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Posted to users@activemq.apache.org by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> on 2021/08/13 14:48:08 UTC
[PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website
Hi guys,
I created pull request
https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/pull/56 on website to remove
the nabble link from the contact page.
Since nabble downgraded their servers capacity, a bunch of forums linked
to mailing list are not available anymore. It's the case for several
Apache projects, including Apache ActiveMQ.
Users should use mailing list and eventually slack (but remember, if it
doesn't happen on the mailing list, it never happens, so discussions on
slack should moved to mailing list at some point).
If there's no objection, I will merge PR #56.
Thanks,
Regards
JB
Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website
Posted by Robbie Gemmell <ro...@gmail.com>.
I updated the site earlier
On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 at 14:38, Justin Bertram <jb...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Bruce, I sent the email you requested. The subject is "[HEADS-UP]
> ActiveMQ/Nabble integration is defunct."
>
> Robbie, thanks for that link. I didn't know that existed. That seems like a
> great option! I'll reply to my thread with this and update the website as
> well.
>
>
> Justin
>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 5:11 AM Robbie Gemmell <ro...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > There is also https://lists.apache.org/list.html?users@activemq.apache.org
> >
> > On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 at 17:12, Dyck, Trevor <tr...@amazon.com.invalid>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Sounds great, thank-you.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Justin Bertram <jb...@apache.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2021 9:09 AM
> > > To: users@activemq.apache.org
> > > Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website
> > >
> > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not
> > click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know
> > the content is safe.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > There are links to 2 archive sites next to where the old Nabble link was
> > - Apache and Markmail.
> > >
> > > You can search the Apache archive by prefixing a Google or DuckDuckGo
> > search with "site:<archive-url>", e.g. "site:
> > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/activemq-users/ clustering"
> > >
> > > The Markmail archive has a built-in search feature.
> > >
> > >
> > > Justin
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 10:47 AM Dyck, Trevor
> > <tr...@amazon.com.invalid>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I found Nabble useful for searching past discussions - is there
> > > > another way to search those easily besides Nabble?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Trevor
> > > >
> > > > > On Aug 13, 2021, at 7:49 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do
> > > > > not
> > > > click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and
> > > > know the content is safe.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi guys,
> > > > >
> > > > > I created pull request
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/pull/56 on website to
> > > > > remove the nabble link from the contact page.
> > > > >
> > > > > Since nabble downgraded their servers capacity, a bunch of forums
> > > > > linked to mailing list are not available anymore. It's the case for
> > > > > several Apache projects, including Apache ActiveMQ.
> > > > >
> > > > > Users should use mailing list and eventually slack (but remember, if
> > > > > it doesn't happen on the mailing list, it never happens, so
> > > > > discussions on slack should moved to mailing list at some point).
> > > > >
> > > > > If there's no objection, I will merge PR #56.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > JB
> > > >
> >
> >
Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website
Posted by Justin Bertram <jb...@apache.org>.
Bruce, I sent the email you requested. The subject is "[HEADS-UP]
ActiveMQ/Nabble integration is defunct."
Robbie, thanks for that link. I didn't know that existed. That seems like a
great option! I'll reply to my thread with this and update the website as
well.
Justin
On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 5:11 AM Robbie Gemmell <ro...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> There is also https://lists.apache.org/list.html?users@activemq.apache.org
>
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 at 17:12, Dyck, Trevor <tr...@amazon.com.invalid>
> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds great, thank-you.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Justin Bertram <jb...@apache.org>
> > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2021 9:09 AM
> > To: users@activemq.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website
> >
> > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not
> click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know
> the content is safe.
> >
> >
> >
> > There are links to 2 archive sites next to where the old Nabble link was
> - Apache and Markmail.
> >
> > You can search the Apache archive by prefixing a Google or DuckDuckGo
> search with "site:<archive-url>", e.g. "site:
> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/activemq-users/ clustering"
> >
> > The Markmail archive has a built-in search feature.
> >
> >
> > Justin
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 10:47 AM Dyck, Trevor
> <tr...@amazon.com.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I found Nabble useful for searching past discussions - is there
> > > another way to search those easily besides Nabble?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Trevor
> > >
> > > > On Aug 13, 2021, at 7:49 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do
> > > > not
> > > click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and
> > > know the content is safe.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi guys,
> > > >
> > > > I created pull request
> > > > https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/pull/56 on website to
> > > > remove the nabble link from the contact page.
