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Posted to dev@tomee.apache.org by Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org> on 2007/04/03 15:17:34 UTC
[discuss] Request Graduation to a TLP (was Re: [vote] Request Graduation to a TLP)
Please do not use the [vote] thread for discussion.
On Apr 3, 2007, at 9:12 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> Hi Jeff...
>
> I am new to this whole thing, but IMHO this is only an initial
> list, and it
> will be updated. The list contains suggested members for the
> project's PMC
> not committers at all levels. And even if some of the listed
> members were
> not so active recently but they are among most experienced people
> of this
> project. I am not commenting or arguing your decision, but I wanted to
> declare my opinion for two things, first you may send comments on
> my opinion
> and then I will learn :), second as part of my commitment to this
> team and
> it is a duty to declare my opinions which I hope they are for the
> benefit of
> this great team.
>
> On 4/3/07, Jeff Genender <jg...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Actually...I have thought about this...and I have some reservations
>> about how this is graduating.
>>
>> I had to step back and look at the email lists and contributions, and
>> discussions of this project. There are several folks who deserve
>> to be
>> a part of this initial group. I see people who have been much more
>> active than some on this initial list. There have to be some hurt
>> feelings here, as I know I am.
>>
>> I don't believe this is a way to start off a project by making an
>> elite
>> group. It is against my ideals of having a special group, and its
>> somewhat of a slap in the face of those who have been contributing in
>> one form or another.
>>
>> Therefore, I am changing my vote to -1.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> Jeff Genender wrote:
>> > +1...but am I missing something...?
>> >
>> > Why am I not an initial member of the project? I was there when
>> the
>> > project was at Codehaus and have been an active contributor here at
>> > Apache. Am I missing something?
>> >
>> > Jeff
>> >
>> > Brett Porter wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Below is the current proposal for the OpenEJB TLP. Please vote on
>> >> whether to make this proposal a formal request to the incubator
>> PMC to
>> >> apply for graduation.
>> >>
>> >> [ ] +1
>> >> [ ] 0
>> >> [ ] -1
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Brett
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Establish Apache OpenEJB Project
>> >>
>> >> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>> >> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>> Foundation's
>> >> purpose to establish a Project Management Committee
>> charged with
>> >> the creation and maintenance of open-source software
>> related to
>> >> enterprise application and remoting services, for
>> distribution
>> at
>> >> no charge to the public.
>> >>
>> >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>> >> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "The Apache OpenEJB
>> Project",
>> >> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>> >> Foundation; and be it further
>> >>
>> >> RESOLVED, that The Apache OpenEJB Project be and hereby is
>> >> responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
>> >> project related to enterprise application and remoting
>> services;
>> >> and be it further
>> >>
>> >> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, OpenEJB"
>> be and
>> >> hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>> serve at
>> the
>> >> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of The
>> Apache
>> >> OpenEJB Project, and to have primary responsibility for
>> >> management of the projects within the scope of
>> responsibility of
>> >> The Apache OpenEJB Project; and be it further
>> >>
>> >> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>> >> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of The
>> >> Apache OpenEJB Project:
>> >>
>> >> * David Blevins (dblevins@apache.org)
>> >> * Alan Cabrera (adc@apache.org)
>> >> * David Jencks (djencks@apache.org)
>> >> * Jacek Laskowski (jlaskowski@apache.org)
>> >> * Brett Porter (brett@apache.org)
>> >> * Dain Sundstrom (dain@apache.org)
>> >>
>> >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that David
>> Blevins be
>> and
>> >> hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President,
>> OpenEJB, to
>> >> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of
>> the
>> Board
>> >> of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
>> >> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or
>> until a
>> >> successor is appointed; and be it further
>> >>
>> >> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache OpenEJB Project be and
>> hereby
>> >> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the
>> Apache
>> >> Incubator OpenEJB podling; and be it further
>> >>
>> >> RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache
>> >> Incubator OpenEJB podling encumbered upon the Apache
>> Incubator
>> >> PMC are hereafter discharged.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
Re: [discuss] Request Graduation to a TLP (was Re: [vote] Request Graduation to a TLP)
Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
Hi Matt...
As I said sending my comments will make me learn new things :), thanks for
your advise.
On 4/3/07, Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org> wrote:
>
> Please do not use the [vote] thread for discussion.
