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Posted to modperl@perl.apache.org by martin langhoff <ma...@scim.net> on 2000/08/22 22:30:08 UTC
mod_perl-friendly webmail solutions?
hi,
i'm looking around, searching webmail solutions that run without
problems under mod_perl. Although I know there are many, most of them
are not very mod_perl friendly.
now, the actual questions are
- is anyone here running (successfuly) a mod_perl webmail?
- Which one?
- How did you solve the 'create new user' issue? Which MTA are you
using?
- Did you get burned with any particular issue / webmail solution?
martin
Re: mod_perl-friendly webmail solutions?
Posted by Luis Henrique Cassis Fagundes <lh...@ig.com.br>.
Hi,
I used acmemail in two projects and liked it. I didn't test it under
mod_perl, but the code as I remember was developed to run under mod_perl
and appeared to avoid all the common mod_perl traps.
To create new users, I don't dedicated much time to find a better
solution, but it worked well to put users and passwords in a file and
scheduling a chpasswd or newusers in crontab.
One thing I liked in acmemail is that it stores sessions in a mysql
database, so it's easy to develop other things using the same session.
I know another very good webmail that's running here with about
1.500.000 users under mod_perl, but it's not free. You can obtain more
information emailing to comercial@insite.com.br.
[]s
Luis
martin langhoff wrote:
>
> hi,
>
> i'm looking around, searching webmail solutions that run without
> problems under mod_perl. Although I know there are many, most of them
> are not very mod_perl friendly.
>
> now, the actual questions are
>
> - is anyone here running (successfuly) a mod_perl webmail?
>
> - Which one?
>
> - How did you solve the 'create new user' issue? Which MTA are you
> using?
>
> - Did you get burned with any particular issue / webmail solution?
>
>
> martin
Re: Acmemail vs WING (was Re: mod_perl-friendly webmail solutions?)
Posted by martin langhoff <ma...@scim.net>.
entropic,
is WING something I can deploy and configure/customize (like most
webmail solutions) or should code the interface to get it to work?
does it support imap folders and address books?
martin
entropic@fldna.net wrote:
> Wing scales well. Its the 'imap' server where you will have issues. I use
> wing with imap-uw and about 50 'trusted' users.
Re: Acmemail vs WING (was Re: mod_perl-friendly webmail solutions?)
Posted by brian moseley <bc...@maz.org>.
On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 entropic@fldna.net wrote:
> Wing scales well. Its the 'imap' server where you will
> have issues. I use wing with imap-uw and about 50
> 'trusted' users.
what issues will you have with the imap server?
> I'm looking into a 'ldap' email alternative. But haven't
> learned the reality there. If I find 'ldap email' is
> sane, I'm going to hack Wing's 'maild' for my needs.
*cough*
Re: Acmemail vs WING (was Re: mod_perl-friendly webmail solutions?)
Posted by en...@fldna.net.
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 02:51:22PM +0100, David Hodgkinson wrote:
>
> Leon!
>
> > Development will start again as soon as yapc::Europe is over and
> > people get back from holiday, honest. Scalability will really only
> > happen when I can get some beefy servers to test it on.
>
> What are the scalability issues? I'm looking at the possiblity of
> doing this for some hundreds of thousands of users. If I could staple
> WING onto the Template Toolkit AND it scaled, I'd be in hog
> heaven. What templater are you using?
Wing scales well. Its the 'imap' server where you will have issues. I use
wing with imap-uw and about 50 'trusted' users.
I'm looking into a 'ldap' email alternative. But haven't learned the reality
there. If I find 'ldap email' is sane, I'm going to hack Wing's 'maild' for my
needs.
good luck, Wendell
Re: Acmemail vs WING (was Re: mod_perl-friendly webmail solutions?)
Posted by David Hodgkinson <da...@hodgkinson.org>.
Leon!
> Development will start again as soon as yapc::Europe is over and
> people get back from holiday, honest. Scalability will really only
> happen when I can get some beefy servers to test it on.