> > > >
> > > > Since nabble downgraded their servers capacity, a bunch of forums
> > > > linked to mailing list are not available anymore. It's the case for
> > > > several Apache projects, including Apache ActiveMQ.
> > > >
> > > > Users should use mailing list and eventually slack (but remember, if
> > > > it doesn't happen on the mailing list, it never happens, so
> > > > discussions on slack should moved to mailing list at some point).
> > > >
> > > > If there's no objection, I will merge PR #56.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Regards
> > > > JB
> > >
>
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website
Posted by Robbie Gemmell <ro...@gmail.com>.
There is also https://lists.apache.org/list.html?users@activemq.apache.org
On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 at 17:12, Dyck, Trevor <tr...@amazon.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> Sounds great, thank-you.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Justin Bertram <jb...@apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2021 9:09 AM
> To: users@activemq.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website
>
> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe.
>
>
>
> There are links to 2 archive sites next to where the old Nabble link was - Apache and Markmail.
>
> You can search the Apache archive by prefixing a Google or DuckDuckGo search with "site:<archive-url>", e.g. "site:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/activemq-users/ clustering"
>
> The Markmail archive has a built-in search feature.
>
>
> Justin
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 10:47 AM Dyck, Trevor <tr...@amazon.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > I found Nabble useful for searching past discussions - is there
> > another way to search those easily besides Nabble?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Trevor
> >
> > > On Aug 13, 2021, at 7:49 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do
> > > not
> > click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and
> > know the content is safe.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > I created pull request
> > > https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/pull/56 on website to
> > > remove the nabble link from the contact page.
> > >
> > > Since nabble downgraded their servers capacity, a bunch of forums
> > > linked to mailing list are not available anymore. It's the case for
> > > several Apache projects, including Apache ActiveMQ.
> > >
> > > Users should use mailing list and eventually slack (but remember, if
> > > it doesn't happen on the mailing list, it never happens, so
> > > discussions on slack should moved to mailing list at some point).
> > >
> > > If there's no objection, I will merge PR #56.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Regards
> > > JB
> >
Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website
Posted by Tim Bain <tb...@alumni.duke.edu>.
This change also eliminates a source of occasional confusion where Nabble
allows users to edit messages after they've been sent to the mailing list,
yet does not result in any updated emails being sent. So users occasionally
think they've provided more/better information but people who use the list
via email never see those attempts to communicate.
Tim
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021, 10:12 AM Dyck, Trevor <tr...@amazon.com.invalid>
wrote:
> Sounds great, thank-you.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Justin Bertram <jb...@apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2021 9:09 AM
> To: users@activemq.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website
>
> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not
> click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know
> the content is safe.
>
>
>
> There are links to 2 archive sites next to where the old Nabble link was -
> Apache and Markmail.
>
> You can search the Apache archive by prefixing a Google or DuckDuckGo
> search with "site:<archive-url>", e.g. "site:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/activemq-users/ clustering"
>
> The Markmail archive has a built-in search feature.
>
>
> Justin
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 10:47 AM Dyck, Trevor <trevdyck@amazon.com.invalid
> >
> wrote:
>
> > I found Nabble useful for searching past discussions - is there
> > another way to search those easily besides Nabble?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Trevor
> >
> > > On Aug 13, 2021, at 7:49 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do
> > > not
> > click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and
> > know the content is safe.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > I created pull request
> > > https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/pull/56 on website to
> > > remove the nabble link from the contact page.
> > >
> > > Since nabble downgraded their servers capacity, a bunch of forums
> > > linked to mailing list are not available anymore. It's the case for
> > > several Apache projects, including Apache ActiveMQ.
> > >
> > > Users should use mailing list and eventually slack (but remember, if
> > > it doesn't happen on the mailing list, it never happens, so
> > > discussions on slack should moved to mailing list at some point).
> > >
> > > If there's no objection, I will merge PR #56.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Regards
> > > JB
> >
>
RE: [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website
Posted by "Dyck, Trevor" <tr...@amazon.com.INVALID>.
