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Posted to server-user@james.apache.org by Thomas Eichmann <t....@eggsist.com> on 2011/11/30 08:10:02 UTC

Mails stuck in queue/spool James 3.0 Beta3

Hi James users,

First a short background info, what our company would like to achieve using James. We have several clients that need mass-mailing capability, thus we want to create a system that allows us to track these mails and especially store errors from bounces (also by using VERP), so we can block unreachable addresses. I created a few custom mailets to handle those requirements and a custom RemoteDelivery implementation for creating VERP style sender addresses. The storage is all done in a MySQL database via JPA. Currently we use it for one client which is not sending huge amounts of mails, around 80,000 per month.

The system works well, but it happens after a bigger batch of mails (around 4,000 mails) that the mail queueing system gets somehow "stuck". The SMTP server is able to retrieve new mails, but somehow they don't get send out, until I restart the server. Sometimes a flush() on queue/spool helps, but most of the times a restart is necessary.

I added logging to my mailets when they start and finish to see if there is a problem, but they seem to run fine (no exceptions). It seems that the mails that arrive after James gets stuck get processed normally by the mailets, but somehow are not dequeued and sent out.

Server info
James 3.0 Beta3
linux 2.6.24-23-xen #1 SMP Mon Jan 26 03:09:12 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Frankly I'm not sure what is the best way to debug this kind of problem with James. I could find a few other threads with people describing similar problems, but I couldn't get closer to the problem.

Here some data from JMX that I took while the server was in "stuck" status.

=======================================================
INFO org.apache.james:type=component,name=queue,queue=outgoing
=======================================================
Size == 80
=======================================================
INFO org.apache.james:type=component,name=queue,queue=spool
=======================================================
Size == 0
=======================================================
INFO org.apache.james:type=component,component=mailetcontainer,name=mailspooler
=======================================================
CurrentSpoolCount == 0
ThreadCount == 20
=======================================================
INFO org.apache.james:type=component,component=mailetcontainer,name=mailspooler,sub-type=threadpool,threadpool=dequeuer
=======================================================
TotalTasks == 0
AverageTaskTime == 0.0
ActiveThreads == 2
ActiveTasks == 2
QueuedTasks == 0
MaximalThreads == 2
=======================================================
INFO org.apache.james:type=component,component=mailetcontainer,name=mailspooler,sub-type=threadpool,threadpool=spooler
=======================================================
TotalTasks == 4653
AverageTaskTime == 145.0
ActiveThreads == 20
ActiveTasks == 0
QueuedTasks == 0
MaximalThreads == 20


I also created a jstack output, as it was suggested in one of the threads I found. I can post it here as well if it could be helpful (I didn't do it now, because the file is quite large).

This is the logging output when a new mail is sent while the queue is stuck (IgnoreBlockedMailet and SendAttemptLogMailet are my custom mailets):

DEBUG 03:54:46,819 | james.mailspooler | ==== Begin processing mail Mail1322625286815-aa8034cb-4d50-4044-926f-10bbe8b637e5====
DEBUG 03:54:46,819 | james.mailprocessor | Call MailProcessor root
INFO  03:54:46,827 | james.mailetcontext | IgnoreBlockedMailet called - recipients=[t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com)]
INFO  03:54:46,847 | james.mailetcontext | IgnoreBlockedMailet finished - recipients=[t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com)]
DEBUG 03:54:46,847 | james.mailprocessor | Call MailProcessor transport
INFO  03:54:46,863 | james.mailetcontext | SendAttemptLogMailet called - recipients=[t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com)]
INFO  03:54:46,927 | james.mailetcontext | SendAttemptLogMailet finished - recipients=[t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com)]
DEBUG 03:54:46,931 | james.mailprocessor | End of mailetprocessor for state root reached

What is missing is this part, which usually follows when the server is functioning (at least follows after a few minutes if the server is busy).

