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[users@httpd] Apache on Windows
Hello, I am wondering if any of you use Apache on Windows, and if so
what your experience has been like so far.
Thanks, RL. Fox.
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache on Windows
Posted by Vince Bravdica <vp...@vwebr.net>.
matt farey wrote:
> Vince Bravdica wrote:
>
>> Randall Fox wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, I am wondering if any of you use Apache on Windows, and if so
>>> what your experience has been like so far.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, RL. Fox.
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>> The only issue I experience is that I cannot get MySQL to run on it.
>> PHP works great, and it makes fro a fantastic developmental piece of
>> hardware. Just wish I could get MySql to run with Apache/PHP.
>>
>>
> I should say then that MySql does indeed run on windows xp and it's been
> doing so here for 5 years without a hitch, it has millions of postcodes
> and hundreds of databases inside, and Ive been upgrading for years
> without any trouble.
> Bascially XP (PRO) is a fine and stable way to run a simple WAMP setup,
> there are no issues worth mentioning, but of course if you want extra
> tweakability hardness and reliability go for linux!
>
>
I must have some sort of installation issues that I cannot get answers
to at PHP or MySQL lists, because I only get the same thing there as you
say here..."it works fine here". Oh well, I have no issues with the
linux boxes, just the XP Pro one.
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache on Windows
Posted by matt farey <ma...@gmail.com>.
Vince Bravdica wrote:
> Randall Fox wrote:
>>
>> Hello, I am wondering if any of you use Apache on Windows, and if so
>> what your experience has been like so far.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks, RL. Fox.
>>
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> The only issue I experience is that I cannot get MySQL to run on it.
> PHP works great, and it makes fro a fantastic developmental piece of
> hardware. Just wish I could get MySql to run with Apache/PHP.
>
I should say then that MySql does indeed run on windows xp and it's been
doing so here for 5 years without a hitch, it has millions of postcodes
and hundreds of databases inside, and Ive been upgrading for years
without any trouble.
Bascially XP (PRO) is a fine and stable way to run a simple WAMP setup,
there are no issues worth mentioning, but of course if you want extra
tweakability hardness and reliability go for linux!
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache on Windows
Posted by Vince Bravdica <vp...@vwebr.net>.
Randall Fox wrote:
>
> Hello, I am wondering if any of you use Apache on Windows, and if so
> what your experience has been like so far.
>
>
>
> Thanks, RL. Fox.
>
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The only issue I experience is that I cannot get MySQL to run on it. PHP
works great, and it makes fro a fantastic developmental piece of
hardware. Just wish I could get MySql to run with Apache/PHP.
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache on Windows
Posted by matt farey <ma...@gmail.com>.
truly wonderful, those apache guys and gals are great.
latest apache with mod_security2 with php, perl, python (...) modules on win pro
hundreds of thousands of requests per day, complex apps, hundreds of vhosts,
no issues whatsoever, uptime is great, (no abnormal crashes ever)
(which I think is good for a 9 year old PC)
all on 700MHz off the shelf with 512 RAM
The only thing is, keep it secure, and pay attention to it every day.
m
Steve Swift wrote:
> I have a very light-weight server running under Windows at
> http://swiftys.org.uk
> The homepage leads nowhere, and I don't advertise the pages on this
> site. I use it for CGI scripting and demonstration pages, by
> invitation only.
> Overall I'm very happy with it. It doesn't restart cleanly from the
> control in the system area, but doing a stop followed by a start gets
> around that.
>
> On 06/03/07, * Randall Fox* <RLFox@helzberg.com
> <ma...@helzberg.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello, I am wondering if any of you use Apache on Windows, and if
> so what your experience has been like so far.
>
>
>
> Thanks, RL. Fox.
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache on Windows
Posted by Steve Swift <st...@gmail.com>.
I have a very light-weight server running under Windows at
http://swiftys.org.uk
The homepage leads nowhere, and I don't advertise the pages on this site. I
use it for CGI scripting and demonstration pages, by invitation only.
