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[Bug 6756] New: allow consistent scores independent of environment

https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6756

             Bug #: 6756
           Summary: allow consistent scores independent of environment
           Product: Spamassassin
           Version: SVN Trunk (Latest Devel Version)
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: spamassassin
        AssignedTo: dev@spamassassin.apache.org
        ReportedBy: jidanni@jidanni.org
    Classification: Unclassified


You might think that having four different scores for each item is a
stroke of genius.

But for those of us that think otherwise please provide

Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf
make_all_scores local
make_all_scores bayes
make_all_scores network
or whatever options.

Don't force uses who want consistent scores not depending on environment
to have to list each one over again in user_prefs.

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[Bug 6756] allow consistent scores independent of environment

Posted by bu...@bugzilla.spamassassin.org.
https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6756

--- Comment #3 from Kevin A. McGrail <km...@pccc.com> 2012-02-12 15:15:32 UTC ---
I should mention, you should be able to write a script that takes 50_scores.cf,
picks the column you want and writes out all columns to match after you run
sa-update.

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[Bug 6756] allow consistent scores independent of environment

Posted by bu...@bugzilla.spamassassin.org.
https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6756

jidanni@jidanni.org changed:

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--- Comment #1 from jidanni@jidanni.org 2012-02-11 01:39:58 UTC ---
And yes, if I specify I want local scores, that means I still want something
consistent for network-only tests too.

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[Bug 6756] allow consistent scores independent of environment

Posted by bu...@bugzilla.spamassassin.org.
https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6756

Kevin A. McGrail <km...@pccc.com> changed:

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         Resolution|                            |WONTFIX

--- Comment #2 from Kevin A. McGrail <km...@pccc.com> 2012-02-12 15:14:41 UTC ---
The scores provided are based on running our engine through those specific
configuration scenarios to try and achieve the best spam/ham ratio.  Using the
scores for a different scenario will not make SA work as designed.  Sorry.

Regards,
KAM

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[Bug 6756] allow consistent scores independent of environment

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Darxus <Da...@ChaosReigns.com> changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Darxus <Da...@ChaosReigns.com> 2012-02-12 17:56:50 UTC ---
I'm very curious, why do you feel it's a good idea to have consistent scores
for each rule (and less consistent total scores for each email) in different
environments instead of optimal accuracy?

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[Bug 6756] allow consistent scores independent of environment

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--- Comment #5 from jidanni@jidanni.org 2012-02-12 18:20:59 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #4)
Thanks. Mainly that would make it possible to test offline (--local)
without having ones score tweaks being based on something different then
the remote machine where the stuff will be used...
Now if there was a --give-scores-assuming-we-are-online ...

OK, I guess I should remove --local from my test scripts, and only test
when I have an internet connection.

Anyway, I still think a TOO_MANY_COMMAS or whatever is just as bad
online as off, but OK ... I guess I will not test at home anymore.

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