INFO  03:54:46,943 | james.mailetcontext | Attempting delivery of Mail1322620955282-2b903c2d-8378-4a10-848b-6ebd489182bf-to-eggsist.com to host ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com. at 209.85.225.26 from bounce+t.eichmann=eggsist.com@???.com for addresses [t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com)]
INFO  03:54:47,671 | james.mailetcontext | Mail (Mail1322620955282-2b903c2d-8378-4a10-848b-6ebd489182bf-to-eggsist.com) sent successfully to ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com. at 209.85.225.26 from bounce+t.eichmann=eggsist.com@???.com for [t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com)]


There are a couple of mails that get re-queued 25 times (default limit for attempts) due to DNS issues (like no MX entry for a domain etc.) until they are bounced in the system. But I assume James should be able to handle such mails and new ones in the queue without problems.

Is there a way to examine mails that are queued and their status? Like how many times are they already being re-queued, why are they still in the queue etc.? I'm really not sure how I can debug this issue as I'm new to James. Any help is very appreciated.

Regards,
Thomas


--
Thomas Eichmann

EGGsist limited
suite 27a, tower b, oriental kenzo
dongzhimen, beijing, china
+86 (010) 84477066


Re: Mails stuck in queue/spool James 3.0 Beta3

Posted by Norman Maurer <no...@googlemail.com>.
Hi there,

the mailinglist strips of attachments. Please create a jira issue and
attach it there.

