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Posted to dev@echarts.apache.org by siwen su <su...@gmail.com> on 2020/08/02 03:58:43 UTC
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Hi all:
I have nothing to say about website, It apply all rules of Apache, and most
importantly, add some very useful features.
About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I haven't work with them,
but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin Zhifeng and Mr Dong Rui had
made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even thought they haven't
contribute during incubating but It can't change the fact that they have
laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as PMC in future would be
reasonable
As for the password, distribute it via private mail list wasn't a great
idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would "steal" it,
especially we have discussed on dev mail list which lots of people know how
passport would be distributed.
Best regard
Siwen Su
Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四 下午12:57写道：
> Hi,
> 1. The current website is following the guide of podling website and it is
> all right for me.
> 2. Sending an important private key or password on email without any
> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email clients don’t encrypt the
> email content by default and this may lead to a leak of content if it’s
> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better to enable email
> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw password or any other
> important information in the content of the email by some advanced patterns
> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list or elsewhere.
> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should always keep the founder
> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts project. As I know, he’s
> been helping silently ECharts project improve and develop by his
> professional suggestions.
>
> Thanks,
> Zhongxiang Wang.
>
> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a lot since our
> > incubation in Jan
> > 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about whether we are ready
> for
> > graduation and
> > what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this discussion, we can set the
> > status to be
> > "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> >
> > Updates since incubation:
> > - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote and undergoing the
> > process) and 7
> > new committers were elected and joined the community [1] and now
> > we have committers working for more than 6 different companies.
> > - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have 79 people subscribed to
> > it.
> > - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3]; release guide is at [4]
> > - 73 people have contributed to the project during incubation [9]
> > - Assessment of the maturity model is available at [5]
> > - Branding issues have been solved and name searching has been completed
> [6]
> >
> > Other things we need to discuss:
> >
> > 1. Website
> > We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document, and so on according
> to
> > Apache rules
> > and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You may help check the
> > rules [8] and discuss
> > the ones that you think need to change.
> >
> > 2. Sponsored CDN
> > We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to improve speed in
> China
> > and
> > created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not sure how we
> > should distribute the
> > password of that account? Should we send the password on the private
> > mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4] depends on the
> password
> > of the CDN
> > private key. How should we distribute it?
> >
> > 3. PMCs and Committers
> > We have to discuss what to do with the initial PPMCs that had no clear
> > contribution to
> > the project during incubation. We should decide on each of them, do we
> wish
> > to make
> > him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's decided by the
> project,
> > so please talk about how you feel about this.
> > a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> >
> >
> > [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > [2] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > [3] https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > [4]
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> >
> > [5]
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > [6] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"` on the master branch
> > and merging
> > alias
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > *Ovilia*
> >
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org>.
Hi, Sheng
> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are configuration
> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and do you have open
> process about how to contribute on these tools?
Thank you for checking for the website and providing us with some useful suggestions.
Glad to let you know the progress of translation has updated.
I've just added an English translation for the "Spread Sheet Tool", which is one of the two tools that have no English translation. Another one ("Theme Builder") has been also under work, it will be finished ASAP.
Regards.
Zhongxiang Wang
On 2020/08/03 02:56:34, Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, Ovilia
>
> I don't remember, but there is a website link check in the incubator, does
> anyone/mentor remember this?
> From I read from your website, questions
> 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it with
> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is that? From my reading,
> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s) this repo?
> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the differences between
> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is any official release
> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could you clarify what they
> are?
> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are configuration
> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and do you have open
> process about how to contribute on these tools?
> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website download page, how
> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the ASF release process.
> Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, no binary) is never
> being voted. I could get the points, seems you provide the users to get a
> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted source tars make me unsure
> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other mentors think?
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午10:25写道：
>
> > Dear mentors,
> >
> > Can you help us review the graduation related documents and see if there is
> > something
> > to be improved?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > *Ovilia*
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <su...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all:
> > >
> > > I have nothing to say about website, It apply all rules of Apache, and
> > most
> > > importantly, add some very useful features.
> > >
> > > About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I haven't work with
> > them,
> > > but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin Zhifeng and Mr Dong Rui
> > had
> > > made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even thought they haven't
> > > contribute during incubating but It can't change the fact that they have
> > > laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as PMC in future would be
> > > reasonable
> > >
> > > As for the password, distribute it via private mail list wasn't a great
> > > idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would "steal" it,
> > > especially we have discussed on dev mail list which lots of people know
> > how
> > > passport would be distributed.
> > >
> > > Best regard
> > >
> > > Siwen Su
> > >
> > > Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四 下午12:57写道：
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 1. The current website is following the guide of podling website and it
> > > is
> > > > all right for me.
> > > > 2. Sending an important private key or password on email without any
> > > > encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email clients don’t encrypt the
> > > > email content by default and this may lead to a leak of content if it’s
> > > > intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better to enable email
> > > > encryption in email client and encrypt the raw password or any other
> > > > important information in the content of the email by some advanced
> > > patterns
> > > > difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list or elsewhere.
> > > > 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should always keep the
> > > founder
> > > > Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts project. As I know,
> > > he’s
> > > > been helping silently ECharts project improve and develop by his
> > > > professional suggestions.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Zhongxiang Wang.
> > > >
> > > > On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a lot since our
> > > > > incubation in Jan
> > > > > 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about whether we are
> > ready
> > > > for
> > > > > graduation and
> > > > > what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this discussion, we can set
> > > the
> > > > > status to be
> > > > > "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > > > >
> > > > > Updates since incubation:
> > > > > - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote and undergoing the
> > > > > process) and 7
> > > > > new committers were elected and joined the community [1] and now
> > > > > we have committers working for more than 6 different companies.
> > > > > - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have 79 people
> > subscribed
> > > to
> > > > > it.
> > > > > - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3]; release guide is at
> > > [4]
> > > > > - 73 people have contributed to the project during incubation [9]
> > > > > - Assessment of the maturity model is available at [5]
> > > > > - Branding issues have been solved and name searching has been
> > > completed
> > > > [6]
> > > > >
> > > > > Other things we need to discuss:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Website
> > > > > We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document, and so on
> > according
> > > > to
> > > > > Apache rules
> > > > > and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You may help check
> > the
> > > > > rules [8] and discuss
> > > > > the ones that you think need to change.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Sponsored CDN
> > > > > We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to improve speed in
> > > > China
> > > > > and
> > > > > created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not sure how we
> > > > > should distribute the
> > > > > password of that account? Should we send the password on the private
> > > > > mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > > > > Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4] depends on the
> > > > password
> > > > > of the CDN
> > > > > private key. How should we distribute it?
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. PMCs and Committers
> > > > > We have to discuss what to do with the initial PPMCs that had no
> > clear
> > > > > contribution to
> > > > > the project during incubation. We should decide on each of them, do
> > we
> > > > wish
> > > > > to make
> > > > > him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's decided by the
> > > > project,
> > > > > so please talk about how you feel about this.
> > > > > a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > > > > b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > > > > c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > > > > [2] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > [3] https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > > > > [4]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > >
> > > > > [5]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > > [6] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > > > > [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > > > > [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > > > [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"` on the master
> > > branch
> > > > > and merging
> > > > > alias
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@comcast.net>.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 3, 2020, at 4:21 AM, Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source package is
>> never been voted is my concern.
>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is a change or
>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no one would
>> check.
>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about that, the
>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
>>
>
> I think I get your point. An important reason is the build script used on
> the custom builder page is not been checked and voted.
> I agree to remove this page. But there are still about 1.5k developers
> using this online tool everyday.
> We should take it carefully to guide these developers to build from source
> in local.
Let’s not be so quick to remove this service to ECharts users. Let’s think about how to make it compliant.
I’ve seen a message from a board member that they used this feature and thought it was cool.
Regards,
Dave
>
> Thanks
>
>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道：
>>
>>> Hi, Sheng
>>>
>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an official
>>> apache
>>>> release.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is bringing the local
>> CLI
>>> to the web.
>>> In which developers can
>>>
>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have been voted.
>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js file on the
>> browser.
>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
>>>
>>> I guess the main difference between this and the local CLI is all the
>>> processes are on the browser.
>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause potential risks in
>>> it.
>>>
>>
>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source package is
>> never been voted is my concern.
>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is a change or
>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no one would
>> check.
>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about that, the
>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
>>
>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道：
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the navigator. I thought it
>>> meant
>>>>> if there's a
>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't realize it
>> means
>>>> the
>>>>> link is
>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the community,
>>> something
>>>>> similar
>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted on a Baidu
>>> server
>>>>> and we don't
>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
>>>>> How about removing the project from the navigator and list it
>> somewhere
>>>> as
>>>>> a
>>>>> community resource?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of community/ecosystem. And
>>> not
>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the Apache ECharts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2] and the current
>>>>> download-theme page
>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is this a problem?
>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so they are links to
>>> related
>>>>> GitHub projects.
>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs about links to
>>> 3rd
>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
>>>> That includes, how and where to report the bug/security issue when
>> those
>>>> extensions have issues.
>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as enhancement,
>> iteration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We didn't put a "help
>>>>> translate" note because
>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to translate and it should
>> be
>>>>> done within a few
>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a "(in Chinese)"
>> note
>>>> in
>>>>> the navigator.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they could finish
>>> those
>>>> before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I hope to ease other
>>>> people's concern.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release with the least source
>>>> files
>>>>> required.
>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is not using the source
>>> files
>>>>> voted.
>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the source file
>> from
>>>>> Apache SVN
>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does that seem to
>> work
>>>> for
>>>>> you?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an official
>>> apache
>>>> release.
>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if you prefer the
>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to repackage the source
>>>> code?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
>>>>> [2]
>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
>>>>> [3] https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do remember there was
>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is testing for this
>>>> policy:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link check in the
>>> incubator,
>>>>>> does
>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it with
>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is that? From my
>>>>>> reading,
>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s) this repo?
>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the differences
>>>>> between
>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is any official
>>>>> release
>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could you clarify
>>> what
>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> are?
>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are
>> configuration
>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and do you
>> have
>>>> open
>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools?
>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website download
>> page,
>>>> how
>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the ASF release
>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, no binary)
>> is
>>>>> never
>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you provide the users
>> to
>>>>> get a
>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted source tars make
>>> me
>>>>>> unsure
>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other mentors think?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午10:25写道：
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related documents and see
>> if
>>>>>> there is
>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>> to be improved?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <su...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all rules of
>>> Apache,
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I haven't
>> work
>>>> with
>>>>>>>> them,
>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin Zhifeng and Mr
>>> Dong
>>>>> Rui
>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even thought they
>>> haven't
>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't change the fact that
>>> they
>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as PMC in
>> future
>>>>> would
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> reasonable
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail list
>> wasn't a
>>>>> great
>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would "steal"
>> it,
>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which lots of
>>> people
>>>>> know
>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regard
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四 下午12:57写道：
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of podling
>> website
>>>> and
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on email
>> without
>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email clients don’t
>>>> encrypt
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead to a leak of
>> content
>>> if
>>>>>> it’s
>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better to enable
>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw password or any
>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the email by some
>>> advanced
>>>>>>>>> patterns
>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list or
>>> elsewhere.
>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should always keep
>>> the
>>>>>>>>> founder
>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts project.
>> As I
>>>>> know,
>>>>>>>>> he’s
>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and develop by
>> his
>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a lot since
>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about whether we
>>> are
>>>>>>>> ready
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this discussion, we
>>> can
>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote and
>>> undergoing
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the community [1] and
>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6 different
>> companies.
>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have 79 people
>>>>>>>> subscribed
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3]; release
>> guide
>>> is
>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> [4]
>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project during incubation
>>> [9]
>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available at [5]
>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name searching has
>> been
>>>>>>>>> completed
>>>>>>>>>> [6]
>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document, and so on
>>>>>>>> according
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You may help
>>>> check
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to improve
>>> speed
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> China
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not sure how we
>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send the password on the
>>>>> private
>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4] depends
>> on
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> password
>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial PPMCs that had
>>> no
>>>>>>>> clear
>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide on each of
>>> them,
>>>> do
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>> wish
>>>>>>>>>>> to make
>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's decided by
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> project,
>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>>>> [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"` on the
>>> master
>>>>>>>>> branch
>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
>>>>>>>>>>> alias
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yi Shen
>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Yi Shen
> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org>.
This list of proposed PMC members is all right for me.
Thanks,
Zhongxiang Wang
On 2020/08/17 03:27:42, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> After removing Ted Liu and use the name in [1]
> The proposed PMC member list is updated to be the following
> 14 people:
>
> * Houjin Huang <da...@apache.org>
> * Deqing Li <de...@apache.org>
> * Dong Rui <er...@apache.org>
> * Kener Linfeng <ke...@apache.org>
> * Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
> * Wenli Zhang <ov...@apache.org>
> * Shen Yi <sh...@apache.org>
> * Shuang Su <su...@apache.org>
> * Siwen Su <su...@apache.org>
> * Junting Wang <wa...@apache.org>
> * Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org>
> * Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>
> * Sheng Wu <wu...@apache.org>
> * Zak Wu <za...@apache.org>
>
> [1] http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?podling=echarts
>
> Thanks
>
> *Ovilia*
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 7:55 PM Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > FYI，Committers are still Committers of Echarts.
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:34 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > The list you provided, should be the PMC list only :)
> > > That is the graduation required. Because PMC takes the reasonability for
> > > the ECharts.
> > >
> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > >
> > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:32写道：
> > >
> > > > The roaster shows 21 people:
> > > > 4 mentors;
> > > > 11 PPMC members if not counting mentors (you can count the list of PPMC
> > > > (15));
> > > > 6 committers if not counting mentors and PPMC members.
> > > >
> > > > So 15 is the sum of mentors and PPMC members, and "Committers (21)" is
> > the
> > > > sum of mentors, PPMC members and non-PPMC committers.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > *Ovilia*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:26 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I am still not following
> > > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts Roster shows 15 PPMC
> > + 4
> > > > > mentors
> > > > >
> > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:22写道：
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Sheng,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry I didn't know mentors should be included. Of course we are
> > more
> > > > > than
> > > > > > willing
> > > > > > to include mentors here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > After adding mentors, the list has 21 members, which is the same as
> > > > > roaster
> > > > > > committer
> > > > > > number. The number 15 includes mentor but not committers so there
> > is no
> > > > > > problem
> > > > > > here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Updated list of members: (21 people)
> > > > > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > > > > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > > > > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > > > > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > > > > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > > > > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > > > > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > > > > > kmcgrail@apache.org Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > > > > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > > > > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > > > > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > > > > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > > > > > tedliu@apache.org Ted Liu
> > > > > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > > > > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > > > > > wave@apache.org Dave Fisher
> > > > > > wusheng@apache.org Sheng Wu
> > > > > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > > > > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > > > > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:13 PM Sheng Wu <
> > wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:08写道：
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It seems I need to include the initial members and vice
> > president
> > > > > name
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > vote email.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if we
> > take
> > > > all
> > > > > > > those
> > > > > > > > initial
> > > > > > > > PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects.
> > > > > > > > And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC
> > member
> > > > list
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So the full list of initial members would be: (email in
> > > > alphabetical
> > > > > > > order)
> > > > > > > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > > > > > > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > > > > > > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > > > > > > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > > > > > > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > > > > > > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > > > > > > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > > > > > > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > > > > > > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > > > > > > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > > > > > > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > > > > > > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > > > > > > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > > > > > > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > > > > > > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > > > > > > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > > > > > > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Based on the roaster, you only have 15 PPMC member,
> > > > > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts, here is 17
> > people.
> > > > > Which
> > > > > > > side is right?
> > > > > > > And, traditionally, mentors should be asked whether to stay in
> > the
> > > > PMC,
> > > > > > > default is yes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > More information on the vice president (chair of the project)
> > from
> > > > > [1]:
> > > > > > > > > PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members, with
> > one
> > > > > vote
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > project matters just like other PMC members. The primary duty
> > of a
> > > > > PMC
> > > > > > > > chair is
> > > > > > > > providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and
> > > > status
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > their project.
> > > > > > > > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing
> > list,
> > > > and
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > aware of
> > > > > > > > any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for
> > > > working
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > the PMC
> > > > > > > > as a whole to address any board concerns.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a
> > volunteer.
> > > > > During
> > > > > > > > incubation,
> > > > > > > > I have been helping the community to grow and push things
> > forward.
> > > > > And
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > been writing incubation report since then. I would like to
> > continue
> > > > > > > > contributing
> > > > > > > > and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache
> > > > > ECharts a
> > > > > > > > better
> > > > > > > > community.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > +1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs
> > and
> > > > you
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start
> > our
> > > > > vote
> > > > > > > > soon.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [1]
> > https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> > > > > > > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if no one
> > > > > > opposes.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <
> > oviliazhang@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> Hi,
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and
> > translated
> > > > > > tools.
> > > > > > > > >> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may have a
> > > > further
> > > > > > > > >> discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Please check and comment if there's a problem remaining.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1] in
> > > > > > dev@echarts
> > > > > > > > >> mailing list soon.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> [1]
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Thanks
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <
> > oviliazhang@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us with
> > > > > > graduation.
> > > > > > > We
> > > > > > > > >>> really appreciate it.
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist is
> > [2].
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before we
> > start a
> > > > > > vote.
> > > > > > > So
> > > > > > > > >>> please
> > > > > > > > >>> tell us if you find something should be changed.
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> [1]
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > > > > > >>> [2]
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <
> > > > max@preset.io
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and
> > wanted
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > >>>> introduce
> > > > > > > > >>>> myself and offer some help.
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache
> > Airflow
> > > > > (top
> > > > > > > > >>>> level)
> > > > > > > > >>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset
> > community
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > > >>>> currently
> > > > > > > > >>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50]
> > Proposal
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > >>>> ECharts as our main charting library
> > > > > > > > >>>> <
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>,
> > > > > > > looking
> > > > > > > > >>>> forward to collaborate!
> > > > > > > > >>>> <
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts'
> > > > graduation
> > > > > > > > >>>> process as
> > > > > > > > >>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a
> > > > > checklist
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>>> items
> > > > > > > > >>>> you're looking for help/support?
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> Max
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <
> > > > quillqian@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > >>>> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF
> > official
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>>> > community, including:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting
> > external
> > > > > > > content
> > > > > > > > >>>> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something
> > > > like
> > > > > > > “this
> > > > > > > > >>>> is not
> > > > > > > > >>>> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie
> > collecting
> > > > > > > > >>>> announcement on
> > > > > > > > >>>> > websites.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the
> > service
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > >>>> > stated out builded version can not represent official
> > > > version
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > >>>> is not
> > > > > > > > >>>> > for re-distributing.
> > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > >>>> > Quill
> > > > > > > > >>>> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will
> > use my
> > > > > > > > nickname)
> > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > >>>> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > 写道：
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> > 下午7:21写道：
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The
> > download
> > > > > > source
> > > > > > > > >>>> package
> > > > > > > > >>>> > is
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but
> > whether
> > > > > there
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >>>> > change
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> or
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't
> > know.
> > > > And
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > >>>> would
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual
> > confirmation
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > >>>> that, the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF
> > requirements.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is the
> > > > build
> > > > > > > script
> > > > > > > > >>>> used
> > > > > > > > >>>> > on
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and
> > voted.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still
> > about
> > > > 1.5k
> > > > > > > > >>>> developers
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> using this online tool everyday.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these
> > developers to
> > > > > > build
> > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > >>>> > source
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> in local.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > >>>> > > I think you could start a discussion in the
> > > > > gerneral@incubator
> > > > > > ,
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >>>> check
> > > > > > > > >>>> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than
> > > > > removing
> > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal
> > > > simulation
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > >>>> page,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at
> > least.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all
> > necessary
> > > > > env,
> > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > >>>> you
> > > > > > > > >>>> > just
> > > > > > > > >>>> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the
> > > > > > pre-requirement
> > > > > > > > >>>> env have
> > > > > > > > >>>> > > been installed correctly.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> Thanks
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > > > > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> > 下午4:14写道：
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Hi, Sheng
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar,
> > which
> > > > > > > includes
> > > > > > > > >>>> all
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only
> > that
> > > > is
> > > > > an
> > > > > > > > >>>> official
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is
> > > > > > bringing
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>>> local
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> CLI
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> to the web.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> In which developers can
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which
> > have
> > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > >>>> voted.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the
> > browser.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a
> > single js
> > > > > file
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> browser.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the
> > local
> > > > > CLI
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > >>>> all the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> processes are on the browser.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may
> > cause
> > > > > > > potential
> > > > > > > > >>>> risks
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> in
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> it.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The
> > download
> > > > > > source
> > > > > > > > >>>> package
> > > > > > > > >>>> > is
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but
> > whether
> > > > > there
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >>>> > change
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> or
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't
> > know.
> > > > And
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > >>>> would
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual
> > confirmation
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > >>>> that, the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF
> > requirements.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Regards.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > > > > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> > 下午2:52写道：
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the
> > > > navigator.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > > >>>> thought it
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> meant
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> if there's a
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I
> > > > didn't
> > > > > > > > realize
> > > > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> means
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> link is
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from
> > the
> > > > > > > > community,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> something
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> similar
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently
> > > > hosted
> > > > > > on a
> > > > > > > > >>>> Baidu
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> server
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and we don't
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the
> > navigator and
> > > > > > list
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> somewhere
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> as
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> a
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> community resource?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of
> > > > > > > > >>>> community/ecosystem.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> And
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> not
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend
> > the
> > > > > > Apache
> > > > > > > > >>>> ECharts.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source
> > release [2]
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> current
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-theme page
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our
> > server. Is
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> problem?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so
> > they
> > > > are
> > > > > > > links
> > > > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> related
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> GitHub projects.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction
> > on the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and
> > > > catalogs
> > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > >>>> links
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> to
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 3rd
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the
> > > > bug/security
> > > > > > > issue
> > > > > > > > >>>> when
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> those
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> extensions have issues.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as
> > > > > > > enhancement,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> iteration.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We
> > > > didn't
> > > > > > > put a
> > > > > > > > >>>> "help
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> translate" note because
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to
> > > > translate
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> should
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> be
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> done within a few
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will
> > have a
> > > > > "(in
> > > > > > > > >>>> Chinese)"
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> note
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> in
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the navigator.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether
> > > > they
> > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > >>>> finish
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> those
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the
> > incubator? I
> > > > > hope
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >>>> ease
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> other
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> people's concern.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > > > > least
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> source
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> files
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> required.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is
> > not
> > > > > using
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>>> source
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> files
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> voted.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to
> > get
> > > > the
> > > > > > > source
> > > > > > > > >>>> file
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> from
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Apache SVN
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded?
> > Does
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > >>>> seem to
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> for
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> you?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar,
> > which
> > > > > > > includes
> > > > > > > > >>>> all
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only
> > that
> > > > is
> > > > > an
> > > > > > > > >>>> official
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK.
