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Posted to dev@httpd.apache.org by Brad Nicholes <BN...@novell.com> on 2001/10/05 22:37:10 UTC

1.3.21 fails on NetWare... please check other platforms..

The tagged version apache 1.3.21 fails on NetWare because of a problem in HTTPD.CONF.  A <Directory...> block was added to handle access to /manual/ which appears to be mis-configured.  The file httpd.conf-dist-nw contains the following block:

    # This Alias will project the on-line documentation tree into your
    # logical DocumentRoot. Comment it if you don't want to provide access
    # to the on-line docu for some reason.
    #
    Alias /manual/ "sys:/apache/manual/"

    <Directory "sys:/apache/manual">
        Options Indexes FollowSymlinks MultiViews
        AllowOverride None
        Order allow,deny
        Allow from all
    </Directory>

The problem is that "sys:/apache/manual" does not exist.  The directory path should be "sys:/apache/htdocs/manual".  The conf file for other platforms contains:

    # This Alias will project the on-line documentation tree into your
    # logical DocumentRoot. Comment it if you don't want to provide access
    # to the on-line docu for some reason.
    #
    Alias /manual/ "@@ServerRoot@@/manual/"

    <Directory "@@ServerRoot@@/manual">
        Options Indexes FollowSymlinks MultiViews
        AllowOverride None
        Order allow,deny
        Allow from all
    </Directory>


Shouldn't this be @@DocumentRoot@@ rather than @@ServerRoot@@ since /manual/ is a subdirectory of /htdocs/  ?

    # This Alias will project the on-line documentation tree into your
    # logical DocumentRoot. Comment it if you don't want to provide access
    # to the on-line docu for some reason.
    #
    Alias /manual/ "@@DocumentRoot@@/manual/"

    <Directory "@@DocumentRoot@@/manual">
        Options Indexes FollowSymlinks MultiViews
        AllowOverride None
        Order allow,deny
        Allow from all
    </Directory>

I will be checking in a fix for "httpd.conf-dist-nw"

Brad

Re: 1.3.21 fails on NetWare... please check other platforms..

Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@covalent.net>.
Then this is broken on Win32 as well.

Looks like 1.3.21 must be tossed and this vetoed change modified
to reflect @@ServerRoot@@/htdocs/manual.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Nicholes" <BN...@novell.com>
To: <de...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:37 PM
Subject: 1.3.21 fails on NetWare... please check other platforms..


The tagged version apache 1.3.21 fails on NetWare because of a problem in HTTPD.CONF.  A <Directory...> block was added to handle
access to /manual/ which appears to be mis-configured.  The file httpd.conf-dist-nw contains the following block:

    # This Alias will project the on-line documentation tree into your
    # logical DocumentRoot. Comment it if you don't want to provide access
    # to the on-line docu for some reason.
    #
    Alias /manual/ "sys:/apache/manual/"

    <Directory "sys:/apache/manual">
        Options Indexes FollowSymlinks MultiViews
        AllowOverride None
        Order allow,deny
        Allow from all
    </Directory>

The problem is that "sys:/apache/manual" does not exist.  The directory path should be "sys:/apache/htdocs/manual".  The conf file
for other platforms contains:

    # This Alias will project the on-line documentation tree into your
    # logical DocumentRoot. Comment it if you don't want to provide access
    # to the on-line docu for some reason.
    #
    Alias /manual/ "@@ServerRoot@@/manual/"

    <Directory "@@ServerRoot@@/manual">
        Options Indexes FollowSymlinks MultiViews
        AllowOverride None
        Order allow,deny
        Allow from all
    </Directory>


Shouldn't this be @@DocumentRoot@@ rather than @@ServerRoot@@ since /manual/ is a subdirectory of /htdocs/  ?

    # This Alias will project the on-line documentation tree into your
    # logical DocumentRoot. Comment it if you don't want to provide access
    # to the on-line docu for some reason.
    #
    Alias /manual/ "@@DocumentRoot@@/manual/"

    <Directory "@@DocumentRoot@@/manual">
        Options Indexes FollowSymlinks MultiViews
        AllowOverride None
        Order allow,deny
        Allow from all
    </Directory>

I will be checking in a fix for "httpd.conf-dist-nw"

Brad

Re: 1.3.21 fails on NetWare... please check other platforms..

Posted by Martin Kraemer <Ma...@Fujitsu-Siemens.com>.
On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 09:10:47AM -0400, Bill Stoddard wrote:
> > For the Record, I'm:
> > -1 [also veto] for changing from @@ServerRoot@@/htdocs/manual
> > 
> > +1 for providing <Directory > and Alias from manual to @@ServerRoot/htdocs/manual.

So, did anybody follow my latest patches in this area, and does
everybody think that

*) the veto has been addressed (the defaults have been reverted to
   @@ServerRoot@@/htdocs/manual) and

*) the possibility of the --manualdir= override does not break anything

?
Hopefully, no objections remain.

  Martin
-- 
<Ma...@Fujitsu-Siemens.com>         |     Fujitsu Siemens
Fon: +49-89-636-46021, FAX: +49-89-636-47655 | 81730  Munich,  Germany

Re: 1.3.21 fails on NetWare... please check other platforms..

Posted by Bill Stoddard <bi...@wstoddard.com>.
+1 on all Bill's suggestions.

Bill

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@covalent.net>
To: <de...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: 1.3.21 fails on NetWare... please check other platforms..