Thanks,
Norman


2011/12/2 Thomas Eichmann <t....@eggsist.com>

>  Hi Norman
>
> I added the jstack output as attachment. I hope it will be helpful.
>
> Best,
> Thomas
>
>
>
> On Donnerstag, 1. Dezember 2011 at 21:11, Norman Maurer wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> could you please also show us the thread stacktrace.
>
> Bye,
> Norman
>
>
> 2011/11/30 Thomas Eichmann <t....@eggsist.com>
>
> Hi James users,
>
> First a short background info, what our company would like to achieve
> using James. We have several clients that need mass-mailing capability,
> thus we want to create a system that allows us to track these mails and
> especially store errors from bounces (also by using VERP), so we can block
> unreachable addresses. I created a few custom mailets to handle those
> requirements and a custom RemoteDelivery implementation for creating VERP
> style sender addresses. The storage is all done in a MySQL database via
> JPA. Currently we use it for one client which is not sending huge amounts
> of mails, around 80,000 per month.
>
> The system works well, but it happens after a bigger batch of mails
> (around 4,000 mails) that the mail queueing system gets somehow "stuck".
> The SMTP server is able to retrieve new mails, but somehow they don't get
> send out, until I restart the server. Sometimes a flush() on queue/spool
> helps, but most of the times a restart is necessary.
>
> I added logging to my mailets when they start and finish to see if there
> is a problem, but they seem to run fine (no exceptions). It seems that the
> mails that arrive after James gets stuck get processed normally by the
> mailets, but somehow are not dequeued and sent out.
>
> Server info
> James 3.0 Beta3
> linux 2.6.24-23-xen #1 SMP Mon Jan 26 03:09:12 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> Frankly I'm not sure what is the best way to debug this kind of problem
> with James. I could find a few other threads with people describing similar
> problems, but I couldn't get closer to the problem.
>
> Here some data from JMX that I took while the server was in "stuck" status.
>
> =======================================================
> INFO org.apache.james:type=component,name=queue,queue=outgoing
> =======================================================
> Size == 80
> =======================================================
> INFO org.apache.james:type=component,name=queue,queue=spool
> =======================================================
> Size == 0
> =======================================================
> INFO
> org.apache.james:type=component,component=mailetcontainer,name=mailspooler
> =======================================================
> CurrentSpoolCount == 0
> ThreadCount == 20
> =======================================================
> INFO
>
> org.apache.james:type=component,component=mailetcontainer,name=mailspooler,sub-type=threadpool,threadpool=dequeuer
> =======================================================
> TotalTasks == 0
> AverageTaskTime == 0.0
> ActiveThreads == 2
> ActiveTasks == 2
> QueuedTasks == 0
> MaximalThreads == 2
> =======================================================
> INFO
>
> org.apache.james:type=component,component=mailetcontainer,name=mailspooler,sub-type=threadpool,threadpool=spooler
> =======================================================
> TotalTasks == 4653
> AverageTaskTime == 145.0
> ActiveThreads == 20
> ActiveTasks == 0
> QueuedTasks == 0
> MaximalThreads == 20
>
>
> I also created a jstack output, as it was suggested in one of the threads
> I found. I can post it here as well if it could be helpful (I didn't do it
> now, because the file is quite large).
>
> This is the logging output when a new mail is sent while the queue is
> stuck (IgnoreBlockedMailet and SendAttemptLogMailet are my custom mailets):
>
> DEBUG 03:54:46,819 | james.mailspooler | ==== Begin processing mail
> Mail1322625286815-aa8034cb-4d50-4044-926f-10bbe8b637e5====
> DEBUG 03:54:46,819 | james.mailprocessor | Call MailProcessor root
> INFO 03:54:46,827 | james.mailetcontext | IgnoreBlockedMailet called -
> recipients=[t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com<t....@eggsist.com>
> )]
> INFO 03:54:46,847 | james.mailetcontext | IgnoreBlockedMailet finished -
> recipients=[t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com<t....@eggsist.com>
> )]
> DEBUG 03:54:46,847 | james.mailprocessor | Call MailProcessor transport
> INFO 03:54:46,863 | james.mailetcontext | SendAttemptLogMailet called -
> recipients=[t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com<t....@eggsist.com>
> )]
> INFO 03:54:46,927 | james.mailetcontext | SendAttemptLogMailet finished -
> recipients=[t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com<t....@eggsist.com>
> )]
> DEBUG 03:54:46,931 | james.mailprocessor | End of mailetprocessor for
> state root reached
>
> What is missing is this part, which usually follows when the server is
> functioning (at least follows after a few minutes if the server is busy).
>
> INFO 03:54:46,943 | james.mailetcontext | Attempting delivery of
> Mail1322620955282-2b903c2d-8378-4a10-848b-6ebd489182bf-to-eggsist.com to
> host ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com. at 209.85.225.26 from
> bounce+t.eichmann=eggsist.com@???.com for addresses [
> t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com<t....@eggsist.com>
> )]
> INFO 03:54:47,671 | james.mailetcontext | Mail
> (Mail1322620955282-2b903c2d-8378-4a10-848b-6ebd489182bf-to-eggsist.com)
> sent successfully to ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com. at 209.85.225.26 from
> bounce+t.eichmann=eggsist.com@???.com for [t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:
> t.eichmann@eggsist.com)]
>
>
> There are a couple of mails that get re-queued 25 times (default limit for
> attempts) due to DNS issues (like no MX entry for a domain etc.) until they
> are bounced in the system. But I assume James should be able to handle such
> mails and new ones in the queue without problems.
>
> Is there a way to examine mails that are queued and their status? Like how
> many times are they already being re-queued, why are they still in the
> queue etc.? I'm really not sure how I can debug this issue as I'm new to
> James. Any help is very appreciated.
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
>
>
> --
> Thomas Eichmann
>
> EGGsist limited
> suite 27a, tower b, oriental kenzo
> dongzhimen, beijing, china
> +86 (010) 84477066
>
>
>
>
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Re: Mails stuck in queue/spool James 3.0 Beta3

Posted by Thomas Eichmann <t....@eggsist.com>.
Hi Norman 

I added the jstack output as attachment. I hope it will be helpful.