> > Or,
> > > > if
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > >>>> prefer
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to
> > > > > > repackage
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> source
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> code?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [2]
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [3]
> > > > > > https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail
> > <
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do
> > > > > remember
> > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > >>>> was
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is
> > > > > testing
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > >>>> this
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> policy:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link
> > check
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> incubator,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> does
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could
> > compare
> > > > it
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese.
> > What is
> > > > > > that?
> > > > > > > > >>>> From
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> my
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> reading,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who
> > owns (s)
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > >>>> repo?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what
> > are
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> differences
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> between
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember
> > there
> > > > is
> > > > > > any
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> official
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> release
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these.
> > > > Could
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> clarify
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> what
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> they
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> are?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding,
> > they
> > > > are
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> configuration
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese
> > only,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> have
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> open
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the
> > > > website
> > > > > > > > download
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> page,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> how
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it
> > breaks
> > > > the
> > > > > > ASF
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> release
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> process.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not
> > > > source,
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > > >>>> binary)
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> is
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> never
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you
> > > > > provide
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> users
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> get a
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the
> > unvoted
> > > > > source
> > > > > > > > tars
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> make
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> me
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> unsure
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What
> > other
> > > > > > mentors
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> think?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> > > > > 上午10:25写道：
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related
> > > > > > documents
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> see
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> if
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> there is
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> something
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <
> > > > > > > > >>>> susiwen8@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It
> > apply all
> > > > > > rules
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> most
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification,
> > > > since I
> > > > > > > > haven't
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> with
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> them,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr
> > Lin
> > > > > > Zhifeng
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> Mr
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Dong
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Rui
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> had
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts,
> > even
> > > > > > thought
> > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> haven't
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't
> > change
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > fact
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> that
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> they
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> have
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming
> > they
> > > > as
> > > > > > PMC
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> future
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> would
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via
> > private
> > > > mail
> > > > > > > list
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> wasn't a
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> great
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone
> > else
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > > >>>> "steal"
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> it,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list
> > > > which
> > > > > > > lots
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> people
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> how
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org>
> > > > 于2020年7月30日周四
> > > > > > > > >>>> 下午12:57写道：
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the
> > guide of
> > > > > > > podling
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> website
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or
> > password
> > > > on
> > > > > > > email
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> without
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> any
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some
> > email
> > > > > > clients
> > > > > > > > >>>> don’t
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> encrypt
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead
> > to a
> > > > > leak
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> content
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> if
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it’s
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s
> > > > > better
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> enable
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> email
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the
> > raw
> > > > > > > password
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> any
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> other
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the
> > > > email
> > > > > by
> > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> advanced
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a
> > mailing
> > > > > list
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> elsewhere.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we
> > > > should
> > > > > > > > always
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> keep
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> founder
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to
> > > > ECharts
> > > > > > > > >>>> project.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> As I
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project
> > improve
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > develop
> > > > > > > > >>>> by
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> his
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <
> > > > > > oviliazhang@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and
> > > > > grown a
> > > > > > > lot
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> since
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> our
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion
> > > > about
> > > > > > > > whether
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> are
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> ready
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after
> > this
> > > > > > > > >>>> discussion,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> can
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> set
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed
> > the
> > > > vote
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> undergoing
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the
> > > > > > community
> > > > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> and
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> now
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6
> > > > > > different
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> companies.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and
> > we
> > > > have
> > > > > > 79
> > > > > > > > >>>> people
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers
> > > > [3];
> > > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> guide
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> is
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> at
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project
> > > > > during
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> incubation
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> [9]
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is
> > available
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > [5]
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name
> > > > > > searching
> > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> been
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> completed
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo,
> > > > > document,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>>> so
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> on
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> according
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all
> > requirements.
> > > > > You
> > > > > > > may
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> help
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> check
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a
> > sponsored
> > > > CDN
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >>>> improve
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> speed
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> in
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> China
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we
> > are
> > > > not
> > > > > > sure
> > > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send
> > the
> > > > > > password
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> private
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release
> > guide
> > > > > [4]
> > > > > > > > >>>> depends
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> on
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> password
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the
> > initial
> > > > > > PPMCs
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> had
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> no
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> clear
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should
> > decide
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > >>>> of
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> them,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> do
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither.
> > Basically,
> > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > >>>> decided
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> by
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about
> > this.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin
> > https://github.com/chriswong
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8]
> > > > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20
> > Jan,
> > > > > 2018"`
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> master
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > > > > > >>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail -
> > 703.798.0171
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > > > > dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > > > > dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> --
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Yi Shen
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> --
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> Yi Shen
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
>
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回复: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP(Internet mail)
Posted by Huang Yixiu <hu...@hotmail.com>.
+1 with the list
Thanks
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发件人: zakwu(巫枫) <za...@tencent.com>
发送时间: 2020年8月17日 4:19
收件人: dev@echarts.apache.org <de...@echarts.apache.org>
主题: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP(Internet mail)
+1 with the list
Thanks
> 2020年8月17日 下午12:17，Junting Wang <wa...@gmail.com> 写道：
>
> +1
> I have no opinion on this list.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月17日周一 下午12:09写道：
>
>> @Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> @Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
>> @wusheng@apache.org <wu...@apache.org>
>>
>> Does our mentors have anything else to be discussed?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> *Ovilia*
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:59 AM Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 with the list
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:37 AM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> After removing Ted Liu and use the name in [1]
>>>> The proposed PMC member list is updated to be the following
>>>> 14 people:
>>>>
>>>> * Houjin Huang <da...@apache.org>
>>>> * Deqing Li <de...@apache.org>
>>>> * Dong Rui <er...@apache.org>
>>>> * Kener Linfeng <ke...@apache.org>
>>>> * Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
>>>> * Wenli Zhang <ov...@apache.org>
>>>> * Shen Yi <sh...@apache.org>
>>>> * Shuang Su <su...@apache.org>
>>>> * Siwen Su <su...@apache.org>
>>>> * Junting Wang <wa...@apache.org>
>>>> * Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org>
>>>> * Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>
>>>> * Sheng Wu <wu...@apache.org>
>>>> * Zak Wu <za...@apache.org>
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?podling=echarts
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 7:55 PM Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> FYI，Committers are still Committers of Echarts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Willem Jiang
>>>>>
>>>>> Twitter: willemjiang
>>>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:34 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The list you provided, should be the PMC list only :)
>>>>>> That is the graduation required. Because PMC takes the
>> reasonability
>>>> for
>>>>>> the ECharts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:32写道：
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The roaster shows 21 people:
>>>>>>> 4 mentors;
>>>>>>> 11 PPMC members if not counting mentors (you can count the list
>> of
>>>> PPMC
>>>>>>> (15));
>>>>>>> 6 committers if not counting mentors and PPMC members.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So 15 is the sum of mentors and PPMC members, and "Committers
>> (21)"
>>>> is
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> sum of mentors, PPMC members and non-PPMC committers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:26 PM Sheng Wu <
>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am still not following
>>>>>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts Roster shows 15
>>> PPMC
>>>>> + 4
>>>>>>>> mentors
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:22写道：
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Sheng,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry I didn't know mentors should be included. Of course we
>>> are
>>>>> more
>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>> willing
>>>>>>>>> to include mentors here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After adding mentors, the list has 21 members, which is the
>>> same
>>>> as
>>>>>>>> roaster
>>>>>>>>> committer
>>>>>>>>> number. The number 15 includes mentor but not committers so
>>> there
>>>>> is no
>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Updated list of members: (21 people)
>>>>>>>>> chfw@apache.org Jaska
>>>>>>>>> clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
>>>>>>>>> dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
>>>>>>>>> deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
>>>>>>>>> dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
>>>>>>>>> errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
>>>>>>>>> kener@apache.org Feng Lin
>>>>>>>>> kmcgrail@apache.org Kevin A. McGrail
>>>>>>>>> ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
>>>>>>>>> saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
>>>>>>>>> shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
>>>>>>>>> sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
>>>>>>>>> susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
>>>>>>>>> tedliu@apache.org Ted Liu
>>>>>>>>> wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
>>>>>>>>> wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
>>>>>>>>> wave@apache.org Dave Fisher
>>>>>>>>> wusheng@apache.org Sheng Wu
>>>>>>>>> yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
>>>>>>>>> yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
>>>>>>>>> zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:13 PM Sheng Wu <
>>>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:08写道：
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It seems I need to include the initial members and vice
>>>>> president
>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> vote email.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if
>>> we
>>>>> take
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>> initial
>>>>>>>>>>> PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects.
>>>>>>>>>>> And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC
>>>>> member
>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So the full list of initial members would be: (email in
>>>>>>> alphabetical
>>>>>>>>>> order)
>>>>>>>>>>> chfw@apache.org Jaska
>>>>>>>>>>> clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
>>>>>>>>>>> dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
>>>>>>>>>>> deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
>>>>>>>>>>> dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
>>>>>>>>>>> errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
>>>>>>>>>>> kener@apache.org Feng Lin
>>>>>>>>>>> saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
>>>>>>>>>>> shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
>>>>>>>>>>> sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
>>>>>>>>>>> susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
>>>>>>>>>>> ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
>>>>>>>>>>> wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
>>>>>>>>>>> wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
>>>>>>>>>>> yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
>>>>>>>>>>> yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
>>>>>>>>>>> zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Based on the roaster, you only have 15 PPMC member,
>>>>>>>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts, here is 17
>>>>> people.
>>>>>>>> Which
>>>>>>>>>> side is right?
>>>>>>>>>> And, traditionally, mentors should be asked whether to stay
>>> in
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> PMC,
>>>>>>>>>> default is yes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> More information on the vice president (chair of the
>>> project)
>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> [1]:
>>>>>>>>>>>> PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members,
>>>> with
>>>>> one
>>>>>>>> vote
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> project matters just like other PMC members. The primary
>>> duty
>>>>> of a
>>>>>>>> PMC
>>>>>>>>>>> chair is
>>>>>>>>>>> providing quarterly reports to the board about the health
>>> and
>>>>>>> status
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> their project.
>>>>>>>>>>> PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@
>> mailing
>>>>> list,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> aware of
>>>>>>>>>>> any board concerns about the project, and are responsible
>>> for
>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> the PMC
>>>>>>>>>>> as a whole to address any board concerns.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a
>>>>> volunteer.
>>>>>>>> During
>>>>>>>>>>> incubation,
>>>>>>>>>>> I have been helping the community to grow and push things
>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> been writing incubation report since then. I would like
>> to
>>>>> continue
>>>>>>>>>>> contributing
>>>>>>>>>>> and engaging other ones to get involved and help build
>>> Apache
>>>>>>>> ECharts a
>>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>>> community.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC
>>> Chairs
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>> welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can
>>> start
>>>>> our
>>>>>>>> vote
>>>>>>>>>>> soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
>>>>>>>>>>> [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <
>>>> oviliazhang@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if
>> no
>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> opposes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <
>>>>> oviliazhang@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and
>>>>> translated
>>>>>>>>> tools.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may
>> have
>>> a
>>>>>>> further
>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please check and comment if there's a problem
>> remaining.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1]
>>> in
>>>>>>>>> dev@echarts
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <
>>>>> oviliazhang@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us
>>> with
>>>>>>>>> graduation.
>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really appreciate it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist
>> is
>>>>> [2].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before
>> we
>>>>> start a
>>>>>>>>> vote.
>>>>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell us if you find something should be changed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <
>>>>>>> max@preset.io
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list
>> and
>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> introduce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself and offer some help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of
>> Apache
>>>>> Airflow
>>>>>>>> (top
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset
>>>>> community
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal
>> [SIP-50]
>>>>> Proposal
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECharts as our main charting library
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>,
>>>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward to collaborate!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help
>> ECharts'
>>>>>>> graduation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all
>> have
>>> a
>>>>>>>> checklist
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> items
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're looking for help/support?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <
>>>>>>> quillqian@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with softer way raising concern between
>> ASF
>>>>> official
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community, including:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Using different domain other than Apache hosting
>>>>> external
>>>>>>>>>> content
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out
>>>> something
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>> “this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie
>>>>> collecting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> announcement on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> websites.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - For customized build service on browser, keep
>> the
>>>>> service
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stated out builded version can not represent
>>> official
>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for re-distributing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I
>>> will
>>>>> use my
>>>>>>>>>>> nickname)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <
>>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 写道：
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
>>>>> 下午7:21写道：
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my side, this is not the difference. The
>>>>> download
>>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> package
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never been voted is my concern.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but
>>>>> whether
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unexpected files in the final download, we
>> don't
>>>>> know.
>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The whole vote/check process is for manual
>>>>> confirmation
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source release is 100% following the ASF
>>>>> requirements.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I get your point. An important reason
>> is
>>>> the
>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>> script
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the custom builder page is not been checked and
>>>>> voted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree to remove this page. But there are
>> still
>>>>> about
>>>>>>> 1.5k
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using this online tool everyday.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We should take it carefully to guide these
>>>>> developers to
>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in local.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think you could start a discussion in the
>>>>>>>> gerneral@incubator
>>>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution
>>>> than
>>>>>>>> removing
>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For that page, I think you could have a terminal
>>>>>>> simulation
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and guide users on how to use the local command
>> at
>>>>> least.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or provide a docker image, which including all
>>>>> necessary
>>>>>>>> env,
>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide one command. Docker image could make the
>>>>>>>>> pre-requirement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> env have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been installed correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
>>>>> 下午4:14写道：
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Sheng
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source
>> tar,
>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>> includes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So,
>>> only
>>>>> that
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> official
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we
>>> thought
>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> bringing
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> local
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CLI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the web.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In which developers can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list
>>>> which
>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the
>>>>> browser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a
>>>>> single js
>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess the main difference between this and
>>> the
>>>>> local
>>>>>>>> CLI
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processes are on the browser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that
>> may
>>>>> cause
>>>>>>>>>> potential
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> risks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my side, this is not the difference. The
>>>>> download
>>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> package
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never been voted is my concern.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but
>>>>> whether
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unexpected files in the final download, we
>> don't
>>>>> know.
>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The whole vote/check process is for manual
>>>>> confirmation
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source release is 100% following the ASF
>>>>> requirements.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
>>>>> 下午2:52写道：
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the
>>>>>>> navigator.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if there's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx
>>> but I
>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>> realize
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be
>>> added:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software
>>>> Foundation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works
>>>> from
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> community,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is
>>> currently
>>>>>>> hosted
>>>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Baidu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and we don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about removing the project from the
>>>>> navigator and
>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somewhere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community resource?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part
>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community/ecosystem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just
>>>> extend
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECharts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source
>>>>> release [2]
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download-theme page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our
>>>>> server. Is
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community
>>> so
>>>>> they
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> links
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GitHub projects.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we should put a more clear
>>> instruction
>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement
>> and
>>>>>>> catalogs
>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That includes, how and where to report the
>>>>>>> bug/security
>>>>>>>>>> issue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensions have issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion,
>> such
>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> enhancement,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iteration.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under
>> translation.
>>>> We
>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>> put a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translate" note because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have already found the people who wish
>> to
>>>>>>> translate
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done within a few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website
>> will
>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>> "(in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chinese)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> note
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check
>>>> whether
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> finish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the graduation discussion in the
>>>>> incubator? I
>>>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ease
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people's concern.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a
>>> release
>>>>> with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it
>>> is
>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic
>>> to
>>>>> get
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache SVN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be
>>>> downloaded?
>>>>> Does
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source
>>> tar,
>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>> includes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So,
>>> only
>>>>> that
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> official
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is
>>> OK.
>>>>> Or,
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local
>> tool
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> repackage
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
>>>>>>>>> https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A.
>>>> McGrail
>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but
>> I
>>> do
>>>>>>>> remember
>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is
>>> doing
>>>> is
>>>>>>>> testing
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policy:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website
>>> link
>>>>> check
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incubator,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You
>> could
>>>>> compare
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links
>> menu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary
>> Chinese.
>>>>> What is
>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins?
>> Who
>>>>> owns (s)
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repo?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension,
>>> what
>>>>> are
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> differences
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't
>> remember
>>>>> there
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> official
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about
>>>> these.
>>>>>>> Could
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clarify
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my
>>> understanding,
>>>>> they
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are
>>> Chinese
>>>>> only,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these
>>>> tools?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on
>>> the
>>>>>>> website
>>>>>>>>>>> download
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about
>> it
>>>>> breaks
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> ASF
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is
>>> not
>>>>>>> source,
>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> binary)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points,
>> seems
>>>> you
>>>>>>>> provide
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the
>>>>> unvoted
>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>>>>> tars
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF.
>> What
>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>> mentors
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
>>> 于2020年8月3日周一
>>>>>>>> 上午10:25写道：
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation
>>>> related
>>>>>>>>> documents
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be improved?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen
>> su <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> susiwen8@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It
>>>>> apply all
>>>>>>>>> rules
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful
>>> features.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC
>>> qualification,
>>>>>>> since I
>>>>>>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of
>> ECharts,
>>> Mr
>>>>> Lin
>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rui
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to
>> ECharts,
>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It
>> can't
>>>>> change
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> fact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so
>>> naming
>>>>> they
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> PMC
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via
>>>>> private
>>>>>>> mail
>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned,
>>> someone
>>>>> else
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "steal"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev
>> mail
>>>> list
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>> lots
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org>
>>>>>>> 于2020年7月30日周四
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 下午12:57写道：
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following
>> the
>>>>> guide of
>>>>>>>>>> podling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or
>>>>> password
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe.
>> Some
>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>> clients
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don’t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encrypt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may
>>> lead
>>>>> to a
>>>>>>>> leak
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it’s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission.
>> So
>>>> it’s
>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt
>>> the
>>>>> raw
>>>>>>>>>> password
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content
>> of
>>>> the
>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patterns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a
>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and
>> committers,
>>>> we
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> founder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so
>> essential
>>> to
>>>>>>> ECharts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he’s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project
>>>>> improve
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> develop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <
>>>>>>>>> oviliazhang@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has
>> learned
>>>> and
>>>>>>>> grown a
>>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a
>>>> discussion
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> whether
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully,
>>> after
>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly
>>> report.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has
>>> completed
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> vote
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> undergoing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and
>> joined
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more
>>> than
>>>> 6
>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> companies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active
>>> and
>>>>> we
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> 79
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subscribed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release
>>>> managers
>>>>>>> [3];
>>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the
>>>> project
>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incubation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [9]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is
>>>>> available
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> [5]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved
>> and
>>>> name
>>>>>>>>> searching
>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> completed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content,
>>> logo,
>>>>>>>> document,
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> according
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all
>>>>> requirements.
>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to
>> change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a
>>>>> sponsored
>>>>>>> CDN
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> China
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But
>>> we
>>>>> are
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we
>>> send
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> password
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> private
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the
>>> release
>>>>> guide
>>>>>>>> [4]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depends
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> password
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute
>>> it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with
>> the
>>>>> initial
>>>>>>>>> PPMCs
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We
>>> should
>>>>> decide
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither.
>>>>> Basically,
>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decided
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel
>> about
>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng
>>> https://github.com/kener
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui
>> https://github.com/erik168
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin
>>>>> https://github.com/chriswong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>> https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [8]
>>>>>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn
>> --since="20
>>>>> Jan,
>>>>>>>> 2018"`
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> master
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> branch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alias
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail -
>>>>> 703.798.0171
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>>>>>>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
>>>>>>>>>>> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yi Shen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yi Shen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
>>>>>>> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yi Shen
>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Junting Wang
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP(Internet mail)
Posted by Tianjiao Han <sa...@apache.org>.
+1 I agree with the list.
On 2020/08/17 04:19:11, zakwu(巫枫) <za...@tencent.com> wrote:
> +1 with the list
>
> Thanks
>
> > 2020年8月17日 下午12:17，Junting Wang <wa...@gmail.com> 写道：
> >
> > +1
> > I have no opinion on this list.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月17日周一 下午12:09写道：
> >
> >> @Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> @Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
> >> @wusheng@apache.org <wu...@apache.org>
> >>
> >> Does our mentors have anything else to be discussed?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> *Ovilia*
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:59 AM Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> +1 with the list
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:37 AM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> After removing Ted Liu and use the name in [1]
> >>>> The proposed PMC member list is updated to be the following
> >>>> 14 people:
> >>>>
> >>>> * Houjin Huang <da...@apache.org>
> >>>> * Deqing Li <de...@apache.org>
> >>>> * Dong Rui <er...@apache.org>
> >>>> * Kener Linfeng <ke...@apache.org>
> >>>> * Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
> >>>> * Wenli Zhang <ov...@apache.org>
> >>>> * Shen Yi <sh...@apache.org>
> >>>> * Shuang Su <su...@apache.org>
> >>>> * Siwen Su <su...@apache.org>
> >>>> * Junting Wang <wa...@apache.org>
> >>>> * Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org>
> >>>> * Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>
> >>>> * Sheng Wu <wu...@apache.org>
> >>>> * Zak Wu <za...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?podling=echarts
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> *Ovilia*
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 7:55 PM Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> FYI，Committers are still Committers of Echarts.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Willem Jiang
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Twitter: willemjiang
> >>>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:34 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The list you provided, should be the PMC list only :)
> >>>>>> That is the graduation required. Because PMC takes the
> >> reasonability
> >>>> for
> >>>>>> the ECharts.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:32写道：
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The roaster shows 21 people:
> >>>>>>> 4 mentors;
> >>>>>>> 11 PPMC members if not counting mentors (you can count the list
> >> of
> >>>> PPMC
> >>>>>>> (15));
> >>>>>>> 6 committers if not counting mentors and PPMC members.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So 15 is the sum of mentors and PPMC members, and "Committers
> >> (21)"
> >>>> is
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>> sum of mentors, PPMC members and non-PPMC committers.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:26 PM Sheng Wu <
> >>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I am still not following
> >>>>>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts Roster shows 15
> >>> PPMC
> >>>>> + 4
> >>>>>>>> mentors
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:22写道：
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Sheng,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sorry I didn't know mentors should be included. Of course we
> >>> are
> >>>>> more
> >>>>>>>> than
> >>>>>>>>> willing
> >>>>>>>>> to include mentors here.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> After adding mentors, the list has 21 members, which is the
> >>> same
> >>>> as
> >>>>>>>> roaster
> >>>>>>>>> committer
> >>>>>>>>> number. The number 15 includes mentor but not committers so
> >>> there
> >>>>> is no
> >>>>>>>>> problem
> >>>>>>>>> here.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Updated list of members: (21 people)
> >>>>>>>>> chfw@apache.org Jaska
> >>>>>>>>> clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> >>>>>>>>> dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> >>>>>>>>> deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> >>>>>>>>> dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> >>>>>>>>> errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> >>>>>>>>> kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> >>>>>>>>> kmcgrail@apache.org Kevin A. McGrail
> >>>>>>>>> ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> >>>>>>>>> saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> >>>>>>>>> shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> >>>>>>>>> sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> >>>>>>>>> susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> >>>>>>>>> tedliu@apache.org Ted Liu
> >>>>>>>>> wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> >>>>>>>>> wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> >>>>>>>>> wave@apache.org Dave Fisher
> >>>>>>>>> wusheng@apache.org Sheng Wu
> >>>>>>>>> yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> >>>>>>>>> yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> >>>>>>>>> zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:13 PM Sheng Wu <
> >>>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:08写道：
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> It seems I need to include the initial members and vice
> >>>>> president
> >>>>>>>> name
> >>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> vote email.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if
> >>> we
> >>>>> take
> >>>>>>> all
> >>>>>>>>>> those
> >>>>>>>>>>> initial
> >>>>>>>>>>> PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects.