Sounds great, thank-you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Bertram <jb...@apache.org>
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2021 9:09 AM
To: users@activemq.apache.org
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website
CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe.
There are links to 2 archive sites next to where the old Nabble link was - Apache and Markmail.
You can search the Apache archive by prefixing a Google or DuckDuckGo search with "site:<archive-url>", e.g. "site:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/activemq-users/ clustering"
The Markmail archive has a built-in search feature.
Justin
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 10:47 AM Dyck, Trevor <tr...@amazon.com.invalid>
wrote:
> I found Nabble useful for searching past discussions - is there
> another way to search those easily besides Nabble?
>
> Thanks,
> Trevor
>
> > On Aug 13, 2021, at 7:49 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do
> > not
> click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and
> know the content is safe.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I created pull request
> > https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/pull/56 on website to
> > remove the nabble link from the contact page.
> >
> > Since nabble downgraded their servers capacity, a bunch of forums
> > linked to mailing list are not available anymore. It's the case for
> > several Apache projects, including Apache ActiveMQ.
> >
> > Users should use mailing list and eventually slack (but remember, if
> > it doesn't happen on the mailing list, it never happens, so
> > discussions on slack should moved to mailing list at some point).
> >
> > If there's no objection, I will merge PR #56.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Regards
> > JB
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website
Posted by Justin Bertram <jb...@apache.org>.
There are links to 2 archive sites next to where the old Nabble link was -
Apache and Markmail.
You can search the Apache archive by prefixing a Google or DuckDuckGo
search with "site:<archive-url>", e.g. "site:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/activemq-users/ clustering"
The Markmail archive has a built-in search feature.
Justin
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 10:47 AM Dyck, Trevor <tr...@amazon.com.invalid>
wrote:
> I found Nabble useful for searching past discussions - is there another
> way to search those easily besides Nabble?
>
> Thanks,
> Trevor
>
> > On Aug 13, 2021, at 7:49 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not
> click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know
> the content is safe.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I created pull request
> > https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/pull/56 on website to remove
> > the nabble link from the contact page.
> >
> > Since nabble downgraded their servers capacity, a bunch of forums linked
> > to mailing list are not available anymore. It's the case for several
> > Apache projects, including Apache ActiveMQ.
> >
> > Users should use mailing list and eventually slack (but remember, if it
> > doesn't happen on the mailing list, it never happens, so discussions on
> > slack should moved to mailing list at some point).
> >
> > If there's no objection, I will merge PR #56.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Regards
> > JB
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Trevor,
you still have use mailing list archives where you can search. Does it
sound good for you ?
Regards
JB
On 13/08/2021 17:47, Dyck, Trevor wrote:
> I found Nabble useful for searching past discussions - is there another way to search those easily besides Nabble?
>
> Thanks,
> Trevor
>
>> On Aug 13, 2021, at 7:49 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>>
>> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I created pull request
>> https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/pull/56 on website to remove
>> the nabble link from the contact page.
>>
>> Since nabble downgraded their servers capacity, a bunch of forums linked
>> to mailing list are not available anymore. It's the case for several
>> Apache projects, including Apache ActiveMQ.
>>
>> Users should use mailing list and eventually slack (but remember, if it
>> doesn't happen on the mailing list, it never happens, so discussions on
>> slack should moved to mailing list at some point).
>>
>> If there's no objection, I will merge PR #56.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Regards
>> JB
Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website
Posted by "Dyck, Trevor" <tr...@amazon.com.INVALID>.
I found Nabble useful for searching past discussions - is there another way to search those easily besides Nabble?
Thanks,
Trevor
> On Aug 13, 2021, at 7:49 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>
> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe.
>
>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I created pull request
> https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/pull/56 on website to remove
> the nabble link from the contact page.
>
> Since nabble downgraded their servers capacity, a bunch of forums linked
> to mailing list are not available anymore. It's the case for several
> Apache projects, including Apache ActiveMQ.
>
> Users should use mailing list and eventually slack (but remember, if it
> doesn't happen on the mailing list, it never happens, so discussions on
> slack should moved to mailing list at some point).
>
> If there's no objection, I will merge PR #56.
>
> Thanks,
> Regards
> JB
Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website
Posted by Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com>.
Please send a separate and specific message to the two lists with Nabble in
the subject, e.g., Trouble posting to the mailing list from Nabble?