Best,
Thomas




On Donnerstag, 1. Dezember 2011 at 21:11, Norman Maurer wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> could you please also show us the thread stacktrace.
> 
> Bye,
> Norman
> 
> 
> 2011/11/30 Thomas Eichmann <t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com)>
> 
> > Hi James users,
> > 
> > First a short background info, what our company would like to achieve
> > using James. We have several clients that need mass-mailing capability,
> > thus we want to create a system that allows us to track these mails and
> > especially store errors from bounces (also by using VERP), so we can block
> > unreachable addresses. I created a few custom mailets to handle those
> > requirements and a custom RemoteDelivery implementation for creating VERP
> > style sender addresses. The storage is all done in a MySQL database via
> > JPA. Currently we use it for one client which is not sending huge amounts
> > of mails, around 80,000 per month.
> > 
> > The system works well, but it happens after a bigger batch of mails
> > (around 4,000 mails) that the mail queueing system gets somehow "stuck".
> > The SMTP server is able to retrieve new mails, but somehow they don't get
> > send out, until I restart the server. Sometimes a flush() on queue/spool
> > helps, but most of the times a restart is necessary.
> > 
> > I added logging to my mailets when they start and finish to see if there
> > is a problem, but they seem to run fine (no exceptions). It seems that the
> > mails that arrive after James gets stuck get processed normally by the
> > mailets, but somehow are not dequeued and sent out.
> > 
> > Server info
> > James 3.0 Beta3
> > linux 2.6.24-23-xen #1 SMP Mon Jan 26 03:09:12 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> > 
> > Frankly I'm not sure what is the best way to debug this kind of problem
> > with James. I could find a few other threads with people describing similar
> > problems, but I couldn't get closer to the problem.
> > 
> > Here some data from JMX that I took while the server was in "stuck" status.
> > 
> > =======================================================
> > INFO org.apache.james:type=component,name=queue,queue=outgoing
> > =======================================================
> > Size == 80
> > =======================================================
> > INFO org.apache.james:type=component,name=queue,queue=spool
> > =======================================================
> > Size == 0
> > =======================================================
> > INFO
> > org.apache.james:type=component,component=mailetcontainer,name=mailspooler
> > =======================================================
> > CurrentSpoolCount == 0
> > ThreadCount == 20
> > =======================================================
> > INFO
> > org.apache.james:type=component,component=mailetcontainer,name=mailspooler,sub-type=threadpool,threadpool=dequeuer
> > =======================================================
> > TotalTasks == 0
> > AverageTaskTime == 0.0
> > ActiveThreads == 2
> > ActiveTasks == 2
> > QueuedTasks == 0
> > MaximalThreads == 2
> > =======================================================
> > INFO
> > org.apache.james:type=component,component=mailetcontainer,name=mailspooler,sub-type=threadpool,threadpool=spooler
> > =======================================================
> > TotalTasks == 4653
> > AverageTaskTime == 145.0
> > ActiveThreads == 20
> > ActiveTasks == 0
> > QueuedTasks == 0