> >>>>>>>>>>> And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC
> >>>>> member
> >>>>>>> list
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> So the full list of initial members would be: (email in
> >>>>>>> alphabetical
> >>>>>>>>>> order)
> >>>>>>>>>>> chfw@apache.org Jaska
> >>>>>>>>>>> clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> >>>>>>>>>>> dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> >>>>>>>>>>> deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> >>>>>>>>>>> dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> >>>>>>>>>>> errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> >>>>>>>>>>> kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> >>>>>>>>>>> saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> >>>>>>>>>>> shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> >>>>>>>>>>> sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> >>>>>>>>>>> susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> >>>>>>>>>>> ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> >>>>>>>>>>> wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> >>>>>>>>>>> wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> >>>>>>>>>>> yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> >>>>>>>>>>> yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> >>>>>>>>>>> zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Based on the roaster, you only have 15 PPMC member,
> >>>>>>>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts, here is 17
> >>>>> people.
> >>>>>>>> Which
> >>>>>>>>>> side is right?
> >>>>>>>>>> And, traditionally, mentors should be asked whether to stay
> >>> in
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>> PMC,
> >>>>>>>>>> default is yes.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> More information on the vice president (chair of the
> >>> project)
> >>>>> from
> >>>>>>>> [1]:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members,
> >>>> with
> >>>>> one
> >>>>>>>> vote
> >>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>> project matters just like other PMC members. The primary
> >>> duty
> >>>>> of a
> >>>>>>>> PMC
> >>>>>>>>>>> chair is
> >>>>>>>>>>> providing quarterly reports to the board about the health
> >>> and
> >>>>>>> status
> >>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>> their project.
> >>>>>>>>>>> PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@
> >> mailing
> >>>>> list,
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>> aware of
> >>>>>>>>>>> any board concerns about the project, and are responsible
> >>> for
> >>>>>>> working
> >>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>> the PMC
> >>>>>>>>>>> as a whole to address any board concerns.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a
> >>>>> volunteer.
> >>>>>>>> During
> >>>>>>>>>>> incubation,
> >>>>>>>>>>> I have been helping the community to grow and push things
> >>>>> forward.
> >>>>>>>> And
> >>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>> been writing incubation report since then. I would like
> >> to
> >>>>> continue
> >>>>>>>>>>> contributing
> >>>>>>>>>>> and engaging other ones to get involved and help build
> >>> Apache
> >>>>>>>> ECharts a
> >>>>>>>>>>> better
> >>>>>>>>>>> community.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC
> >>> Chairs
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>> welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can
> >>> start
> >>>>> our
> >>>>>>>> vote
> >>>>>>>>>>> soon.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> >>>>>>>>>>> [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <
> >>>> oviliazhang@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if
> >> no
> >>>> one
> >>>>>>>>> opposes.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <
> >>>>> oviliazhang@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and
> >>>>> translated
> >>>>>>>>> tools.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may
> >> have
> >>> a
> >>>>>>> further
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Please check and comment if there's a problem
> >> remaining.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1]
> >>> in
> >>>>>>>>> dev@echarts
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list soon.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <
> >>>>> oviliazhang@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us
> >>> with
> >>>>>>>>> graduation.
> >>>>>>>>>> We
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> really appreciate it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist
> >> is
> >>>>> [2].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before
> >> we
> >>>>> start a
> >>>>>>>>> vote.
> >>>>>>>>>> So
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> please
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell us if you find something should be changed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <
> >>>>>>> max@preset.io
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list
> >> and
> >>>>> wanted
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> introduce
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself and offer some help.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of
> >> Apache
> >>>>> Airflow
> >>>>>>>> (top
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset
> >>>>> community
> >>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal
> >> [SIP-50]
> >>>>> Proposal
> >>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>> using
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECharts as our main charting library
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>,
> >>>>>>>>>> looking
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward to collaborate!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help
> >> ECharts'
> >>>>>>> graduation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all
> >> have
> >>> a
> >>>>>>>> checklist
> >>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> items
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're looking for help/support?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <
> >>>>>>> quillqian@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with softer way raising concern between
> >> ASF
> >>>>> official
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community, including:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Using different domain other than Apache hosting
> >>>>> external
> >>>>>>>>>> content
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out
> >>>> something
> >>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>>>> “this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie
> >>>>> collecting
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> announcement on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> websites.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - For customized build service on browser, keep
> >> the
> >>>>> service
> >>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>> also
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stated out builded version can not represent
> >>> official
> >>>>>>> version
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for re-distributing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quill
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I
> >>> will
> >>>>> use my
> >>>>>>>>>>> nickname)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <
> >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 写道：
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> >>>>> 下午7:21写道：
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my side, this is not the difference. The
> >>>>> download
> >>>>>>>>> source
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> package
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never been voted is my concern.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but
> >>>>> whether
> >>>>>>>> there
> >>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unexpected files in the final download, we
> >> don't
> >>>>> know.
> >>>>>>> And
> >>>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The whole vote/check process is for manual
> >>>>> confirmation
> >>>>>>>>> about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source release is 100% following the ASF
> >>>>> requirements.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I get your point. An important reason
> >> is
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>> build
> >>>>>>>>>> script
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the custom builder page is not been checked and
> >>>>> voted.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree to remove this page. But there are
> >> still
> >>>>> about
> >>>>>>> 1.5k
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developers
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using this online tool everyday.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We should take it carefully to guide these
> >>>>> developers to
> >>>>>>>>> build
> >>>>>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in local.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think you could start a discussion in the
> >>>>>>>> gerneral@incubator
> >>>>>>>>> ,
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution
> >>>> than
> >>>>>>>> removing
> >>>>>>>>>> it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For that page, I think you could have a terminal
> >>>>>>> simulation
> >>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and guide users on how to use the local command
> >> at
> >>>>> least.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or provide a docker image, which including all
> >>>>> necessary
> >>>>>>>> env,
> >>>>>>>>>> then
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide one command. Docker image could make the
> >>>>>>>>> pre-requirement
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> env have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been installed correctly.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> >>>>> 下午4:14写道：
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Sheng
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source
> >> tar,
> >>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>>> includes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So,
> >>> only
> >>>>> that
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>> an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> official
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we
> >>> thought
> >>>> is
> >>>>>>>>> bringing
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> local
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CLI
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the web.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In which developers can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list
> >>>> which
> >>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>> been
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voted.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the
> >>>>> browser.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a
> >>>>> single js
> >>>>>>>> file
> >>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browser.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess the main difference between this and
> >>> the
> >>>>> local
> >>>>>>>> CLI
> >>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processes are on the browser.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that
> >> may
> >>>>> cause
> >>>>>>>>>> potential
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> risks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my side, this is not the difference. The
> >>>>> download
> >>>>>>>>> source
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> package
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never been voted is my concern.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but
> >>>>> whether
> >>>>>>>> there
> >>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unexpected files in the final download, we
> >> don't
> >>>>> know.
> >>>>>>> And
> >>>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The whole vote/check process is for manual
> >>>>> confirmation
> >>>>>>>>> about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source release is 100% following the ASF
> >>>>> requirements.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> >>>>> 下午2:52写道：
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the
> >>>>>>> navigator.
> >>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if there's a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx
> >>> but I
> >>>>>>> didn't
> >>>>>>>>>>> realize
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be
> >>> added:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software
> >>>> Foundation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works
> >>>> from
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> community,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is
> >>> currently
> >>>>>>> hosted
> >>>>>>>>> on a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Baidu
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and we don't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about removing the project from the
> >>>>> navigator and
> >>>>>>>>> list
> >>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somewhere
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community resource?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part
> >> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community/ecosystem.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just
> >>>> extend
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> Apache
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECharts.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source
> >>>>> release [2]
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download-theme page
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our
> >>>>> server. Is
> >>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community
> >>> so
> >>>>> they
> >>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>> links
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GitHub projects.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we should put a more clear
> >>> instruction
> >>>>> on the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement
> >> and
> >>>>>>> catalogs
> >>>>>>>>>> about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That includes, how and where to report the
> >>>>>>> bug/security
> >>>>>>>>>> issue
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensions have issues.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion,
> >> such
> >>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>> enhancement,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iteration.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under
> >> translation.
> >>>> We
> >>>>>>> didn't
> >>>>>>>>>> put a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "help
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translate" note because
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have already found the people who wish
> >> to
> >>>>>>> translate
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done within a few
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website
> >> will
> >>>>> have a
> >>>>>>>> "(in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chinese)"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> note
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the navigator.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check
> >>>> whether
> >>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>>>> could
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> finish
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the graduation discussion in the
> >>>>> incubator? I
> >>>>>>>> hope
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ease
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people's concern.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a
> >>> release
> >>>>> with
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> least
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it
> >>> is
> >>>>> not
> >>>>>>>> using
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voted.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic
> >>> to
> >>>>> get
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> source
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache SVN
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be
> >>>> downloaded?
> >>>>> Does
> >>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source
> >>> tar,
> >>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>>> includes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So,
> >>> only
> >>>>> that
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>> an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> official
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is
> >>> OK.
> >>>>> Or,
> >>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local
> >> tool
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> repackage
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> >>>>>>>>> https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A.
> >>>> McGrail
> >>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but
> >> I
> >>> do
> >>>>>>>> remember
> >>>>>>>>>>> there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is
> >>> doing
> >>>> is
> >>>>>>>> testing
> >>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policy:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website
> >>> link
> >>>>> check
> >>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incubator,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You
> >> could
> >>>>> compare
> >>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links
> >> menu.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary
> >> Chinese.
> >>>>> What is
> >>>>>>>>> that?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins?
> >> Who
> >>>>> owns (s)
> >>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repo?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension,
> >>> what
> >>>>> are
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> differences
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't
> >> remember
> >>>>> there
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>> any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> official
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about
> >>>> these.
> >>>>>>> Could
> >>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clarify
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my
> >>> understanding,
> >>>>> they
> >>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are
> >>> Chinese
> >>>>> only,
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> do
> >>>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these
> >>>> tools?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on
> >>> the
> >>>>>>> website
> >>>>>>>>>>> download
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about
> >> it
> >>>>> breaks
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> ASF
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is
> >>> not
> >>>>>>> source,
> >>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> binary)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points,
> >> seems
> >>>> you
> >>>>>>>> provide
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the
> >>>>> unvoted
> >>>>>>>> source
> >>>>>>>>>>> tars
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsure
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF.
> >> What
> >>>>> other
> >>>>>>>>> mentors
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> >>> 于2020年8月3日周一
> >>>>>>>> 上午10:25写道：
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation
> >>>> related
> >>>>>>>>> documents
> >>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be improved?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen
> >> su <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> susiwen8@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It
> >>>>> apply all
> >>>>>>>>> rules
> >>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful
> >>> features.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC
> >>> qualification,
> >>>>>>> since I
> >>>>>>>>>>> haven't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of
> >> ECharts,
> >>> Mr
> >>>>> Lin
> >>>>>>>>> Zhifeng
> >>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dong
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rui
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to
> >> ECharts,
> >>>>> even
> >>>>>>>>> thought
> >>>>>>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It
> >> can't
> >>>>> change
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> fact
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so
> >>> naming
> >>>>> they
> >>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>> PMC
> >>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via
> >>>>> private
> >>>>>>> mail
> >>>>>>>>>> list
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned,
> >>> someone
> >>>>> else
> >>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "steal"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev
> >> mail
> >>>> list
> >>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>>> lots
> >>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regard
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>> 于2020年7月30日周四
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 下午12:57写道：
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following
> >> the
> >>>>> guide of
> >>>>>>>>>> podling
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or
> >>>>> password
> >>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>> email
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe.
> >> Some
> >>>>> email
> >>>>>>>>> clients
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don’t
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encrypt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may
> >>> lead
> >>>>> to a
> >>>>>>>> leak
> >>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it’s
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission.
> >> So
> >>>> it’s
> >>>>>>>> better
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enable
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt
> >>> the
> >>>>> raw
> >>>>>>>>>> password
> >>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content
> >> of
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>> email
> >>>>>>>> by
> >>>>>>>>>>> some
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patterns
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a
> >>>>> mailing
> >>>>>>>> list
> >>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elsewhere.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and
> >> committers,
> >>>> we
> >>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>>>>> always
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> founder
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so
> >> essential
> >>> to
> >>>>>>> ECharts
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he’s
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project
> >>>>> improve
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> develop
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <
> >>>>>>>>> oviliazhang@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has
> >> learned
> >>>> and
> >>>>>>>> grown a
> >>>>>>>>>> lot
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a
> >>>> discussion
> >>>>>>> about
> >>>>>>>>>>> whether
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully,
> >>> after
> >>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly
> >>> report.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has
> >>> completed
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>> vote
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> undergoing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and
> >> joined
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> community
> >>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more
> >>> than
> >>>> 6
> >>>>>>>>> different
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> companies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active
> >>> and
> >>>>> we
> >>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>> 79
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subscribed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release
> >>>> managers
> >>>>>>> [3];
> >>>>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guide
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the
> >>>> project
> >>>>>>>> during
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incubation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [9]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is
> >>>>> available
> >>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>> [5]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved
> >> and
> >>>> name
> >>>>>>>>> searching
> >>>>>>>>>>> has
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> completed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content,
> >>> logo,
> >>>>>>>> document,
> >>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> according
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all
> >>>>> requirements.
> >>>>>>>> You
> >>>>>>>>>> may
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to
> >> change.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a
> >>>>> sponsored
> >>>>>>> CDN
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improve
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> China
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But
> >>> we
> >>>>> are
> >>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>> sure
> >>>>>>>>>>> how
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we
> >>> send
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> password
> >>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> private
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the
> >>> release
> >>>>> guide
> >>>>>>>> [4]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depends
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> password
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute
> >>> it?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with
> >> the
> >>>>> initial
> >>>>>>>>> PPMCs
> >>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We
> >>> should
> >>>>> decide
> >>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>> each
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wish
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to make
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither.
> >>>>> Basically,
> >>>>>>>> it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decided
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel
> >> about
> >>>>> this.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng
> >>> https://github.com/kener
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui
> >> https://github.com/erik168
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin
> >>>>> https://github.com/chriswong
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>> https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [8]
> >>>>>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn
> >> --since="20
> >>>>> Jan,
> >>>>>>>> 2018"`
> >>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> master
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> branch
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alias
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail -
> >>>>> 703.798.0171
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> >>>>>>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> >>>>>>>>>>> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yi Shen
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yi Shen
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> >>>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> >>>>>>> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Yi Shen
> >>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Junting Wang
>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP(Internet
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Posted by "zakwu (巫枫)" <za...@tencent.com>.
+1 with the list
Thanks
> 2020年8月17日 下午12:17，Junting Wang <wa...@gmail.com> 写道：
>
> +1
> I have no opinion on this list.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月17日周一 下午12:09写道：
>
>> @Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> @Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
>> @wusheng@apache.org <wu...@apache.org>
>>
>> Does our mentors have anything else to be discussed?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> *Ovilia*
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:59 AM Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 with the list
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:37 AM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> After removing Ted Liu and use the name in [1]
>>>> The proposed PMC member list is updated to be the following
>>>> 14 people:
>>>>
>>>> * Houjin Huang <da...@apache.org>
>>>> * Deqing Li <de...@apache.org>
>>>> * Dong Rui <er...@apache.org>
>>>> * Kener Linfeng <ke...@apache.org>
>>>> * Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
>>>> * Wenli Zhang <ov...@apache.org>
>>>> * Shen Yi <sh...@apache.org>
>>>> * Shuang Su <su...@apache.org>
>>>> * Siwen Su <su...@apache.org>
>>>> * Junting Wang <wa...@apache.org>
>>>> * Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org>
>>>> * Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>
>>>> * Sheng Wu <wu...@apache.org>
>>>> * Zak Wu <za...@apache.org>
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?podling=echarts
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 7:55 PM Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> FYI，Committers are still Committers of Echarts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Willem Jiang
>>>>>
>>>>> Twitter: willemjiang
>>>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:34 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The list you provided, should be the PMC list only :)
>>>>>> That is the graduation required. Because PMC takes the
>> reasonability
>>>> for
>>>>>> the ECharts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:32写道：
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The roaster shows 21 people:
>>>>>>> 4 mentors;
>>>>>>> 11 PPMC members if not counting mentors (you can count the list
>> of
>>>> PPMC
>>>>>>> (15));
>>>>>>> 6 committers if not counting mentors and PPMC members.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So 15 is the sum of mentors and PPMC members, and "Committers
>> (21)"
>>>> is
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> sum of mentors, PPMC members and non-PPMC committers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:26 PM Sheng Wu <
>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am still not following
>>>>>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts Roster shows 15
>>> PPMC
>>>>> + 4
>>>>>>>> mentors
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:22写道：
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Sheng,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry I didn't know mentors should be included. Of course we
>>> are
>>>>> more
>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>> willing
>>>>>>>>> to include mentors here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After adding mentors, the list has 21 members, which is the
>>> same
>>>> as
>>>>>>>> roaster
>>>>>>>>> committer
>>>>>>>>> number. The number 15 includes mentor but not committers so
>>> there
>>>>> is no
>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Updated list of members: (21 people)
>>>>>>>>> chfw@apache.org Jaska
>>>>>>>>> clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
>>>>>>>>> dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
>>>>>>>>> deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
>>>>>>>>> dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
>>>>>>>>> errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
>>>>>>>>> kener@apache.org Feng Lin
>>>>>>>>> kmcgrail@apache.org Kevin A. McGrail
>>>>>>>>> ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
>>>>>>>>> saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
>>>>>>>>> shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
>>>>>>>>> sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
>>>>>>>>> susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
>>>>>>>>> tedliu@apache.org Ted Liu
>>>>>>>>> wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
>>>>>>>>> wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
>>>>>>>>> wave@apache.org Dave Fisher
>>>>>>>>> wusheng@apache.org Sheng Wu
>>>>>>>>> yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
>>>>>>>>> yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
>>>>>>>>> zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:13 PM Sheng Wu <
>>>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:08写道：
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It seems I need to include the initial members and vice
>>>>> president
>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> vote email.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if
>>> we
>>>>> take
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>> initial
>>>>>>>>>>> PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects.
>>>>>>>>>>> And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC
>>>>> member
>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So the full list of initial members would be: (email in
>>>>>>> alphabetical
>>>>>>>>>> order)
>>>>>>>>>>> chfw@apache.org Jaska
>>>>>>>>>>> clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
>>>>>>>>>>> dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
>>>>>>>>>>> deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
>>>>>>>>>>> dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
>>>>>>>>>>> errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
>>>>>>>>>>> kener@apache.org Feng Lin
>>>>>>>>>>> saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
>>>>>>>>>>> shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
>>>>>>>>>>> sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
>>>>>>>>>>> susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
>>>>>>>>>>> ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
>>>>>>>>>>> wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
>>>>>>>>>>> wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
>>>>>>>>>>> yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
>>>>>>>>>>> yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
>>>>>>>>>>> zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Based on the roaster, you only have 15 PPMC member,
>>>>>>>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts, here is 17
>>>>> people.
>>>>>>>> Which
>>>>>>>>>> side is right?
>>>>>>>>>> And, traditionally, mentors should be asked whether to stay
>>> in
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> PMC,
>>>>>>>>>> default is yes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> More information on the vice president (chair of the
>>> project)
>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> [1]:
>>>>>>>>>>>> PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members,
>>>> with
>>>>> one
>>>>>>>> vote
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> project matters just like other PMC members. The primary
>>> duty
>>>>> of a
>>>>>>>> PMC
>>>>>>>>>>> chair is
>>>>>>>>>>> providing quarterly reports to the board about the health
>>> and
>>>>>>> status
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> their project.
>>>>>>>>>>> PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@
>> mailing
>>>>> list,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> aware of
>>>>>>>>>>> any board concerns about the project, and are responsible
>>> for
>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> the PMC
>>>>>>>>>>> as a whole to address any board concerns.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a
>>>>> volunteer.
>>>>>>>> During
>>>>>>>>>>> incubation,
>>>>>>>>>>> I have been helping the community to grow and push things
>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> been writing incubation report since then. I would like
>> to
>>>>> continue
>>>>>>>>>>> contributing
>>>>>>>>>>> and engaging other ones to get involved and help build
>>> Apache
>>>>>>>> ECharts a
>>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>>> community.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC
>>> Chairs
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>> welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can
>>> start
>>>>> our
>>>>>>>> vote
>>>>>>>>>>> soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
>>>>>>>>>>> [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <
>>>> oviliazhang@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if
>> no
>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> opposes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <
>>>>> oviliazhang@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and
>>>>> translated
>>>>>>>>> tools.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may
>> have
>>> a
>>>>>>> further
>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please check and comment if there's a problem
>> remaining.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1]
>>> in
>>>>>>>>> dev@echarts
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <
>>>>> oviliazhang@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us
>>> with
>>>>>>>>> graduation.
>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really appreciate it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist
>> is
>>>>> [2].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before
>> we
>>>>> start a
>>>>>>>>> vote.
>>>>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell us if you find something should be changed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <
>>>>>>> max@preset.io
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list
>> and
>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> introduce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself and offer some help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of
>> Apache
>>>>> Airflow
>>>>>>>> (top
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset
>>>>> community
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal
>> [SIP-50]
>>>>> Proposal
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECharts as our main charting library
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>,
>>>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward to collaborate!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help
>> ECharts'
>>>>>>> graduation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all
>> have
>>> a
>>>>>>>> checklist
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> items
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're looking for help/support?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <
>>>>>>> quillqian@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with softer way raising concern between
>> ASF
>>>>> official
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community, including:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Using different domain other than Apache hosting
>>>>> external
>>>>>>>>>> content
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out
>>>> something
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>> “this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie
>>>>> collecting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> announcement on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> websites.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - For customized build service on browser, keep
>> the
>>>>> service
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stated out builded version can not represent
>>> official
>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for re-distributing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I
>>> will
>>>>> use my
>>>>>>>>>>> nickname)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <
>>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 写道：
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
>>>>> 下午7:21写道：
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my side, this is not the difference. The
>>>>> download
>>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> package
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never been voted is my concern.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but
>>>>> whether
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unexpected files in the final download, we
>> don't
>>>>> know.