>
>
> On Apr 3, 2007, at 9:12 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
>
> > Hi Jeff...
> >
> > I am new to this whole thing, but IMHO this is only an initial
> > list, and it
> > will be updated. The list contains suggested members for the
> > project's PMC
> > not committers at all levels. And even if some of the listed
> > members were
> > not so active recently but they are among most experienced people
> > of this
> > project. I am not commenting or arguing your decision, but I wanted to
> > declare my opinion for two things, first you may send comments on
> > my opinion
> > and then I will learn :), second as part of my commitment to this
> > team and
> > it is a duty to declare my opinions which I hope they are for the
> > benefit of
> > this great team.
> >
> > On 4/3/07, Jeff Genender <jg...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Actually...I have thought about this...and I have some reservations
> >> about how this is graduating.
> >>
> >> I had to step back and look at the email lists and contributions, and
> >> discussions of this project. There are several folks who deserve
> >> to be
> >> a part of this initial group. I see people who have been much more
> >> active than some on this initial list. There have to be some hurt
> >> feelings here, as I know I am.
> >>
> >> I don't believe this is a way to start off a project by making an
> >> elite
> >> group. It is against my ideals of having a special group, and its
> >> somewhat of a slap in the face of those who have been contributing in
> >> one form or another.
> >>
> >> Therefore, I am changing my vote to -1.
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >> Jeff Genender wrote:
> >> > +1...but am I missing something...?
> >> >
> >> > Why am I not an initial member of the project? I was there when
> >> the
> >> > project was at Codehaus and have been an active contributor here at
> >> > Apache. Am I missing something?
> >> >
> >> > Jeff
> >> >
> >> > Brett Porter wrote:
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> Below is the current proposal for the OpenEJB TLP. Please vote on
> >> >> whether to make this proposal a formal request to the incubator
> >> PMC to
> >> >> apply for graduation.
> >> >>
> >> >> [ ] +1
> >> >> [ ] 0
> >> >> [ ] -1
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> Brett
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Establish Apache OpenEJB Project
> >> >>
> >> >> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> >> >> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> >> Foundation's
> >> >> purpose to establish a Project Management Committee
> >> charged with
> >> >> the creation and maintenance of open-source software
> >> related to
> >> >> enterprise application and remoting services, for
> >> distribution
> >> at
> >> >> no charge to the public.
> >> >>
> >> >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> >> >> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "The Apache OpenEJB
> >> Project",
> >> >> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> >> >> Foundation; and be it further
> >> >>
> >> >> RESOLVED, that The Apache OpenEJB Project be and hereby is
> >> >> responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
> >> >> project related to enterprise application and remoting
> >> services;
> >> >> and be it further
> >> >>
> >> >> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, OpenEJB"
> >> be and
> >> >> hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> >> serve at
> >> the
> >> >> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of The
> >> Apache
> >> >> OpenEJB Project, and to have primary responsibility for
> >> >> management of the projects within the scope of
> >> responsibility of
> >> >> The Apache OpenEJB Project; and be it further
> >> >>
> >> >> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> >> >> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of The
> >> >> Apache OpenEJB Project:
> >> >>
> >> >> * David Blevins (dblevins@apache.org)
> >> >> * Alan Cabrera (adc@apache.org)
> >> >> * David Jencks (djencks@apache.org)
> >> >> * Jacek Laskowski (jlaskowski@apache.org)
> >> >> * Brett Porter (brett@apache.org)
> >> >> * Dain Sundstrom (dain@apache.org)
> >> >>
> >> >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that David
> >> Blevins be
> >> and
> >> >> hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President,
> >> OpenEJB, to
> >> >> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of
> >> the
> >> Board
> >> >> of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
> >> >> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or
> >> until a
> >> >> successor is appointed; and be it further
> >> >>
> >> >> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache OpenEJB Project be and
> >> hereby
> >> >> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the
> >> Apache
> >> >> Incubator OpenEJB podling; and be it further
> >> >>
> >> >> RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache
> >> >> Incubator OpenEJB podling encumbered upon the Apache
> >> Incubator
> >> >> PMC are hereafter discharged.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks
> > - Mohammad Nour
>
>
--
Thanks
- Mohammad Nour