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ApacheCon Europe 2008

ApacheCon Europe is coming up, 7th to 11th of April 2008 [1],  and the
deadline for submission of abstracts is coming up fast, on 26th of
this month.

What should we aim to do here?

The options seem to be

(60 minutes) Multi-person panel discussion
(60 minutes) Normal presentation
Intensive topical training (full-day)
Intensive topical training (half-day)
Intensive topical training (two-day)

My guess is that we should submit for a 60 minute presentation,  but
should we go for a tutorial session as well?

I'm happy to coordinate,  and although presenting on SCA would take me
a little out of my comfort zone, I would welcome the chance to do so.

As a possible starting point for thinking about this I was looking at
Simon Laws' abstract and presentation for the recent JavaZone
conference [2], [3].  What would we want to update or emphasize
differently from this?  In the short term we just need to get an
abstract together and think about who will do the presentation.

Regards, Kelvin.

[1] http://www.eu.apachecon.com/
[2] http://www4.java.no/web/show.do?page=92&articleid=5343
[3] http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/68184/BuildingSOAWithApacheTuscany.ppt?version=1

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Re: ApacheCon Europe 2008

Posted by Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>.
Haleh,

Some slight mods to the suggested abstract...

An update on the Apache Tuscany project - Building SOA solutions is easy

Apache Tuscany provides an open-source services infrastructure for
constructing SOA solutions from heterogeneous and distributed
services. This talk will focus on Apache Tuscany's implementation of
Service Component Architecture which is based on the V1.0 specifications
that are
now at OASIS for standardization. In addition, the talk will cover Apache
Tuscany extensions such as web 2.0, scripting, distribution and
multi-language
support as well as integration with other Apache projects such as ODE and
Geronimo. Some of the interesting topics under discussion in Apache Tuscany
will be highlighted.

The talk will be complemented with a demonstration to show how easy it is to
use Apache Tuscany to develop SOA solutions.

Simon


On 10/16/07, haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> How about the following. The talk is in April and by then there might be
> other releases beyond release 1.0 which is emphasized in the original
> text.
>
> An update on Apache Tuscany project- Building SOA solutions is easy
>
> Apache Tuscany provides an open-source services infrastructure for
> constructing SOA solutions from heterogeneous and distributed
> services. This talk will focus on Apache Tuscany's implementation of
> Service Component Architecture which is based on V1.0 specification that
> is
> now
> under OASIS for standardization. In addition, the talk will cover Apache
> Tuscany
> added extensions such as web 2.0, scripting, distribution and
> multi-language
> support as well as integration with other Apache projects such as ODE and
> Geronimo.
> Some of the interesting topics that are under discussion in Apache Tuscany
> will be highlighted.
>
> The talk will be complemented with a demo to demonstrate how easy it is to
> use Apache Tuscany to develop SOA solutions.

On 10/11/07, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 10/9/07, kelvin goodson <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > ApacheCon Europe is coming up, 7th to 11th of April 2008 [1],  and the
> > > deadline for submission of abstracts is coming up fast, on 26th of
> > > this month.
> > >
> > > What should we aim to do here?
> > >
> > > The options seem to be
> > >
> > > (60 minutes) Multi-person panel discussion
> > > (60 minutes) Normal presentation
> > > Intensive topical training (full-day)
> > > Intensive topical training (half-day)
> > > Intensive topical training (two-day)
> > >
> > > My guess is that we should submit for a 60 minute presentation,  but
> > > should we go for a tutorial session as well?
> > >
> > > I'm happy to coordinate,  and although presenting on SCA would take me
> > > a little out of my comfort zone, I would welcome the chance to do so.
> > >
> > > As a possible starting point for thinking about this I was looking at
> > > Simon Laws' abstract and presentation for the recent JavaZone
> > > conference [2], [3].  What would we want to update or emphasize
> > > differently from this?  In the short term we just need to get an
> > > abstract together and think about who will do the presentation.
> > >
> > > Regards, Kelvin.
> > >
> > > [1] http://www.eu.apachecon.com/
> > > [2] http://www4.java.no/web/show.do?page=92&articleid=5343
> > > [3]
> > >
> >
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/68184/BuildingSOAWithApacheTuscany.ppt?version=1
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tuscany-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: tuscany-dev-help@ws.apache.org
> > >
> > > I would certainly submit an abstract for a 60 minute presentation. I
> > know
> > others in the community have been working on tutorial material. What's
> the
> > state of that? If that is going ahead then that material could be reused
> > and
> > a proposal made. Would be good to get more mileage out of it.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Simon
> >
>

Re: ApacheCon Europe 2008

Posted by haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com>.
Simon,

I don't have anything to add to the updated abstract. My whole goal was to
make the first abstract a bit clearer and it seems like now it is there.