>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The whole vote/check process is for manual
>>>>> confirmation
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source release is 100% following the ASF
>>>>> requirements.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I get your point. An important reason
>> is
>>>> the
>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>> script
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the custom builder page is not been checked and
>>>>> voted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree to remove this page. But there are
>> still
>>>>> about
>>>>>>> 1.5k
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using this online tool everyday.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We should take it carefully to guide these
>>>>> developers to
>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in local.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think you could start a discussion in the
>>>>>>>> gerneral@incubator
>>>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution
>>>> than
>>>>>>>> removing
>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For that page, I think you could have a terminal
>>>>>>> simulation
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and guide users on how to use the local command
>> at
>>>>> least.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or provide a docker image, which including all
>>>>> necessary
>>>>>>>> env,
>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide one command. Docker image could make the
>>>>>>>>> pre-requirement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> env have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been installed correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
>>>>> 下午4:14写道：
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Sheng
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source
>> tar,
>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>> includes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So,
>>> only
>>>>> that
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> official
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we
>>> thought
>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> bringing
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> local
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CLI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the web.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In which developers can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list
>>>> which
>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the
>>>>> browser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a
>>>>> single js
>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess the main difference between this and
>>> the
>>>>> local
>>>>>>>> CLI
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processes are on the browser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that
>> may
>>>>> cause
>>>>>>>>>> potential
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> risks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my side, this is not the difference. The
>>>>> download
>>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> package
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never been voted is my concern.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but
>>>>> whether
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unexpected files in the final download, we
>> don't
>>>>> know.
>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The whole vote/check process is for manual
>>>>> confirmation
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source release is 100% following the ASF
>>>>> requirements.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
>>>>> 下午2:52写道：
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the
>>>>>>> navigator.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if there's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx
>>> but I
>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>> realize
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be
>>> added:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software
>>>> Foundation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works
>>>> from
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> community,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is
>>> currently
>>>>>>> hosted
>>>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Baidu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and we don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about removing the project from the
>>>>> navigator and
>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somewhere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community resource?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part
>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community/ecosystem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just
>>>> extend
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECharts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source
>>>>> release [2]
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download-theme page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our
>>>>> server. Is
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community
>>> so
>>>>> they
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> links
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GitHub projects.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we should put a more clear
>>> instruction
>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement
>> and
>>>>>>> catalogs
>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That includes, how and where to report the
>>>>>>> bug/security
>>>>>>>>>> issue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensions have issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion,
>> such
>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> enhancement,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iteration.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under
>> translation.
>>>> We
>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>> put a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translate" note because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have already found the people who wish
>> to
>>>>>>> translate
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done within a few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website
>> will
>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>> "(in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chinese)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> note
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check
>>>> whether
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> finish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the graduation discussion in the
>>>>> incubator? I
>>>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ease
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people's concern.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a
>>> release
>>>>> with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it
>>> is
>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic
>>> to
>>>>> get
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache SVN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be
>>>> downloaded?
>>>>> Does
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source
>>> tar,
>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>> includes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So,
>>> only
>>>>> that
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> official
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is
>>> OK.
>>>>> Or,
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local
>> tool
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> repackage
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
>>>>>>>>> https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A.
>>>> McGrail
>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but
>> I
>>> do
>>>>>>>> remember
>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is
>>> doing
>>>> is
>>>>>>>> testing
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policy:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website
>>> link
>>>>> check
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incubator,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You
>> could
>>>>> compare
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links
>> menu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary
>> Chinese.
>>>>> What is
>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins?
>> Who
>>>>> owns (s)
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repo?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension,
>>> what
>>>>> are
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> differences
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't
>> remember
>>>>> there
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> official
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about
>>>> these.
>>>>>>> Could
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clarify
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my
>>> understanding,
>>>>> they
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are
>>> Chinese
>>>>> only,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these
>>>> tools?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on
>>> the
>>>>>>> website
>>>>>>>>>>> download
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about
>> it
>>>>> breaks
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> ASF
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is
>>> not
>>>>>>> source,
>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> binary)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points,
>> seems
>>>> you
>>>>>>>> provide
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the
>>>>> unvoted
>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>>>>> tars
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF.
>> What
>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>> mentors
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
>>> 于2020年8月3日周一
>>>>>>>> 上午10:25写道：
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation
>>>> related
>>>>>>>>> documents
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be improved?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen
>> su <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> susiwen8@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It
>>>>> apply all
>>>>>>>>> rules
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful
>>> features.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC
>>> qualification,
>>>>>>> since I
>>>>>>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of
>> ECharts,
>>> Mr
>>>>> Lin
>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rui
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to
>> ECharts,
>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It
>> can't
>>>>> change
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> fact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so
>>> naming
>>>>> they
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> PMC
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via
>>>>> private
>>>>>>> mail
>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned,
>>> someone
>>>>> else
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "steal"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev
>> mail
>>>> list
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>> lots
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org>
>>>>>>> 于2020年7月30日周四
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 下午12:57写道：
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following
>> the
>>>>> guide of
>>>>>>>>>> podling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or
>>>>> password
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe.
>> Some
>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>> clients
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don’t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encrypt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may
>>> lead
>>>>> to a
>>>>>>>> leak
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it’s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission.
>> So
>>>> it’s
>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt
>>> the
>>>>> raw
>>>>>>>>>> password
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content
>> of
>>>> the
>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patterns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a
>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and
>> committers,
>>>> we
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> founder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so
>> essential
>>> to
>>>>>>> ECharts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he’s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project
>>>>> improve
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> develop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <
>>>>>>>>> oviliazhang@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has
>> learned
>>>> and
>>>>>>>> grown a
>>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a
>>>> discussion
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> whether
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully,
>>> after
>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly
>>> report.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has
>>> completed
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> vote
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> undergoing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and
>> joined
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more
>>> than
>>>> 6
>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> companies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active
>>> and
>>>>> we
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> 79
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subscribed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release
>>>> managers
>>>>>>> [3];
>>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the
>>>> project
>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incubation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [9]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is
>>>>> available
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> [5]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved
>> and
>>>> name
>>>>>>>>> searching
>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> completed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content,
>>> logo,
>>>>>>>> document,
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> according
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all
>>>>> requirements.
>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to
>> change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a
>>>>> sponsored
>>>>>>> CDN
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> China
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But
>>> we
>>>>> are
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we
>>> send
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> password
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> private
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the
>>> release
>>>>> guide
>>>>>>>> [4]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depends
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> password
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute
>>> it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with
>> the
>>>>> initial
>>>>>>>>> PPMCs
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We
>>> should
>>>>> decide
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither.
>>>>> Basically,
>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decided
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel
>> about
>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng
>>> https://github.com/kener
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui
>> https://github.com/erik168
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin
>>>>> https://github.com/chriswong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>> https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [8]
>>>>>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn
>> --since="20
>>>>> Jan,
>>>>>>>> 2018"`
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> master
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> branch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alias
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail -
>>>>> 703.798.0171
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>>>>>>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
>>>>>>>>>>> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yi Shen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yi Shen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
>>>>>>> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yi Shen
>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Junting Wang
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Junting Wang <wa...@gmail.com>.
+1
I have no opinion on this list.
Thanks.
Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月17日周一 下午12:09写道：
> @Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> @Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
> @wusheng@apache.org <wu...@apache.org>
>
> Does our mentors have anything else to be discussed?
>
> Thanks
>
> *Ovilia*
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:59 AM Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > +1 with the list
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:37 AM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > After removing Ted Liu and use the name in [1]
> > > The proposed PMC member list is updated to be the following
> > > 14 people:
> > >
> > > * Houjin Huang <da...@apache.org>
> > > * Deqing Li <de...@apache.org>
> > > * Dong Rui <er...@apache.org>
> > > * Kener Linfeng <ke...@apache.org>
> > > * Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
> > > * Wenli Zhang <ov...@apache.org>
> > > * Shen Yi <sh...@apache.org>
> > > * Shuang Su <su...@apache.org>
> > > * Siwen Su <su...@apache.org>
> > > * Junting Wang <wa...@apache.org>
> > > * Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org>
> > > * Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>
> > > * Sheng Wu <wu...@apache.org>
> > > * Zak Wu <za...@apache.org>
> > >
> > > [1] http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?podling=echarts
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > *Ovilia*
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 7:55 PM Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > FYI，Committers are still Committers of Echarts.
> > > >
> > > > Willem Jiang
> > > >
> > > > Twitter: willemjiang
> > > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:34 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The list you provided, should be the PMC list only :)
> > > > > That is the graduation required. Because PMC takes the
> reasonability
> > > for
> > > > > the ECharts.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:32写道：
> > > > >
> > > > > > The roaster shows 21 people:
> > > > > > 4 mentors;
> > > > > > 11 PPMC members if not counting mentors (you can count the list
> of
> > > PPMC
> > > > > > (15));
> > > > > > 6 committers if not counting mentors and PPMC members.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So 15 is the sum of mentors and PPMC members, and "Committers
> (21)"
> > > is
> > > > the
> > > > > > sum of mentors, PPMC members and non-PPMC committers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:26 PM Sheng Wu <
> > wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am still not following
> > > > > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts Roster shows 15
> > PPMC
> > > > + 4
> > > > > > > mentors
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:22写道：
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Sheng,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sorry I didn't know mentors should be included. Of course we
> > are
> > > > more
> > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > willing
> > > > > > > > to include mentors here.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > After adding mentors, the list has 21 members, which is the
> > same
> > > as
> > > > > > > roaster
> > > > > > > > committer
> > > > > > > > number. The number 15 includes mentor but not committers so
> > there
> > > > is no
> > > > > > > > problem
> > > > > > > > here.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Updated list of members: (21 people)
> > > > > > > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > > > > > > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > > > > > > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > > > > > > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > > > > > > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > > > > > > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > > > > > > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > > > > > > > kmcgrail@apache.org Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > > > > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > > > > > > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > > > > > > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > > > > > > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > > > > > > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > > > > > > > tedliu@apache.org Ted Liu
> > > > > > > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > > > > > > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > > > > > > > wave@apache.org Dave Fisher
> > > > > > > > wusheng@apache.org Sheng Wu
> > > > > > > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > > > > > > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > > > > > > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:13 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > > wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:08写道：
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It seems I need to include the initial members and vice
> > > > president
> > > > > > > name
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > vote email.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if
> > we
> > > > take
> > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > those
> > > > > > > > > > initial
> > > > > > > > > > PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects.
> > > > > > > > > > And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC
> > > > member
> > > > > > list
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So the full list of initial members would be: (email in
> > > > > > alphabetical
> > > > > > > > > order)
> > > > > > > > > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > > > > > > > > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > > > > > > > > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > > > > > > > > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > > > > > > > > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > > > > > > > > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > > > > > > > > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > > > > > > > > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > > > > > > > > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > > > > > > > > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > > > > > > > > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > > > > > > > > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > > > > > > > > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > > > > > > > > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > > > > > > > > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > > > > > > > > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > > > > > > > > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Based on the roaster, you only have 15 PPMC member,
> > > > > > > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts, here is 17
> > > > people.
> > > > > > > Which
> > > > > > > > > side is right?
> > > > > > > > > And, traditionally, mentors should be asked whether to stay
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > PMC,
> > > > > > > > > default is yes.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > More information on the vice president (chair of the
> > project)
> > > > from
> > > > > > > [1]:
> > > > > > > > > > > PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members,
> > > with
> > > > one
> > > > > > > vote
> > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > project matters just like other PMC members. The primary
> > duty
> > > > of a
> > > > > > > PMC
> > > > > > > > > > chair is
> > > > > > > > > > providing quarterly reports to the board about the health
> > and
> > > > > > status
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > their project.
> > > > > > > > > > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@
> mailing
> > > > list,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > aware of
> > > > > > > > > > any board concerns about the project, and are responsible
> > for
> > > > > > working
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > the PMC
> > > > > > > > > > as a whole to address any board concerns.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a
> > > > volunteer.
> > > > > > > During
> > > > > > > > > > incubation,
> > > > > > > > > > I have been helping the community to grow and push things
> > > > forward.
> > > > > > > And
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > been writing incubation report since then. I would like
> to
> > > > continue
> > > > > > > > > > contributing
> > > > > > > > > > and engaging other ones to get involved and help build
> > Apache
> > > > > > > ECharts a
> > > > > > > > > > better
> > > > > > > > > > community.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > +1
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC
> > Chairs
> > > > and
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can
> > start
> > > > our
> > > > > > > vote
> > > > > > > > > > soon.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > [1]
> > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> > > > > > > > > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <
> > > oviliazhang@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if
> no
> > > one
> > > > > > > > opposes.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <
> > > > oviliazhang@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and
> > > > translated
> > > > > > > > tools.
> > > > > > > > > > >> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may
> have
> > a
> > > > > > further
> > > > > > > > > > >> discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Please check and comment if there's a problem
> remaining.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1]
> > in
> > > > > > > > dev@echarts
> > > > > > > > > > >> mailing list soon.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> [1]
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <
> > > > oviliazhang@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us
> > with
> > > > > > > > graduation.
> > > > > > > > > We
> > > > > > > > > > >>> really appreciate it.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist
> is
> > > > [2].
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before
> we
> > > > start a
> > > > > > > > vote.
> > > > > > > > > So
> > > > > > > > > > >>> please
> > > > > > > > > > >>> tell us if you find something should be changed.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> [1]
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > > > > > > > >>> [2]
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <
> > > > > > max@preset.io
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list
> and
> > > > wanted
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> introduce
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> myself and offer some help.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of
> Apache
> > > > Airflow
> > > > > > > (top
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> level)
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset
> > > > community
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> currently
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal
> [SIP-50]
> > > > Proposal
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> ECharts as our main charting library
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> <
> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>,
> > > > > > > > > looking
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> forward to collaborate!
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> <
> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help
> ECharts'
> > > > > > graduation
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> process as
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all
> have
> > a
> > > > > > > checklist
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> items
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> you're looking for help/support?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Max
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <
> > > > > > quillqian@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > I agree with softer way raising concern between
> ASF
> > > > official
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > community, including:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting
> > > > external
> > > > > > > > > content
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out
> > > something
> > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > > “this
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> is not
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie
> > > > collecting
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> announcement on
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > websites.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > - For customized build service on browser, keep
> the
> > > > service
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > stated out builded version can not represent
> > official
> > > > > > version
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> is not
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > for re-distributing.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Quill
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I
> > will
> > > > use my
> > > > > > > > > > nickname)
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <
> > > wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > 写道：
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> > > > 下午7:21写道：
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The
> > > > download
> > > > > > > > source
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> package
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > is
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but
> > > > whether
> > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > change
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> or
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we
> don't
> > > > know.
> > > > > > And
> > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> would
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual
> > > > confirmation
> > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> that, the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF
> > > > requirements.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason
> is
> > > the
> > > > > > build
> > > > > > > > > script
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> used
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > on
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and
> > > > voted.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are
> still
> > > > about
> > > > > > 1.5k
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> developers
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> using this online tool everyday.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these
> > > > developers to
> > > > > > > > build
> > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > source
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> in local.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I think you could start a discussion in the
> > > > > > > gerneral@incubator
> > > > > > > > ,
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> check
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution
> > > than
> > > > > > > removing
> > > > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal
> > > > > > simulation
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> page,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > and guide users on how to use the local command
> at
> > > > least.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all
> > > > necessary
> > > > > > > env,
> > > > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> you
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > just
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the
> > > > > > > > pre-requirement
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> env have
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > been installed correctly.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> > > > 下午4:14写道：
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Hi, Sheng
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source
> tar,
> > > > which
> > > > > > > > > includes
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> all
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So,
> > only
> > > > that
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> official
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we
> > thought
> > > is
> > > > > > > > bringing
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> local
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> CLI
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> to the web.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> In which developers can
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list
> > > which
> > > > have
> > > > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> voted.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the
> > > > browser.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a
> > > > single js
> > > > > > > file
> > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> browser.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and
> > the
> > > > local
> > > > > > > CLI
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> all the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> processes are on the browser.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that
> may
> > > > cause
> > > > > > > > > potential
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> risks
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> in
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> it.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The
> > > > download
> > > > > > > > source
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> package
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > is
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but
> > > > whether
> > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > change
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> or
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we
> don't
> > > > know.
> > > > > > And
> > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> would
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual
> > > > confirmation
> > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> that, the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF
> > > > requirements.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Regards.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> > > > 下午2:52写道：
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the
> > > > > > navigator.
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> thought it
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> meant
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> if there's a
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx
> > but I
> > > > > > didn't
> > > > > > > > > > realize
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> means
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> link is
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be
> > added:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software
> > > Foundation.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works
> > > from
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > community,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> something
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> similar
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is
> > currently
> > > > > > hosted
> > > > > > > > on a
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Baidu
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> server
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and we don't
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the
> > > > navigator and
> > > > > > > > list
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> somewhere
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> as
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> a
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> community resource?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part
> of
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> community/ecosystem.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> And
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> not
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just
> > > extend
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > Apache
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> ECharts.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source
> > > > release [2]
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> current
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-theme page
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our
> > > > server. Is
> > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> problem?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community
> > so
> > > > they
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > links
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> related
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> GitHub projects.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear
> > instruction
> > > > on the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement
> and
> > > > > > catalogs
> > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> links
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 3rd
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the
> > > > > > bug/security
> > > > > > > > > issue
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> when
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> those
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> extensions have issues.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion,
> such
> > > as
> > > > > > > > > enhancement,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> iteration.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under
> translation.
> > > We
> > > > > > didn't
> > > > > > > > > put a
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> "help
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> translate" note because
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish
> to
> > > > > > translate
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> should
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> be
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> done within a few
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website
> will
> > > > have a
> > > > > > > "(in
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Chinese)"
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> note
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> in
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the navigator.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check
> > > whether
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> finish
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> those
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the
> > > > incubator? I
> > > > > > > hope
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> ease
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> other
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> people's concern.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a
> > release
> > > > with
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > least
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> source
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> files
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> required.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it
> > is
> > > > not
> > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> source
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> files
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> voted.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic
> > to
> > > > get
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > source
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> file
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> from
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Apache SVN
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be
> > > downloaded?
> > > > Does
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> seem to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> for
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> you?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source
> > tar,
> > > > which
> > > > > > > > > includes
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> all
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So,
> > only
> > > > that
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> official
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is
> > OK.
> > > > Or,
> > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> prefer
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local
> tool
> > > to
> > > > > > > > repackage
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> source
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> code?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [2]
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [3]
> > > > > > > > https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A.
> > > McGrail
> > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but
> I
> > do
> > > > > > > remember
> > > > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> was
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is
> > doing
> > > is
> > > > > > > testing
> > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> this
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> policy:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website
> > link
> > > > check
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> incubator,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> does
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You
> could
> > > > compare
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links
> menu.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary
> Chinese.
> > > > What is
> > > > > > > > that?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> From
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> my
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> reading,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins?
> Who
> > > > owns (s)
> > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> repo?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension,
> > what
> > > > are
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> differences
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> between
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't
> remember
> > > > there
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > any
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> official
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> release
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about
> > > these.
> > > > > > Could
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> clarify
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> what
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> they
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> are?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my
> > understanding,
> > > > they
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> configuration
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are
> > Chinese
> > > > only,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> have
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> open
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these
> > > tools?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on
> > the
> > > > > > website
> > > > > > > > > > download
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> page,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> how
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about
> it
> > > > breaks
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > ASF
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> release
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> process.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is
> > not
> > > > > > source,
> > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> binary)
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> is
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> never
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points,
> seems
> > > you
> > > > > > > provide
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> users
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> get a
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the
> > > > unvoted
> > > > > > > source
> > > > > > > > > > tars
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> make
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> me
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> unsure
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF.
> What
> > > > other
> > > > > > > > mentors
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> think?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> > 于2020年8月3日周一
> > > > > > > 上午10:25写道：
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation
> > > related
> > > > > > > > documents
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> see
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> if
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> there is
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> something
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen
> su <
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> susiwen8@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It
> > > > apply all
> > > > > > > > rules
> > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> most
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful
> > features.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC
> > qualification,
> > > > > > since I
> > > > > > > > > > haven't
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> with
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> them,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of
> ECharts,
> > Mr
> > > > Lin
> > > > > > > > Zhifeng
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> Mr
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Dong
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Rui
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> had
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to
> ECharts,
> > > > even
> > > > > > > > thought
> > > > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> haven't
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It
> can't
> > > > change
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > fact
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> that
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> they
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> have
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so
> > naming
> > > > they
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > PMC
> > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> future
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> would
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via
> > > > private
> > > > > > mail
> > > > > > > > > list
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> wasn't a
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> great
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned,
> > someone
> > > > else
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> "steal"
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> it,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev
> mail
> > > list
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > lots
> > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> people
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> how
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org>
> > > > > > 于2020年7月30日周四
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> 下午12:57写道：
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following
> the
> > > > guide of
> > > > > > > > > podling
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> website
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> and
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or
> > > > password
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > email
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> without
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> any
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe.
> Some
> > > > email
> > > > > > > > clients
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> don’t
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> encrypt
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may
> > lead
> > > > to a
> > > > > > > leak
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> content
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> if
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it’s
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission.
> So
> > > it’s
> > > > > > > better
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> enable
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> email
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt
> > the
> > > > raw
> > > > > > > > > password
> > > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> any
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> other
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > email
> > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> advanced
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a
> > > > mailing
> > > > > > > list
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> elsewhere.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and
> committers,
> > > we
> > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > > always
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> keep
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> founder
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so
> essential
> > to
> > > > > > ECharts
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> project.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> As I
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project
> > > > improve
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > develop
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> by
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> his
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <
> > > > > > > > oviliazhang@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has
> learned
> > > and
> > > > > > > grown a
> > > > > > > > > lot
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> since
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> our
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a
> > > discussion
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > whether
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> are
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> ready
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully,
> > after
> > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> discussion,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> can
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> set
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly
> > report.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has
> > completed
> > > > the
> > > > > > vote
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> undergoing
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and
> joined
> > > the
> > > > > > > > community
> > > > > > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> and
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> now
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more
> > than
> > > 6
> > > > > > > > different
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> companies.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active
> > and
> > > > we
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > 79
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> people
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release
> > > managers
> > > > > > [3];
> > > > > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> guide
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> is
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> at
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the
> > > project
> > > > > > > during
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> incubation
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> [9]
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is
> > > > available
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > [5]
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved
> and
> > > name
> > > > > > > > searching
> > > > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> been
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> completed
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content,
> > logo,
> > > > > > > document,
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> so
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> on
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> according
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all
> > > > requirements.
