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Posted to solr-user@lucene.apache.org by Arcadius Ahouansou <ar...@menelic.com> on 2011/08/15 12:11:36 UTC
Migration from Autonomy IDOL to SOLR
Hello.
We have a couple of application running on half a dozen Autonomy IDOL
servers.
Currently, all feature we need are supported by Solr.
We have done some internal testing and realized that SOLR would do a better
job.
So, we are investigation all possibilities for a smooth migration from IDOL
to SOLR.
I am looking for advice from people who went through something similar.
Ideally, we would like to keep most of our legacy code unchanged and have a
kind of query-translation-layer plugged into our app if possible.
-Is there lib available?
-Any thought?
Thanks.
Arcadius.
Re: Migration from Autonomy IDOL to SOLR
Posted by Arcadius Ahouansou <ar...@menelic.com>.
Hello Karsten.
>From the doc you provided, it seems the two are totally different products.
I thought a bit about it and it seems that the best aproach would be to:
1-refactor our app and add an abstraction layer that will call the IDOL ACI
API.
Make sure we have good tests in place.
2-implement a "solr-dialect" for the abstraction layer that we can switch on
or off in config.
Thanks.
Arcadius.
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 4:09 PM, <ka...@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi Arcadius,
>
> currently we have a migration project from verity k2 search server to solr.
> I do not know IDOL, but autonomy bought verity before IDOL was released, so
> possible it is comparable?
> verity k2 works directly on xml-Files, in result the query syntax is a
> little bit like xpath e.g. with "text1 <IN> zone2 <IN> zone1" instead of
> contains(//zone1/zone2,'text1').
>
> About verity query syntax:
>
> http://gregconely.getmyip.com/dl/OTG%20Software/5.30.087%20Suite%20%28SP3%29/Disc%204%20-%20Verity/Verity%20K2%20Server%205.5/doc/docs/pdf/VerityQueryLanguage.pdf
>
> Does IDOL work the same way?
>
>
> Best regards
> Karsten
>
> P.S. in Context:
>
> http://lucene.472066.n3.nabble.com/Migration-from-Autonomy-IDOL-to-SOLR-td3255377.html
>
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > Datum: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:11:36 +0100
> > Von: Arcadius Ahouansou <ar...@menelic.com>
> > An: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> > Betreff: Migration from Autonomy IDOL to SOLR
>
> > Hello.
> >
> > We have a couple of application running on half a dozen Autonomy IDOL
> > servers.
> > Currently, all feature we need are supported by Solr.
> >
> > We have done some internal testing and realized that SOLR would do a
> > better
> > job.
> >
> > So, we are investigation all possibilities for a smooth migration from
> > IDOL
> > to SOLR.
> >
> > I am looking for advice from people who went through something similar.
> >
> > Ideally, we would like to keep most of our legacy code unchanged and have
> > a
> > kind of query-translation-layer plugged into our app if possible.
> >
> > -Is there lib available?
> >
> > -Any thought?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Arcadius.
>
Re: Migration from Autonomy IDOL to SOLR
Posted by ka...@gmx.de.
Hi Arcadius,
currently we have a migration project from verity k2 search server to solr.
I do not know IDOL, but autonomy bought verity before IDOL was released, so possible it is comparable?
verity k2 works directly on xml-Files, in result the query syntax is a little bit like xpath e.g. with "text1 <IN> zone2 <IN> zone1" instead of contains(//zone1/zone2,'text1').
About verity query syntax:
http://gregconely.getmyip.com/dl/OTG%20Software/5.30.087%20Suite%20%28SP3%29/Disc%204%20-%20Verity/Verity%20K2%20Server%205.5/doc/docs/pdf/VerityQueryLanguage.pdf
Does IDOL work the same way?
Best regards
Karsten
P.S. in Context:
http://lucene.472066.n3.nabble.com/Migration-from-Autonomy-IDOL-to-SOLR-td3255377.html
-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:11:36 +0100
> Von: Arcadius Ahouansou <ar...@menelic.com>
> An: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> Betreff: Migration from Autonomy IDOL to SOLR
> Hello.
>
> We have a couple of application running on half a dozen Autonomy IDOL
> servers.
> Currently, all feature we need are supported by Solr.
>
> We have done some internal testing and realized that SOLR would do a
> better
> job.
>
> So, we are investigation all possibilities for a smooth migration from
> IDOL
> to SOLR.
>
> I am looking for advice from people who went through something similar.
>
> Ideally, we would like to keep most of our legacy code unchanged and have
> a
> kind of query-translation-layer plugged into our app if possible.
>
> -Is there lib available?
>
> -Any thought?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Arcadius.
Re: Migration from Autonomy IDOL to SOLR
Posted by Alexei Martchenko <al...@superdownloads.com.br>.
Yea sorry for not helping much, but while I was comparing solr to verity
i've found several docs specific for users having trouble migrating from
verity to solr. They might not be api-specific but give some clue.
2011/8/15 Arcadius Ahouansou <ar...@menelic.com>
> Hi Alexei.
> I had a quick look and it seems that Adobe provides their CF tag as a
> wrapper around the verity/solr API, therefore, the application code is not
> poluated with client specific API.
> This makes app migration easier.
>
> Thanks for the input.
>
> Arcadius.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Alexei Martchenko <
> alexei@superdownloads.com.br> wrote:
>
> > This might be a longshot but... Adobe is deprecating Verity in Coldfusion
> > engine. Version 9 has both databases but I believe CF10 will only have
> Solr
> > bundled. Idol is the-new-verity since autonomy acquired verity. Although
> > Adobe wraps solr to work like old verity, there might be some info on
> > people
> > who migrated from verity from solr few years ago.