Thanks,
Haleh

On 10/17/07, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Patrick
>
> In lieu of Kelvin responding to this (I was going to help Kelvin out and
> make the slides) I think it would be really good to have you be part of
> the
> presentation. It brings a slightly different perspective and broadens the
> appeal I think.
>
> Regards
>
> Simon
>
> On 10/16/07, Patrick Leonard <pl...@roguewave.com> wrote:
> >
> > Haleh, the abstract looks good.
> >
> > Kelvin, I would be happy to join you if you want to do the
> > multi-presenter.
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: haleh mahbod [mailto:hmahbod@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:08 PM
> > To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: ApacheCon Europe 2008
> >
> >
> > How about the following. The talk is in April and by then there might be
> > other releases beyond release 1.0 which is emphasized in the original
> > text.
> >
> > An update on Apache Tuscany project- Building SOA solutions is easy
> >
> > Apache Tuscany provides an open-source services infrastructure for
> > constructing SOA solutions from heterogeneous and distributed
> > services. This talk will focus on Apache Tuscany's implementation of
> > Service Component Architecture which is based on V1.0 specification that
> > is now
> > under OASIS for standardization. In addition, the talk will cover Apache
> > Tuscany
> > added extensions such as web 2.0, scripting, distribution and
> > multi-language support as well as integration with other Apache projects
> > such as ODE and Geronimo.
> > Some of the interesting topics that are under discussion in Apache
> > Tuscany will be highlighted.
> >
> > The talk will be complemented with a demo to demonstrate how easy it is
> > to use Apache Tuscany to develop SOA solutions.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/11/07, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >         On 10/9/07, kelvin goodson <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >         >
> >         > ApacheCon Europe is coming up, 7th to 11th of April 2008 [1],
> > and the
> >         > deadline for submission of abstracts is coming up fast, on
> > 26th of
> >         > this month.
> >         >
> >         > What should we aim to do here?
> >         >
> >         > The options seem to be
> >         >
> >         > (60 minutes) Multi-person panel discussion
> >         > (60 minutes) Normal presentation
> >         > Intensive topical training (full-day)
> >         > Intensive topical training (half-day)
> >         > Intensive topical training (two-day)
> >         >
> >         > My guess is that we should submit for a 60 minute
> > presentation,  but
> >         > should we go for a tutorial session as well?
> >         >
> >         > I'm happy to coordinate,  and although presenting on SCA would
> > take me
> >         > a little out of my comfort zone, I would welcome the chance to
> > do so.
> >         >
> >         > As a possible starting point for thinking about this I was
> > looking at
> >         > Simon Laws' abstract and presentation for the recent JavaZone
> >         > conference [2], [3].  What would we want to update or
> > emphasize
> >         > differently from this?  In the short term we just need to get
> > an
> >         > abstract together and think about who will do the
> > presentation.
> >         >
> >         > Regards, Kelvin.
> >         >
> >         > [1] http://www.eu.apachecon.com/
> >         > [2] http://www4.java.no/web/show.do?page=92&articleid=5343
> >         > [3]
> >         >
> > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/68184/BuildingSO
> > AWithApacheTuscany.ppt?version=1
> >         >
> >         >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >         > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tuscany-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
> >         > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > tuscany-dev-help@ws.apache.org
> >         >
> >         > I would certainly submit an abstract for a 60 minute
> > presentation. I know
> >         others in the community have been working on tutorial material.
> > What's the
> >         state of that? If that is going ahead then that material could
> > be reused and
> >         a proposal made. Would be good to get more mileage out of it.
> >
> >         Regards
> >
> >         Simon
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: ApacheCon Europe 2008

Posted by kelvin goodson <ke...@thegoodsons.org.uk>.
Simon,
   you are right,  I haven't submitted the abstract, so please do,
and thanks for stepping in.

Kelvin.