> > > > > > > You
> > > > > > > > > may
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> help
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> check
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to
> change.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a
> > > > sponsored
> > > > > > CDN
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> improve
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> speed
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> in
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> China
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But
> > we
> > > > are
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > sure
> > > > > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we
> > send
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > password
> > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> private
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the
> > release
> > > > guide
> > > > > > > [4]
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> depends
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> on
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> password
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute
> > it?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with
> the
> > > > initial
> > > > > > > > PPMCs
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> had
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> no
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> clear
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We
> > should
> > > > decide
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> of
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> them,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> do
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither.
> > > > Basically,
> > > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> decided
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> by
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel
> about
> > > > this.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng
> > https://github.com/kener
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui
> https://github.com/erik168
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin
> > > > https://github.com/chriswong
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8]
> > > > > > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn
> --since="20
> > > > Jan,
> > > > > > > 2018"`
> > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> master
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail -
> > > > 703.798.0171
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > > > > > > dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > > > > > > dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> --
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Yi Shen
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> --
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> Yi Shen
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > > dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Yi Shen
> > Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> >
>
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Junting Wang
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>.
@Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> @Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
@wusheng@apache.org <wu...@apache.org>
Does our mentors have anything else to be discussed?
Thanks
*Ovilia*
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:59 AM Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 with the list
>
> Thanks
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:37 AM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > After removing Ted Liu and use the name in [1]
> > The proposed PMC member list is updated to be the following
> > 14 people:
> >
> > * Houjin Huang <da...@apache.org>
> > * Deqing Li <de...@apache.org>
> > * Dong Rui <er...@apache.org>
> > * Kener Linfeng <ke...@apache.org>
> > * Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
> > * Wenli Zhang <ov...@apache.org>
> > * Shen Yi <sh...@apache.org>
> > * Shuang Su <su...@apache.org>
> > * Siwen Su <su...@apache.org>
> > * Junting Wang <wa...@apache.org>
> > * Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org>
> > * Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>
> > * Sheng Wu <wu...@apache.org>
> > * Zak Wu <za...@apache.org>
> >
> > [1] http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?podling=echarts
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > *Ovilia*
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 7:55 PM Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > FYI，Committers are still Committers of Echarts.
> > >
> > > Willem Jiang
> > >
> > > Twitter: willemjiang
> > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:34 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The list you provided, should be the PMC list only :)
> > > > That is the graduation required. Because PMC takes the reasonability
> > for
> > > > the ECharts.
> > > >
> > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:32写道：
> > > >
> > > > > The roaster shows 21 people:
> > > > > 4 mentors;
> > > > > 11 PPMC members if not counting mentors (you can count the list of
> > PPMC
> > > > > (15));
> > > > > 6 committers if not counting mentors and PPMC members.
> > > > >
> > > > > So 15 is the sum of mentors and PPMC members, and "Committers (21)"
> > is
> > > the
> > > > > sum of mentors, PPMC members and non-PPMC committers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:26 PM Sheng Wu <
> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I am still not following
> > > > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts Roster shows 15
> PPMC
> > > + 4
> > > > > > mentors
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:22写道：
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Sheng,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry I didn't know mentors should be included. Of course we
> are
> > > more
> > > > > > than
> > > > > > > willing
> > > > > > > to include mentors here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > After adding mentors, the list has 21 members, which is the
> same
> > as
> > > > > > roaster
> > > > > > > committer
> > > > > > > number. The number 15 includes mentor but not committers so
> there
> > > is no
> > > > > > > problem
> > > > > > > here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Updated list of members: (21 people)
> > > > > > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > > > > > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > > > > > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > > > > > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > > > > > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > > > > > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > > > > > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > > > > > > kmcgrail@apache.org Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > > > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > > > > > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > > > > > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > > > > > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > > > > > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > > > > > > tedliu@apache.org Ted Liu
> > > > > > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > > > > > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > > > > > > wave@apache.org Dave Fisher
> > > > > > > wusheng@apache.org Sheng Wu
> > > > > > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > > > > > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > > > > > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:13 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:08写道：
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It seems I need to include the initial members and vice
> > > president
> > > > > > name
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > vote email.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if
> we
> > > take
> > > > > all
> > > > > > > > those
> > > > > > > > > initial
> > > > > > > > > PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects.
> > > > > > > > > And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC
> > > member
> > > > > list
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So the full list of initial members would be: (email in
> > > > > alphabetical
> > > > > > > > order)
> > > > > > > > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > > > > > > > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > > > > > > > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > > > > > > > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > > > > > > > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > > > > > > > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > > > > > > > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > > > > > > > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > > > > > > > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > > > > > > > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > > > > > > > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > > > > > > > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > > > > > > > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > > > > > > > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > > > > > > > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > > > > > > > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > > > > > > > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Based on the roaster, you only have 15 PPMC member,
> > > > > > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts, here is 17
> > > people.
> > > > > > Which
> > > > > > > > side is right?
> > > > > > > > And, traditionally, mentors should be asked whether to stay
> in
> > > the
> > > > > PMC,
> > > > > > > > default is yes.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > More information on the vice president (chair of the
> project)
> > > from
> > > > > > [1]:
> > > > > > > > > > PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members,
> > with
> > > one
> > > > > > vote
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > project matters just like other PMC members. The primary
> duty
> > > of a
> > > > > > PMC
> > > > > > > > > chair is
> > > > > > > > > providing quarterly reports to the board about the health
> and
> > > > > status
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > their project.
> > > > > > > > > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing
> > > list,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > aware of
> > > > > > > > > any board concerns about the project, and are responsible
> for
> > > > > working
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > the PMC
> > > > > > > > > as a whole to address any board concerns.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a
> > > volunteer.
> > > > > > During
> > > > > > > > > incubation,
> > > > > > > > > I have been helping the community to grow and push things
> > > forward.
> > > > > > And
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > been writing incubation report since then. I would like to
> > > continue
> > > > > > > > > contributing
> > > > > > > > > and engaging other ones to get involved and help build
> Apache
> > > > > > ECharts a
> > > > > > > > > better
> > > > > > > > > community.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > +1
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC
> Chairs
> > > and
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can
> start
> > > our
> > > > > > vote
> > > > > > > > > soon.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [1]
> > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> > > > > > > > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <
> > oviliazhang@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if no
> > one
> > > > > > > opposes.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <
> > > oviliazhang@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> Hi,
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and
> > > translated
> > > > > > > tools.
> > > > > > > > > >> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may have
> a
> > > > > further
> > > > > > > > > >> discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Please check and comment if there's a problem remaining.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1]
> in
> > > > > > > dev@echarts
> > > > > > > > > >> mailing list soon.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> [1]
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Thanks
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <
> > > oviliazhang@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us
> with
> > > > > > > graduation.
> > > > > > > > We
> > > > > > > > > >>> really appreciate it.
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist is
> > > [2].
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before we
> > > start a
> > > > > > > vote.
> > > > > > > > So
> > > > > > > > > >>> please
> > > > > > > > > >>> tell us if you find something should be changed.
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> [1]
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > > > > > > >>> [2]
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <
> > > > > max@preset.io
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and
> > > wanted
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > >>>> introduce
> > > > > > > > > >>>> myself and offer some help.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache
> > > Airflow
> > > > > > (top
> > > > > > > > > >>>> level)
> > > > > > > > > >>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset
> > > community
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > >>>> currently
> > > > > > > > > >>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50]
> > > Proposal
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > > >>>> ECharts as our main charting library
> > > > > > > > > >>>> <
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>,
> > > > > > > > looking
> > > > > > > > > >>>> forward to collaborate!
> > > > > > > > > >>>> <
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts'
> > > > > graduation
> > > > > > > > > >>>> process as
> > > > > > > > > >>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have
> a
> > > > > > checklist
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > >>>> items
> > > > > > > > > >>>> you're looking for help/support?
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Max
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <
> > > > > quillqian@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF
> > > official
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > community, including:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting
> > > external
> > > > > > > > content
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out
> > something
> > > > > like
> > > > > > > > “this
> > > > > > > > > >>>> is not
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie
> > > collecting
> > > > > > > > > >>>> announcement on
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > websites.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the
> > > service
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > stated out builded version can not represent
> official
> > > > > version
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > >>>> is not
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > for re-distributing.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Quill
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I
> will
> > > use my
> > > > > > > > > nickname)
> > > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <
> > wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > 写道：
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> > > 下午7:21写道：
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The
> > > download
> > > > > > > source
> > > > > > > > > >>>> package
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > is
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but
> > > whether
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > change
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> or
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't
> > > know.
> > > > > And
> > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > >>>> would
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual
> > > confirmation
> > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > >>>> that, the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF
> > > requirements.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is
> > the
> > > > > build
> > > > > > > > script
> > > > > > > > > >>>> used
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > on
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and
> > > voted.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still
> > > about
> > > > > 1.5k
> > > > > > > > > >>>> developers
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> using this online tool everyday.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these
> > > developers to
> > > > > > > build
> > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > source
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> in local.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I think you could start a discussion in the
> > > > > > gerneral@incubator
> > > > > > > ,
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > >>>> check
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution
> > than
> > > > > > removing
> > > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal
> > > > > simulation
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > >>>> page,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at
> > > least.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all
> > > necessary
> > > > > > env,
> > > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > > >>>> you
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > just
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the
> > > > > > > pre-requirement
> > > > > > > > > >>>> env have
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > been installed correctly.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> Thanks
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > > > > > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> > > 下午4:14写道：
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Hi, Sheng
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar,
> > > which
> > > > > > > > includes
> > > > > > > > > >>>> all
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So,
> only
> > > that
> > > > > is
> > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > > >>>> official
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we
> thought
> > is
> > > > > > > bringing
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> local
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> CLI
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> to the web.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> In which developers can
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list
> > which
> > > have
> > > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > > >>>> voted.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the
> > > browser.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a
> > > single js
> > > > > > file
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> browser.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and
> the
> > > local
> > > > > > CLI
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > >>>> all the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> processes are on the browser.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may
> > > cause
> > > > > > > > potential
> > > > > > > > > >>>> risks
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> in
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> it.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The
> > > download
> > > > > > > source
> > > > > > > > > >>>> package
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > is
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but
> > > whether
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > change
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> or
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't
> > > know.
> > > > > And
> > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > >>>> would
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual
> > > confirmation
> > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > >>>> that, the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF
> > > requirements.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Regards.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > > > > > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> > > 下午2:52写道：
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the
> > > > > navigator.
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > >>>> thought it
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> meant
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> if there's a
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx
> but I
> > > > > didn't
> > > > > > > > > realize
> > > > > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> means
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> link is
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be
> added:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software
> > Foundation.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works
> > from
> > > the
> > > > > > > > > community,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> something
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> similar
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is
> currently
> > > > > hosted
> > > > > > > on a
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Baidu
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> server
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and we don't
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the
> > > navigator and
> > > > > > > list
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> somewhere
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> as
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> a
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> community resource?
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of
> > > > > > > > > >>>> community/ecosystem.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> And
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> not
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just
> > extend
> > > the
> > > > > > > Apache
> > > > > > > > > >>>> ECharts.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source
> > > release [2]
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> current
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-theme page
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our
> > > server. Is
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> problem?
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community
> so
> > > they
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > > links
> > > > > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> related
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> GitHub projects.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear
> instruction
> > > on the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and
> > > > > catalogs
> > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > >>>> links
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> to
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 3rd
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the
> > > > > bug/security
> > > > > > > > issue
> > > > > > > > > >>>> when
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> those
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> extensions have issues.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such
> > as
> > > > > > > > enhancement,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> iteration.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation.
> > We
> > > > > didn't
> > > > > > > > put a
> > > > > > > > > >>>> "help
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> translate" note because
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to
> > > > > translate
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> should
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> be
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> done within a few
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will
> > > have a
> > > > > > "(in
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Chinese)"
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> note
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> in
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the navigator.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check
> > whether
> > > > > they
> > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > >>>> finish
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> those
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the
> > > incubator? I
> > > > > > hope
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > >>>> ease
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> other
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> people's concern.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a
> release
> > > with
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > least
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> source
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> files
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> required.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it
> is
> > > not
> > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> source
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> files
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> voted.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic
> to
> > > get
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > source
> > > > > > > > > >>>> file
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> from
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Apache SVN
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be
> > downloaded?
> > > Does
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > >>>> seem to
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> for
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> you?
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source
> tar,
> > > which
> > > > > > > > includes
> > > > > > > > > >>>> all
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So,
> only
> > > that
> > > > > is
> > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > > >>>> official
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is
> OK.
> > > Or,
> > > > > if
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > >>>> prefer
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool
> > to
> > > > > > > repackage
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> source
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> code?
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [2]
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >
> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [3]
> > > > > > > https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A.
> > McGrail
> > > <
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I
> do
> > > > > > remember
> > > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > >>>> was
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is
> doing
> > is
> > > > > > testing
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > >>>> this
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> policy:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website
> link
> > > check
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> incubator,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> does
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could
> > > compare
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese.
> > > What is
> > > > > > > that?
> > > > > > > > > >>>> From
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> my
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> reading,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who
> > > owns (s)
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > >>>> repo?
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension,
> what
> > > are
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> differences
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> between
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember
> > > there
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > any
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> official
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> release
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about
> > these.
> > > > > Could
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> clarify
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> what
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> they
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> are?
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my
> understanding,
> > > they
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> configuration
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are
> Chinese
> > > only,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> have
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> open
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these
> > tools?
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on
> the
> > > > > website
> > > > > > > > > download
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> page,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> how
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it
> > > breaks
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > ASF
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> release
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> process.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is
> not
> > > > > source,
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > >>>> binary)
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> is
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> never
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems
> > you
> > > > > > provide
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> users
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> to
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> get a
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the
> > > unvoted
> > > > > > source
> > > > > > > > > tars
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> make
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> me
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> unsure
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What
> > > other
> > > > > > > mentors
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> think?
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> 于2020年8月3日周一
> > > > > > 上午10:25写道：
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation
> > related
> > > > > > > documents
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> see
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> if
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> there is
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> something
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <
> > > > > > > > > >>>> susiwen8@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It
> > > apply all
> > > > > > > rules
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> most
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful
> features.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC
> qualification,
> > > > > since I
> > > > > > > > > haven't
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> with
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> them,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts,
> Mr
> > > Lin
> > > > > > > Zhifeng
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> Mr
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Dong
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Rui
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> had
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts,
> > > even
> > > > > > > thought
> > > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> haven't
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't
> > > change
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > fact
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> that
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> they
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> have
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so
> naming
> > > they
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > PMC
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> future
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> would
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via
> > > private
> > > > > mail
> > > > > > > > list
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> wasn't a
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> great
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned,
> someone
> > > else
> > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > >>>> "steal"
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> it,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail
> > list
> > > > > which
> > > > > > > > lots
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> people
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> how
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org>
> > > > > 于2020年7月30日周四
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 下午12:57写道：
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the
> > > guide of
> > > > > > > > podling
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> website
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> and
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or
> > > password
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > > email
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> without
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> any
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some
> > > email
> > > > > > > clients
> > > > > > > > > >>>> don’t
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> encrypt
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may
> lead
> > > to a
> > > > > > leak
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> content
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> if
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it’s
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So
> > it’s
> > > > > > better
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> enable
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> email
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt
> the
> > > raw
> > > > > > > > password
> > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> any
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> other
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of
> > the
> > > > > email
> > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> advanced
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a
> > > mailing
> > > > > > list
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> elsewhere.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers,
> > we
> > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > always
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> keep
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> founder
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential
> to
> > > > > ECharts
> > > > > > > > > >>>> project.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> As I
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project
> > > improve
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > develop
> > > > > > > > > >>>> by
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> his
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <
> > > > > > > oviliazhang@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned
> > and
> > > > > > grown a
> > > > > > > > lot
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> since
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> our
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a
> > discussion
> > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > whether
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> are
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> ready
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully,
> after
> > > this
> > > > > > > > > >>>> discussion,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> can
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> set
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly
> report.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has
> completed
> > > the
> > > > > vote
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> undergoing
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined
> > the
> > > > > > > community
> > > > > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> and
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> now
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more
> than
> > 6
> > > > > > > different
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> companies.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active
> and
> > > we
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > 79
> > > > > > > > > >>>> people
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release
> > managers
> > > > > [3];
> > > > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> guide
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> is
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> at
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the
> > project
> > > > > > during
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> incubation
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> [9]
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is
> > > available
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > [5]
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and
> > name
> > > > > > > searching
> > > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> been
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> completed
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content,
> logo,
> > > > > > document,
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > >>>> so
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> on
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> according
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all
> > > requirements.
> > > > > > You
> > > > > > > > may
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> help
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> check
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a
> > > sponsored
> > > > > CDN
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > >>>> improve
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> speed
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> in
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> China
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But
> we
> > > are
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > sure
> > > > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we
> send
> > > the
> > > > > > > password
> > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> private
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the
> release
> > > guide
> > > > > > [4]
> > > > > > > > > >>>> depends
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> on
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> password
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute
> it?
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the
> > > initial
> > > > > > > PPMCs
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> had
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> no
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> clear
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We
> should
> > > decide
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > >>>> of
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> them,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> do
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither.
> > > Basically,
> > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > > >>>> decided
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> by
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about
> > > this.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng
> https://github.com/kener
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin
> > > https://github.com/chriswong
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8]
> > > > > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20
> > > Jan,
> > > > > > 2018"`
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> master
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail -
> > > 703.798.0171
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > > > > > dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > > > > > dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> --
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Yi Shen
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> --
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> Yi Shen
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Yi Shen
> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com>.
+1 with the list
Thanks
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:37 AM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> After removing Ted Liu and use the name in [1]
> The proposed PMC member list is updated to be the following
> 14 people:
>
> * Houjin Huang <da...@apache.org>
> * Deqing Li <de...@apache.org>
> * Dong Rui <er...@apache.org>
> * Kener Linfeng <ke...@apache.org>
> * Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
> * Wenli Zhang <ov...@apache.org>
> * Shen Yi <sh...@apache.org>
> * Shuang Su <su...@apache.org>
> * Siwen Su <su...@apache.org>
> * Junting Wang <wa...@apache.org>
> * Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org>
> * Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>
> * Sheng Wu <wu...@apache.org>
> * Zak Wu <za...@apache.org>
>
> [1] http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?podling=echarts
>
> Thanks
>
> *Ovilia*
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 7:55 PM Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > FYI，Committers are still Committers of Echarts.
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:34 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > The list you provided, should be the PMC list only :)
> > > That is the graduation required. Because PMC takes the reasonability
> for
> > > the ECharts.
> > >
> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > >
> > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:32写道：
> > >
> > > > The roaster shows 21 people:
> > > > 4 mentors;
> > > > 11 PPMC members if not counting mentors (you can count the list of
> PPMC
> > > > (15));
> > > > 6 committers if not counting mentors and PPMC members.
> > > >
> > > > So 15 is the sum of mentors and PPMC members, and "Committers (21)"
> is
> > the
> > > > sum of mentors, PPMC members and non-PPMC committers.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > *Ovilia*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:26 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I am still not following
> > > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts Roster shows 15 PPMC
> > + 4
> > > > > mentors
> > > > >
> > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:22写道：
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Sheng,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry I didn't know mentors should be included. Of course we are
> > more
> > > > > than
> > > > > > willing
> > > > > > to include mentors here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > After adding mentors, the list has 21 members, which is the same
> as
> > > > > roaster
> > > > > > committer
> > > > > > number. The number 15 includes mentor but not committers so there
> > is no
> > > > > > problem
> > > > > > here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Updated list of members: (21 people)
> > > > > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > > > > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > > > > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > > > > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > > > > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > > > > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > > > > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > > > > > kmcgrail@apache.org Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > > > > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > > > > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > > > > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > > > > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > > > > > tedliu@apache.org Ted Liu
> > > > > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > > > > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > > > > > wave@apache.org Dave Fisher
> > > > > > wusheng@apache.org Sheng Wu
> > > > > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > > > > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > > > > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:13 PM Sheng Wu <
> > wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:08写道：
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It seems I need to include the initial members and vice
> > president
> > > > > name
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > vote email.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if we
> > take
> > > > all
> > > > > > > those
> > > > > > > > initial
> > > > > > > > PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects.
> > > > > > > > And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC
> > member
> > > > list
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So the full list of initial members would be: (email in
> > > > alphabetical
> > > > > > > order)
> > > > > > > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > > > > > > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > > > > > > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > > > > > > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > > > > > > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > > > > > > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > > > > > > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > > > > > > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > > > > > > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > > > > > > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > > > > > > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > > > > > > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > > > > > > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > > > > > > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > > > > > > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > > > > > > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > > > > > > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Based on the roaster, you only have 15 PPMC member,
> > > > > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts, here is 17
> > people.
> > > > > Which
> > > > > > > side is right?
> > > > > > > And, traditionally, mentors should be asked whether to stay in
> > the
> > > > PMC,
> > > > > > > default is yes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > More information on the vice president (chair of the project)
> > from
> > > > > [1]:
> > > > > > > > > PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members,
> with
> > one
> > > > > vote
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > project matters just like other PMC members. The primary duty
> > of a
> > > > > PMC
> > > > > > > > chair is
> > > > > > > > providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and
> > > > status
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > their project.
> > > > > > > > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing
> > list,
> > > > and
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > aware of
> > > > > > > > any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for
> > > > working
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > the PMC
> > > > > > > > as a whole to address any board concerns.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a
> > volunteer.
> > > > > During
> > > > > > > > incubation,
> > > > > > > > I have been helping the community to grow and push things
> > forward.
> > > > > And
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > been writing incubation report since then. I would like to
> > continue
> > > > > > > > contributing
> > > > > > > > and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache
> > > > > ECharts a
> > > > > > > > better
> > > > > > > > community.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > +1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs
> > and
> > > > you
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start
> > our
> > > > > vote
> > > > > > > > soon.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [1]
> > https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> > > > > > > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <
> oviliazhang@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if no
> one
> > > > > > opposes.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <
> > oviliazhang@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> Hi,
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and
> > translated
> > > > > > tools.
> > > > > > > > >> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may have a
> > > > further
> > > > > > > > >> discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Please check and comment if there's a problem remaining.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1] in
> > > > > > dev@echarts
> > > > > > > > >> mailing list soon.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> [1]
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Thanks
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <
> > oviliazhang@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us with
> > > > > > graduation.
> > > > > > > We
> > > > > > > > >>> really appreciate it.
