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Posted to dev@community.apache.org by William A Rowe Jr <wr...@rowe-clan.net> on 2016/01/17 03:51:39 UTC
Finding your niche (Re: Want a Mentor)
Pawal, and other newcomers,
Absolutely the best was to become a contributor is to begin by becoming a
user of one or more projects!
In time, you will find some shortcoming or missing feature that would make
your work easier or make your life better. That's the 'ah hah' moment when
you can dig into the source code, and whip up a patch that benefits you.
We call that 'scratching your own itch'.
By the time you bring that patch back to the project you will have some
familiarity with the project, as a user, and a beginning understanding of
the code underneath the project. At that point, asking for a mentor to
help you refine your patch and have it accepted and incorporated into the
project is a terrific help. Each project has their own approach and
collaborative style, even though all operate somewhat similarly. A mentor
can be a big help with constructive criticism and encouragement.
Best of luck!
On Jan 15, 2016 00:53, "Paweł Kłos" <pa...@pawelklos.eu> wrote:
Hi,
Definitely I agree with Jain. I'm a newcomer also. Up to this moment I was
silently crawling Apache project searching for a project I could take a
part of.
Only added value is that I found many interesting Apache projects that I'll
use at work, but still don't know how to (in practice) contribute to one.
Regards,
Pawel Klos
On 2016-01-14 21:34, Kapil Jain wrote:
> No problem Patricia. Yes, it would be very helpful if Apache can have a
> help wanted page, with needs and required skills and may be complexity of
> theissue. It will be very helpful for any newcomer. I have spent 1-2 hrs
> today going thru almost all incubate projects, still no luck with finding a
> way to start/ take a first step.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org> wrote:
>
> I'm sorry - I thought you had already selected Hadoop. I don't know any
>> alternative to picking projects, browsing their developer lists, and
>> seeing
>> if anything interests you.
>>
>> Maybe Apache needs a "Help wanted" web page where projects can list their
>> needs?
>>
>>
>> On 1/14/2016 12:24 PM, Kapil Jain wrote:
>>
>> Yes, at a high level - however its providing details about version
>>> controlling. feedback/ bugs reporting etc.
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a suitable project for me I can start understanding it
>>> and
>>> then contributing to it.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Have you read http://www.apache.org/dev/contributors?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/14/2016 11:59 AM, Kapil Jain wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Still struggling to find a project and take my first step. Looking for
>>>>
>>>>> mentor who can just help me in getting started.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Kapil Jain <ka...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Can someone please help me in finding out a suitable project where I
>>>>> can
>>>>>
>>>>> contribute? I'm more interested in Hadoop and Java. But can work on
>>>>>> another
>>>>>> project and/ or language.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Ross Gardler <
>>>>>> Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Welcome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please see details of the process at
>>>>>>> http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It should be noted that 95% of the work is on your side. Success in
>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>> source is about self motivation and self management. The other 5% is
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> asking for help when you hit a barrier. The above link should provide
>>>>>>> enough info to get you started.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: Kapil Jain<ma...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: 1/11/2016 8:24 AM
>>>>>>> To: dev@community.apache.org<ma...@community.apache.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Want a Mentor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to join apache mentorship programme and want to
>>>>>>> contribute
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> Apache Hadoop project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have Java skills required for the project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm unable to figure out how to contribute. Please assist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Kapil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
Re: Finding your niche (Re: Want a Mentor)
Posted by Kiattipoom Wongyai <ki...@gmail.com>.
เมื่อ 17 ม.ค. 2016 9:51, "William A Rowe Jr" <wr...@rowe-clan.net> เขียนว่า:
>
> Pawal, and other newcomers,
>
> Absolutely the best was to become a contributor is to begin by becoming a
> user of one or more projects!
>
> In time, you will find some shortcoming or missing feature that would make
> your work easier or make your life better. That's the 'ah hah' moment
when
> you can dig into the source code, and whip up a patch that benefits you.
> We call that 'scratching your own itch'.
>
> By the time you bring that patch back to the project you will have some
> familiarity with the project, as a user, and a beginning understanding of
> the code underneath the project. At that point, asking for a mentor to
> help you refine your patch and have it accepted and incorporated into the
> project is a terrific help. Each project has their own approach and
> collaborative style, even though all operate somewhat similarly. A mentor
> can be a big help with constructive criticism and encouragement.
>
> Best of luck!
> On Jan 15, 2016 00:53, "Paweł Kłos" <pa...@pawelklos.eu> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Definitely I agree with Jain. I'm a newcomer also. Up to this moment I was
> silently crawling Apache project searching for a project I could take a
> part of.
> Only added value is that I found many interesting Apache projects that
I'll
> use at work, but still don't know how to (in practice) contribute to one.
>
> Regards,
> Pawel Klos
>
>
> On 2016-01-14 21:34, Kapil Jain wrote:
>
> > No problem Patricia. Yes, it would be very helpful if Apache can have a
> > help wanted page, with needs and required skills and may be complexity
of
> > theissue. It will be very helpful for any newcomer. I have spent 1-2 hrs
> > today going thru almost all incubate projects, still no luck with
finding a
> > way to start/ take a first step.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org> wrote:
> >
> > I'm sorry - I thought you had already selected Hadoop. I don't know any
> >> alternative to picking projects, browsing their developer lists, and
> >> seeing
> >> if anything interests you.
> >>
> >> Maybe Apache needs a "Help wanted" web page where projects can list
their
> >> needs?
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/14/2016 12:24 PM, Kapil Jain wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, at a high level - however its providing details about version
> >>> controlling. feedback/ bugs reporting etc.