On 18/10/2007, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 10/18/07, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/18/07, kelvin goodson < kelvingoodson@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >   sorry I missed responding to this.
> > >
> > > Haleh,  I like the changes to the abstract.
> > >
> > > Patrick, a joint session sounds really good.
> > >
> > > However, having got this far I now find I have an issue with the
> > > timing of ApacheCon,  so is there someone else from Tuscany community
> > > that might like to present this with Patrick?
> > >
> > > Regards, Kelvin.
> > >
> > > On 17/10/2007, Simon Laws < simonslaws@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Patrick
> > > >
> > > > In lieu of Kelvin responding to this (I was going to help Kelvin out
> and
> > > > make the slides) I think it would be really good to have you be part
> of the
> > > > presentation. It brings a slightly different perspective and broadens
> the
> > > > appeal I think.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Simon
> > > >
> > > > On 10/16/07, Patrick Leonard < pleonard@roguewave.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Haleh, the abstract looks good.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kelvin, I would be happy to join you if you want to do the
> > > > > multi-presenter.
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > From: haleh mahbod [mailto:hmahbod@gmail.com ]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:08 PM
> > > > > To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: ApacheCon Europe 2008
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > How about the following. The talk is in April and by then there
> might be
> > > > > other releases beyond release 1.0 which is emphasized in the
> original
> > > > > text.
> > > > >
> > > > > An update on Apache Tuscany project- Building SOA solutions is easy
> > > > >
> > > > > Apache Tuscany provides an open-source services infrastructure for
> > > > > constructing SOA solutions from heterogeneous and distributed
> > > > > services. This talk will focus on Apache Tuscany's implementation of
> > > > > Service Component Architecture which is based on V1.0 specification
> that
> > > > > is now
> > > > > under OASIS for standardization. In addition, the talk will cover
> Apache
> > > > > Tuscany
> > > > > added extensions such as web 2.0, scripting, distribution and
> > > > > multi-language support as well as integration with other Apache
> projects
> > > > > such as ODE and Geronimo.
> > > > > Some of the interesting topics that are under discussion in Apache
> > > > > Tuscany will be highlighted.
> > > > >
> > > > > The talk will be complemented with a demo to demonstrate how easy it
> is
> > > > > to use Apache Tuscany to develop SOA solutions.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/11/07, Simon Laws < simonslaws@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >         On 10/9/07, kelvin goodson < kelvingoodson@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >         >
> > > > >         > ApacheCon Europe is coming up, 7th to 11th of April 2008
> [1],
> > > > > and the
> > > > >         > deadline for submission of abstracts is coming up fast, on
> > > > > 26th of
> > > > >         > this month.
> > > > >         >
> > > > >         > What should we aim to do here?
> > > > >         >
> > > > >         > The options seem to be
> > > > >         >
> > > > >         > (60 minutes) Multi-person panel discussion
> > > > >         > (60 minutes) Normal presentation
> > > > >         > Intensive topical training (full-day)
> > > > >         > Intensive topical training (half-day)
> > > > >         > Intensive topical training (two-day)
> > > > >         >
> > > > >         > My guess is that we should submit for a 60 minute
> > > > > presentation,  but
> > > > >         > should we go for a tutorial session as well?
> > > > >         >
> > > > >         > I'm happy to coordinate,  and although presenting on SCA
> would
> > > > > take me
> > > > >         > a little out of my comfort zone, I would welcome the
> chance to
> > > > > do so.
> > > > >         >
> > > > >         > As a possible starting point for thinking about this I was
> > > > > looking at
> > > > >         > Simon Laws' abstract and presentation for the recent
> JavaZone
> > > > >         > conference [2], [3].  What would we want to update or
> > > > > emphasize
> > > > >         > differently from this?  In the short term we just need to
> get
> > > > > an
> > > > >         > abstract together and think about who will do the
> > > > > presentation.
> > > > >         >
> > > > >         > Regards, Kelvin.
> > > > >         >
> > > > >         > [1] http://www.eu.apachecon.com/
> > > > >         > [2]
> http://www4.java.no/web/show.do?page=92&articleid=5343
> > > > >         > [3]
> > > > >         >
> > > > >
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/68184/BuildingSO
> > > > > AWithApacheTuscany.ppt?version=1
> > > > >         >
> > > > >         >
> > > > >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >         > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> tuscany-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
> > > > >         > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > tuscany-dev-help@ws.apache.org
> > > > >         >
> > > > >         > I would certainly submit an abstract for a 60 minute
> > > > > presentation. I know
> > > > >         others in the community have been working on tutorial
> material.
> > > > > What's the
> > > > >         state of that? If that is going ahead then that material
> could
> > > > > be reused and
> > > > >         a proposal made. Would be good to get more mileage out of
> it.
> > > > >
> > > > >         Regards
> > > > >
> > > > >         Simon
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> tuscany-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: tuscany-dev-help@ws.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> > Hi Kelvin
> >
> > As I've been thinking about this and would like to go to ApacheCon I can
> step in here if you like.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Simon
> >
> I'm assuming you haven't submitted the abstract yet. If not I'll go ahead
> and do it.
>
> Simon
>

