Village Code Grant

[Henning Schmiedehausen <he...@apache.org>]

Hi folks,

did that code grant materialize? I wasn't following too closely. 

	Best regards
		Henning




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Re: Village Code Grant

[Brendan Miller <bm...@dotster.com>]

On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 09:42:02AM +0200, Thomas Fischer wrote:
> 
> Sorry, it was commons-dbutils. http://commons.apache.org/dbutils/
> The idea would be to use the ResultSetHandler interface. I'm not sure
> whether we should use the QueryRunner, it uses prepared statements for
> selects; we have used normal statements until now. Using prepared
> statements could make type conversion easier(i.e. the db driver would do it
> for us), but maybe also less flexible. But maybe we should give it a try.
> What do you think ?
> 

Having just gone through the s/BasePeer.doSelect/BasePeer.doPSSelect/ on
all generated Base*Peer classes to reduce Oracle SQL cache flooding,
*please* do something that either uses prepared statements or can easily
be made to do so.  I'm still not sure why Base*Peer-generation does not
do this by default or at least have an option--having to rewrite the
generated code with ant seems weak.

Brendan


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RE: Village Code Grant

[Thomas Fischer <fi...@seitenbau.net>]

"Greg Monroe" <Gr...@DukeCE.com> schrieb am 15.08.2007 22:17:22:

>
> Thomas Fischer said:
> > Some time ago, Thomas V has suggested to use commons-sql
> > instead;
>
> I was going to take a quick look at commons-sql but all Google
> could find on the commons.apache.org site were old e-mails and
> a reference to a non-existent sandbox project.  What am I
> missing here?
>

Sorry, it was commons-dbutils. http://commons.apache.org/dbutils/
The idea would be to use the ResultSetHandler interface. I'm not sure
whether we should use the QueryRunner, it uses prepared statements for
selects; we have used normal statements until now. Using prepared
statements could make type conversion easier(i.e. the db driver would do it
for us), but maybe also less flexible. But maybe we should give it a try.
What do you think ?

    Thomas


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RE: Village Code Grant

[Greg Monroe <Gr...@DukeCE.com>]

 
Thomas Fischer said:
> Some time ago, Thomas V has suggested to use commons-sql 
> instead;

I was going to take a quick look at commons-sql but all Google 
could find on the commons.apache.org site were old e-mails and 
a reference to a non-existent sandbox project.  What am I 
missing here?

TIA

Greg
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RE: Village Code Grant

[Thomas Fischer <tf...@apache.org>]

+1,

   Thomas

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007, Greg Monroe wrote:

> One question, do we need to think about creating a separate
> jar for older versions of Torque?
>
> A quick way to do this might be to make sure the original
> import is tagged so it can be extracted. (Prior to any
> changes we might include with 3.3).  Then rather than deal
> with all the Maven issues, just modify the ant build script
> to have a target for this.
>
> So, if you need to rebuild the "original" jar, just check
> out the import tag to get the code (sans licensing comments).
> Then use the village-jar ant target.
>
> FYI, I can make time to do some licensing edits, etc. if you
> need help. I can do the ant mod's if that's the way we decide
> to go.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Thomas Vandahl [mailto:thomas.vandahl@tewisoft.de]
>> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 2:55 AM
>> To: Apache Torque Developers List
>> Subject: Re: Village Code Grant
>>
>> Thomas Fischer wrote:
>>> If Thomas V wants to pursue the integration of village into
>> torque further,
>>> the branch approach guarantees that this effort can also be pursued
>>> further.
>>
>> For the current release (3.3) I'd just add the Village
>> packages to the
>> runtime source and wrestle them to have the correct license and such.
>> Then remove the dependencies. That would pratically be it.
>> There is no
>> need to create a branch for this, I guess. I believe that the Torque
>> runtime with the added Village classes would be a good point
>> to branch
>> i.e. the upcoming 3.3 release.
>>
>> Bye, Thomas.
>>
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RE: Village Code Grant

[Greg Monroe <Gr...@DukeCE.com>]

One question, do we need to think about creating a separate 
jar for older versions of Torque?  

A quick way to do this might be to make sure the original
import is tagged so it can be extracted. (Prior to any
changes we might include with 3.3).  Then rather than deal
with all the Maven issues, just modify the ant build script
to have a target for this.

So, if you need to rebuild the "original" jar, just check
out the import tag to get the code (sans licensing comments).
Then use the village-jar ant target.

