to it for a
> bit longer ;)
>
> Regarding the disclaimer I asked about in my previous message.
> Since you didn't give an answer to that in other message.
>
Regarding the disclaimer: the ASF (nor the httpd project nor the PRC)
can give you legal advice on how to craft your disclaimer...
It's really beyond our scope.
Re: Blackdot.be (ApacheMon & ApacheMobile) - Questions sparked by the ApacheLounge fuss
Posted by Jorge Schrauwen <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 8/30/07, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry for the delay (with my PRC hat on). You should see
> a reply as we speak :)
No worries, but while I have attention let me hold on to it for a bit longer
;)
Regarding the disclaimer I asked about in my previous message. Since you
didn't give an answer to that in other message.
Kind Regards
Jorge
On Aug 30, 2007, at 10:00 AM, Jorge Schrauwen wrote:
>
> > Mail prc-at-apache.org but not reply yet but I'm in the process of
> > renaming all the stuff,
> > If they don't agree with the new name I'll do it again.
>
--
~Jorge
Re: Blackdot.be (ApacheMon & ApacheMobile) - Questions sparked by the ApacheLounge fuss
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
Sorry for the delay (with my PRC hat on). You should see
a reply as we speak :)
On Aug 30, 2007, at 10:00 AM, Jorge Schrauwen wrote:
> Mail prc-at-apache.org but not reply yet but I'm in the process of
> renaming all the stuff,
> If they don't agree with the new name I'll do it again.
Re: Blackdot.be (ApacheMon & ApacheMobile) - Questions sparked by
the ApacheLounge fuss
Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Jorge Schrauwen wrote:
>> I'd like to add an additional note to this but I'm unsure in how to
>> phrase it.
>> What I want to say is:
>> That I take the source tarball's that are posted e.g.
>> httpd-2.2.4-win32-src.zip (only official release no T&R, svn etc).
>>
>> I'd also like to knew if I need to add an additional disclaimer that I
>> don't offer any warranties if somehow (unlikely) manage to cost a
>> company huge sums of money and they want to sue me.
>
> If you simply note these are the officially released sources and you
> provide compiled binaries under the Apache License 2.0 (with no warranty
> as spelled out under that license), you should be in reasonably good shape.
>
> If you export from a country that has cryptographic export controls (e.g.
> computer programs-as-munitions) you should either avoid shipping any SSL
> components or be very careful to follow the export regulations.
And as Jim says, don't take this as legal advise, you are best to consult
with a lawyer, or a software redistributor in your country who's thoroughly
reviewed the issue of redistributing or building binaries of open source
software. Note there can be legal differences between a program source
code and a functioning, compiled program, depending on your jursidiction ;-)
Bill
Re: Blackdot.be (ApacheMon & ApacheMobile) - Questions sparked by
the ApacheLounge fuss
Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
Jorge Schrauwen wrote:
>
> I'd like to add an additional note to this but I'm unsure in how to
> phrase it.
> What I want to say is:
> That I take the source tarball's that are posted e.g.
> httpd-2.2.4-win32-src.zip (only official release no T&R, svn etc).
>
> I'd also like to knew if I need to add an additional disclaimer that I
> don't offer any warranties if somehow (unlikely) manage to cost a
> company huge sums of money and they want to sue me.
If you simply note these are the officially released sources and you
provide compiled binaries under the Apache License 2.0 (with no warranty
as spelled out under that license), you should be in reasonably good shape.
If you export from a country that has cryptographic export controls (e.g.
computer programs-as-munitions) you should either avoid shipping any SSL
components or be very careful to follow the export regulations.
Bill
Re: Blackdot.be (ApacheMon & ApacheMobile) - Questions sparked by the ApacheLounge fuss
Posted by Jorge Schrauwen <jo...@gmail.com>.
Mail prc-at-apache.org but not reply yet but I'm in the process of renaming
all the stuff,
If they don't agree with the new name I'll do it again. But I have a few
question.
--- readme.txt extract ---
What is it?
---------------------
HTTP Server On USB is a self contained webserver.
Based on Apache HTTPD Server. It comes with php, mod_ssl, mod_perl and
mod_security.
Simply drop your files into wwwroot, then your good to go!
--- end extract ---
I'd like to add an additional note to this but I'm unsure in how to phrase
it.
What I want to say is:
That I take the source tarball's that are posted e.g.
httpd-2.2.4-win32-src.zip (only official release no T&R, svn etc).
I'd also like to knew if I need to add an additional disclaimer that I don't
offer any warranties if somehow (unlikely) manage to cost a company huge
sums of money and they want to sue me.
I presume that since I compiled the code itself they can't point the finger
at the ASF so will come looking for me. (since my of my personal info is on
my CV on my site they'll find me in seconds).
Thanks for you time
Jorge
On 8/24/07, Lars Eilebrecht <la...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> According to Jorge:
>
> > Should I change these names to other things too to be safe? If so any
> ideas?
> > I can see ApacheMobile being something like ServerOnAStick or something.
> But
> > if I need to change them I have no idea what to call ApacheMon.
> >
> > Any comments on this are welcome.
>
> This FAQ entry may answer your question:
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html#Name-changes
>
>
> But you ask the public relations committee for permission
> (prc-at-apache.org).
>
> ciao...
> --
> Lars Eilebrecht
> lars@apache.org
>
>
>
--
~Jorge
Re: Blackdot.be (ApacheMon & ApacheMobile) - Questions sparked by
the ApacheLounge fuss
Posted by Lars Eilebrecht <la...@apache.org>.
According to Jorge:
> Should I change these names to other things too to be safe? If so any ideas?
> I can see ApacheMobile being something like ServerOnAStick or something. But
> if I need to change them I have no idea what to call ApacheMon.
>
> Any comments on this are welcome.
This FAQ entry may answer your question:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html#Name-changes
But you ask the public relations committee for permission
(prc-at-apache.org).
ciao...
--
Lars Eilebrecht
lars@apache.org