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Re: ApacheCon Europe 2008

Posted by Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>.
On 10/18/07, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 10/18/07, kelvin goodson <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >   sorry I missed responding to this.
> >
> > Haleh,  I like the changes to the abstract.
> >
> > Patrick, a joint session sounds really good.
> >
> > However, having got this far I now find I have an issue with the
> > timing of ApacheCon,  so is there someone else from Tuscany community
> > that might like to present this with Patrick?
> >
> > Regards, Kelvin.
> >
> > On 17/10/2007, Simon Laws < simonslaws@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Patrick
> > >
> > > In lieu of Kelvin responding to this (I was going to help Kelvin out
> > and
> > > make the slides) I think it would be really good to have you be part
> > of the
> > > presentation. It brings a slightly different perspective and broadens
> > the
> > > appeal I think.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Simon
> > >
> > > On 10/16/07, Patrick Leonard < pleonard@roguewave.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Haleh, the abstract looks good.
> > > >
> > > > Kelvin, I would be happy to join you if you want to do the
> > > > multi-presenter.
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > >
> > > > From: haleh mahbod [mailto:hmahbod@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:08 PM
> > > > To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: ApacheCon Europe 2008
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How about the following. The talk is in April and by then there
> > might be
> > > > other releases beyond release 1.0 which is emphasized in the
> > original
> > > > text.
> > > >
> > > > An update on Apache Tuscany project- Building SOA solutions is easy
> > > >
> > > > Apache Tuscany provides an open-source services infrastructure for
> > > > constructing SOA solutions from heterogeneous and distributed
> > > > services. This talk will focus on Apache Tuscany's implementation of
> > > > Service Component Architecture which is based on V1.0 specification
> > that
> > > > is now
> > > > under OASIS for standardization. In addition, the talk will cover
> > Apache
> > > > Tuscany
> > > > added extensions such as web 2.0, scripting, distribution and
> > > > multi-language support as well as integration with other Apache
> > projects
> > > > such as ODE and Geronimo.
> > > > Some of the interesting topics that are under discussion in Apache
> > > > Tuscany will be highlighted.
> > > >
> > > > The talk will be complemented with a demo to demonstrate how easy it
> > is
> > > > to use Apache Tuscany to develop SOA solutions.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/11/07, Simon Laws < simonslaws@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >         On 10/9/07, kelvin goodson <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >         >
> > > >         > ApacheCon Europe is coming up, 7th to 11th of April 2008
> > [1],
> > > > and the
> > > >         > deadline for submission of abstracts is coming up fast, on
> > > > 26th of
> > > >         > this month.
> > > >         >
> > > >         > What should we aim to do here?
> > > >         >
> > > >         > The options seem to be
> > > >         >
> > > >         > (60 minutes) Multi-person panel discussion
> > > >         > (60 minutes) Normal presentation
> > > >         > Intensive topical training (full-day)
> > > >         > Intensive topical training (half-day)
> > > >         > Intensive topical training (two-day)
> > > >         >
> > > >         > My guess is that we should submit for a 60 minute
> > > > presentation,  but
> > > >         > should we go for a tutorial session as well?
> > > >         >
> > > >         > I'm happy to coordinate,  and although presenting on SCA
> > would
> > > > take me
> > > >         > a little out of my comfort zone, I would welcome the
> > chance to
> > > > do so.
> > > >         >
> > > >         > As a possible starting point for thinking about this I was
> > > > looking at
> > > >         > Simon Laws' abstract and presentation for the recent
> > JavaZone
> > > >         > conference [2], [3].  What would we want to update or
> > > > emphasize
> > > >         > differently from this?  In the short term we just need to
> > get
> > > > an
> > > >         > abstract together and think about who will do the
> > > > presentation.
> > > >         >
> > > >         > Regards, Kelvin.
> > > >         >
> > > >         > [1] http://www.eu.apachecon.com/
> > > >         > [2] http://www4.java.no/web/show.do?page=92&articleid=5343
> > > >         > [3]
> > > >         >
> > > >
> > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/68184/BuildingSO
> > > > AWithApacheTuscany.ppt?version=1
> > > >         >
> > > >         >
> > > >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >         > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tuscany-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
> >
> > > >         > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > tuscany-dev-help@ws.apache.org
> > > >         >
> > > >         > I would certainly submit an abstract for a 60 minute
> > > > presentation. I know
> > > >         others in the community have been working on tutorial
> > material.
> > > > What's the
> > > >         state of that? If that is going ahead then that material
> > could
> > > > be reused and
> > > >         a proposal made. Would be good to get more mileage out of
> > it.
> > > >
> > > >         Regards
> > > >
> > > >         Simon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tuscany-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: tuscany-dev-help@ws.apache.org
> >
> > Hi Kelvin
>
> As I've been thinking about this and would like to go to ApacheCon I can
> step in here if you like.
>
> Regards
>
> Simon
>
I'm assuming you haven't submitted the abstract yet. If not I'll go ahead
and do it.

