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Posted to c-dev@xerces.apache.org by Boris Kolpackov <bo...@codesynthesis.com> on 2013/04/10 16:46:40 UTC
Re: Xerces-C / Patch Release Request
Hi Steven,
shathawa@e-z.net <sh...@e-z.net> writes:
> I would like to see a patch release for Xerces-C (XML Parser).
>
> The current version of Xerces is 3.1.1.
> I propose a patch relase of Xerces-C as 3.1.2.
A bugfix release (e.g., 3.1.2) would normally be released to fix
something, not to add new features. So I think we should aim for
3.2.0 (from trunk).
> Tasks:
> * Update the "version.incl" file
> * Merge the trunk to the 3.1 branch
> * Perform quality assurance testing on the 3.1 branch
> * Update the Xerces-C website documents
> * Package the distributions
> * Submit the distribution artifacts to the mirrors
> * Announce a patch release
I wish it were that easy ;-). A (possibly incomplete) list of release
tasks can be found here:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/xerces/c/admin/release-procedure.txt?view=log
The major ones are:
- Test on all the platforms/C++ compilers that we claim to support
- Build binaries for all the platforms/C++ compilers that we claim to support
- Update (brain-dead) Xerces-C++ website management system
I also remember last time I did a release, Apache infra people told
me that it was the last time we were able to publish our binaries
(I think it were the binaries) that way and we would have to change
to the "new way" with the next release. Not sure what that would
involve.
Overall, Xerces-C++ release is quite a tedious and often frustrating
process, not something you would want to do often (which is also the
reason why you would try to get it right the first time).
> I can offer some assistance at getting the Xerces-C patch release
> ready for distribution.
I was hoping to find time and make a release around June or July.
It would also be a good idea to spend some time and try to fix some
new bugs that have been uncovered since the 3.1.0 release. Not sure
if you would like to wait or if you want to press ahead. But your
help would be greatly appreciated.
Boris
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Re: Xerces-C / Patch Release Request
Posted by sh...@e-z.net.
Thanks Boris!
I will be glad to pursue the release issues, patches, documentation,
and features. Expect to see more activity from me on these in JIRA.
Steven J. Hathaway
> Hi Steven,
>
> shathawa@e-z.net <sh...@e-z.net> writes:
>
>> I would like to see a patch release for Xerces-C (XML Parser).
>>
>> The current version of Xerces is 3.1.1.
>> I propose a patch relase of Xerces-C as 3.1.2.
>
> A bugfix release (e.g., 3.1.2) would normally be released to fix
> something, not to add new features. So I think we should aim for
> 3.2.0 (from trunk).
>
>
>> Tasks:
>> * Update the "version.incl" file
>> * Merge the trunk to the 3.1 branch
>> * Perform quality assurance testing on the 3.1 branch
>> * Update the Xerces-C website documents
>> * Package the distributions
>> * Submit the distribution artifacts to the mirrors
>> * Announce a patch release
>
> I wish it were that easy ;-). A (possibly incomplete) list of release
> tasks can be found here:
>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/xerces/c/admin/release-procedure.txt?view=log
>
> The major ones are:
>
> - Test on all the platforms/C++ compilers that we claim to support
> - Build binaries for all the platforms/C++ compilers that we claim to
> support
> - Update (brain-dead) Xerces-C++ website management system
>
> I also remember last time I did a release, Apache infra people told
> me that it was the last time we were able to publish our binaries
> (I think it were the binaries) that way and we would have to change
> to the "new way" with the next release. Not sure what that would
> involve.
>
> Overall, Xerces-C++ release is quite a tedious and often frustrating
> process, not something you would want to do often (which is also the
> reason why you would try to get it right the first time).
>
>
>> I can offer some assistance at getting the Xerces-C patch release
>> ready for distribution.
>
> I was hoping to find time and make a release around June or July.
> It would also be a good idea to spend some time and try to fix some
> new bugs that have been uncovered since the 3.1.0 release. Not sure
> if you would like to wait or if you want to press ahead. But your
> help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Boris
>
> --
> Boris Kolpackov, Code Synthesis
> http://codesynthesis.com/~boris/blog
> Compiler-based ORM system for C++
> http://codesynthesis.com/products/odb
> Open-source XML data binding for C++
> http://codesynthesis.com/products/xsd
> XML data binding for embedded systems
> http://codesynthesis.com/products/xsde
>
>
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Re: Xerces-C / Patch Release Request
Posted by Jay Berkenbilt <ej...@ql.org>.