> From: "Cliff Woolley" <cl...@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 10:15 PM
> 
> 
> > On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Greg Stein wrote:
> > 
> > > Um... gotta ask Ken about this. He vetoed a change in this area.
> > >
> > > If the change related to the veto hasn't been backed out, then we may have
> > > to yank 1.3.21
> > 
> > I'd totally forgotten it had been vetoed.  :-/ Anyhow, it has definitely
> > NOT been completely backed out... look at httpd.conf-dist and
> > config.layout--the change is still in.
> 
> That's the point.  Had it been left, we might have been fine.  Having been
> 'halfway' retracted, we were sunk.
> 
> I've modified STATUS and propose we tag-n-roll 1.3.22 Monday, around Noon here
> in the States.
> 
> Gives Greg time to be sure the Expat stuff is dead on (didn't see any note
> in Changes post-1.3.21).  Gives us the weekend to decide how to solve manual.
> 
> For the Record, I'm:
> 
> -1 [also veto] for changing from @@ServerRoot@@/htdocs/manual
> 
> +1 for providing <Directory > and Alias from manual to @@ServerRoot/htdocs/manual.
> 
> My reason for -1; folks install over existing copies, now they have two conflicting
> versions of the Apache docs, one very stale.
> 
> My reason for +1; anyone who blasts htdocs/ and starts filling it in hasn't been
> using apache very long.  But most folks who point off to /home/www/ or whereever
> still might prefer the docs handy.  They can always delete this section when they
> change docroot, if they like.
> 
> And I AGREE with moving manual out from under /htdocs in the 2.0 tree.  But we
> are looking for _least_ surprize for 1.3 upgraders.
> 
> Bill
>

Re: 1.3.21 fails on NetWare... please check other platforms..

Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@lyra.org>.
On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 10:38:23PM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
>...
> Gives Greg time to be sure the Expat stuff is dead on (didn't see any note
> in Changes post-1.3.21).  Gives us the weekend to decide how to solve manual.

I believe it is done. I did some additional testing with the lib/expat-lite
removed and it behaved as expected, so I don't have any further changes. The
tweak that I did didn't warrant a CHANGES entry.

Cheers,
-g

-- 
Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: 1.3.21 fails on NetWare... please check other platforms..

Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@covalent.net>.
From: "Cliff Woolley" <cl...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 10:15 PM


> On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Greg Stein wrote:
> 
> > Um... gotta ask Ken about this. He vetoed a change in this area.
> >
> > If the change related to the veto hasn't been backed out, then we may have
> > to yank 1.3.21
> 
> I'd totally forgotten it had been vetoed.  :-/ Anyhow, it has definitely
> NOT been completely backed out... look at httpd.conf-dist and
> config.layout--the change is still in.

That's the point.  Had it been left, we might have been fine.  Having been
'halfway' retracted, we were sunk.

I've modified STATUS and propose we tag-n-roll 1.3.22 Monday, around Noon here
in the States.

Gives Greg time to be sure the Expat stuff is dead on (didn't see any note
in Changes post-1.3.21).  Gives us the weekend to decide how to solve manual.

For the Record, I'm:

-1 [also veto] for changing from @@ServerRoot@@/htdocs/manual

+1 for providing <Directory > and Alias from manual to @@ServerRoot/htdocs/manual.

My reason for -1; folks install over existing copies, now they have two conflicting
versions of the Apache docs, one very stale.

My reason for +1; anyone who blasts htdocs/ and starts filling it in hasn't been
using apache very long.  But most folks who point off to /home/www/ or whereever
still might prefer the docs handy.  They can always delete this section when they
change docroot, if they like.

And I AGREE with moving manual out from under /htdocs in the 2.0 tree.  But we
are looking for _least_ surprize for 1.3 upgraders.

Bill

Re: 1.3.21 fails on NetWare... please check other platforms..

Posted by Cliff Woolley <cl...@yahoo.com>.
On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Greg Stein wrote:

> Um... gotta ask Ken about this. He vetoed a change in this area.
>
> If the change related to the veto hasn't been backed out, then we may have
> to yank 1.3.21

I'd totally forgotten it had been vetoed.  :-/ Anyhow, it has definitely
NOT been completely backed out... look at httpd.conf-dist and
config.layout--the change is still in.

--Cliff

--------------------------------------------------------------
   Cliff Woolley
   cliffwoolley@yahoo.com
   Charlottesville, VA

Re: 1.3.21 fails on NetWare... please check other platforms..

Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@lyra.org>.
On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 04:44:21PM -0400, Cliff Woolley wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Brad Nicholes wrote:
> 
> > Shouldn't this be @@DocumentRoot@@ rather than @@ServerRoot@@ since
> > /manual/ is a subdirectory of /htdocs/ ?
> 
> But /manual/ is not a subdirectory of /htdocs/ anymore (or at least it
> doesn't get installed there).  That's the whole point.

Um... gotta ask Ken about this. He vetoed a change in this area.

If the change related to the veto hasn't been backed out, then we may have
to yank 1.3.21

Cheers,
-g

-- 
Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: 1.3.21 fails on NetWare... please check other platforms..

Posted by Cliff Woolley <cl...@yahoo.com>.
On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Brad Nicholes wrote:

> Shouldn't this be @@DocumentRoot@@ rather than @@ServerRoot@@ since
> /manual/ is a subdirectory of /htdocs/ ?

But /manual/ is not a subdirectory of /htdocs/ anymore (or at least it
doesn't get installed there).  That's the whole point.

--Cliff

--------------------------------------------------------------
   Cliff Woolley
   cliffwoolley@yahoo.com
   Charlottesville, VA