Simon

Re: ApacheCon Europe 2008

Posted by Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>.
On 10/18/07, kelvin goodson <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>   sorry I missed responding to this.
>
> Haleh,  I like the changes to the abstract.
>
> Patrick, a joint session sounds really good.
>
> However, having got this far I now find I have an issue with the
> timing of ApacheCon,  so is there someone else from Tuscany community
> that might like to present this with Patrick?
>
> Regards, Kelvin.
>
> On 17/10/2007, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Patrick
> >
> > In lieu of Kelvin responding to this (I was going to help Kelvin out and
> > make the slides) I think it would be really good to have you be part of
> the
> > presentation. It brings a slightly different perspective and broadens
> the
> > appeal I think.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Simon
> >
> > On 10/16/07, Patrick Leonard <pl...@roguewave.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Haleh, the abstract looks good.
> > >
> > > Kelvin, I would be happy to join you if you want to do the
> > > multi-presenter.
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: haleh mahbod [mailto:hmahbod@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:08 PM
> > > To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: ApacheCon Europe 2008
> > >
> > >
> > > How about the following. The talk is in April and by then there might
> be
> > > other releases beyond release 1.0 which is emphasized in the original
> > > text.
> > >
> > > An update on Apache Tuscany project- Building SOA solutions is easy
> > >
> > > Apache Tuscany provides an open-source services infrastructure for
> > > constructing SOA solutions from heterogeneous and distributed
> > > services. This talk will focus on Apache Tuscany's implementation of
> > > Service Component Architecture which is based on V1.0 specification
> that
> > > is now
> > > under OASIS for standardization. In addition, the talk will cover
> Apache
> > > Tuscany
> > > added extensions such as web 2.0, scripting, distribution and
> > > multi-language support as well as integration with other Apache
> projects
> > > such as ODE and Geronimo.
> > > Some of the interesting topics that are under discussion in Apache
> > > Tuscany will be highlighted.
> > >
> > > The talk will be complemented with a demo to demonstrate how easy it
> is
> > > to use Apache Tuscany to develop SOA solutions.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/11/07, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >         On 10/9/07, kelvin goodson <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >         >
> > >         > ApacheCon Europe is coming up, 7th to 11th of April 2008
> [1],
> > > and the
> > >         > deadline for submission of abstracts is coming up fast, on
> > > 26th of
> > >         > this month.
> > >         >
> > >         > What should we aim to do here?
> > >         >
> > >         > The options seem to be
> > >         >
> > >         > (60 minutes) Multi-person panel discussion
> > >         > (60 minutes) Normal presentation
> > >         > Intensive topical training (full-day)
> > >         > Intensive topical training (half-day)
> > >         > Intensive topical training (two-day)
> > >         >
> > >         > My guess is that we should submit for a 60 minute
> > > presentation,  but
> > >         > should we go for a tutorial session as well?
> > >         >
> > >         > I'm happy to coordinate,  and although presenting on SCA
> would
> > > take me
> > >         > a little out of my comfort zone, I would welcome the chance
> to
> > > do so.
> > >         >
> > >         > As a possible starting point for thinking about this I was
> > > looking at
> > >         > Simon Laws' abstract and presentation for the recent
> JavaZone
> > >         > conference [2], [3].  What would we want to update or
> > > emphasize
> > >         > differently from this?  In the short term we just need to
> get
> > > an
> > >         > abstract together and think about who will do the
> > > presentation.
> > >         >
> > >         > Regards, Kelvin.
> > >         >
> > >         > [1] http://www.eu.apachecon.com/
> > >         > [2] http://www4.java.no/web/show.do?page=92&articleid=5343
> > >         > [3]
> > >         >
> > >
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/68184/BuildingSO
> > > AWithApacheTuscany.ppt?version=1
> > >         >
> > >         >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> tuscany-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
> > >         > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > tuscany-dev-help@ws.apache.org
> > >         >
> > >         > I would certainly submit an abstract for a 60 minute
> > > presentation. I know
> > >         others in the community have been working on tutorial
> material.
> > > What's the
> > >         state of that? If that is going ahead then that material could
> > > be reused and
> > >         a proposal made. Would be good to get more mileage out of it.
> > >
> > >         Regards
> > >
> > >         Simon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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>
> Hi Kelvin

As I've been thinking about this and would like to go to ApacheCon I can
step in here if you like.

Regards

Simon

Re: ApacheCon Europe 2008

Posted by kelvin goodson <ke...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
  sorry I missed responding to this.

Haleh,  I like the changes to the abstract.

Patrick, a joint session sounds really good.

However, having got this far I now find I have an issue with the
timing of ApacheCon,  so is there someone else from Tuscany community
that might like to present this with Patrick?

Regards, Kelvin.