On 04/11/2013 12:59 PM, shathawa@e-z.net wrote:
>> On 4/11/13 12:35 PM, "shathawa@e-z.net" <sh...@e-z.net> wrote:
>>
>> I don't do Debian, but those packages exist, and that is the manner in
>> which Debian users want and need to get the software. Binaries just don't
>> fly.
> I can check with Debian and Ubuntu integration teams to see what
> support there is to create (.deb) packages for their distributions.
I'm the maintainer for Xerces-c in debian, and I lightly follow this
list. If announcement of a release candidate were made, I could at
least test the debian packages and at most upload the version to debian
experimental where adventurous types could test. Once debian comes out
of freeze for the upcoming Wheezy release and the next Xerces-c version
is released (whichever comes last), I would upload the new xerces-c
version to debian unstable. From there, it would migrate over to Ubuntu
automatically. Other paths are possible but usually not necessary.
--Jay
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Re: Xerces-C / Patch Release Request
Posted by "Cantor, Scott" <ca...@osu.edu>.
On 4/11/13 12:59 PM, "shathawa@e-z.net" <sh...@e-z.net> wrote:
>
>I can check with Debian and Ubuntu integration teams to see what
>support there is to create (.deb) packages for their distributions.
I can't speak for Ubuntu, but there are official shibboleth packages for
Debian (that I don't maintain) and that includes Xerces, if it wasn't
already packaged. So I may know the maintainer, and the point is that you
don't do it twice. Somebody owns that responsibility and you/we/somebody
can share that or assist.
>Solaris-11 has also changed the way that software distribution
>packages are managed. I may still be able to test on Solaris-11
>on X64 platforms, but I first need to get comfortable with the
>platform.
Yes, Solaris packages are historically awful and there are a dozen
different packaging projects that are all different. Whether Oracle is
changing that and using something new that actually works I couldn't say,
but nothing that existed in Solaris alone was usable before or worth
wasting the time on.
-- Scott
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Re: Xerces-C / Patch Release Request
Posted by sh...@e-z.net.
> On 4/11/13 12:35 PM, "shathawa@e-z.net" <sh...@e-z.net> wrote:
>
>>Besides windows builds with VS 2003, 2005, 2008, 2010, 2012 -
>>I also perform builds on FreeBSD, PCBSD, and GNU Linux.
>>I DO NOT build packages for Debian and RedHat package managers.
>>I DO build debug and release builds of Xerces-C from sources.
>
> For Linux, it is risky in the extreme to rely on binaries built for one
> distro on another.
I Understand!
>
> I provide RPMs for Xerces as needed on all the platforms I support that
> don't ship their own. If the project wanted to do that formally, I can
> assist with that, or it could offer a pointer to my packages at
> build.opensuse.org if it likes.
>
> I don't do Debian, but those packages exist, and that is the manner in
> which Debian users want and need to get the software. Binaries just don't
> fly.
I can check with Debian and Ubuntu integration teams to see what
support there is to create (.deb) packages for their distributions.
>>I have not been successful in creating a SunStudio 12.3
>>environment for testing with Solaris-11. The Solaris-11
>>will only support a 64-bit environment. Solaris-10
>>supports both 32-bit and 64-bit platforms.
Solaris-11 has also changed the way that software distribution
packages are managed. I may still be able to test on Solaris-11
on X64 platforms, but I first need to get comfortable with the
platform.
- Steven J. Hathaway
>
> I thought I had been testing both on Solaris 11 but I can't verify that
> right this second.
>
> -- Scott
>
>
>
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Re: Xerces-C / Patch Release Request
Posted by "Cantor, Scott" <ca...@osu.edu>.
On 4/11/13 12:35 PM, "shathawa@e-z.net" <sh...@e-z.net> wrote:
>Besides windows builds with VS 2003, 2005, 2008, 2010, 2012 -
>I also perform builds on FreeBSD, PCBSD, and GNU Linux.
>I DO NOT build packages for Debian and RedHat package managers.
>I DO build debug and release builds of Xerces-C from sources.
For Linux, it is risky in the extreme to rely on binaries built for one
distro on another.