> >>>
> >>> I'm looking for a suitable project for me I can start understanding it
> >>> and
> >>> then contributing to it.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org>
wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Have you read http://www.apache.org/dev/contributors?
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 1/14/2016 11:59 AM, Kapil Jain wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Still struggling to find a project and take my first step. Looking
for
> >>>>
> >>>>> mentor who can just help me in getting started.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Kapil Jain <kapil.jain123@gmail.com
>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can someone please help me in finding out a suitable project where I
> >>>>> can
> >>>>>
> >>>>> contribute? I'm more interested in Hadoop and Java. But can work on
> >>>>>> another
> >>>>>> project and/ or language.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Ross Gardler <
> >>>>>> Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Welcome.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please see details of the process at
> >>>>>>> http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme.html
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It should be noted that 95% of the work is on your side. Success
in
> >>>>>>> open
> >>>>>>> source is about self motivation and self management. The other 5%
is
> >>>>>>> about
> >>>>>>> asking for help when you hit a barrier. The above link should
provide
> >>>>>>> enough info to get you started.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sent from my Windows Phone
> >>>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>>> From: Kapil Jain<ma...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> Sent: 1/11/2016 8:24 AM
> >>>>>>> To: dev@community.apache.org<ma...@community.apache.org>
> >>>>>>> Subject: Want a Mentor
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I would like to join apache mentorship programme and want to
> >>>>>>> contribute
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> Apache Hadoop project.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have Java skills required for the project.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm unable to figure out how to contribute. Please assist.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> Kapil
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
Re: Finding your niche (Re: Want a Mentor)
Posted by Tony Wilford <to...@gmail.com>.
Me, myself and eye are very much the uncouth ruffian is putting moi too
sense in so sign me up fore another six O wate, dun forgot i a got a
critacal MOS soz on call but do so love the field tests .
Beware, Virgo,Virgo,Virgo
9-7-57
Still hold 7 records after 40 yrs in USMC
Grew up in AK
Ride drive fly opperate fix anything butt a broken hart
forgot tu tell ewe im actualy Gods older brother and I didnt teach him
diddly
I can think up moor crap faster than i can write it down
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016, 6:51 PM William A Rowe Jr <wr...@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
> Pawal, and other newcomers,
>
> Absolutely the best was to become a contributor is to begin by becoming a
> user of one or more projects!
>
> In time, you will find some shortcoming or missing feature that would make
> your work easier or make your life better. That's the 'ah hah' moment when
> you can dig into the source code, and whip up a patch that benefits you.
> We call that 'scratching your own itch'.
>
> By the time you bring that patch back to the project you will have some
> familiarity with the project, as a user, and a beginning understanding of
> the code underneath the project. At that point, asking for a mentor to
> help you refine your patch and have it accepted and incorporated into the
> project is a terrific help. Each project has their own approach and
> collaborative style, even though all operate somewhat similarly. A mentor
> can be a big help with constructive criticism and encouragement.
>
> Best of luck!
> On Jan 15, 2016 00:53, "Paweł Kłos" <pa...@pawelklos.eu> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Definitely I agree with Jain. I'm a newcomer also. Up to this moment I was
> silently crawling Apache project searching for a project I could take a
> part of.
> Only added value is that I found many interesting Apache projects that I'll
> use at work, but still don't know how to (in practice) contribute to one.
>
> Regards,
> Pawel Klos
>
>
> On 2016-01-14 21:34, Kapil Jain wrote:
>
> > No problem Patricia. Yes, it would be very helpful if Apache can have a
> > help wanted page, with needs and required skills and may be complexity of
> > theissue. It will be very helpful for any newcomer. I have spent 1-2 hrs
> > today going thru almost all incubate projects, still no luck with
> finding a
> > way to start/ take a first step.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org> wrote:
> >
> > I'm sorry - I thought you had already selected Hadoop. I don't know any
> >> alternative to picking projects, browsing their developer lists, and
> >> seeing
> >> if anything interests you.
> >>
> >> Maybe Apache needs a "Help wanted" web page where projects can list
> their
> >> needs?
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/14/2016 12:24 PM, Kapil Jain wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, at a high level - however its providing details about version
> >>> controlling. feedback/ bugs reporting etc.
> >>>
> >>> I'm looking for a suitable project for me I can start understanding it
> >>> and
> >>> then contributing to it.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Have you read http://www.apache.org/dev/contributors?
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 1/14/2016 11:59 AM, Kapil Jain wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Still struggling to find a project and take my first step. Looking for
> >>>>
> >>>>> mentor who can just help me in getting started.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Kapil Jain <kapil.jain123@gmail.com
> >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can someone please help me in finding out a suitable project where I
> >>>>> can
> >>>>>
> >>>>> contribute? I'm more interested in Hadoop and Java. But can work on
> >>>>>> another
> >>>>>> project and/ or language.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Ross Gardler <
> >>>>>> Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Welcome.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please see details of the process at
> >>>>>>> http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme.html
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It should be noted that 95% of the work is on your side. Success in
> >>>>>>> open
> >>>>>>> source is about self motivation and self management. The other 5%
> is
> >>>>>>> about
> >>>>>>> asking for help when you hit a barrier. The above link should
> provide
> >>>>>>> enough info to get you started.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sent from my Windows Phone
> >>>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>>> From: Kapil Jain<ma...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> Sent: 1/11/2016 8:24 AM
> >>>>>>> To: dev@community.apache.org<ma...@community.apache.org>
> >>>>>>> Subject: Want a Mentor
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I would like to join apache mentorship programme and want to
> >>>>>>> contribute
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> Apache Hadoop project.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have Java skills required for the project.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm unable to figure out how to contribute. Please assist.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> Kapil
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
>