On 17/10/2007, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi Patrick
>
> In lieu of Kelvin responding to this (I was going to help Kelvin out and
> make the slides) I think it would be really good to have you be part of the
> presentation. It brings a slightly different perspective and broadens the
> appeal I think.
>
> Regards
>
> Simon
>
> On 10/16/07, Patrick Leonard <pl...@roguewave.com> wrote:
> >
> > Haleh, the abstract looks good.
> >
> > Kelvin, I would be happy to join you if you want to do the
> > multi-presenter.
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: haleh mahbod [mailto:hmahbod@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:08 PM
> > To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: ApacheCon Europe 2008
> >
> >
> > How about the following. The talk is in April and by then there might be
> > other releases beyond release 1.0 which is emphasized in the original
> > text.
> >
> > An update on Apache Tuscany project- Building SOA solutions is easy
> >
> > Apache Tuscany provides an open-source services infrastructure for
> > constructing SOA solutions from heterogeneous and distributed
> > services. This talk will focus on Apache Tuscany's implementation of
> > Service Component Architecture which is based on V1.0 specification that
> > is now
> > under OASIS for standardization. In addition, the talk will cover Apache
> > Tuscany
> > added extensions such as web 2.0, scripting, distribution and
> > multi-language support as well as integration with other Apache projects
> > such as ODE and Geronimo.
> > Some of the interesting topics that are under discussion in Apache
> > Tuscany will be highlighted.
> >
> > The talk will be complemented with a demo to demonstrate how easy it is
> > to use Apache Tuscany to develop SOA solutions.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/11/07, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >         On 10/9/07, kelvin goodson <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >         >
> >         > ApacheCon Europe is coming up, 7th to 11th of April 2008 [1],
> > and the
> >         > deadline for submission of abstracts is coming up fast, on
> > 26th of
> >         > this month.
> >         >
> >         > What should we aim to do here?
> >         >
> >         > The options seem to be
> >         >
> >         > (60 minutes) Multi-person panel discussion
> >         > (60 minutes) Normal presentation
> >         > Intensive topical training (full-day)
> >         > Intensive topical training (half-day)
> >         > Intensive topical training (two-day)
> >         >
> >         > My guess is that we should submit for a 60 minute
> > presentation,  but
> >         > should we go for a tutorial session as well?
> >         >
> >         > I'm happy to coordinate,  and although presenting on SCA would
> > take me
> >         > a little out of my comfort zone, I would welcome the chance to
> > do so.
> >         >
> >         > As a possible starting point for thinking about this I was
> > looking at
> >         > Simon Laws' abstract and presentation for the recent JavaZone
> >         > conference [2], [3].  What would we want to update or
> > emphasize
> >         > differently from this?  In the short term we just need to get
> > an
> >         > abstract together and think about who will do the
> > presentation.
> >         >
> >         > Regards, Kelvin.
> >         >
> >         > [1] http://www.eu.apachecon.com/
> >         > [2] http://www4.java.no/web/show.do?page=92&articleid=5343
> >         > [3]
> >         >
> > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/68184/BuildingSO
> > AWithApacheTuscany.ppt?version=1
> >         >
> >         >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >         > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tuscany-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
> >         > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > tuscany-dev-help@ws.apache.org
> >         >
> >         > I would certainly submit an abstract for a 60 minute
> > presentation. I know
> >         others in the community have been working on tutorial material.
> > What's the
> >         state of that? If that is going ahead then that material could
> > be reused and
> >         a proposal made. Would be good to get more mileage out of it.
> >
> >         Regards
> >
> >         Simon
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Re: ApacheCon Europe 2008

Posted by Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>.
Hi Patrick

In lieu of Kelvin responding to this (I was going to help Kelvin out and
make the slides) I think it would be really good to have you be part of the
presentation. It brings a slightly different perspective and broadens the
appeal I think.

Regards

Simon

On 10/16/07, Patrick Leonard <pl...@roguewave.com> wrote:
>
> Haleh, the abstract looks good.
>
> Kelvin, I would be happy to join you if you want to do the
> multi-presenter.
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: haleh mahbod [mailto:hmahbod@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:08 PM
> To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org
> Subject: Re: ApacheCon Europe 2008
>
>
> How about the following. The talk is in April and by then there might be
> other releases beyond release 1.0 which is emphasized in the original
> text.
>
> An update on Apache Tuscany project- Building SOA solutions is easy
>
> Apache Tuscany provides an open-source services infrastructure for
> constructing SOA solutions from heterogeneous and distributed
> services. This talk will focus on Apache Tuscany's implementation of
> Service Component Architecture which is based on V1.0 specification that
> is now
> under OASIS for standardization. In addition, the talk will cover Apache
> Tuscany
> added extensions such as web 2.0, scripting, distribution and
> multi-language support as well as integration with other Apache projects
> such as ODE and Geronimo.
> Some of the interesting topics that are under discussion in Apache
> Tuscany will be highlighted.
>
> The talk will be complemented with a demo to demonstrate how easy it is
> to use Apache Tuscany to develop SOA solutions.
>
>
>
>
> On 10/11/07, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>         On 10/9/07, kelvin goodson <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>         >
>         > ApacheCon Europe is coming up, 7th to 11th of April 2008 [1],
> and the
>         > deadline for submission of abstracts is coming up fast, on
> 26th of
>         > this month.
>         >
>         > What should we aim to do here?
>         >
>         > The options seem to be
>         >
>         > (60 minutes) Multi-person panel discussion
>         > (60 minutes) Normal presentation
>         > Intensive topical training (full-day)
>         > Intensive topical training (half-day)
>         > Intensive topical training (two-day)
>         >
>         > My guess is that we should submit for a 60 minute
> presentation,  but
>         > should we go for a tutorial session as well?
>         >
>         > I'm happy to coordinate,  and although presenting on SCA would
> take me
>         > a little out of my comfort zone, I would welcome the chance to
> do so.
>         >
>         > As a possible starting point for thinking about this I was
> looking at
>         > Simon Laws' abstract and presentation for the recent JavaZone
>         > conference [2], [3].  What would we want to update or
> emphasize
>         > differently from this?  In the short term we just need to get
> an
>         > abstract together and think about who will do the
> presentation.
>         >
>         > Regards, Kelvin.
>         >
>         > [1] http://www.eu.apachecon.com/
>         > [2] http://www4.java.no/web/show.do?page=92&articleid=5343
>         > [3]
>         >
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/68184/BuildingSO
> AWithApacheTuscany.ppt?version=1
>         >
>         >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>         > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tuscany-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
>         > For additional commands, e-mail:
> tuscany-dev-help@ws.apache.org
>         >
>         > I would certainly submit an abstract for a 60 minute
> presentation. I know
>         others in the community have been working on tutorial material.
> What's the
>         state of that? If that is going ahead then that material could
> be reused and
>         a proposal made. Would be good to get more mileage out of it.
>
>         Regards
>
>         Simon
>
>
>
>

RE: ApacheCon Europe 2008

Posted by Patrick Leonard <pl...@roguewave.com>.
Haleh, the abstract looks good.
 