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist is
> > [2].
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before we
> > start a
> > > > > > vote.
> > > > > > > So
> > > > > > > > >>> please
> > > > > > > > >>> tell us if you find something should be changed.
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> [1]
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > > > > > >>> [2]
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <
> > > > max@preset.io
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and
> > wanted
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > >>>> introduce
> > > > > > > > >>>> myself and offer some help.
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache
> > Airflow
> > > > > (top
> > > > > > > > >>>> level)
> > > > > > > > >>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset
> > community
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > > >>>> currently
> > > > > > > > >>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50]
> > Proposal
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > >>>> ECharts as our main charting library
> > > > > > > > >>>> <
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>,
> > > > > > > looking
> > > > > > > > >>>> forward to collaborate!
> > > > > > > > >>>> <
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts'
> > > > graduation
> > > > > > > > >>>> process as
> > > > > > > > >>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a
> > > > > checklist
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>>> items
> > > > > > > > >>>> you're looking for help/support?
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> Max
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <
> > > > quillqian@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > >>>> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF
> > official
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>>> > community, including:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting
> > external
> > > > > > > content
> > > > > > > > >>>> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out
> something
> > > > like
> > > > > > > “this
> > > > > > > > >>>> is not
> > > > > > > > >>>> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie
> > collecting
> > > > > > > > >>>> announcement on
> > > > > > > > >>>> > websites.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the
> > service
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > >>>> > stated out builded version can not represent official
> > > > version
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > >>>> is not
> > > > > > > > >>>> > for re-distributing.
> > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > >>>> > Quill
> > > > > > > > >>>> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will
> > use my
> > > > > > > > nickname)
> > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > >>>> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <
> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > 写道：
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> > 下午7:21写道：
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The
> > download
> > > > > > source
> > > > > > > > >>>> package
> > > > > > > > >>>> > is
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but
> > whether
> > > > > there
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >>>> > change
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> or
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't
> > know.
> > > > And
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > >>>> would
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual
> > confirmation
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > >>>> that, the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF
> > requirements.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is
> the
> > > > build
> > > > > > > script
> > > > > > > > >>>> used
> > > > > > > > >>>> > on
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and
> > voted.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still
> > about
> > > > 1.5k
> > > > > > > > >>>> developers
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> using this online tool everyday.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these
> > developers to
> > > > > > build
> > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > >>>> > source
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> in local.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > >>>> > > I think you could start a discussion in the
> > > > > gerneral@incubator
> > > > > > ,
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >>>> check
> > > > > > > > >>>> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution
> than
> > > > > removing
> > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal
> > > > simulation
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > >>>> page,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at
> > least.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all
> > necessary
> > > > > env,
> > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > >>>> you
> > > > > > > > >>>> > just
> > > > > > > > >>>> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the
> > > > > > pre-requirement
> > > > > > > > >>>> env have
> > > > > > > > >>>> > > been installed correctly.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> Thanks
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > > > > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> > 下午4:14写道：
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Hi, Sheng
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar,
> > which
> > > > > > > includes
> > > > > > > > >>>> all
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only
> > that
> > > > is
> > > > > an
> > > > > > > > >>>> official
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought
> is
> > > > > > bringing
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>>> local
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> CLI
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> to the web.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> In which developers can
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list
> which
> > have
> > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > >>>> voted.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the
> > browser.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a
> > single js
> > > > > file
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> browser.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the
> > local
> > > > > CLI
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > >>>> all the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> processes are on the browser.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may
> > cause
> > > > > > > potential
> > > > > > > > >>>> risks
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> in
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> it.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The
> > download
> > > > > > source
> > > > > > > > >>>> package
> > > > > > > > >>>> > is
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but
> > whether
> > > > > there
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >>>> > change
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> or
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't
> > know.
> > > > And
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > >>>> would
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual
> > confirmation
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > >>>> that, the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF
> > requirements.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Regards.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > > > > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> > 下午2:52写道：
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the
> > > > navigator.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > > >>>> thought it
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> meant
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> if there's a
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I
> > > > didn't
> > > > > > > > realize
> > > > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> means
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> link is
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software
> Foundation.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works
> from
> > the
> > > > > > > > community,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> something
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> similar
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently
> > > > hosted
> > > > > > on a
> > > > > > > > >>>> Baidu
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> server
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and we don't
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the
> > navigator and
> > > > > > list
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> somewhere
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> as
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> a
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> community resource?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of
> > > > > > > > >>>> community/ecosystem.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> And
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> not
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just
> extend
> > the
> > > > > > Apache
> > > > > > > > >>>> ECharts.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source
> > release [2]
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> current
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-theme page
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our
> > server. Is
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> problem?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so
> > they
> > > > are
> > > > > > > links
> > > > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> related
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> GitHub projects.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction
> > on the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and
> > > > catalogs
> > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > >>>> links
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> to
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 3rd
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the
> > > > bug/security
> > > > > > > issue
> > > > > > > > >>>> when
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> those
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> extensions have issues.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such
> as
> > > > > > > enhancement,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> iteration.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation.
> We
> > > > didn't
> > > > > > > put a
> > > > > > > > >>>> "help
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> translate" note because
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to
> > > > translate
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> should
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> be
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> done within a few
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will
> > have a
> > > > > "(in
> > > > > > > > >>>> Chinese)"
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> note
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> in
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the navigator.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check
> whether
> > > > they
> > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > >>>> finish
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> those
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the
> > incubator? I
> > > > > hope
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >>>> ease
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> other
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> people's concern.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > > > > least
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> source
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> files
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> required.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is
> > not
> > > > > using
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>>> source
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> files
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> voted.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to
> > get
> > > > the
> > > > > > > source
> > > > > > > > >>>> file
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> from
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Apache SVN
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be
> downloaded?
> > Does
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > >>>> seem to
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> for
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> you?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar,
> > which
> > > > > > > includes
> > > > > > > > >>>> all
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only
> > that
> > > > is
> > > > > an
> > > > > > > > >>>> official
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK.
> > Or,
> > > > if
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > >>>> prefer
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool
> to
> > > > > > repackage
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> source
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> code?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [2]
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [3]
> > > > > > https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A.
> McGrail
> > <
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do
> > > > > remember
> > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > >>>> was
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing
> is
> > > > > testing
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > >>>> this
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> policy:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link
> > check
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> incubator,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> does
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could
> > compare
> > > > it
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese.
> > What is
> > > > > > that?
> > > > > > > > >>>> From
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> my
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> reading,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who
> > owns (s)
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > >>>> repo?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what
> > are
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> differences
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> between
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember
> > there
> > > > is
> > > > > > any
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> official
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> release
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about
> these.
> > > > Could
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> clarify
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> what
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> they
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> are?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding,
> > they
> > > > are
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> configuration
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese
> > only,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> have
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> open
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these
> tools?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the
> > > > website
> > > > > > > > download
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> page,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> how
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it
> > breaks
> > > > the
> > > > > > ASF
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> release
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> process.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not
> > > > source,
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > > >>>> binary)
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> is
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> never
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems
> you
> > > > > provide
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> users
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> get a
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the
> > unvoted
> > > > > source
> > > > > > > > tars
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> make
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> me
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> unsure
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What
> > other
> > > > > > mentors
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> think?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> > > > > 上午10:25写道：
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation
> related
> > > > > > documents
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> see
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> if
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> there is
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> something
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <
> > > > > > > > >>>> susiwen8@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It
> > apply all
> > > > > > rules
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> most
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification,
> > > > since I
> > > > > > > > haven't
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> with
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> them,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr
> > Lin
> > > > > > Zhifeng
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> Mr
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Dong
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Rui
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> had
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts,
> > even
> > > > > > thought
> > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> haven't
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't
> > change
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > fact
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> that
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> they
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> have
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming
> > they
> > > > as
> > > > > > PMC
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> future
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> would
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via
> > private
> > > > mail
> > > > > > > list
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> wasn't a
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> great
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone
> > else
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > > >>>> "steal"
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> it,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail
> list
> > > > which
> > > > > > > lots
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> people
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> how
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org>
> > > > 于2020年7月30日周四
> > > > > > > > >>>> 下午12:57写道：
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the
> > guide of
> > > > > > > podling
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> website
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or
> > password
> > > > on
> > > > > > > email
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> without
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> any
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some
> > email
> > > > > > clients
> > > > > > > > >>>> don’t
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> encrypt
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead
> > to a
> > > > > leak
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> content
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> if
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it’s
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So
> it’s
> > > > > better
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> enable
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> email
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the
> > raw
> > > > > > > password
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> any
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> other
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of
> the
> > > > email
> > > > > by
> > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> advanced
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a
> > mailing
> > > > > list
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> elsewhere.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers,
> we
> > > > should
> > > > > > > > always
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> keep
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> founder
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to
> > > > ECharts
> > > > > > > > >>>> project.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> As I
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project
> > improve
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > develop
> > > > > > > > >>>> by
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> his
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <
> > > > > > oviliazhang@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned
> and
> > > > > grown a
> > > > > > > lot
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> since
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> our
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a
> discussion
> > > > about
> > > > > > > > whether
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> are
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> ready
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after
> > this
> > > > > > > > >>>> discussion,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> can
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> set
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed
> > the
> > > > vote
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> undergoing
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined
> the
> > > > > > community
> > > > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> and
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> now
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than
> 6
> > > > > > different
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> companies.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and
> > we
> > > > have
> > > > > > 79
> > > > > > > > >>>> people
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release
> managers
> > > > [3];
> > > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> guide
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> is
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> at
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the
> project
> > > > > during
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> incubation
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> [9]
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is
> > available
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > [5]
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and
> name
> > > > > > searching
> > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> been
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> completed
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo,
> > > > > document,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>>> so
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> on
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> according
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all
> > requirements.
> > > > > You
> > > > > > > may
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> help
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> check
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a
> > sponsored
> > > > CDN
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >>>> improve
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> speed
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> in
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> China
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we
> > are
> > > > not
> > > > > > sure
> > > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send
> > the
> > > > > > password
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> private
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release
> > guide
> > > > > [4]
> > > > > > > > >>>> depends
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> on
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> password
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the
> > initial
> > > > > > PPMCs
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> had
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> no
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> clear
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should
> > decide
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > >>>> of
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> them,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> do
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither.
> > Basically,
> > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > >>>> decided
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> by
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project,
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about
> > this.
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin
> > https://github.com/chriswong
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8]
> > > > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20
> > Jan,
> > > > > 2018"`
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> master
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > > > > > >>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail -
> > 703.798.0171
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > > > > dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > > > > dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> --
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Yi Shen
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> --
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> Yi Shen
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>> >
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Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>.
After removing Ted Liu and use the name in [1]
The proposed PMC member list is updated to be the following
14 people:
* Houjin Huang <da...@apache.org>
* Deqing Li <de...@apache.org>
* Dong Rui <er...@apache.org>
* Kener Linfeng <ke...@apache.org>
* Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
* Wenli Zhang <ov...@apache.org>
* Shen Yi <sh...@apache.org>
* Shuang Su <su...@apache.org>
* Siwen Su <su...@apache.org>
* Junting Wang <wa...@apache.org>
* Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org>
* Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>
* Sheng Wu <wu...@apache.org>
* Zak Wu <za...@apache.org>
[1] http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?podling=echarts
Thanks
*Ovilia*
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 7:55 PM Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> FYI，Committers are still Committers of Echarts.
>
> Willem Jiang
>
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:34 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > The list you provided, should be the PMC list only :)
> > That is the graduation required. Because PMC takes the reasonability for
> > the ECharts.
> >
> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:32写道：
> >
> > > The roaster shows 21 people:
> > > 4 mentors;
> > > 11 PPMC members if not counting mentors (you can count the list of PPMC
> > > (15));
> > > 6 committers if not counting mentors and PPMC members.
> > >
> > > So 15 is the sum of mentors and PPMC members, and "Committers (21)" is
> the
> > > sum of mentors, PPMC members and non-PPMC committers.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > *Ovilia*
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:26 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am still not following
> > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts Roster shows 15 PPMC
> + 4
> > > > mentors
> > > >
> > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:22写道：
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Sheng,
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry I didn't know mentors should be included. Of course we are
> more
> > > > than
> > > > > willing
> > > > > to include mentors here.
> > > > >
> > > > > After adding mentors, the list has 21 members, which is the same as
> > > > roaster
> > > > > committer
> > > > > number. The number 15 includes mentor but not committers so there
> is no
> > > > > problem
> > > > > here.
> > > > >
> > > > > Updated list of members: (21 people)
> > > > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > > > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > > > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > > > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > > > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > > > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > > > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > > > > kmcgrail@apache.org Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > > > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > > > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > > > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > > > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > > > > tedliu@apache.org Ted Liu
> > > > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > > > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > > > > wave@apache.org Dave Fisher
> > > > > wusheng@apache.org Sheng Wu
> > > > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > > > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > > > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:13 PM Sheng Wu <
> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:08写道：
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > It seems I need to include the initial members and vice
> president
> > > > name
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > vote email.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if we
> take
> > > all
> > > > > > those
> > > > > > > initial
> > > > > > > PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects.
> > > > > > > And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC
> member
> > > list
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So the full list of initial members would be: (email in
> > > alphabetical
> > > > > > order)
> > > > > > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > > > > > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > > > > > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > > > > > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > > > > > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > > > > > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > > > > > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > > > > > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > > > > > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > > > > > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > > > > > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > > > > > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > > > > > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > > > > > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > > > > > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > > > > > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > > > > > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Based on the roaster, you only have 15 PPMC member,
> > > > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts, here is 17
> people.
> > > > Which
> > > > > > side is right?
> > > > > > And, traditionally, mentors should be asked whether to stay in
> the
> > > PMC,
> > > > > > default is yes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > More information on the vice president (chair of the project)
> from
> > > > [1]:
> > > > > > > > PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members, with
> one
> > > > vote
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > project matters just like other PMC members. The primary duty
> of a
> > > > PMC
> > > > > > > chair is
> > > > > > > providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and
> > > status
> > > > of
> > > > > > > their project.
> > > > > > > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing
> list,
> > > and
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > aware of
> > > > > > > any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for
> > > working
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > the PMC
> > > > > > > as a whole to address any board concerns.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a
> volunteer.
> > > > During
> > > > > > > incubation,
> > > > > > > I have been helping the community to grow and push things
> forward.
> > > > And
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > been writing incubation report since then. I would like to
> continue
> > > > > > > contributing
> > > > > > > and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache
> > > > ECharts a
> > > > > > > better
> > > > > > > community.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +1
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs
> and
> > > you
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start
> our
> > > > vote
> > > > > > > soon.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1]
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> > > > > > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if no one
> > > > > opposes.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <
> oviliazhang@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> Hi,
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and
> translated
> > > > > tools.
> > > > > > > >> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may have a
> > > further
> > > > > > > >> discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Please check and comment if there's a problem remaining.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1] in
> > > > > dev@echarts
> > > > > > > >> mailing list soon.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> [1]
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <
> oviliazhang@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us with
> > > > > graduation.
> > > > > > We
> > > > > > > >>> really appreciate it.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist is
> [2].
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before we
> start a
> > > > > vote.
> > > > > > So
> > > > > > > >>> please
> > > > > > > >>> tell us if you find something should be changed.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> [1]
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > > > > >>> [2]
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <
> > > max@preset.io
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and
> wanted
> > > to
> > > > > > > >>>> introduce
> > > > > > > >>>> myself and offer some help.
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache
> Airflow
> > > > (top
> > > > > > > >>>> level)
> > > > > > > >>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset
> community
> > > > is
> > > > > > > >>>> currently
> > > > > > > >>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50]
> Proposal
> > > > for
> > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > >>>> ECharts as our main charting library
> > > > > > > >>>> <
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>,
> > > > > > looking
> > > > > > > >>>> forward to collaborate!
> > > > > > > >>>> <
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts'
> > > graduation
> > > > > > > >>>> process as
> > > > > > > >>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a
> > > > checklist
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >>>> items
> > > > > > > >>>> you're looking for help/support?
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Max
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <
> > > quillqian@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >>>> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF
> official
> > > > and
> > > > > > > >>>> > community, including:
> > > > > > > >>>> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting
> external
> > > > > > content
> > > > > > > >>>> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something
> > > like
> > > > > > “this
> > > > > > > >>>> is not
> > > > > > > >>>> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie
> collecting
> > > > > > > >>>> announcement on
> > > > > > > >>>> > websites.
> > > > > > > >>>> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the
> service
> > > > but
> > > > > > also
> > > > > > > >>>> > stated out builded version can not represent official
> > > version
> > > > > and
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > >>>> is not
> > > > > > > >>>> > for re-distributing.
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >>>> > Quill
> > > > > > > >>>> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will
> use my
> > > > > > > nickname)
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >>>> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com
> >
> > > 写道：
> > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> 下午7:21写道：
> > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The
> download
> > > > > source
> > > > > > > >>>> package
> > > > > > > >>>> > is
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but
> whether
> > > > there
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > >>>> > change
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> or
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't
> know.
> > > And
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > >>>> would
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual
> confirmation
> > > > > about
> > > > > > > >>>> that, the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF
> requirements.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is the
> > > build
> > > > > > script
> > > > > > > >>>> used
> > > > > > > >>>> > on
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and
> voted.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still
> about
> > > 1.5k
> > > > > > > >>>> developers
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> using this online tool everyday.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these
> developers to
> > > > > build
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > >>>> > source
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> in local.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > >>>> > > I think you could start a discussion in the
> > > > gerneral@incubator
> > > > > ,
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > >>>> check
> > > > > > > >>>> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than
> > > > removing
> > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal
> > > simulation
> > > > on
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > >>>> page,
> > > > > > > >>>> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at
> least.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all
> necessary
> > > > env,
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > > >>>> you
> > > > > > > >>>> > just
> > > > > > > >>>> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the
> > > > > pre-requirement
> > > > > > > >>>> env have
> > > > > > > >>>> > > been installed correctly.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > > > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >>>> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> 下午4:14写道：
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Hi, Sheng
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar,
> which
> > > > > > includes
> > > > > > > >>>> all
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only
> that
> > > is
> > > > an
> > > > > > > >>>> official
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is
> > > > > bringing
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>>> local
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> CLI
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> to the web.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> In which developers can
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which
> have
> > > > > been
> > > > > > > >>>> voted.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the
> browser.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a
> single js
> > > > file
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> browser.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the
> local
> > > > CLI
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > >>>> all the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> processes are on the browser.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may
> cause
> > > > > > potential
> > > > > > > >>>> risks
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> in
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> it.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The
> download
> > > > > source
> > > > > > > >>>> package
> > > > > > > >>>> > is
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but
> whether
> > > > there
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > >>>> > change
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> or
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't
> know.
> > > And
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > >>>> would
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual
> confirmation
> > > > > about
> > > > > > > >>>> that, the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF
> requirements.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Regards.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > > > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> 下午2:52写道：
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the
> > > navigator.
> > > > I
> > > > > > > >>>> thought it
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> meant
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> if there's a
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I
> > > didn't
> > > > > > > realize
> > > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> means
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> link is
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from
> the
> > > > > > > community,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> something
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> similar
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently
> > > hosted
> > > > > on a
> > > > > > > >>>> Baidu
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> server
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and we don't
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the
> navigator and
> > > > > list
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> somewhere
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> as
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> a
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> community resource?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of
> > > > > > > >>>> community/ecosystem.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> And
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> not
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend
> the
> > > > > Apache
> > > > > > > >>>> ECharts.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source
> release [2]
> > > > and
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> current
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-theme page
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our
> server. Is
> > > > > this
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> problem?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so
> they
> > > are
> > > > > > links
> > > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> related
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> GitHub projects.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction
> on the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and
> > > catalogs
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > > >>>> links
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> to
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 3rd
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the
> > > bug/security
> > > > > > issue
> > > > > > > >>>> when
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> those
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> extensions have issues.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as
> > > > > > enhancement,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> iteration.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We
> > > didn't
> > > > > > put a
> > > > > > > >>>> "help
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> translate" note because
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to
> > > translate
> > > > > and
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> should
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> be
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> done within a few
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will
> have a
> > > > "(in
> > > > > > > >>>> Chinese)"
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> note
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> in
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the navigator.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether
> > > they
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > > >>>> finish
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> those
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the
> incubator? I
> > > > hope
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > >>>> ease
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> other
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> people's concern.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release
> with
> > > the
> > > > > > least
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> source
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> files
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> required.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is
> not
> > > > using
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>>> source
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> files
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> voted.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to
> get
> > > the
> > > > > > source
> > > > > > > >>>> file
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> from
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Apache SVN
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded?
> Does
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > >>>> seem to
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> for
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> you?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar,
> which
> > > > > > includes
> > > > > > > >>>> all
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only
> that
> > > is
> > > > an
> > > > > > > >>>> official
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK.
> Or,
> > > if
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > >>>> prefer
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to
> > > > > repackage
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> source
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> code?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [2]
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [3]
> > > > > https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail
> <
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do
> > > > remember
> > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > >>>> was
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is
> > > > testing
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > >>>> this
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> policy:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link
> check
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> incubator,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> does
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could
> compare
> > > it
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese.
> What is
> > > > > that?
> > > > > > > >>>> From
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> my
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> reading,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who
> owns (s)
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > >>>> repo?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what
> are
> > > the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> differences
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> between
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember
> there
> > > is
> > > > > any
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> official
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> release
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these.