FYI, I can make time to do some licensing edits, etc. if you
need help. I can do the ant mod's if that's the way we decide
to go.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Vandahl [mailto:thomas.vandahl@tewisoft.de] 
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 2:55 AM
> To: Apache Torque Developers List
> Subject: Re: Village Code Grant
> 
> Thomas Fischer wrote:
> > If Thomas V wants to pursue the integration of village into 
> torque further,
> > the branch approach guarantees that this effort can also be pursued
> > further.
> 
> For the current release (3.3) I'd just add the Village 
> packages to the 
> runtime source and wrestle them to have the correct license and such. 
> Then remove the dependencies. That would pratically be it. 
> There is no 
> need to create a branch for this, I guess. I believe that the Torque 
> runtime with the added Village classes would be a good point 
> to branch 
> i.e. the upcoming 3.3 release.
> 
> Bye, Thomas.
> 
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Re: Village Code Grant

[Scott Eade <se...@backstagetech.com.au>]

Thomas Fischer wrote:
> I am unsure whether I have posed my question clearly. Please let me 
> clarify my understanding of the situation:
> 
> 1) there is no code grant for village registered yet.
No doubt we can sort this out when Jon returns.
> 2) we are unsure whether we can use the workingdogs package namespace
Nobody has made any comment against this (on members@ or private@db) and 
if the Harmony people can use "java." I see no reason why we cannot use 
workingdogs.
> 3) we would like to release torque 3.3 after we have incorporated village
> 4) we want to remove the dependency on village after 3.3
> 
> So it seems that unless 1) happens, we cannot proceed with 3) and 4). 
> This is a bit unsatisfactory.
1) will happen, it is just a matter of following things up a little - I 
will do this.

Scott

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Re: Village Code Grant

[Thomas Vandahl <tv...@apache.org>]

Thomas Fischer wrote:
> However, if we would create a branch now, we could start working on 4)
> just now, regardless whether 1) and 2) happen/are answered.
> And the suggestion was to do this, i.e. create the branch now.

Question is, if there is much left to fix before 3.3 is released.
Turbine waits for the 3.3 release as well. So I'd prefer to avoid all
things that further delay the release. I thought all this Village
integration would work out faster... But I have been wrong before...

Bye, Thomas.

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Re: Village Code Grant

[Thomas Fischer <tf...@apache.org>]

Thomas,

I am unsure whether I have posed my question clearly. Please let me 
clarify my understanding of the situation:

1) there is no code grant for village registered yet.
2) we are unsure whether we can use the workingdogs package namespace
3) we would like to release torque 3.3 after we have incorporated village
4) we want to remove the dependency on village after 3.3

So it seems that unless 1) happens, we cannot proceed with 3) and 4). 
This is a bit unsatisfactory.

However, if we would create a branch now, we could start working on 4) 
just now, regardless whether 1) and 2) happen/are answered.
And the suggestion was to do this, i.e. create the branch now.

      Thomas


On Mon, 20 Aug 2007, Thomas Vandahl wrote:

> Thomas Fischer wrote:
>> If Thomas V wants to pursue the integration of village into torque further,
>> the branch approach guarantees that this effort can also be pursued
>> further.
>
> For the current release (3.3) I'd just add the Village packages to the 
> runtime source and wrestle them to have the correct license and such. Then 
> remove the dependencies. That would pratically be it. There is no need to 
> create a branch for this, I guess. I believe that the Torque runtime with the 
> added Village classes would be a good point to branch i.e. the upcoming 3.3 
> release.
>
> Bye, Thomas.
>
>
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Re: Village Code Grant

[Thomas Vandahl <th...@tewisoft.de>]

Thomas Fischer wrote:
> If Thomas V wants to pursue the integration of village into torque further,
> the branch approach guarantees that this effort can also be pursued
> further.

For the current release (3.3) I'd just add the Village packages to the 
runtime source and wrestle them to have the correct license and such. 
Then remove the dependencies. That would pratically be it. There is no 
need to create a branch for this, I guess. I believe that the Torque 
runtime with the added Village classes would be a good point to branch 
i.e. the upcoming 3.3 release.

Bye, Thomas.


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Re: Village Code Grant

[Thomas Fischer <fi...@seitenbau.net>]

As we want to replace anyway, I'd suggest to start this. I would like to
create a branch for removing village from Torque. Some time ago, Thomas V
has suggested to use commons-sql instead; I'd second that. I'd volunteer to
do the village removal, but I reckon this will take me some months.

If Thomas V wants to pursue the integration of village into torque further,
the branch approach guarantees that this effort can also be pursued
further.

What do you think ?

        Thomas

"Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com> schrieb am 15.08.2007 03:58:39:

> Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > did that code grant materialize? I wasn't following too closely.
> >
> >    Best regards
> >       Henning
>
> It doesn't look like it has been recorded in grants.txt yet. (I also
> checked cclas.txt, just in case it got recorded there instead, but it
> isn't there.)
>
> Any suggestion on how to proceed?
>
>  -jean
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Re: Village Code Grant

["Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>]

Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> did that code grant materialize? I wasn't following too closely. 
> 
> 	Best regards
> 		Henning

It doesn't look like it has been recorded in grants.txt yet. (I also
checked cclas.txt, just in case it got recorded there instead, but it
isn't there.)

Any suggestion on how to proceed?

 -jean

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