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Posted to dev@forrest.apache.org by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org> on 2003/12/24 11:07:09 UTC
Re: can i temporarily disable mail delivery from this list?
On Dec 22, 2003, at 12:33 PM, Jorg Heymans wrote:
> Other mailinglists have like a settings page, but on the cocoon
> website i could only find subscribe/unsubscribe. My mailbox is quite
> limited :(
Your only option is to unsubscribe. If you post as a non-subscriber
(because you're reading the list through Gmane or the like), your
message ends up in the moderation queue (i.e. Andrew and me), and we'll
moderate you through (and add your email address to a list of
'known-good' posters for future posts).
There's quite a few people apparently working in this mode, AFAIK.
Oh, also on the subject of mailing lists, here's some Christmas stats:
users@cocoon.apache.org
Subscribers: 1039
Digest readers: 71
dev@cocoon.apache.org
Subscribers: 465
Digest readers: 19
cvs@cocoon.apache.org
Subscribers: 116
Digest readers: 1
docs@cocoon.apache.org
Subscribers: 115
Digest readers: 1
forrest-dev@xml.apache.org
Subscribers: 232
Digest readers: 3
forrest-cvs@xml.apache.org
Subscribers: 67
lenya-dev@cocoon.apache.org
Subscribers: 110
Digest readers: 1
lenya-user@cocoon.apache.org
Subscribers: 197
Digest readers: 2
lenya-cvs@cocoon.apache.org
Subscribers: 26
HTH,
</Steven>
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Re: can i temporarily disable mail delivery from this list?
Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
On Dec 24, 2003, at 11:32 AM, Sylvain Wallez wrote:
> Do these stats also include "allow-subscribed" people ?
I would have to check with Ken who provides the ezmlm stats service,
but I'm not convinced that it would add up to something meaningful -
since there's a fair number of "one-post-wonders" in the allow database
(i.e. from crossposting, or change of email addresses, etc). Gmane
messes up these stats anyhow, I'm afraid. Add distro mirroring into
this equation, and it becomes rather difficult to measure the effective
growth (or decline) of a project's popularity (especially its user
community, since developers tend to be more physically present on the
lists - writing mails). That's where Sourceforge beats ASF in terms of
gauging project activity (although the activity stats of SF don't
represent that much valuable info of course).
</Steven>
--
Steven Noels http://outerthought.org/
Outerthought - Open Source Java & XML An Orixo Member
Read my weblog at http://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/
stevenn at outerthought.org stevenn at apache.org
Re: can i temporarily disable mail delivery from this list?
Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
On Dec 24, 2003, at 11:32 AM, Sylvain Wallez wrote:
> Do these stats also include "allow-subscribed" people ?
I would have to check with Ken who provides the ezmlm stats service,
but I'm not convinced that it would add up to something meaningful -
since there's a fair number of "one-post-wonders" in the allow database
(i.e. from crossposting, or change of email addresses, etc). Gmane
messes up these stats anyhow, I'm afraid. Add distro mirroring into
this equation, and it becomes rather difficult to measure the effective
growth (or decline) of a project's popularity (especially its user
community, since developers tend to be more physically present on the
lists - writing mails). That's where Sourceforge beats ASF in terms of
gauging project activity (although the activity stats of SF don't
represent that much valuable info of course).
</Steven>
--
Steven Noels http://outerthought.org/
Outerthought - Open Source Java & XML An Orixo Member
Read my weblog at http://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/
stevenn at outerthought.org stevenn at apache.org
Re: can i temporarily disable mail delivery from this list?
Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
On Dec 24, 2003, at 11:32 AM, Sylvain Wallez wrote:
> Do these stats also include "allow-subscribed" people ?
I would have to check with Ken who provides the ezmlm stats service,
but I'm not convinced that it would add up to something meaningful -
since there's a fair number of "one-post-wonders" in the allow database
(i.e. from crossposting, or change of email addresses, etc). Gmane
messes up these stats anyhow, I'm afraid. Add distro mirroring into
this equation, and it becomes rather difficult to measure the effective
growth (or decline) of a project's popularity (especially its user
community, since developers tend to be more physically present on the
lists - writing mails). That's where Sourceforge beats ASF in terms of
gauging project activity (although the activity stats of SF don't
represent that much valuable info of course).
</Steven>
--
Steven Noels http://outerthought.org/
Outerthought - Open Source Java & XML An Orixo Member
Read my weblog at http://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/
stevenn at outerthought.org stevenn at apache.org
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Re: can i temporarily disable mail delivery from this list?
Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
On Dec 24, 2003, at 11:32 AM, Sylvain Wallez wrote:
> Do these stats also include "allow-subscribed" people ?
I would have to check with Ken who provides the ezmlm stats service,
but I'm not convinced that it would add up to something meaningful -
since there's a fair number of "one-post-wonders" in the allow database
(i.e. from crossposting, or change of email addresses, etc). Gmane
messes up these stats anyhow, I'm afraid. Add distro mirroring into
this equation, and it becomes rather difficult to measure the effective
growth (or decline) of a project's popularity (especially its user
community, since developers tend to be more physically present on the
lists - writing mails). That's where Sourceforge beats ASF in terms of
gauging project activity (although the activity stats of SF don't
represent that much valuable info of course).
</Steven>
--
Steven Noels http://outerthought.org/
Outerthought - Open Source Java & XML An Orixo Member
Read my weblog at http://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/
stevenn at outerthought.org stevenn at apache.org
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Re: can i temporarily disable mail delivery from this list?
Posted by Sylvain Wallez <sy...@apache.org>.
Steven Noels wrote:
> On Dec 22, 2003, at 12:33 PM, Jorg Heymans wrote:
>
>> Other mailinglists have like a settings page, but on the cocoon
>> website i could only find subscribe/unsubscribe. My mailbox is quite
>> limited :(
>
>
> Your only option is to unsubscribe. If you post as a non-subscriber
> (because you're reading the list through Gmane or the like), your
> message ends up in the moderation queue (i.e. Andrew and me), and
> we'll moderate you through (and add your email address to a list of
> 'known-good' posters for future posts).
>
> There's quite a few people apparently working in this mode, AFAIK.
I'm subscribed to many mailing-lists in "allow" mode, which means I can
freely post messages but do not receive them, as I read and post to
these lists through gmane.
To achieve this, use "[list-name]-allow-subscribe@..." instead of
"[list-name]-subscribe@...".
> Oh, also on the subject of mailing lists, here's some Christmas stats:
<snip/>
Do these stats also include "allow-subscribed" people ?
Sylvain
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Re: can i temporarily disable mail delivery from this list?
Posted by Sylvain Wallez <sy...@apache.org>.
Steven Noels wrote:
> On Dec 22, 2003, at 12:33 PM, Jorg Heymans wrote:
>
>> Other mailinglists have like a settings page, but on the cocoon
>> website i could only find subscribe/unsubscribe. My mailbox is quite
>> limited :(
>
>
> Your only option is to unsubscribe. If you post as a non-subscriber
> (because you're reading the list through Gmane or the like), your
> message ends up in the moderation queue (i.e. Andrew and me), and
> we'll moderate you through (and add your email address to a list of
> 'known-good' posters for future posts).
>
> There's quite a few people apparently working in this mode, AFAIK.
I'm subscribed to many mailing-lists in "allow" mode, which means I can
freely post messages but do not receive them, as I read and post to
these lists through gmane.
To achieve this, use "[list-name]-allow-subscribe@..." instead of
"[list-name]-subscribe@...".
> Oh, also on the subject of mailing lists, here's some Christmas stats:
<snip/>
Do these stats also include "allow-subscribed" people ?
Sylvain
--
Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies
http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com
{ XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects }
Orixo, the opensource XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com
Re: can i temporarily disable mail delivery from this list?
Posted by Sylvain Wallez <sy...@apache.org>.
Steven Noels wrote:
> On Dec 22, 2003, at 12:33 PM, Jorg Heymans wrote:
>
>> Other mailinglists have like a settings page, but on the cocoon
>> website i could only find subscribe/unsubscribe. My mailbox is quite
>> limited :(
>
>
> Your only option is to unsubscribe. If you post as a non-subscriber
> (because you're reading the list through Gmane or the like), your
> message ends up in the moderation queue (i.e. Andrew and me), and
> we'll moderate you through (and add your email address to a list of
> 'known-good' posters for future posts).
>
> There's quite a few people apparently working in this mode, AFAIK.
I'm subscribed to many mailing-lists in "allow" mode, which means I can
freely post messages but do not receive them, as I read and post to
these lists through gmane.
To achieve this, use "[list-name]-allow-subscribe@..." instead of
"[list-name]-subscribe@...".
> Oh, also on the subject of mailing lists, here's some Christmas stats:
<snip/>
Do these stats also include "allow-subscribed" people ?
Sylvain
--
Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies
http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com
{ XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects }
Orixo, the opensource XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com
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