I provide RPMs for Xerces as needed on all the platforms I support that
don't ship their own. If the project wanted to do that formally, I can
assist with that, or it could offer a pointer to my packages at
build.opensuse.org if it likes.
I don't do Debian, but those packages exist, and that is the manner in
which Debian users want and need to get the software. Binaries just don't
fly.
>I have not been successful in creating a SunStudio 12.3
>environment for testing with Solaris-11. The Solaris-11
>will only support a 64-bit environment. Solaris-10
>supports both 32-bit and 64-bit platforms.
I thought I had been testing both on Solaris 11 but I can't verify that
right this second.
-- Scott
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Re: Xerces-C / Patch Release Request
Posted by sh...@e-z.net.
Scott & Boris,
Besides windows builds with VS 2003, 2005, 2008, 2010, 2012 -
I also perform builds on FreeBSD, PCBSD, and GNU Linux.
I DO NOT build packages for Debian and RedHat package managers.
I DO build debug and release builds of Xerces-C from sources.
I can send some pings to other Xerces/Xalan developers to
see if they can perform testing on their AIX and Solaris-10
platforms.
I have not been successful in creating a SunStudio 12.3
environment for testing with Solaris-11. The Solaris-11
will only support a 64-bit environment. Solaris-10
supports both 32-bit and 64-bit platforms.
I will gladly share my insights on this list and make
postings to JIRA.
Sincerely,
Steven J. Hathaway
> Hi Scott,
>
> Cantor, Scott <ca...@osu.edu> writes:
>
>> I'm happy to spend some time testing the build on my supported platforms
>> once it's ready to go.
>
> Yes, that would great. The more testing we can get done, the better.
>
>
>> I would suggest as a way of perhaps reducing time commitment than
>> actually
>> producing binaries for other than Windows is not a great use of time.
>
> Yes, I was also thinking along those lines, especially for platforms
> like HPUX, AIX, etc. But perhaps you are right, maybe we should drop
> everything except Windows. Would be good idea to send an email to the
> lists and check if anyone objects.
>
> Boris
>
>
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Re: Xerces-C / Patch Release Request
Posted by "Cantor, Scott" <ca...@osu.edu>.
On 4/11/13 5:03 AM, "Boris Kolpackov" <bo...@codesynthesis.com> wrote:
>
>> I would suggest as a way of perhaps reducing time commitment than
>>actually
>> producing binaries for other than Windows is not a great use of time.
>
>Yes, I was also thinking along those lines, especially for platforms
>like HPUX, AIX, etc. But perhaps you are right, maybe we should drop
>everything except Windows. Would be good idea to send an email to the
>lists and check if anyone objects.
For Linux it's literally a complete waste of your time, same for Mac.
Solaris is the one that you can make a case for, but it's also the worst
of the lot by far to deal with, and there are so many variables involved
in that platform that I know it never was of any use to me in producing my
software.
-- Scott
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Re: Xerces-C / Patch Release Request
Posted by Boris Kolpackov <bo...@codesynthesis.com>.
Hi Scott,
Cantor, Scott <ca...@osu.edu> writes:
> I'm happy to spend some time testing the build on my supported platforms
> once it's ready to go.
Yes, that would great. The more testing we can get done, the better.
> I would suggest as a way of perhaps reducing time commitment than actually
> producing binaries for other than Windows is not a great use of time.
Yes, I was also thinking along those lines, especially for platforms
like HPUX, AIX, etc. But perhaps you are right, maybe we should drop
everything except Windows. Would be good idea to send an email to the
lists and check if anyone objects.
Boris
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Re: Xerces-C / Patch Release Request
Posted by "Cantor, Scott" <ca...@osu.edu>.
On 4/10/13 10:46 AM, "Boris Kolpackov" <bo...@codesynthesis.com> wrote:
>I was hoping to find time and make a release around June or July.
>It would also be a good idea to spend some time and try to fix some
>new bugs that have been uncovered since the 3.1.0 release. Not sure
>if you would like to wait or if you want to press ahead. But your
>help would be greatly appreciated.
I'm happy to spend some time testing the build on my supported platforms
once it's ready to go.
I would suggest as a way of perhaps reducing time commitment than actually
producing binaries for other than Windows is not a great use of time. Most
projects using this software need packaging, not binaries. The focus
should be on making sure configure; make works well. In my opinion anyway.
-- Scott
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