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Posted to dev@community.apache.org by Rich Bowen <rb...@redhat.com> on 2014/06/26 15:47:50 UTC

ApacheCon CFP closed, now the hard work starts

For those of you who have agreed to participate in filtering and 
selecting talks for Apachecon EU, the time has arrived.

If you have not yet logged in to the CFP system - 
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/cfp-list?field_presentation_event_target_id%5B%5D=2260 
- please verify that you can do so now. And then jump in and get started.

Please note that we have 210 talk submissions right now, and while not 
all of them are regular sessions (ie, Tutorials, etc, are also in here), 
that means that we have to eliminate close to half of these proposals, 
so you're going to need to be brutal. Please don't just rate everything 
'Accept'.

No, I don't know for sure yet how many tracks we're going to run, but we 
have room for 5 or 6 tracks 3 days, and a day/track is 6 talks. That's 
108 talks plus roughly 10% extra for fallbacks for slots that drop out.

--Rich

-- 
Rich Bowen - rbowen@redhat.com
OpenStack Community Liaison
http://openstack.redhat.com/


Re: ApacheCon CFP closed, now the hard work starts

Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On 06/26/2014 06:39 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Rich Bowen<rb...@redhat.com>  wrote:
>> >For those of you who have agreed to participate in filtering and selecting
>> >talks for Apachecon EU, the time has arrived.
>> >
>> >If you have not yet logged in to the CFP system -
>> >http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/cfp-list?field_presentation_event_target_id%5B%5D=2260
>> >- please verify that you can do so now. And then jump in and get started.
>> >
>> >Please note that we have 210 talk submissions right now, and while not all
>> >of them are regular sessions (ie, Tutorials, etc, are also in here), that
>> >means that we have to eliminate close to half of these proposals, so you're
>> >going to need to be brutal. Please don't just rate everything 'Accept'.
>> >
>> >No, I don't know for sure yet how many tracks we're going to run, but we
>> >have room for 5 or 6 tracks 3 days, and a day/track is 6 talks. That's 108
>> >talks plus roughly 10% extra for fallbacks for slots that drop out.
> Would it actually makes sense to use ACNA14 Google spreadsheet
> as a template for not only rating, but putting into a given track? We
> can always merge tracks later if we end up having less rooms,
> but I think having that grid from the get go would be useful.
>
> Thoughts?
Yeah, that's probably the right way to go about it. I'll try to get that 
set up today if nobody beats me to it

-- 
Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon


Re: ApacheCon CFP closed, now the hard work starts

Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Rich Bowen <rb...@redhat.com> wrote:
> For those of you who have agreed to participate in filtering and selecting
> talks for Apachecon EU, the time has arrived.
>
> If you have not yet logged in to the CFP system -
> http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/cfp-list?field_presentation_event_target_id%5B%5D=2260
> - please verify that you can do so now. And then jump in and get started.
>
> Please note that we have 210 talk submissions right now, and while not all
> of them are regular sessions (ie, Tutorials, etc, are also in here), that
> means that we have to eliminate close to half of these proposals, so you're
> going to need to be brutal. Please don't just rate everything 'Accept'.
>
> No, I don't know for sure yet how many tracks we're going to run, but we
> have room for 5 or 6 tracks 3 days, and a day/track is 6 talks. That's 108
> talks plus roughly 10% extra for fallbacks for slots that drop out.

Would it actually makes sense to use ACNA14 Google spreadsheet
as a template for not only rating, but putting into a given track? We
can always merge tracks later if we end up having less rooms,
but I think having that grid from the get go would be useful.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Roman.

Re: ApacheCon CFP closed, now the hard work starts

Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On 06/26/2014 10:17 AM, Jan Willem Janssen wrote:
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> On 26/06/14 15:47, Rich Bowen wrote:
>> >For those of you who have agreed to participate in filtering and
>> >selecting talks for Apachecon EU, the time has arrived.
> I already started reviewing a couple, but the CFP system has the
> tendency to lose my filter settings after each review:(  Is there a
> way we can ping the nice folks at LF on fixing this? It would really
> make my reviewing experience a lot easier...
The short answer is no. The longer answer is that the CFP system is a 
work in progress, and we have fed numerous feature requests into it, 
including this one, and they are on the way, but won't make it for this 
event.

--Rich

-- 
Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon


Re: ApacheCon CFP closed, now the hard work starts

Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
Rich,

Including a column that shows the main project involved might also help.