Overall I'm very happy with it. It doesn't restart cleanly from the control
in the system area, but doing a stop followed by a start gets around that.
On 06/03/07, Randall Fox <RL...@helzberg.com> wrote:
>
> Hello, I am wondering if any of you use Apache on Windows, and if so
> what your experience has been like so far.
>
>
>
> Thanks, RL. Fox.
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache on Windows
Posted by matt farey <ma...@gmail.com>.
Nathan Kellogg wrote:
>
>
> Does this mean that an XP box running Apache would be limited to 10
> concurrent web browser users? My impression of this was that the
> connection limit only applied to the Windows Network connections and
> not to http/https/etc...
if you don't patch the tcp stack, service pack 2, "sort of". HTTP/1.1
provides for pipelining requests via keepalives, so this is the
2concurrent requests per domain - and this is how the whole web works, -
unless you use many sub domains (3rd level domains) in your (x)html
markup, its not an issue for the individual.
However hitting the limit would be similar to a DoS but in web terms
this never really arises unless you are serving large files, because the
connection is over quickly, chances are anyone using XP is at home on
ADSL so the bandwidth issue crops up before the concurrent connection
limit anyhooo.
When you consider that this connection limit was introduced to help stop
worms proliferating, and that this is an exponential growth anyway, it
seems obvious that its fine to patch it back to more than 10!
>
>
>> In fact it is metered by NTLM authentication, if you loaded
>> mod_auth_sspi
>> or configured IIS for auth, you will observe this to be enforced. Ten
>> authenticated clients is a hard limit.
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache on Windows
Posted by Nathan Kellogg <ap...@nwlocation.com>.
Does this mean that an XP box running Apache would be limited to 10
concurrent web browser users? My impression of this was that the
connection limit only applied to the Windows Network connections and not to
http/https/etc...
>In fact it is metered by NTLM authentication, if you loaded mod_auth_sspi
>or configured IIS for auth, you will observe this to be enforced. Ten
>authenticated clients is a hard limit.
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache on Windows
Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
Arthur Kreitman wrote:
> One caution for Apache on XP. The licensing for XP limits you to 10
> simultaneous incoming tcp connections.
Of course that's the word of the license. Obviously 'what's a connection'
is always interesting, you end up with far more than 10 connections using
email/web/chat all at the same time, browsers will create two parallel
connections at once (pipelining images/scripts/css as they are referenced
by the main document), ftp is actually two sockets (data and control), etc...
the spirit of the document implies 10 users.
In fact it is metered by NTLM authentication, if you loaded mod_auth_sspi
or configured IIS for auth, you will observe this to be enforced. Ten
authenticated clients is a hard limit.
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RE: [users@httpd] Apache on Windows
Posted by Arthur Kreitman <ar...@congruent.com>.
One caution for Apache on XP. The licensing for XP limits you to 10
simultaneous incoming tcp connections.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Simon [mailto:getpsimon@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:33 AM
> To: users@httpd.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache on Windows
>
> I've been running apache on windows (2003, 2000, XP) for the last 4
years.
> One server is for
> proxying (mod_proxy and OpenSSL) and the other is for running php
apps.
> The servers get about
> 5000 visitors daily. There haven't been any serious issues.
>
> My experience is that it's more challenging running apache on windows
than
> *nix. Of course, it
> all depends on what you are trying to do...
>
> --- Randall Fox <RL...@helzberg.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello, I am wondering if any of you use Apache on Windows, and if so
> > what your experience has been like so far.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks, RL. Fox.
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache on Windows
Posted by Paul Simon <ge...@yahoo.com>.
I've been running apache on windows (2003, 2000, XP) for the last 4 years. One server is for
proxying (mod_proxy and OpenSSL) and the other is for running php apps. The servers get about
5000 visitors daily. There haven't been any serious issues.
My experience is that it's more challenging running apache on windows than *nix. Of course, it
all depends on what you are trying to do...
--- Randall Fox <RL...@helzberg.com> wrote:
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> what your experience has been like so far.
>
>
>
> Thanks, RL. Fox.
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