> >
> > Sorry for not helping much but sometimes these little information leads
> to
> > something.
> >
> > 2011/8/15 Arcadius Ahouansou <ar...@menelic.com>
> >
> > > Hello.
> > >
> > > We have a couple of application running on half a dozen Autonomy IDOL
> > > servers.
> > > Currently, all feature we need are supported by Solr.
> > >
> > > We have done some internal testing and realized that SOLR would do a
> > better
> > > job.
> > >
> > > So, we are investigation all possibilities for a smooth migration from
> > IDOL
> > > to SOLR.
> > >
> > > I am looking for advice from people who went through something similar.
> > >
> > > Ideally, we would like to keep most of our legacy code unchanged and
> have
> > a
> > > kind of query-translation-layer plugged into our app if possible.
> > >
> > > -Is there lib available?
> > >
> > > -Any thought?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Arcadius.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > *Alexei Martchenko* | *CEO* | Superdownloads
> > alexei@superdownloads.com.br | alexei@martchenko.com.br | (11)
> > 5083.1018/5080.3535/5080.3533
> >
>
Re: Migration from Autonomy IDOL to SOLR
Posted by Arcadius Ahouansou <ar...@menelic.com>.
Hi Alexei.
I had a quick look and it seems that Adobe provides their CF tag as a
wrapper around the verity/solr API, therefore, the application code is not
poluated with client specific API.
This makes app migration easier.
Thanks for the input.
Arcadius.
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Alexei Martchenko <
alexei@superdownloads.com.br> wrote:
> This might be a longshot but... Adobe is deprecating Verity in Coldfusion
> engine. Version 9 has both databases but I believe CF10 will only have Solr
> bundled. Idol is the-new-verity since autonomy acquired verity. Although
> Adobe wraps solr to work like old verity, there might be some info on
> people
> who migrated from verity from solr few years ago.
>
> Sorry for not helping much but sometimes these little information leads to
> something.
>
> 2011/8/15 Arcadius Ahouansou <ar...@menelic.com>
>
> > Hello.
> >
> > We have a couple of application running on half a dozen Autonomy IDOL
> > servers.
> > Currently, all feature we need are supported by Solr.
> >
> > We have done some internal testing and realized that SOLR would do a
> better
> > job.
> >
> > So, we are investigation all possibilities for a smooth migration from
> IDOL
> > to SOLR.
> >
> > I am looking for advice from people who went through something similar.
> >
> > Ideally, we would like to keep most of our legacy code unchanged and have
> a
> > kind of query-translation-layer plugged into our app if possible.
> >
> > -Is there lib available?
> >
> > -Any thought?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Arcadius.
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> *Alexei Martchenko* | *CEO* | Superdownloads
> alexei@superdownloads.com.br | alexei@martchenko.com.br | (11)
> 5083.1018/5080.3535/5080.3533
>
Re: Migration from Autonomy IDOL to SOLR
Posted by Alexei Martchenko <al...@superdownloads.com.br>.
This might be a longshot but... Adobe is deprecating Verity in Coldfusion
engine. Version 9 has both databases but I believe CF10 will only have Solr
bundled. Idol is the-new-verity since autonomy acquired verity. Although
Adobe wraps solr to work like old verity, there might be some info on people
who migrated from verity from solr few years ago.
Sorry for not helping much but sometimes these little information leads to
something.
2011/8/15 Arcadius Ahouansou <ar...@menelic.com>
> Hello.
>
> We have a couple of application running on half a dozen Autonomy IDOL
> servers.
> Currently, all feature we need are supported by Solr.
>
> We have done some internal testing and realized that SOLR would do a better
> job.
>
> So, we are investigation all possibilities for a smooth migration from IDOL
> to SOLR.
>
> I am looking for advice from people who went through something similar.
>
> Ideally, we would like to keep most of our legacy code unchanged and have a
> kind of query-translation-layer plugged into our app if possible.
>
> -Is there lib available?
>
> -Any thought?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Arcadius.
>
--
*Alexei Martchenko* | *CEO* | Superdownloads
alexei@superdownloads.com.br | alexei@martchenko.com.br | (11)
5083.1018/5080.3535/5080.3533
Re: Migration from Autonomy IDOL to SOLR
Posted by Jack Krupansky <ja...@basetechnology.com>.
Thanks for posting this.
-- Jack Krupansky
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Subject: Re: Migration from Autonomy IDOL to SOLR
I know that this is an old thread, but I wanted to pass on some additional
information in blatant self promotion.
We've just completed an IDOL to Solr migration for our e commerce site with
approximately 40 Million items and anywhere between 200,000 to 300,000
searches per day. I am documenting some lessons learned some some product
discriminators here:
http://engineering2success.blogspot.com/
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Re: Migration from Autonomy IDOL to SOLR
Posted by wrdrvr <wr...@gmail.com>.
I know that this is an old thread, but I wanted to pass on some additional
information in blatant self promotion.
We've just completed an IDOL to Solr migration for our e commerce site with
approximately 40 Million items and anywhere between 200,000 to 300,000
searches per day. I am documenting some lessons learned some some product
discriminators here:
http://engineering2success.blogspot.com/
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Re: Migration from Autonomy IDOL to SOLR
Posted by abouahmad <ab...@rocketmail.com>.
Hello
This company has what you need : http://www.whitesources.com
They have tools to ease the migration from IDOL to SOLR.
Good luck
Abou
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