Iceberg 0.12 release ETA

["Vasudevan, Veena" <va...@amazon.com.INVALID>]

Iceberg dev team,

Would you happen to know the ETA for Iceberg 0.12 release? Is there a preview available? Thank you!

Best regards,
Veena

Re: Iceberg 0.12 release ETA

[Kyle Bendickson <kj...@gmail.com>]

Actually, according to the link I just sent the ETA is currently early July
for 0.12.

- Apologies, Kyle

On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 2:24 AM Kyle Bendickson <kj...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Additionally, I don’t believe a firm date for the 0.12 release has been
> brought up as there is on going work on the v2 format.
>
> Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong!
>
> - Kyle
>
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 2:23 AM Kyle Bendickson <kj...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Justin,
>>
>> Unfortunately, the sync has not been brought back to the mailing list
>> yet… until now!
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YuGhUdukLP5gGiqCbk0A5_Wifqe2CZWgOd3TbhY3UQg/edit
>>
>> The above is a running doc with what is discussed. I think it should work
>> for view / comment access (not a committer - yet :) - but I believe I have
>> the ability to share this link).
>>
>> Notably, we've decided going forward to start using the wiki available to
>> us.
>>
>> I believe that somebody has volunteered to spearhead the initial
>> collection of the wiki contents, to include design docs, on-going and past
>> design proposals, and other notes of importance (such as the sync meeting
>> notes).
>>
>> I have offered my assistance in helping with this endeavor, so I will be
>> sure that we send out the sync notes as well.
>>
>> Perhaps given that they take place online, a recording could be offered?
>> Not sure what the policies are around that but happy to help where I can to
>> ensure the project is meeting its goals and requirements while remaining
>> compliant however required.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Kyle Bendickson, @kbendick on GitHub
>> OSS Developer at Apple
>> kjbendickson@gmail.com / kbendickson[at]
>> apple[dot]com
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 6:14 PM Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> > We haven't set a date for the 0.12 release yet, but we're going to be
>>> > discussing this in the Iceberg sync tomorrow if you'd like to join.
>>>
>>> Was what was discussed at the sync brought back to the mailing list?
>>> Remember not everyone in your community can attend synchronous meetings and
>>> may missing out of information discussed there.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Justin
>>>
>>

Re: Iceberg 0.12 release ETA

[Kyle Bendickson <kj...@gmail.com>]

Additionally, I don’t believe a firm date for the 0.12 release has been
brought up as there is on going work on the v2 format.

Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong!

- Kyle

On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 2:23 AM Kyle Bendickson <kj...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Justin,
>
> Unfortunately, the sync has not been brought back to the mailing list yet…
> until now!
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YuGhUdukLP5gGiqCbk0A5_Wifqe2CZWgOd3TbhY3UQg/edit
>
> The above is a running doc with what is discussed. I think it should work
> for view / comment access (not a committer - yet :) - but I believe I have
> the ability to share this link).
>
> Notably, we've decided going forward to start using the wiki available to
> us.
>
> I believe that somebody has volunteered to spearhead the initial
> collection of the wiki contents, to include design docs, on-going and past
> design proposals, and other notes of importance (such as the sync meeting
> notes).
>
> I have offered my assistance in helping with this endeavor, so I will be
> sure that we send out the sync notes as well.
>
> Perhaps given that they take place online, a recording could be offered?
> Not sure what the policies are around that but happy to help where I can to
> ensure the project is meeting its goals and requirements while remaining
> compliant however required.
>
> All the best,
> Kyle Bendickson, @kbendick on GitHub
> OSS Developer at Apple
> kjbendickson@gmail.com / kbendickson[at]
> apple[dot]com
>
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 6:14 PM Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> > We haven't set a date for the 0.12 release yet, but we're going to be
>> > discussing this in the Iceberg sync tomorrow if you'd like to join.
>>
>> Was what was discussed at the sync brought back to the mailing list?
>> Remember not everyone in your community can attend synchronous meetings and
>> may missing out of information discussed there.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Justin
>>
>

Re: Iceberg 0.12 release ETA

[Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>]

Hi,

> Who is "they"? It doesn't sound like you're speaking for yourself here.

I was unable to find that information. I'm assuming that if I couldn't, then others may have the same issue. Sure, people who know where it is won't have any problems, but perhaps consider new people to the project and how they might find it. You might also consider that some people cannot access google docs, even if they find the link. Just a friendly suggestion, nothing more. I'll leave it up to you if you decide to change this.

Kind Regards,
Justin

Re: Iceberg 0.12 release ETA

[Ryan Blue <bl...@apache.org>]

Adding back +dev@iceberg.apache.org <de...@iceberg.apache.org>

> Perhaps because they were not aware of it existence?

Who is "they"? It doesn't sound like you're speaking for yourself here.