> > > Could
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> clarify
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> what
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> they
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> are?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding,
> they
> > > are
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> configuration
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese
> only,
> > > > and
> > > > > do
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> have
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> open
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the
> > > website
> > > > > > > download
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> page,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> how
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it
> breaks
> > > the
> > > > > ASF
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> release
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> process.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not
> > > source,
> > > > no
> > > > > > > >>>> binary)
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> is
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> never
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you
> > > > provide
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> users
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> to
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> get a
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the
> unvoted
> > > > source
> > > > > > > tars
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> make
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> me
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> unsure
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What
> other
> > > > > mentors
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> think?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> > > > 上午10:25写道：
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related
> > > > > documents
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> see
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> if
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> there is
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> something
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <
> > > > > > > >>>> susiwen8@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It
> apply all
> > > > > rules
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> most
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification,
> > > since I
> > > > > > > haven't
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> with
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> them,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr
> Lin
> > > > > Zhifeng
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> Mr
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Dong
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Rui
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> had
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts,
> even
> > > > > thought
> > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> haven't
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't
> change
> > > > the
> > > > > > fact
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> that
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> they
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> have
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming
> they
> > > as
> > > > > PMC
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> future
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> would
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via
> private
> > > mail
> > > > > > list
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> wasn't a
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> great
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone
> else
> > > > would
> > > > > > > >>>> "steal"
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> it,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list
> > > which
> > > > > > lots
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> people
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> how
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org>
> > > 于2020年7月30日周四
> > > > > > > >>>> 下午12:57写道：
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the
> guide of
> > > > > > podling
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> website
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or
> password
> > > on
> > > > > > email
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> without
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> any
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some
> email
> > > > > clients
> > > > > > > >>>> don’t
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> encrypt
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead
> to a
> > > > leak
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> content
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> if
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it’s
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s
> > > > better
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> enable
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> email
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the
> raw
> > > > > > password
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> any
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> other
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the
> > > email
> > > > by
> > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> advanced
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a
> mailing
> > > > list
> > > > > or
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> elsewhere.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we
> > > should
> > > > > > > always
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> keep
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> founder
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to
> > > ECharts
> > > > > > > >>>> project.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> As I
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project
> improve
> > > and
> > > > > > > develop
> > > > > > > >>>> by
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> his
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <
> > > > > oviliazhang@gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and
> > > > grown a
> > > > > > lot
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> since
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> our
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion
> > > about
> > > > > > > whether
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> are
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> ready
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after
> this
> > > > > > > >>>> discussion,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> can
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> set
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed
> the
> > > vote
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> undergoing
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the
> > > > > community
> > > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> and
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> now
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6
> > > > > different
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> companies.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and
> we
> > > have
> > > > > 79
> > > > > > > >>>> people
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers
> > > [3];
> > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> guide
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> is
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> at
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project
> > > > during
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> incubation
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> [9]
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is
> available
> > > > at
> > > > > > [5]
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name
> > > > > searching
> > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> been
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> completed
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo,
> > > > document,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >>>> so
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> on
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> according
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all
> requirements.
> > > > You
> > > > > > may
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> help
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> check
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a
> sponsored
> > > CDN
> > > > to
> > > > > > > >>>> improve
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> speed
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> in
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> China
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we
> are
> > > not
> > > > > sure
> > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send
> the
> > > > > password
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> private
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release
> guide
> > > > [4]
> > > > > > > >>>> depends
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> on
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> password
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the
> initial
> > > > > PPMCs
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> had
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> no
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> clear
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should
> decide
> > > > on
> > > > > > each
> > > > > > > >>>> of
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> them,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> do
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither.
> Basically,
> > > > it's
> > > > > > > >>>> decided
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> by
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about
> this.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin
> https://github.com/chriswong
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8]
> > > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20
> Jan,
> > > > 2018"`
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> master
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > > > > >>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail -
> 703.798.0171
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > > > dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > > > dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Yi Shen
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> --
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> Yi Shen
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>.
FYI，Committers are still Committers of Echarts.
Willem Jiang
Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:34 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The list you provided, should be the PMC list only :)
> That is the graduation required. Because PMC takes the reasonability for
> the ECharts.
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:32写道：
>
> > The roaster shows 21 people:
> > 4 mentors;
> > 11 PPMC members if not counting mentors (you can count the list of PPMC
> > (15));
> > 6 committers if not counting mentors and PPMC members.
> >
> > So 15 is the sum of mentors and PPMC members, and "Committers (21)" is the
> > sum of mentors, PPMC members and non-PPMC committers.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > *Ovilia*
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:26 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I am still not following
> > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts Roster shows 15 PPMC + 4
> > > mentors
> > >
> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > >
> > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:22写道：
> > >
> > > > Hi Sheng,
> > > >
> > > > Sorry I didn't know mentors should be included. Of course we are more
> > > than
> > > > willing
> > > > to include mentors here.
> > > >
> > > > After adding mentors, the list has 21 members, which is the same as
> > > roaster
> > > > committer
> > > > number. The number 15 includes mentor but not committers so there is no
> > > > problem
> > > > here.
> > > >
> > > > Updated list of members: (21 people)
> > > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > > > kmcgrail@apache.org Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > > > tedliu@apache.org Ted Liu
> > > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > > > wave@apache.org Dave Fisher
> > > > wusheng@apache.org Sheng Wu
> > > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > *Ovilia*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:13 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:08写道：
> > > > >
> > > > > > It seems I need to include the initial members and vice president
> > > name
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > vote email.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if we take
> > all
> > > > > those
> > > > > > initial
> > > > > > PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects.
> > > > > > And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC member
> > list
> > > > and
> > > > > > current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So the full list of initial members would be: (email in
> > alphabetical
> > > > > order)
> > > > > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > > > > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > > > > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > > > > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > > > > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > > > > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > > > > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > > > > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > > > > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > > > > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > > > > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > > > > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > > > > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > > > > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > > > > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > > > > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > > > > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Based on the roaster, you only have 15 PPMC member,
> > > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts, here is 17 people.
> > > Which
> > > > > side is right?
> > > > > And, traditionally, mentors should be asked whether to stay in the
> > PMC,
> > > > > default is yes.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > More information on the vice president (chair of the project) from
> > > [1]:
> > > > > > > PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members, with one
> > > vote
> > > > > on
> > > > > > project matters just like other PMC members. The primary duty of a
> > > PMC
> > > > > > chair is
> > > > > > providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and
> > status
> > > of
> > > > > > their project.
> > > > > > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list,
> > and
> > > > be
> > > > > > aware of
> > > > > > any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for
> > working
> > > > > with
> > > > > > the PMC
> > > > > > as a whole to address any board concerns.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a volunteer.
> > > During
> > > > > > incubation,
> > > > > > I have been helping the community to grow and push things forward.
> > > And
> > > > I
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > been writing incubation report since then. I would like to continue
> > > > > > contributing
> > > > > > and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache
> > > ECharts a
> > > > > > better
> > > > > > community.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > +1
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and
> > you
> > > > are
> > > > > > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our
> > > vote
> > > > > > soon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> > > > > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if no one
> > > > opposes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Hi,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and translated
> > > > tools.
> > > > > > >> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may have a
> > further
> > > > > > >> discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Please check and comment if there's a problem remaining.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1] in
> > > > dev@echarts
> > > > > > >> mailing list soon.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> [1]
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Thanks
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us with
> > > > graduation.
> > > > > We
> > > > > > >>> really appreciate it.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist is [2].
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before we start a
> > > > vote.
> > > > > So
> > > > > > >>> please
> > > > > > >>> tell us if you find something should be changed.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> [1]
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > > > >>> [2]
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <
> > max@preset.io
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and wanted
> > to
> > > > > > >>>> introduce
> > > > > > >>>> myself and offer some help.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache Airflow
> > > (top
> > > > > > >>>> level)
> > > > > > >>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset community
> > > is
> > > > > > >>>> currently
> > > > > > >>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50] Proposal
> > > for
> > > > > > using
> > > > > > >>>> ECharts as our main charting library
> > > > > > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>,
> > > > > looking
> > > > > > >>>> forward to collaborate!
> > > > > > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts'
> > graduation
> > > > > > >>>> process as
> > > > > > >>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a
> > > checklist
> > > > > and
> > > > > > >>>> items
> > > > > > >>>> you're looking for help/support?
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Max
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <
> > quillqian@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > >>>> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF official
> > > and
> > > > > > >>>> > community, including:
> > > > > > >>>> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting external
> > > > > content
> > > > > > >>>> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something
> > like
> > > > > “this
> > > > > > >>>> is not
> > > > > > >>>> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie collecting
> > > > > > >>>> announcement on
> > > > > > >>>> > websites.
> > > > > > >>>> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the service
> > > but
> > > > > also
> > > > > > >>>> > stated out builded version can not represent official
> > version
> > > > and
> > > > > it
> > > > > > >>>> is not
> > > > > > >>>> > for re-distributing.
> > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > >>>> > Quill
> > > > > > >>>> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will use my
> > > > > > nickname)
> > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > >>>> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > 写道：
> > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > >>>> > > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午7:21写道：
> > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download
> > > > source
> > > > > > >>>> package
> > > > > > >>>> > is
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether
> > > there
> > > > > is
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > >>>> > change
> > > > > > >>>> > >> or
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know.
> > And
> > > > no
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > >>>> would
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation
> > > > about
> > > > > > >>>> that, the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > >>>> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is the
> > build
> > > > > script
> > > > > > >>>> used
> > > > > > >>>> > on
> > > > > > >>>> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and voted.
> > > > > > >>>> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still about
> > 1.5k
> > > > > > >>>> developers
> > > > > > >>>> > >> using this online tool everyday.
> > > > > > >>>> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these developers to
> > > > build
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > >>>> > source
> > > > > > >>>> > >> in local.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > >>>> > > I think you could start a discussion in the
> > > gerneral@incubator
> > > > ,
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > >>>> check
> > > > > > >>>> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than
> > > removing
> > > > > it.
> > > > > > >>>> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal
> > simulation
> > > on
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > >>>> page,
> > > > > > >>>> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at least.
> > > > > > >>>> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all necessary
> > > env,
> > > > > then
> > > > > > >>>> you
> > > > > > >>>> > just
> > > > > > >>>> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the
> > > > pre-requirement
> > > > > > >>>> env have
> > > > > > >>>> > > been installed correctly.
> > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > >>>> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > >>>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > >>>> > >> Thanks
> > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >>>> > wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道：
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Hi, Sheng
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which
> > > > > includes
> > > > > > >>>> all
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that
> > is
> > > an
> > > > > > >>>> official
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is
> > > > bringing
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >>>> local
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> CLI
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> to the web.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> In which developers can
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have
> > > > been
> > > > > > >>>> voted.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js
> > > file
> > > > > on
> > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> browser.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the local
> > > CLI
> > > > is
> > > > > > >>>> all the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> processes are on the browser.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause
> > > > > potential
> > > > > > >>>> risks
> > > > > > >>>> > >> in
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> it.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download
> > > > source
> > > > > > >>>> package
> > > > > > >>>> > is
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether
> > > there
> > > > > is
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > >>>> > change
> > > > > > >>>> > >> or
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know.
> > And
> > > > no
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > >>>> would
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation
> > > > about
> > > > > > >>>> that, the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Regards.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道：
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the
> > navigator.
> > > I
> > > > > > >>>> thought it
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> meant
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> if there's a
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I
> > didn't
> > > > > > realize
> > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> means
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> link is
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the
> > > > > > community,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> something
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> similar
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently
> > hosted
> > > > on a
> > > > > > >>>> Baidu
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> server
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and we don't
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the navigator and
> > > > list
> > > > > it
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> somewhere
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> as
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> a
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> community resource?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of
> > > > > > >>>> community/ecosystem.
> > > > > > >>>> > >> And
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> not
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the
> > > > Apache
> > > > > > >>>> ECharts.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2]
> > > and
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >>>> > >> current
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-theme page
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is
> > > > this
> > > > > a
> > > > > > >>>> > >> problem?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so they
> > are
> > > > > links
> > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> related
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> GitHub projects.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and
> > catalogs
> > > > > about
> > > > > > >>>> links
> > > > > > >>>> > >> to
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 3rd
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the
> > bug/security
> > > > > issue
> > > > > > >>>> when
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> those
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> extensions have issues.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as
> > > > > enhancement,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> iteration.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We
> > didn't
> > > > > put a
> > > > > > >>>> "help
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> translate" note because
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to
> > translate
> > > > and
> > > > > it
> > > > > > >>>> > >> should
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> be
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> done within a few
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a
> > > "(in
> > > > > > >>>> Chinese)"
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> note
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> in
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the navigator.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether
> > they
> > > > > could
> > > > > > >>>> finish
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> those
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I
> > > hope
> > > > to
> > > > > > >>>> ease
> > > > > > >>>> > >> other
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> people's concern.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release with
> > the
> > > > > least
> > > > > > >>>> > >> source
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> files
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> required.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is not
> > > using
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >>>> source
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> files
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> voted.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to get
> > the
> > > > > source
> > > > > > >>>> file
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> from
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Apache SVN
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does
> > > > that
> > > > > > >>>> seem to
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> for
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> you?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which
> > > > > includes
> > > > > > >>>> all
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that
> > is
> > > an
> > > > > > >>>> official
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or,
> > if
> > > > you
> > > > > > >>>> prefer
> > > > > > >>>> > >> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to
> > > > repackage
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >>>> > >> source
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> code?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [1]
> > > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [2]
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [3]
> > > > https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do
> > > remember
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > >>>> was
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is
> > > testing
> > > > > for
> > > > > > >>>> this
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> policy:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link check
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> incubator,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> does
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could compare
> > it
> > > > > with
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is
> > > > that?
> > > > > > >>>> From
> > > > > > >>>> > >> my
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> reading,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s)
> > > > this
> > > > > > >>>> repo?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are
> > the
> > > > > > >>>> > >> differences
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> between
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there
> > is
> > > > any
> > > > > > >>>> > >> official
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> release
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these.
> > Could
> > > > you
> > > > > > >>>> > >> clarify
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> what
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> they
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> are?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they
> > are
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> configuration
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only,
> > > and
> > > > do
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> have
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> open
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the
> > website
> > > > > > download
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> page,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> how
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks
> > the
> > > > ASF
> > > > > > >>>> > >> release
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> process.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not
> > source,
> > > no
> > > > > > >>>> binary)
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> is
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> never
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you
> > > provide
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >>>> > >> users
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> to
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> get a
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted
> > > source
> > > > > > tars
> > > > > > >>>> > >> make
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> me
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> unsure
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other
> > > > mentors
> > > > > > >>>> > >> think?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> > > 上午10:25写道：
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related
> > > > documents
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > >>>> > >> see
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> if
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> there is
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> something
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <
> > > > > > >>>> susiwen8@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all
> > > > rules
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> most
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification,
> > since I
> > > > > > haven't
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> with
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> them,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin
> > > > Zhifeng
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > >>>> > >> Mr
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Dong
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Rui
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> had
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even
> > > > thought
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> haven't
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't change
> > > the
> > > > > fact
> > > > > > >>>> > >> that
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> they
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> have
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they
> > as
> > > > PMC
> > > > > in
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> future
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> would
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> be
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via private
> > mail
> > > > > list
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> wasn't a
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> great
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else
> > > would
> > > > > > >>>> "steal"
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> it,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list
> > which
> > > > > lots
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> people
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> how
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org>
> > 于2020年7月30日周四
> > > > > > >>>> 下午12:57写道：
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of
> > > > > podling
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> website
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password
> > on
> > > > > email
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> without
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> any
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email
> > > > clients
> > > > > > >>>> don’t
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> encrypt
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead to a
> > > leak
> > > > > of
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> content
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> if
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it’s
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s
> > > better
> > > > to
> > > > > > >>>> > >> enable
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> email
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw
> > > > > password
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > >>>> > >> any
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> other
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the
> > email
> > > by
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> advanced
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing
> > > list
> > > > or
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> elsewhere.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we
> > should
> > > > > > always
> > > > > > >>>> > >> keep
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> founder
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to
> > ECharts
> > > > > > >>>> project.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> As I
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve
> > and
> > > > > > develop
> > > > > > >>>> by
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> his
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <
> > > > oviliazhang@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>>> > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and
> > > grown a
> > > > > lot
> > > > > > >>>> > >> since
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> our
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion
> > about
> > > > > > whether
> > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> are
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> ready
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this
> > > > > > >>>> discussion,
> > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> can
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> set
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the
> > vote
> > > > and
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> undergoing
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the
> > > > community
> > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > >>>> > >> and
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> now
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6
> > > > different
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> companies.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we
> > have
> > > > 79
> > > > > > >>>> people
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers
> > [3];
> > > > > > release
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> guide
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> is
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> at
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project
> > > during
> > > > > > >>>> > >> incubation
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> [9]
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available
> > > at
> > > > > [5]
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name
> > > > searching
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> been
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> completed
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo,
> > > document,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > >>>> so
> > > > > > >>>> > >> on
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> according
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements.
> > > You
> > > > > may
> > > > > > >>>> > >> help
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> check
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored
> > CDN
> > > to
> > > > > > >>>> improve
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> speed
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> in
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> China
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are
> > not
> > > > sure
> > > > > > how
> > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send the
> > > > password
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > >>>> > >> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> private
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide
> > > [4]
> > > > > > >>>> depends
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> on
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> password
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial
> > > > PPMCs
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > >>>> > >> had
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> no
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> clear
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide
> > > on
> > > > > each
> > > > > > >>>> of
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> them,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> do
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically,
> > > it's
> > > > > > >>>> decided
> > > > > > >>>> > >> by
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8]
> > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan,
> > > 2018"`
> > > > > on
> > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> master
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > > > >>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > > >>>> > >> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > > dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > > dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> --
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Yi Shen
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > >>>> > >> --
> > > > > > >>>> > >> Yi Shen
> > > > > > >>>> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > > > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>.
Good for me :)
Wait for the community to review.
Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108
Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:39写道：
> Oh, I see..
>
> So the list should be: (15)
> dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> kmcgrail@apache.org Kevin A. McGrail
> ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> tedliu@apache.org Ted Liu
> wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> wave@apache.org Dave Fisher
> wusheng@apache.org Sheng Wu
> zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
>
> Thanks
>
> *Ovilia*
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:34 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The list you provided, should be the PMC list only :)
> > That is the graduation required. Because PMC takes the reasonability for
> > the ECharts.
> >
> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:32写道：
> >
> > > The roaster shows 21 people:
> > > 4 mentors;
> > > 11 PPMC members if not counting mentors (you can count the list of PPMC
> > > (15));
> > > 6 committers if not counting mentors and PPMC members.
> > >
> > > So 15 is the sum of mentors and PPMC members, and "Committers (21)" is
> > the
> > > sum of mentors, PPMC members and non-PPMC committers.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > *Ovilia*
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:26 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am still not following
> > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts Roster shows 15 PPMC
> + 4
> > > > mentors
> > > >
> > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:22写道：
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Sheng,
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry I didn't know mentors should be included. Of course we are
> more
> > > > than
> > > > > willing
> > > > > to include mentors here.
> > > > >
> > > > > After adding mentors, the list has 21 members, which is the same as
> > > > roaster
> > > > > committer
> > > > > number. The number 15 includes mentor but not committers so there
> is
> > no
> > > > > problem
> > > > > here.
> > > > >
> > > > > Updated list of members: (21 people)
> > > > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > > > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > > > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > > > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > > > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > > > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > > > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > > > > kmcgrail@apache.org Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > > > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > > > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > > > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > > > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > > > > tedliu@apache.org Ted Liu
> > > > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > > > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > > > > wave@apache.org Dave Fisher
> > > > > wusheng@apache.org Sheng Wu
> > > > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > > > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > > > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:13 PM Sheng Wu <
> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:08写道：
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > It seems I need to include the initial members and vice
> president
> > > > name
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > vote email.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if we
> take
> > > all
> > > > > > those
> > > > > > > initial
> > > > > > > PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects.
> > > > > > > And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC
> member
> > > list
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So the full list of initial members would be: (email in
> > > alphabetical
> > > > > > order)
> > > > > > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > > > > > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > > > > > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > > > > > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > > > > > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > > > > > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > > > > > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > > > > > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > > > > > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > > > > > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > > > > > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > > > > > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > > > > > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > > > > > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > > > > > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > > > > > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > > > > > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Based on the roaster, you only have 15 PPMC member,
> > > > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts, here is 17
> people.
> > > > Which
> > > > > > side is right?
> > > > > > And, traditionally, mentors should be asked whether to stay in
> the
> > > PMC,
> > > > > > default is yes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > More information on the vice president (chair of the project)
> > from
> > > > [1]:
> > > > > > > > PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members, with
> > one
> > > > vote
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > project matters just like other PMC members. The primary duty
> of
> > a
> > > > PMC
> > > > > > > chair is
> > > > > > > providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and
> > > status
> > > > of
> > > > > > > their project.
> > > > > > > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing
> list,
> > > and
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > aware of
> > > > > > > any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for
> > > working
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > the PMC
> > > > > > > as a whole to address any board concerns.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a
> volunteer.
> > > > During
> > > > > > > incubation,
> > > > > > > I have been helping the community to grow and push things
> > forward.
> > > > And
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > been writing incubation report since then. I would like to
> > continue
> > > > > > > contributing
> > > > > > > and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache
> > > > ECharts a
> > > > > > > better
> > > > > > > community.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +1
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs
> and
> > > you
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start
> our
> > > > vote
> > > > > > > soon.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1]
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> > > > > > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if no one
> > > > > opposes.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <
> oviliazhang@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> Hi,
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and
> > translated
> > > > > tools.
> > > > > > > >> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may have a
> > > further
> > > > > > > >> discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Please check and comment if there's a problem remaining.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1] in
> > > > > dev@echarts
> > > > > > > >> mailing list soon.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> [1]
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <
> oviliazhang@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us with
> > > > > graduation.
> > > > > > We
> > > > > > > >>> really appreciate it.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist is
> [2].
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before we
> start
> > a
> > > > > vote.
> > > > > > So
> > > > > > > >>> please
> > > > > > > >>> tell us if you find something should be changed.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> [1]
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > > > > >>> [2]
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <
> > > max@preset.io
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and
> wanted
> > > to
> > > > > > > >>>> introduce
> > > > > > > >>>> myself and offer some help.
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache
> > Airflow
> > > > (top
> > > > > > > >>>> level)
> > > > > > > >>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset
> > community
> > > > is
> > > > > > > >>>> currently
> > > > > > > >>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50]
> > Proposal
> > > > for
> > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > >>>> ECharts as our main charting library
> > > > > > > >>>> <
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418
> > >,
> > > > > > looking
> > > > > > > >>>> forward to collaborate!
> > > > > > > >>>> <
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts'
> > > graduation
> > > > > > > >>>> process as
> > > > > > > >>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a
> > > > checklist
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >>>> items
> > > > > > > >>>> you're looking for help/support?
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Max
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <
> > > quillqian@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >>>> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF
> > official
> > > > and
> > > > > > > >>>> > community, including:
> > > > > > > >>>> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting
> > external
> > > > > > content
> > > > > > > >>>> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something
> > > like
> > > > > > “this
> > > > > > > >>>> is not
> > > > > > > >>>> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie
> collecting
> > > > > > > >>>> announcement on
> > > > > > > >>>> > websites.
> > > > > > > >>>> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the
> > service
> > > > but
> > > > > > also
> > > > > > > >>>> > stated out builded version can not represent official
> > > version
> > > > > and
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > >>>> is not
> > > > > > > >>>> > for re-distributing.
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >>>> > Quill
> > > > > > > >>>> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will
> use
> > my
> > > > > > > nickname)
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >>>> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com
> >
> > > 写道：
> > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> 下午7:21写道：
> > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The
> download
> > > > > source
> > > > > > > >>>> package
> > > > > > > >>>> > is
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but
> whether
> > > > there
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > >>>> > change
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> or
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't
> know.