> > MaximalThreads == 20
> > 
> > 
> > I also created a jstack output, as it was suggested in one of the threads
> > I found. I can post it here as well if it could be helpful (I didn't do it
> > now, because the file is quite large).
> > 
> > This is the logging output when a new mail is sent while the queue is
> > stuck (IgnoreBlockedMailet and SendAttemptLogMailet are my custom mailets):
> > 
> > DEBUG 03:54:46,819 | james.mailspooler | ==== Begin processing mail
> > Mail1322625286815-aa8034cb-4d50-4044-926f-10bbe8b637e5====
> > DEBUG 03:54:46,819 | james.mailprocessor | Call MailProcessor root
> > INFO 03:54:46,827 | james.mailetcontext | IgnoreBlockedMailet called -
> > recipients=[t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com)]
> > INFO 03:54:46,847 | james.mailetcontext | IgnoreBlockedMailet finished -
> > recipients=[t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com)]
> > DEBUG 03:54:46,847 | james.mailprocessor | Call MailProcessor transport
> > INFO 03:54:46,863 | james.mailetcontext | SendAttemptLogMailet called -
> > recipients=[t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com)]
> > INFO 03:54:46,927 | james.mailetcontext | SendAttemptLogMailet finished -
> > recipients=[t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com)]
> > DEBUG 03:54:46,931 | james.mailprocessor | End of mailetprocessor for
> > state root reached
> > 
> > What is missing is this part, which usually follows when the server is
> > functioning (at least follows after a few minutes if the server is busy).
> > 
> > INFO 03:54:46,943 | james.mailetcontext | Attempting delivery of
> > Mail1322620955282-2b903c2d-8378-4a10-848b-6ebd489182bf-to-eggsist.com (http://Mail1322620955282-2b903c2d-8378-4a10-848b-6ebd489182bf-to-eggsist.com) to
> > host ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com (http://ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com). at 209.85.225.26 from
> > bounce+t.eichmann=eggsist.com (http://eggsist.com)@???.com for addresses [
> > t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com)]
> > INFO 03:54:47,671 | james.mailetcontext | Mail
> > (Mail1322620955282-2b903c2d-8378-4a10-848b-6ebd489182bf-to-eggsist.com (http://Mail1322620955282-2b903c2d-8378-4a10-848b-6ebd489182bf-to-eggsist.com))
> > sent successfully to ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com (http://ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com). at 209.85.225.26 from
> > bounce+t.eichmann=eggsist.com@???.com for [t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com) (mailto:
> > t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com))]
> > 
> > 
> > There are a couple of mails that get re-queued 25 times (default limit for
> > attempts) due to DNS issues (like no MX entry for a domain etc.) until they
> > are bounced in the system. But I assume James should be able to handle such
> > mails and new ones in the queue without problems.
> > 
> > Is there a way to examine mails that are queued and their status? Like how
> > many times are they already being re-queued, why are they still in the
> > queue etc.? I'm really not sure how I can debug this issue as I'm new to
> > James. Any help is very appreciated.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Thomas
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Thomas Eichmann
> > 
> > EGGsist limited
> > suite 27a, tower b, oriental kenzo
> > dongzhimen, beijing, china
> > +86 (010) 84477066
> > 
> 
> 
> 