What are the scalability issues? I'm looking at the possiblity of
doing this for some hundreds of thousands of users. If I could staple
WING onto the Template Toolkit AND it scaled, I'd be in hog
heaven. What templater are you using?
Cheers,
--
Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org
Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com
Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire
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Re: Acmemail vs WING (was Re: mod_perl-friendly webmail solutions?)
Posted by Leon Brocard <ac...@astray.com>.
martin langhoff sent the following bits through the ether:
> Acmemail is nicely documented, and seems 'ready to go' (tempting!),
> although I fear it may not be as configurable as I want. Do you know
> anything about it?
As the main developer of acmemail, I'd actually go for WING - acmemail
is getting there, but recently development has slowed quite a lot. We
have lots of great plans but not really enough time to implement
anything. It currently scales fairly badly too. OTOH the documentation
is very good, and, of course, it's very pretty ;-)
It looked like we were getting critical mass with the number of people
interested in helping development, but no-one has actually contributed
any code recently. It *was* going to make a good case on how open
source development can succeed :-(
Development will start again as soon as yapc::Europe is over and
people get back from holiday, honest. Scalability will really only
happen when I can get some beefy servers to test it on.
btw you could have asked this on the acmemail and WING lists,
surely?
Leon
--
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yapc::Europe - September 22-24 London - http://yapc.org/Europe/
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Acmemail vs WING (was Re: mod_perl-friendly webmail solutions?)
Posted by martin langhoff <ma...@scim.net>.
I found the one that Luis suggested, (acmemail) and a few more,
including WING. These 2 are the only ones programmed to take advantage
of mod_perl. I fear the other ones are not mod_perl aware, so the may
not be safe/efficient under mod_perl, so my choices are mainly between
these two.
Acmemail is nicely documented, and seems 'ready to go' (tempting!),
although I fear it may not be as configurable as I want. Do you know
anything about it?
WING (http://users.ox.ac.uk/~mbeattie/wing) on the other hand, seems to
offer raw power, but all it offers is a bare webpage without much actual
implementation details.
please don't think I was bought by the eyecandy in acmemail page
(http://www.astray.com/acmemail), but I need a working solution in a
reasonable timeframe. Acmemail seems to need some tweaking to make it
work. WING, well, either I didn't understand well or needs me to study
the man pages of its modules and design and code an implementation.
Re: mod_perl-friendly webmail solutions?
Posted by Stas Bekman <st...@stason.org>.
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, martin langhoff wrote:
> hi,
>
> i'm looking around, searching webmail solutions that run without
> problems under mod_perl. Although I know there are many, most of them
> are not very mod_perl friendly.
>
> now, the actual questions are
>
> - is anyone here running (successfuly) a mod_perl webmail?
>
> - Which one?
>
> - How did you solve the 'create new user' issue? Which MTA are you
> using?
>
> - Did you get burned with any particular issue / webmail solution?
>
>
> martin
>
cpan> i /wing/
Distribution M/MI/MICB/wing-0.9.tar.gz
Module WING (Contact Author Malcolm Beattie
<mb...@sable.ox.ac.uk>)
Module Wing (M/MI/MICB/wing-0.9.tar.gz)
Module Wing::Admin (M/MI/MICB/wing-0.9.tar.gz)
Module Wing::Balance (M/MI/MICB/wing-0.9.tar.gz)
Module Wing::Login (M/MI/MICB/wing-0.9.tar.gz)
Module Wing::Shared (M/MI/MICB/wing-0.9.tar.gz)
Module Wing::Util (M/MI/MICB/wing-0.9.tar.gz)
cpan> readme Wing
[snip]
DESCRIPTION
WING is an Open Source Apache/mod_perl based system which allows users
to access email held on an IMAP server via any web browser.
WING provides a gateway so that users can access email held on an
IMAP server via any web browser. See
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~mbeattie/wing/
[snip]
Hope this helps
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