Something specific that will jump out at readers.
Bruce
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 1:26 PM Justin Bertram <jb...@apache.org> wrote:
> JB's original email went to the users list. Is that sufficient or do you
> think there needs to be something more?
>
>
> Justin
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 2:19 PM Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > This explains why someone contacted me today about having their post to
> the
> > users@activemq list moderated out.
> >
> > Can someone please send a message to both the users@activemq and
> > dev@activemq lists to let people know that this is definitely a problem
> > from the Nabble side?
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 8:51 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Justin already merged the PR, so I guess we are good ;)
> > >
> > > Thanks !
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > JB
> > >
> > > On 13/08/2021 16:48, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> > > > Hi guys,
> > > >
> > > > I created pull request
> > > > https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/pull/56 on website to
> > remove
> > > > the nabble link from the contact page.
> > > >
> > > > Since nabble downgraded their servers capacity, a bunch of forums
> > linked
> > > > to mailing list are not available anymore. It's the case for several
> > > > Apache projects, including Apache ActiveMQ.
> > > >
> > > > Users should use mailing list and eventually slack (but remember, if
> it
> > > > doesn't happen on the mailing list, it never happens, so discussions
> on
> > > > slack should moved to mailing list at some point).
> > > >
> > > > If there's no objection, I will merge PR #56.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Regards
> > > > JB
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > perl -e 'print
> > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'
> > http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
> >
>
--
perl -e 'print
unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'
http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website
Posted by Justin Bertram <jb...@apache.org>.
JB's original email went to the users list. Is that sufficient or do you
think there needs to be something more?
Justin
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 2:19 PM Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This explains why someone contacted me today about having their post to the
> users@activemq list moderated out.
>
> Can someone please send a message to both the users@activemq and
> dev@activemq lists to let people know that this is definitely a problem
> from the Nabble side?
>
> Bruce
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 8:51 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Justin already merged the PR, so I guess we are good ;)
> >
> > Thanks !
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > On 13/08/2021 16:48, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > I created pull request
> > > https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/pull/56 on website to
> remove
> > > the nabble link from the contact page.
> > >
> > > Since nabble downgraded their servers capacity, a bunch of forums
> linked
> > > to mailing list are not available anymore. It's the case for several
> > > Apache projects, including Apache ActiveMQ.
> > >
> > > Users should use mailing list and eventually slack (but remember, if it
> > > doesn't happen on the mailing list, it never happens, so discussions on
> > > slack should moved to mailing list at some point).
> > >
> > > If there's no objection, I will merge PR #56.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Regards
> > > JB
> >
>
>
> --
> perl -e 'print
> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'
> http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website
Posted by Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com>.
This explains why someone contacted me today about having their post to the
users@activemq list moderated out.
Can someone please send a message to both the users@activemq and
dev@activemq lists to let people know that this is definitely a problem
from the Nabble side?
Bruce
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 8:51 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
wrote:
> Justin already merged the PR, so I guess we are good ;)
>
> Thanks !
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 13/08/2021 16:48, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I created pull request
> > https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/pull/56 on website to remove
> > the nabble link from the contact page.
> >
> > Since nabble downgraded their servers capacity, a bunch of forums linked
> > to mailing list are not available anymore. It's the case for several
> > Apache projects, including Apache ActiveMQ.
> >
> > Users should use mailing list and eventually slack (but remember, if it
> > doesn't happen on the mailing list, it never happens, so discussions on
> > slack should moved to mailing list at some point).
> >
> > If there's no objection, I will merge PR #56.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Regards
> > JB
>
--
perl -e 'print
unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'
http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Justin already merged the PR, so I guess we are good ;)
Thanks !
Regards
JB
On 13/08/2021 16:48, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I created pull request
> https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/pull/56 on website to remove
> the nabble link from the contact page.
>
> Since nabble downgraded their servers capacity, a bunch of forums linked
> to mailing list are not available anymore. It's the case for several
> Apache projects, including Apache ActiveMQ.
>
> Users should use mailing list and eventually slack (but remember, if it
> doesn't happen on the mailing list, it never happens, so discussions on
> slack should moved to mailing list at some point).
>
> If there's no objection, I will merge PR #56.
>
> Thanks,
> Regards
> JB