Re: Mails stuck in queue/spool James 3.0 Beta3

Posted by Norman Maurer <no...@googlemail.com>.
Hi there,

could you please also show us the thread stacktrace.

Bye,
Norman


2011/11/30 Thomas Eichmann <t....@eggsist.com>

> Hi James users,
>
> First a short background info, what our company would like to achieve
> using James. We have several clients that need mass-mailing capability,
> thus we want to create a system that allows us to track these mails and
> especially store errors from bounces (also by using VERP), so we can block
> unreachable addresses. I created a few custom mailets to handle those
> requirements and a custom RemoteDelivery implementation for creating VERP
> style sender addresses. The storage is all done in a MySQL database via
> JPA. Currently we use it for one client which is not sending huge amounts
> of mails, around 80,000 per month.
>
> The system works well, but it happens after a bigger batch of mails
> (around 4,000 mails) that the mail queueing system gets somehow "stuck".
> The SMTP server is able to retrieve new mails, but somehow they don't get
> send out, until I restart the server. Sometimes a flush() on queue/spool
> helps, but most of the times a restart is necessary.
>
> I added logging to my mailets when they start and finish to see if there
> is a problem, but they seem to run fine (no exceptions). It seems that the
> mails that arrive after James gets stuck get processed normally by the
> mailets, but somehow are not dequeued and sent out.
>
> Server info
> James 3.0 Beta3
> linux 2.6.24-23-xen #1 SMP Mon Jan 26 03:09:12 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> Frankly I'm not sure what is the best way to debug this kind of problem
> with James. I could find a few other threads with people describing similar
> problems, but I couldn't get closer to the problem.
>
> Here some data from JMX that I took while the server was in "stuck" status.
>
> =======================================================
> INFO org.apache.james:type=component,name=queue,queue=outgoing
> =======================================================
> Size == 80
> =======================================================
> INFO org.apache.james:type=component,name=queue,queue=spool
> =======================================================
> Size == 0
> =======================================================
> INFO
> org.apache.james:type=component,component=mailetcontainer,name=mailspooler
> =======================================================
> CurrentSpoolCount == 0
> ThreadCount == 20
> =======================================================
> INFO
> org.apache.james:type=component,component=mailetcontainer,name=mailspooler,sub-type=threadpool,threadpool=dequeuer
> =======================================================
> TotalTasks == 0
> AverageTaskTime == 0.0
> ActiveThreads == 2
> ActiveTasks == 2
> QueuedTasks == 0
> MaximalThreads == 2
> =======================================================
> INFO
> org.apache.james:type=component,component=mailetcontainer,name=mailspooler,sub-type=threadpool,threadpool=spooler
> =======================================================
> TotalTasks == 4653
> AverageTaskTime == 145.0
> ActiveThreads == 20
> ActiveTasks == 0
> QueuedTasks == 0
> MaximalThreads == 20
>
>
> I also created a jstack output, as it was suggested in one of the threads
> I found. I can post it here as well if it could be helpful (I didn't do it
> now, because the file is quite large).
>
> This is the logging output when a new mail is sent while the queue is
> stuck (IgnoreBlockedMailet and SendAttemptLogMailet are my custom mailets):
>
> DEBUG 03:54:46,819 | james.mailspooler | ==== Begin processing mail
> Mail1322625286815-aa8034cb-4d50-4044-926f-10bbe8b637e5====
> DEBUG 03:54:46,819 | james.mailprocessor | Call MailProcessor root
> INFO  03:54:46,827 | james.mailetcontext | IgnoreBlockedMailet called -
> recipients=[t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com)]
> INFO  03:54:46,847 | james.mailetcontext | IgnoreBlockedMailet finished -
> recipients=[t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com)]
> DEBUG 03:54:46,847 | james.mailprocessor | Call MailProcessor transport
> INFO  03:54:46,863 | james.mailetcontext | SendAttemptLogMailet called -
> recipients=[t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com)]
> INFO  03:54:46,927 | james.mailetcontext | SendAttemptLogMailet finished -
> recipients=[t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com)]
> DEBUG 03:54:46,931 | james.mailprocessor | End of mailetprocessor for
> state root reached
>
> What is missing is this part, which usually follows when the server is
> functioning (at least follows after a few minutes if the server is busy).
>
> INFO  03:54:46,943 | james.mailetcontext | Attempting delivery of
> Mail1322620955282-2b903c2d-8378-4a10-848b-6ebd489182bf-to-eggsist.com to
> host ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com. at 209.85.225.26 from
> bounce+t.eichmann=eggsist.com@???.com for addresses [
> t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:t.eichmann@eggsist.com)]
> INFO  03:54:47,671 | james.mailetcontext | Mail
> (Mail1322620955282-2b903c2d-8378-4a10-848b-6ebd489182bf-to-eggsist.com)
> sent successfully to ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com. at 209.85.225.26 from
> bounce+t.eichmann=eggsist.com@???.com for [t.eichmann@eggsist.com (mailto:
> t.eichmann@eggsist.com)]
>
>
> There are a couple of mails that get re-queued 25 times (default limit for
> attempts) due to DNS issues (like no MX entry for a domain etc.) until they
> are bounced in the system. But I assume James should be able to handle such
> mails and new ones in the queue without problems.
>
> Is there a way to examine mails that are queued and their status? Like how
> many times are they already being re-queued, why are they still in the
> queue etc.? I'm really not sure how I can debug this issue as I'm new to
> James. Any help is very appreciated.
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
>
>
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