Kelvin, I would be happy to join you if you want to do the
multi-presenter.  

________________________________

From: haleh mahbod [mailto:hmahbod@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:08 PM
To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: ApacheCon Europe 2008


How about the following. The talk is in April and by then there might be
other releases beyond release 1.0 which is emphasized in the original
text.

An update on Apache Tuscany project- Building SOA solutions is easy

Apache Tuscany provides an open-source services infrastructure for
constructing SOA solutions from heterogeneous and distributed
services. This talk will focus on Apache Tuscany's implementation of 
Service Component Architecture which is based on V1.0 specification that
is now
under OASIS for standardization. In addition, the talk will cover Apache
Tuscany 
added extensions such as web 2.0, scripting, distribution and
multi-language support as well as integration with other Apache projects
such as ODE and Geronimo. 
Some of the interesting topics that are under discussion in Apache
Tuscany will be highlighted.

The talk will be complemented with a demo to demonstrate how easy it is
to use Apache Tuscany to develop SOA solutions.




On 10/11/07, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote: 

	On 10/9/07, kelvin goodson <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
	>
	> ApacheCon Europe is coming up, 7th to 11th of April 2008 [1],
and the
	> deadline for submission of abstracts is coming up fast, on
26th of 
	> this month.
	>
	> What should we aim to do here?
	>
	> The options seem to be
	>
	> (60 minutes) Multi-person panel discussion
	> (60 minutes) Normal presentation
	> Intensive topical training (full-day) 
	> Intensive topical training (half-day)
	> Intensive topical training (two-day)
	>
	> My guess is that we should submit for a 60 minute
presentation,  but
	> should we go for a tutorial session as well? 
	>
	> I'm happy to coordinate,  and although presenting on SCA would
take me
	> a little out of my comfort zone, I would welcome the chance to
do so.
	>
	> As a possible starting point for thinking about this I was
looking at 
	> Simon Laws' abstract and presentation for the recent JavaZone
	> conference [2], [3].  What would we want to update or
emphasize
	> differently from this?  In the short term we just need to get
an
	> abstract together and think about who will do the
presentation.
	>
	> Regards, Kelvin.
	>
	> [1] http://www.eu.apachecon.com/
	> [2] http://www4.java.no/web/show.do?page=92&articleid=5343
	> [3]
	>
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/68184/BuildingSO
AWithApacheTuscany.ppt?version=1 
	>
	>
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tuscany-dev-help@ws.apache.org
	>
	> I would certainly submit an abstract for a 60 minute
presentation. I know
	others in the community have been working on tutorial material.
What's the 
	state of that? If that is going ahead then that material could
be reused and
	a proposal made. Would be good to get more mileage out of it.
	
	Regards
	
	Simon
	



Re: ApacheCon Europe 2008

Posted by haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com>.
How about the following. The talk is in April and by then there might be
other releases beyond release 1.0 which is emphasized in the original text.

An update on Apache Tuscany project- Building SOA solutions is easy

Apache Tuscany provides an open-source services infrastructure for
constructing SOA solutions from heterogeneous and distributed
services. This talk will focus on Apache Tuscany's implementation of
Service Component Architecture which is based on V1.0 specification that is
now
under OASIS for standardization. In addition, the talk will cover Apache
Tuscany
added extensions such as web 2.0, scripting, distribution and multi-language
support as well as integration with other Apache projects such as ODE and
Geronimo.
Some of the interesting topics that are under discussion in Apache Tuscany
will be highlighted.

The talk will be complemented with a demo to demonstrate how easy it is to
use Apache Tuscany to develop SOA solutions.



On 10/11/07, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> On 10/9/07, kelvin goodson <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > ApacheCon Europe is coming up, 7th to 11th of April 2008 [1],  and the
> > deadline for submission of abstracts is coming up fast, on 26th of
> > this month.
> >
> > What should we aim to do here?
> >
> > The options seem to be
> >
> > (60 minutes) Multi-person panel discussion
> > (60 minutes) Normal presentation
> > Intensive topical training (full-day)
> > Intensive topical training (half-day)
> > Intensive topical training (two-day)
> >
> > My guess is that we should submit for a 60 minute presentation,  but
> > should we go for a tutorial session as well?
> >
> > I'm happy to coordinate,  and although presenting on SCA would take me
> > a little out of my comfort zone, I would welcome the chance to do so.
> >
> > As a possible starting point for thinking about this I was looking at
> > Simon Laws' abstract and presentation for the recent JavaZone
> > conference [2], [3].  What would we want to update or emphasize
> > differently from this?  In the short term we just need to get an
> > abstract together and think about who will do the presentation.
> >
> > Regards, Kelvin.
> >
> > [1] http://www.eu.apachecon.com/
> > [2] http://www4.java.no/web/show.do?page=92&articleid=5343
> > [3]
> >
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/68184/BuildingSOAWithApacheTuscany.ppt?version=1
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tuscany-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: tuscany-dev-help@ws.apache.org
> >
> > I would certainly submit an abstract for a 60 minute presentation. I
> know
> others in the community have been working on tutorial material. What's the
> state of that? If that is going ahead then that material could be reused
> and
> a proposal made. Would be good to get more mileage out of it.
>
> Regards
>
> Simon
>