I'm skeptical that it would be someone involved in this community because
we regularly link to the agenda and notes doc on this mailing list. For
example, see the last sync invite I sent
<https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r19b085f4f59df1b0cc853c60af37feee3ac28341731a551ec2d0f73a%40%3Cdev.iceberg.apache.org%3E>
or
the notes sent out before that
<https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rdb7d1ab221295adec33cf93dcbcac2b9b7b80708b2efd903b7105511%40%3Cdev.iceberg.apache.org%3E>
.

If you're speaking up on behalf of a hypothetical person that is having
trouble accessing these docs, then I'd just say that we are happy to find a
solution with anyone that runs into these issues.

On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 4:31 PM Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
wrote:

> HI,
>
> > Once the notes from the sync are posted on the doc, we'll also post a
> copy to the mailing list.
>
> That sounds like a good solution to me.
>
> > Feel free to start a discussion and set up an alternative if the doc
> doesn't work for you. So far we haven't had anyone else raise issues with it
>
> Perhaps because they were not aware of it existence?
>
> Kind Regards,
> Justin
>
>

-- 
Ryan Blue

Re: Iceberg 0.12 release ETA

[Ryan Blue <bl...@apache.org>]

Hi Justin,

Once the notes from the sync are posted on the doc, we'll also post a copy
to the mailing list. The doc is just a good way to keep the history and
manage topics to discuss.

Feel free to start a discussion and set up an alternative if the doc
doesn't work for you. So far we haven't had anyone else raise issues with
it, but if there's something we can improve so it's easier for you to stay
involved, we're happy to.

Ryan



On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 2:58 AM Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> wrote:

> HI,
>
> > Unfortunately, the sync has not been brought back to the mailing list
> yet…
> > until now!
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YuGhUdukLP5gGiqCbk0A5_Wifqe2CZWgOd3TbhY3UQg/edit
>
> A link to a google document is probably not ideal for a number of reasons,
> people need a google account(?) and it's blocked in some countries and it's
> not easily searchable and an extra step to view. Why not just mail the
> minutes/details to the list?
>
> Kind Regards,
> Justin
>


-- 
Ryan Blue

Re: Iceberg 0.12 release ETA

[Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org>]

HI,

> Unfortunately, the sync has not been brought back to the mailing list yet…
> until now!
> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YuGhUdukLP5gGiqCbk0A5_Wifqe2CZWgOd3TbhY3UQg/edit

A link to a google document is probably not ideal for a number of reasons, people need a google account(?) and it's blocked in some countries and it's not easily searchable and an extra step to view. Why not just mail the minutes/details to the list?

Kind Regards,
Justin

Re: Iceberg 0.12 release ETA

[Kyle Bendickson <kj...@gmail.com>]

Hi Justin,

Unfortunately, the sync has not been brought back to the mailing list yet…
until now!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YuGhUdukLP5gGiqCbk0A5_Wifqe2CZWgOd3TbhY3UQg/edit

The above is a running doc with what is discussed. I think it should work
for view / comment access (not a committer - yet :) - but I believe I have
the ability to share this link).

Notably, we've decided going forward to start using the wiki available to
us.

I believe that somebody has volunteered to spearhead the initial collection
of the wiki contents, to include design docs, on-going and past design
proposals, and other notes of importance (such as the sync meeting notes).

I have offered my assistance in helping with this endeavor, so I will be
sure that we send out the sync notes as well.

Perhaps given that they take place online, a recording could be offered?
Not sure what the policies are around that but happy to help where I can to
ensure the project is meeting its goals and requirements while remaining
compliant however required.

All the best,
Kyle Bendickson, @kbendick on GitHub
OSS Developer at Apple
kjbendickson@gmail.com / kbendickson[at]
apple[dot]com

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 6:14 PM Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> > We haven't set a date for the 0.12 release yet, but we're going to be
> > discussing this in the Iceberg sync tomorrow if you'd like to join.
>
> Was what was discussed at the sync brought back to the mailing list?
> Remember not everyone in your community can attend synchronous meetings and
> may missing out of information discussed there.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Justin
>

Re: Iceberg 0.12 release ETA

[Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org>]

Hi,

> We haven't set a date for the 0.12 release yet, but we're going to be
> discussing this in the Iceberg sync tomorrow if you'd like to join.

Was what was discussed at the sync brought back to the mailing list? Remember not everyone in your community can attend synchronous meetings and may missing out of information discussed there.

Kind Regards,
Justin

Re: Iceberg 0.12 release ETA

[Ryan Blue <bl...@apache.org>]

Hi Veena,

We haven't set a date for the 0.12 release yet, but we're going to be
discussing this in the Iceberg sync tomorrow if you'd like to join.

For a preview, you can either test with master or a PR version. We haven't
released any candidates yet because we have a couple of issues that need to
be closed before the release. Is there any feature in particular that
you're looking to test with?

Ryan

On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 8:50 AM Vasudevan, Veena <va...@amazon.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Iceberg dev team,
>
>
>
> Would you happen to know the ETA for Iceberg 0.12 release? Is there a
> preview available? Thank you!
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Veena
>


-- 
Ryan Blue