Regards,


Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com


On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:

>
> On 06/26/2014 10:20 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
>
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>> On 06/26/2014 09:17 AM, Jan Willem Janssen wrote:
>>
>>> I already started reviewing a couple, but the CFP system has the
>>> tendency to lose my filter settings after each review :( Is there
>>> a way we can ping the nice folks at LF on fixing this? It would
>>> really make my reviewing experience a lot easier...
>>>
>> Last time I reviewed something in the LF's CfP system, they said it
>> was OK to just download the CSV file and work through it in a
>> spreadsheet.
>>
>> I too find the system a bit cumbersome, though the CSV is only
>> marginally less so.
>>
>> If it's OK with C. this time around, you could do that instead.
>>
>
> I've got a spreadsheet at https://docs.google.com/a/
> rcbowen.com/spreadsheets/d/1NSFxoGYkzpkorJkRN7CNnZpsaO59q
> ro3L5YjeTBVSZE/edit#gid=0 where I'll be attempting to break stuff up into
> tracks. What we did last time was that - we had a spreadsheet, we divided
> it into topics, and went through and marked stuff accepted or rejected
> based on CFP ratings. I've just started that process, and don't expect to
> get anything done today or tomorrow, but if we work together on the "split
> into tracks" bit, then there's much less for folks to review - you just
> review the topics that you know something about. Sound reasonable?
>
> --Rich
>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>
>

Re: ApacheCon CFP closed, now the hard work starts

Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On 06/26/2014 10:20 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
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>
> On 06/26/2014 09:17 AM, Jan Willem Janssen wrote:
>> I already started reviewing a couple, but the CFP system has the
>> tendency to lose my filter settings after each review :( Is there
>> a way we can ping the nice folks at LF on fixing this? It would
>> really make my reviewing experience a lot easier...
> Last time I reviewed something in the LF's CfP system, they said it
> was OK to just download the CSV file and work through it in a
> spreadsheet.
>
> I too find the system a bit cumbersome, though the CSV is only
> marginally less so.
>
> If it's OK with C. this time around, you could do that instead.

I've got a spreadsheet at 
https://docs.google.com/a/rcbowen.com/spreadsheets/d/1NSFxoGYkzpkorJkRN7CNnZpsaO59qro3L5YjeTBVSZE/edit#gid=0 
where I'll be attempting to break stuff up into tracks. What we did last 
time was that - we had a spreadsheet, we divided it into topics, and 
went through and marked stuff accepted or rejected based on CFP ratings. 
I've just started that process, and don't expect to get anything done 
today or tomorrow, but if we work together on the "split into tracks" 
bit, then there's much less for folks to review - you just review the 
topics that you know something about. Sound reasonable?

--Rich

-- 
Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon


Re: ApacheCon CFP closed, now the hard work starts

Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On 06/26/2014 10:51 AM, C. Craig Ross wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Thanks for reaching out. I am just fine receiving a spreadsheet (or sheets)
> as needed. The only requirement that we have is that the final sheet - that
> we will use for preparing the schedule and sending out notifications must
> include *all fields* that were included in the initial export so please do
> not delete any columns. It does not need to include any comments or
> individual rankings either, just the final status of "Accepted",
> "Rejected", or "Wait Listed".
>
> Please don't hesitate to contact me with any questions.

I remember that last year you got more fields when you exported (as an 
admin?) than I did. Can you check 
https://docs.google.com/a/rcbowen.com/spreadsheets/d/1NSFxoGYkzpkorJkRN7CNnZpsaO59qro3L5YjeTBVSZE/edit#gid=0 
to ensure that I've got all the fields you need?

> C.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
>
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>> On 06/26/2014 09:28 AM, Jan Willem Janssen wrote:
>>> Didn't know about the export-to-CSV option, I'll check it out how
>>> it works...
>> At the bottom of the page, there's a little orange (I think) CSV
>> button. Very small, easy to miss.
>>
>> I'd make sure that C. is OK with receiving spreadsheets again before
>> going that route. I'm CC'ing C. here to see if he's good with that.
>>
>> (C.: Jan was having trouble with the CfP system losing his place, and
>> I mentioned in the past you've been OK with getting a spreadsheet
>> instead of using the CfP system. I wasn't sure if that was a one-time
>> thing or if you'd be OK with it here from the folks doing the
>> ApacheCon rating.)
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> jzb
>> - --
>> Joe Brockmeier
>> jzb@zonker.net
>> Twitter: @jzb
>> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
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>

-- 
Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon


Re: ApacheCon CFP closed, now the hard work starts

Posted by "C. Craig Ross" <cc...@linuxfoundation.org>.
Hey,

Thanks for reaching out. I am just fine receiving a spreadsheet (or sheets)
as needed. The only requirement that we have is that the final sheet - that
we will use for preparing the schedule and sending out notifications must
include *all fields* that were included in the initial export so please do
not delete any columns. It does not need to include any comments or
individual rankings either, just the final status of "Accepted",
"Rejected", or "Wait Listed".

Please don't hesitate to contact me with any questions.

C.