Re: ApacheCon Europe 2008

Posted by kelvin goodson <ke...@thegoodsons.org.uk>.
How about this for an abstract for a 60 minute presentation?

Meet Apache Tuscany - Building SOA Solutions With The Service
Component Architecture

Apache Tuscany provides an open-source services infrastructure for
constructing SOA solutions from heterogeneous and distributed
services. The project is currently very active; it has achieved the
V1.0 milestone (released September 2007), as of V1.0 it implements
V1.0 of the Service Component Architecture specifications currently
being standardized at OASIS, the software is growing in maturity and
the developer and user communities are building rapidly. With Apache
Tuscany SCA, application developers can easily create, reuse and
customize services in different languages, for example, Java, XQuery,
BPEL or various scripting languages, and then assemble and deploy them
in a distributed environment using a variety of protocols, for
example, WebServices, RMI, JSONRPC, RSS, Atom, DWR and JMS. In this
talk we catch up with all of the recent Apache Tuscany SCA project
activity and its collaboration with other Apache projects such as ODE
and Axis and show you how to build you own service oriented
applications using Tuscany SCA.

Kelvin.

On 11/10/2007, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 10/9/07, kelvin goodson <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > ApacheCon Europe is coming up, 7th to 11th of April 2008 [1],  and the
> > deadline for submission of abstracts is coming up fast, on 26th of
> > this month.
> >
> > What should we aim to do here?
> >
> > The options seem to be
> >
> > (60 minutes) Multi-person panel discussion
> > (60 minutes) Normal presentation
> > Intensive topical training (full-day)
> > Intensive topical training (half-day)
> > Intensive topical training (two-day)
> >
> > My guess is that we should submit for a 60 minute presentation,  but
> > should we go for a tutorial session as well?
> >
> > I'm happy to coordinate,  and although presenting on SCA would take me
> > a little out of my comfort zone, I would welcome the chance to do so.
> >
> > As a possible starting point for thinking about this I was looking at
> > Simon Laws' abstract and presentation for the recent JavaZone
> > conference [2], [3].  What would we want to update or emphasize
> > differently from this?  In the short term we just need to get an
> > abstract together and think about who will do the presentation.
> >
> > Regards, Kelvin.
> >
> > [1] http://www.eu.apachecon.com/
> > [2]
> http://www4.java.no/web/show.do?page=92&articleid=5343
> > [3]
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/68184/BuildingSOAWithApacheTuscany.ppt?version=1
> >
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
> I would certainly submit an abstract for a 60 minute presentation. I know
> others in the community have been working on tutorial material. What's the
> state of that? If that is going ahead then that material could be reused and
> a proposal made. Would be good to get more mileage out of it.
>
> Regards
>
> Simon
>

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Re: ApacheCon Europe 2008

Posted by Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>.
On 10/9/07, kelvin goodson <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ApacheCon Europe is coming up, 7th to 11th of April 2008 [1],  and the
> deadline for submission of abstracts is coming up fast, on 26th of
> this month.
>
> What should we aim to do here?
>
> The options seem to be
>
> (60 minutes) Multi-person panel discussion
> (60 minutes) Normal presentation
> Intensive topical training (full-day)
> Intensive topical training (half-day)
> Intensive topical training (two-day)
>
> My guess is that we should submit for a 60 minute presentation,  but
> should we go for a tutorial session as well?
>
> I'm happy to coordinate,  and although presenting on SCA would take me
> a little out of my comfort zone, I would welcome the chance to do so.
>
> As a possible starting point for thinking about this I was looking at
> Simon Laws' abstract and presentation for the recent JavaZone
> conference [2], [3].  What would we want to update or emphasize
> differently from this?  In the short term we just need to get an
> abstract together and think about who will do the presentation.
>
> Regards, Kelvin.
>
> [1] http://www.eu.apachecon.com/
> [2] http://www4.java.no/web/show.do?page=92&articleid=5343
> [3]
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/68184/BuildingSOAWithApacheTuscany.ppt?version=1
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: tuscany-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: tuscany-dev-help@ws.apache.org
>
> I would certainly submit an abstract for a 60 minute presentation. I know
others in the community have been working on tutorial material. What's the
state of that? If that is going ahead then that material could be reused and
a proposal made. Would be good to get more mileage out of it.

Regards

Simon