On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:

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> On 06/26/2014 09:28 AM, Jan Willem Janssen wrote:
> > Didn't know about the export-to-CSV option, I'll check it out how
> > it works...
>
> At the bottom of the page, there's a little orange (I think) CSV
> button. Very small, easy to miss.
>
> I'd make sure that C. is OK with receiving spreadsheets again before
> going that route. I'm CC'ing C. here to see if he's good with that.
>
> (C.: Jan was having trouble with the CfP system losing his place, and
> I mentioned in the past you've been OK with getting a spreadsheet
> instead of using the CfP system. I wasn't sure if that was a one-time
> thing or if you'd be OK with it here from the folks doing the
> ApacheCon rating.)
>
> Best,
>
> jzb
> - --
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
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-- 
C. Craig Ross
Creative Services & Developer Programs Manager
The Linux Foundation
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/

Re: ApacheCon CFP closed, now the hard work starts

Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
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On 06/26/2014 09:28 AM, Jan Willem Janssen wrote:
> Didn't know about the export-to-CSV option, I'll check it out how
> it works...

At the bottom of the page, there's a little orange (I think) CSV
button. Very small, easy to miss.

I'd make sure that C. is OK with receiving spreadsheets again before
going that route. I'm CC'ing C. here to see if he's good with that.

(C.: Jan was having trouble with the CfP system losing his place, and
I mentioned in the past you've been OK with getting a spreadsheet
instead of using the CfP system. I wasn't sure if that was a one-time
thing or if you'd be OK with it here from the folks doing the
ApacheCon rating.)

Best,

jzb
- -- 
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
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Re: ApacheCon CFP closed, now the hard work starts

Posted by Jan Willem Janssen <ja...@luminis.eu>.
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On 26/06/14 16:20, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> On 06/26/2014 09:17 AM, Jan Willem Janssen wrote:
>>> I already started reviewing a couple, but the CFP system has
>>> the tendency to lose my filter settings after each review :( Is
>>> there a way we can ping the nice folks at LF on fixing this? It
>>> would really make my reviewing experience a lot easier...
> Last time I reviewed something in the LF's CfP system, they said
> it was OK to just download the CSV file and work through it in a 
> spreadsheet.
> 
> I too find the system a bit cumbersome, though the CSV is only 
> marginally less so.
> 
> If it's OK with C. this time around, you could do that instead.

Didn't know about the export-to-CSV option, I'll check it out how it
works...

- -- 
Met vriendelijke groeten | Kind regards

Jan Willem Janssen | Software Architect
+31 631 765 814

/My world is revolving around PulseOn and Amdatu/

Luminis Technologies B.V.
J.C. Wilslaan 29
7313 HK   Apeldoorn
+31 88 586 46 30

http://www.luminis-technologies.com
http://www.luminis.eu

KvK (CoC) 09 16 28 93
BTW (VAT) NL8169.78.566.B.01
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Re: ApacheCon CFP closed, now the hard work starts

Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
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On 06/26/2014 09:17 AM, Jan Willem Janssen wrote:
> I already started reviewing a couple, but the CFP system has the 
> tendency to lose my filter settings after each review :( Is there
> a way we can ping the nice folks at LF on fixing this? It would
> really make my reviewing experience a lot easier...

Last time I reviewed something in the LF's CfP system, they said it
was OK to just download the CSV file and work through it in a
spreadsheet.

I too find the system a bit cumbersome, though the CSV is only
marginally less so.

If it's OK with C. this time around, you could do that instead.

Best,

jzb
- -- 
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
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Re: ApacheCon CFP closed, now the hard work starts

Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
Rich,

Thanks, I will confer with the submitters to see where stuff can be
combined.

Regards,

Pierre

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com


On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:

>
> On 06/26/2014 10:20 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>
>> Rich,
>>
>> Doesn't the number of talks per day or even track also depend on the
>> duration of each talk?
>>
>> What is the goal (duration wise)? I have about 10 OFBiz talks lined up,
>> but
>> don't have a clue yet about how long each is intended to be.
>>
>
>
> The assumption is 50-minute talks, which gives a 6 hour day, plus breaks
> and lunch.
>
> Some tracks (eg, Fast Feather) do different talk lengths, and we're open
> to that if you want to discuss a different track format. Just let me know
> soonish.
>
> --Rich
>
>
>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Pierre Smits
>>
>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>
>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>> Services and Retail & Trade
>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Jan Willem Janssen <
>> janwillem.janssen@luminis.eu> wrote:
>>
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>>> On 26/06/14 15:47, Rich Bowen wrote:
>>>
>>>> For those of you who have agreed to participate in filtering and
>>>> selecting talks for Apachecon EU, the time has arrived.
>>>>
>>> I already started reviewing a couple, but the CFP system has the
>>> tendency to lose my filter settings after each review :( Is there a
>>> way we can ping the nice folks at LF on fixing this? It would really
>>> make my reviewing experience a lot easier...
>>>
>>> - --
>>> Met vriendelijke groeten | Kind regards
>>>
>>> Jan Willem Janssen | Software Architect
>>> +31 631 765 814
>>>
>>> /My world is revolving around PulseOn and Amdatu/
>>>
>>> Luminis Technologies B.V.
>>> J.C. Wilslaan 29
>>> 7313 HK   Apeldoorn
>>> +31 88 586 46 30
>>>
>>> http://www.luminis-technologies.com
>>> http://www.luminis.eu
>>>
>>> KvK (CoC) 09 16 28 93
>>> BTW (VAT) NL8169.78.566.B.01
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> --
> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>
>

Re: ApacheCon CFP closed, now the hard work starts

Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On 06/26/2014 10:20 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
> Rich,
>
> Doesn't the number of talks per day or even track also depend on the
> duration of each talk?
>
> What is the goal (duration wise)? I have about 10 OFBiz talks lined up, but
> don't have a clue yet about how long each is intended to be.


The assumption is 50-minute talks, which gives a 6 hour day, plus breaks 
and lunch.

Some tracks (eg, Fast Feather) do different talk lengths, and we're open 
to that if you want to discuss a different track format. Just let me 
know soonish.

--Rich


>
> Regards,
>
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Jan Willem Janssen <
> janwillem.janssen@luminis.eu> wrote:
>
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>> On 26/06/14 15:47, Rich Bowen wrote:
>>> For those of you who have agreed to participate in filtering and
>>> selecting talks for Apachecon EU, the time has arrived.
>> I already started reviewing a couple, but the CFP system has the
>> tendency to lose my filter settings after each review :( Is there a
>> way we can ping the nice folks at LF on fixing this? It would really
>> make my reviewing experience a lot easier...
>>
>> - --
>> Met vriendelijke groeten | Kind regards
>>
>> Jan Willem Janssen | Software Architect
>> +31 631 765 814
>>
>> /My world is revolving around PulseOn and Amdatu/
>>
>> Luminis Technologies B.V.
>> J.C. Wilslaan 29
>> 7313 HK   Apeldoorn
>> +31 88 586 46 30
>>
>> http://www.luminis-technologies.com
>> http://www.luminis.eu
>>
>> KvK (CoC) 09 16 28 93
>> BTW (VAT) NL8169.78.566.B.01
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-- 
Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon


Re: ApacheCon CFP closed, now the hard work starts

Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
Rich,

Doesn't the number of talks per day or even track also depend on the
duration of each talk?

What is the goal (duration wise)? I have about 10 OFBiz talks lined up, but
don't have a clue yet about how long each is intended to be.

Regards,


Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com


On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Jan Willem Janssen <
janwillem.janssen@luminis.eu> wrote:

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> On 26/06/14 15:47, Rich Bowen wrote:
> > For those of you who have agreed to participate in filtering and
> > selecting talks for Apachecon EU, the time has arrived.
>
> I already started reviewing a couple, but the CFP system has the
> tendency to lose my filter settings after each review :( Is there a
> way we can ping the nice folks at LF on fixing this? It would really
> make my reviewing experience a lot easier...
>
> - --
> Met vriendelijke groeten | Kind regards
>
> Jan Willem Janssen | Software Architect
> +31 631 765 814
>
> /My world is revolving around PulseOn and Amdatu/
>
> Luminis Technologies B.V.
> J.C. Wilslaan 29
> 7313 HK   Apeldoorn
> +31 88 586 46 30
>
> http://www.luminis-technologies.com
> http://www.luminis.eu
>
> KvK (CoC) 09 16 28 93
> BTW (VAT) NL8169.78.566.B.01
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Re: ApacheCon CFP closed, now the hard work starts

Posted by Jan Willem Janssen <ja...@luminis.eu>.
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On 26/06/14 15:47, Rich Bowen wrote:
> For those of you who have agreed to participate in filtering and 
> selecting talks for Apachecon EU, the time has arrived.

I already started reviewing a couple, but the CFP system has the
tendency to lose my filter settings after each review :( Is there a
way we can ping the nice folks at LF on fixing this? It would really
make my reviewing experience a lot easier...

- -- 
Met vriendelijke groeten | Kind regards

Jan Willem Janssen | Software Architect
+31 631 765 814

/My world is revolving around PulseOn and Amdatu/

Luminis Technologies B.V.
J.C. Wilslaan 29
7313 HK   Apeldoorn
+31 88 586 46 30

http://www.luminis-technologies.com
http://www.luminis.eu

KvK (CoC) 09 16 28 93
BTW (VAT) NL8169.78.566.B.01
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