> > > And
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > >>>> would
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual
> > confirmation
> > > > > about
> > > > > > > >>>> that, the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF
> requirements.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is the
> > > build
> > > > > > script
> > > > > > > >>>> used
> > > > > > > >>>> > on
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and
> voted.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still
> about
> > > 1.5k
> > > > > > > >>>> developers
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> using this online tool everyday.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these developers
> > to
> > > > > build
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > >>>> > source
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> in local.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > >>>> > > I think you could start a discussion in the
> > > > gerneral@incubator
> > > > > ,
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > >>>> check
> > > > > > > >>>> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than
> > > > removing
> > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal
> > > simulation
> > > > on
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > >>>> page,
> > > > > > > >>>> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at
> > least.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all
> necessary
> > > > env,
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > > >>>> you
> > > > > > > >>>> > just
> > > > > > > >>>> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the
> > > > > pre-requirement
> > > > > > > >>>> env have
> > > > > > > >>>> > > been installed correctly.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > > > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >>>> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> 下午4:14写道：
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Hi, Sheng
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar,
> which
> > > > > > includes
> > > > > > > >>>> all
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only
> that
> > > is
> > > > an
> > > > > > > >>>> official
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is
> > > > > bringing
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>>> local
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> CLI
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> to the web.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> In which developers can
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which
> > have
> > > > > been
> > > > > > > >>>> voted.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the
> browser.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single
> > js
> > > > file
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> browser.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the
> > local
> > > > CLI
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > >>>> all the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> processes are on the browser.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may
> cause
> > > > > > potential
> > > > > > > >>>> risks
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> in
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> it.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The
> download
> > > > > source
> > > > > > > >>>> package
> > > > > > > >>>> > is
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but
> whether
> > > > there
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > >>>> > change
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> or
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't
> know.
> > > And
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > >>>> would
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual
> > confirmation
> > > > > about
> > > > > > > >>>> that, the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF
> requirements.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Regards.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > > > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> > 下午2:52写道：
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the
> > > navigator.
> > > > I
> > > > > > > >>>> thought it
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> meant
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> if there's a
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I
> > > didn't
> > > > > > > realize
> > > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> means
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> link is
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from
> > the
> > > > > > > community,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> something
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> similar
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently
> > > hosted
> > > > > on a
> > > > > > > >>>> Baidu
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> server
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and we don't
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the navigator
> > and
> > > > > list
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> somewhere
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> as
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> a
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> community resource?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of
> > > > > > > >>>> community/ecosystem.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> And
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> not
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend
> > the
> > > > > Apache
> > > > > > > >>>> ECharts.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source release
> > [2]
> > > > and
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> current
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-theme page
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our
> server.
> > Is
> > > > > this
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> problem?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so
> they
> > > are
> > > > > > links
> > > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> related
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> GitHub projects.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction on
> > the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and
> > > catalogs
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > > >>>> links
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> to
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 3rd
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the
> > > bug/security
> > > > > > issue
> > > > > > > >>>> when
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> those
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> extensions have issues.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as
> > > > > > enhancement,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> iteration.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We
> > > didn't
> > > > > > put a
> > > > > > > >>>> "help
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> translate" note because
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to
> > > translate
> > > > > and
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> should
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> be
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> done within a few
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will
> have a
> > > > "(in
> > > > > > > >>>> Chinese)"
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> note
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> in
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the navigator.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether
> > > they
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > > >>>> finish
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> those
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the
> incubator? I
> > > > hope
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > >>>> ease
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> other
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> people's concern.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release
> with
> > > the
> > > > > > least
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> source
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> files
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> required.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is
> not
> > > > using
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>>> source
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> files
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> voted.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to
> get
> > > the
> > > > > > source
> > > > > > > >>>> file
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> from
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Apache SVN
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded?
> > Does
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > >>>> seem to
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> for
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> you?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar,
> > which
> > > > > > includes
> > > > > > > >>>> all
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only
> that
> > > is
> > > > an
> > > > > > > >>>> official
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK.
> Or,
> > > if
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > >>>> prefer
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to
> > > > > repackage
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> source
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> code?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [2]
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [3]
> > > > > https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail
> <
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do
> > > > remember
> > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > >>>> was
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is
> > > > testing
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > >>>> this
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> policy:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link
> > check
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> incubator,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> does
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could
> > compare
> > > it
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese.
> What
> > is
> > > > > that?
> > > > > > > >>>> From
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> my
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> reading,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns
> > (s)
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > >>>> repo?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what
> are
> > > the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> differences
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> between
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember
> there
> > > is
> > > > > any
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> official
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> release
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these.
> > > Could
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> clarify
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> what
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> they
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> are?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding,
> they
> > > are
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> configuration
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese
> > only,
> > > > and
> > > > > do
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> have
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> open
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the
> > > website
> > > > > > > download
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> page,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> how
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it
> breaks
> > > the
> > > > > ASF
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> release
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> process.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not
> > > source,
> > > > no
> > > > > > > >>>> binary)
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> is
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> never
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you
> > > > provide
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> users
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> to
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> get a
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the
> unvoted
> > > > source
> > > > > > > tars
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> make
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> me
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> unsure
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What
> other
> > > > > mentors
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> think?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> > > > 上午10:25写道：
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related
> > > > > documents
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> see
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> if
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> there is
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> something
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <
> > > > > > > >>>> susiwen8@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply
> > all
> > > > > rules
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> most
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification,
> > > since I
> > > > > > > haven't
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> with
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> them,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr
> Lin
> > > > > Zhifeng
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> Mr
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Dong
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Rui
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> had
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts,
> even
> > > > > thought
> > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> haven't
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't
> > change
> > > > the
> > > > > > fact
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> that
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> they
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> have
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming
> they
> > > as
> > > > > PMC
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> future
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> would
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via
> private
> > > mail
> > > > > > list
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> wasn't a
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> great
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone
> else
> > > > would
> > > > > > > >>>> "steal"
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> it,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list
> > > which
> > > > > > lots
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> people
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> how
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org>
> > > 于2020年7月30日周四
> > > > > > > >>>> 下午12:57写道：
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the
> guide
> > of
> > > > > > podling
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> website
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or
> > password
> > > on
> > > > > > email
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> without
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> any
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some
> email
> > > > > clients
> > > > > > > >>>> don’t
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> encrypt
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead
> to
> > a
> > > > leak
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> content
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> if
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it’s
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s
> > > > better
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> enable
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> email
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the
> raw
> > > > > > password
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> any
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> other
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the
> > > email
> > > > by
> > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> advanced
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a
> mailing
> > > > list
> > > > > or
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> elsewhere.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we
> > > should
> > > > > > > always
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> keep
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> founder
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to
> > > ECharts
> > > > > > > >>>> project.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> As I
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project
> improve
> > > and
> > > > > > > develop
> > > > > > > >>>> by
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> his
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <
> > > > > oviliazhang@gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and
> > > > grown a
> > > > > > lot
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> since
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> our
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion
> > > about
> > > > > > > whether
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> are
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> ready
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after
> > this
> > > > > > > >>>> discussion,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> can
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> set
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed
> the
> > > vote
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> undergoing
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the
> > > > > community
> > > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> and
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> now
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6
> > > > > different
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> companies.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and
> we
> > > have
> > > > > 79
> > > > > > > >>>> people
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers
> > > [3];
> > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> guide
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> is
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> at
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project
> > > > during
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> incubation
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> [9]
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is
> > available
> > > > at
> > > > > > [5]
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name
> > > > > searching
> > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> been
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> completed
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo,
> > > > document,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >>>> so
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> on
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> according
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all
> > requirements.
> > > > You
> > > > > > may
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> help
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> check
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a
> sponsored
> > > CDN
> > > > to
> > > > > > > >>>> improve
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> speed
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> in
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> China
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we
> are
> > > not
> > > > > sure
> > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send
> the
> > > > > password
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> private
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release
> > guide
> > > > [4]
> > > > > > > >>>> depends
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> on
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> password
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the
> > initial
> > > > > PPMCs
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> had
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> no
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> clear
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should
> > decide
> > > > on
> > > > > > each
> > > > > > > >>>> of
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> them,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> do
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither.
> Basically,
> > > > it's
> > > > > > > >>>> decided
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> by
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project,
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about
> this.
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin
> https://github.com/chriswong
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8]
> > > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20
> Jan,
> > > > 2018"`
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> master
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > > > > >>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail -
> > 703.798.0171
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > > > dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > > > dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Yi Shen
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> --
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> Yi Shen
> > > > > > > >>>> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>.
Oh, I see..
So the list should be: (15)
dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
kener@apache.org Feng Lin
kmcgrail@apache.org Kevin A. McGrail
ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
tedliu@apache.org Ted Liu
wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
wave@apache.org Dave Fisher
wusheng@apache.org Sheng Wu
zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
Thanks
*Ovilia*
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:34 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The list you provided, should be the PMC list only :)
> That is the graduation required. Because PMC takes the reasonability for
> the ECharts.
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:32写道：
>
> > The roaster shows 21 people:
> > 4 mentors;
> > 11 PPMC members if not counting mentors (you can count the list of PPMC
> > (15));
> > 6 committers if not counting mentors and PPMC members.
> >
> > So 15 is the sum of mentors and PPMC members, and "Committers (21)" is
> the
> > sum of mentors, PPMC members and non-PPMC committers.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > *Ovilia*
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:26 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I am still not following
> > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts Roster shows 15 PPMC + 4
> > > mentors
> > >
> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > >
> > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:22写道：
> > >
> > > > Hi Sheng,
> > > >
> > > > Sorry I didn't know mentors should be included. Of course we are more
> > > than
> > > > willing
> > > > to include mentors here.
> > > >
> > > > After adding mentors, the list has 21 members, which is the same as
> > > roaster
> > > > committer
> > > > number. The number 15 includes mentor but not committers so there is
> no
> > > > problem
> > > > here.
> > > >
> > > > Updated list of members: (21 people)
> > > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > > > kmcgrail@apache.org Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > > > tedliu@apache.org Ted Liu
> > > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > > > wave@apache.org Dave Fisher
> > > > wusheng@apache.org Sheng Wu
> > > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > *Ovilia*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:13 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:08写道：
> > > > >
> > > > > > It seems I need to include the initial members and vice president
> > > name
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > vote email.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if we take
> > all
> > > > > those
> > > > > > initial
> > > > > > PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects.
> > > > > > And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC member
> > list
> > > > and
> > > > > > current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So the full list of initial members would be: (email in
> > alphabetical
> > > > > order)
> > > > > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > > > > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > > > > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > > > > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > > > > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > > > > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > > > > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > > > > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > > > > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > > > > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > > > > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > > > > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > > > > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > > > > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > > > > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > > > > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > > > > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Based on the roaster, you only have 15 PPMC member,
> > > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts, here is 17 people.
> > > Which
> > > > > side is right?
> > > > > And, traditionally, mentors should be asked whether to stay in the
> > PMC,
> > > > > default is yes.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > More information on the vice president (chair of the project)
> from
> > > [1]:
> > > > > > > PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members, with
> one
> > > vote
> > > > > on
> > > > > > project matters just like other PMC members. The primary duty of
> a
> > > PMC
> > > > > > chair is
> > > > > > providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and
> > status
> > > of
> > > > > > their project.
> > > > > > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list,
> > and
> > > > be
> > > > > > aware of
> > > > > > any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for
> > working
> > > > > with
> > > > > > the PMC
> > > > > > as a whole to address any board concerns.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a volunteer.
> > > During
> > > > > > incubation,
> > > > > > I have been helping the community to grow and push things
> forward.
> > > And
> > > > I
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > been writing incubation report since then. I would like to
> continue
> > > > > > contributing
> > > > > > and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache
> > > ECharts a
> > > > > > better
> > > > > > community.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > +1
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and
> > you
> > > > are
> > > > > > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our
> > > vote
> > > > > > soon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> > > > > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if no one
> > > > opposes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <oviliazhang@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Hi,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and
> translated
> > > > tools.
> > > > > > >> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may have a
> > further
> > > > > > >> discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Please check and comment if there's a problem remaining.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1] in
> > > > dev@echarts
> > > > > > >> mailing list soon.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> [1]
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Thanks
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us with
> > > > graduation.
> > > > > We
> > > > > > >>> really appreciate it.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist is [2].
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before we start
> a
> > > > vote.
> > > > > So
> > > > > > >>> please
> > > > > > >>> tell us if you find something should be changed.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> [1]
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > > > >>> [2]
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <
> > max@preset.io
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and wanted
> > to
> > > > > > >>>> introduce
> > > > > > >>>> myself and offer some help.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache
> Airflow
> > > (top
> > > > > > >>>> level)
> > > > > > >>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset
> community
> > > is
> > > > > > >>>> currently
> > > > > > >>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50]
> Proposal
> > > for
> > > > > > using
> > > > > > >>>> ECharts as our main charting library
> > > > > > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418
> >,
> > > > > looking
> > > > > > >>>> forward to collaborate!
> > > > > > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts'
> > graduation
> > > > > > >>>> process as
> > > > > > >>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a
> > > checklist
> > > > > and
> > > > > > >>>> items
> > > > > > >>>> you're looking for help/support?
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Max
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <
> > quillqian@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > >>>> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF
> official
> > > and
> > > > > > >>>> > community, including:
> > > > > > >>>> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting
> external
> > > > > content
> > > > > > >>>> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something
> > like
> > > > > “this
> > > > > > >>>> is not
> > > > > > >>>> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie collecting
> > > > > > >>>> announcement on
> > > > > > >>>> > websites.
> > > > > > >>>> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the
> service
> > > but
> > > > > also
> > > > > > >>>> > stated out builded version can not represent official
> > version
> > > > and
> > > > > it
> > > > > > >>>> is not
> > > > > > >>>> > for re-distributing.
> > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > >>>> > Quill
> > > > > > >>>> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will use
> my
> > > > > > nickname)
> > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > >>>> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > 写道：
> > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > >>>> > > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午7:21写道：
> > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download
> > > > source
> > > > > > >>>> package
> > > > > > >>>> > is
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether
> > > there
> > > > > is
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > >>>> > change
> > > > > > >>>> > >> or
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know.
> > And
> > > > no
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > >>>> would
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual
> confirmation
> > > > about
> > > > > > >>>> that, the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > >>>> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is the
> > build
> > > > > script
> > > > > > >>>> used
> > > > > > >>>> > on
> > > > > > >>>> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and voted.
> > > > > > >>>> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still about
> > 1.5k
> > > > > > >>>> developers
> > > > > > >>>> > >> using this online tool everyday.
> > > > > > >>>> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these developers
> to
> > > > build
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > >>>> > source
> > > > > > >>>> > >> in local.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > >>>> > > I think you could start a discussion in the
> > > gerneral@incubator
> > > > ,
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > >>>> check
> > > > > > >>>> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than
> > > removing
> > > > > it.
> > > > > > >>>> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal
> > simulation
> > > on
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > >>>> page,
> > > > > > >>>> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at
> least.
> > > > > > >>>> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all necessary
> > > env,
> > > > > then
> > > > > > >>>> you
> > > > > > >>>> > just
> > > > > > >>>> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the
> > > > pre-requirement
> > > > > > >>>> env have
> > > > > > >>>> > > been installed correctly.
> > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > >>>> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > >>>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > >>>> > >> Thanks
> > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >>>> > wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道：
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Hi, Sheng
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which
> > > > > includes
> > > > > > >>>> all
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that
> > is
> > > an
> > > > > > >>>> official
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is
> > > > bringing
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >>>> local
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> CLI
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> to the web.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> In which developers can
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which
> have
> > > > been
> > > > > > >>>> voted.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single
> js
> > > file
> > > > > on
> > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> browser.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the
> local
> > > CLI
> > > > is
> > > > > > >>>> all the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> processes are on the browser.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause
> > > > > potential
> > > > > > >>>> risks
> > > > > > >>>> > >> in
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> it.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download
> > > > source
> > > > > > >>>> package
> > > > > > >>>> > is
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether
> > > there
> > > > > is
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > >>>> > change
> > > > > > >>>> > >> or
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know.
> > And
> > > > no
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > >>>> would
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual
> confirmation
> > > > about
> > > > > > >>>> that, the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Regards.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> 下午2:52写道：
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the
> > navigator.
> > > I
> > > > > > >>>> thought it
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> meant
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> if there's a
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I
> > didn't
> > > > > > realize
> > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> means
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> link is
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from
> the
> > > > > > community,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> something
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> similar
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently
> > hosted
> > > > on a
> > > > > > >>>> Baidu
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> server
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and we don't
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the navigator
> and
> > > > list
> > > > > it
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> somewhere
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> as
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> a
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> community resource?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of
> > > > > > >>>> community/ecosystem.
> > > > > > >>>> > >> And
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> not
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend
> the
> > > > Apache
> > > > > > >>>> ECharts.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source release
> [2]
> > > and
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >>>> > >> current
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-theme page
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our server.
> Is
> > > > this
> > > > > a
> > > > > > >>>> > >> problem?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so they
> > are
> > > > > links
> > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> related
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> GitHub projects.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction on
> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and
> > catalogs
> > > > > about
> > > > > > >>>> links
> > > > > > >>>> > >> to
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> 3rd
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the
> > bug/security
> > > > > issue
> > > > > > >>>> when
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> those
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> extensions have issues.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as
> > > > > enhancement,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> iteration.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We
> > didn't
> > > > > put a
> > > > > > >>>> "help
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> translate" note because
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to
> > translate
> > > > and
> > > > > it
> > > > > > >>>> > >> should
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> be
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> done within a few
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a
> > > "(in
> > > > > > >>>> Chinese)"
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> note
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> in
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the navigator.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether
> > they
> > > > > could
> > > > > > >>>> finish
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> those
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I
> > > hope
> > > > to
> > > > > > >>>> ease
> > > > > > >>>> > >> other
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> people's concern.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release with
> > the
> > > > > least
> > > > > > >>>> > >> source
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> files
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> required.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is not
> > > using
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >>>> source
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> files
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> voted.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to get
> > the
> > > > > source
> > > > > > >>>> file
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> from
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Apache SVN
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded?
> Does
> > > > that
> > > > > > >>>> seem to
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> for
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> you?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar,
> which
> > > > > includes
> > > > > > >>>> all
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that
> > is
> > > an
> > > > > > >>>> official
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or,
> > if
> > > > you
> > > > > > >>>> prefer
> > > > > > >>>> > >> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to
> > > > repackage
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >>>> > >> source
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> code?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [1]
> > > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [2]
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [3]
> > > > https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do
> > > remember
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > >>>> was
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is
> > > testing
> > > > > for
> > > > > > >>>> this
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> policy:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link
> check
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> incubator,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> does
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could
> compare
> > it
> > > > > with
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What
> is
> > > > that?
> > > > > > >>>> From
> > > > > > >>>> > >> my
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> reading,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns
> (s)
> > > > this
> > > > > > >>>> repo?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are
> > the
> > > > > > >>>> > >> differences
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> between
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there
> > is
> > > > any
> > > > > > >>>> > >> official
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> release
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these.
> > Could
> > > > you
> > > > > > >>>> > >> clarify
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> what
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> they
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> are?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they
> > are
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> configuration
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese
> only,
> > > and
> > > > do
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> have
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> open
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the
> > website
> > > > > > download
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> page,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> how
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks
> > the
> > > > ASF
> > > > > > >>>> > >> release
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> process.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not
> > source,
> > > no
> > > > > > >>>> binary)
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> is
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> never
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you
> > > provide
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >>>> > >> users
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> to
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> get a
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted
> > > source
> > > > > > tars
> > > > > > >>>> > >> make
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> me
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> unsure
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other
> > > > mentors
> > > > > > >>>> > >> think?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> > > 上午10:25写道：
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related
> > > > documents
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > >>>> > >> see
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> if
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> there is
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> something
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <
> > > > > > >>>> susiwen8@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply
> all
> > > > rules
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> most
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification,
> > since I
> > > > > > haven't
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> with
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> them,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin
> > > > Zhifeng
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > >>>> > >> Mr
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Dong
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Rui
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> had
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even
> > > > thought
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> haven't
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't
> change
> > > the
> > > > > fact
> > > > > > >>>> > >> that
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> they
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> have
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they
> > as
> > > > PMC
> > > > > in
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> future
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> would
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> be
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via private
> > mail
> > > > > list
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> wasn't a
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> great
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else
> > > would
> > > > > > >>>> "steal"
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> it,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list
> > which
> > > > > lots
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> people
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> how
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org>
> > 于2020年7月30日周四
> > > > > > >>>> 下午12:57写道：
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the guide
> of
> > > > > podling
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> website
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or
> password
> > on
> > > > > email
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> without
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> any
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email
> > > > clients
> > > > > > >>>> don’t
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> encrypt
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead to
> a
> > > leak
> > > > > of
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> content
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> if
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it’s
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s
> > > better
> > > > to
> > > > > > >>>> > >> enable
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> email
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw
> > > > > password
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > >>>> > >> any
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> other
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the
> > email
> > > by
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> advanced
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing
> > > list
> > > > or
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> elsewhere.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we
> > should
> > > > > > always
> > > > > > >>>> > >> keep
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> founder
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to
> > ECharts
> > > > > > >>>> project.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> As I
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve
> > and
> > > > > > develop
> > > > > > >>>> by
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> his
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <
> > > > oviliazhang@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>>> > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and
> > > grown a
> > > > > lot
> > > > > > >>>> > >> since
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> our
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion
> > about
> > > > > > whether
> > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> are
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> ready
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after
> this
> > > > > > >>>> discussion,
> > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> can
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> set
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the
> > vote
> > > > and
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> undergoing
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the
> > > > community
> > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > >>>> > >> and
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> now
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6
> > > > different
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> companies.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we
> > have
> > > > 79
> > > > > > >>>> people
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers
> > [3];
> > > > > > release
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> guide
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> is
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> at
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project
> > > during
> > > > > > >>>> > >> incubation
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> [9]
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is
> available
> > > at
> > > > > [5]
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name
> > > > searching
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> been
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> completed
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo,
> > > document,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > >>>> so
> > > > > > >>>> > >> on
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> according
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all
> requirements.
> > > You
> > > > > may
> > > > > > >>>> > >> help
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> check
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored
> > CDN
> > > to
> > > > > > >>>> improve
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> speed
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> in
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> China
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are
> > not
> > > > sure
> > > > > > how
> > > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send the
> > > > password
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > >>>> > >> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> private
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release
> guide
> > > [4]
> > > > > > >>>> depends
> > > > > > >>>> > >>> on
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> password
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the
> initial
> > > > PPMCs
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > >>>> > >> had
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> no
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> clear
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should
> decide
> > > on
> > > > > each
> > > > > > >>>> of
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> them,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> do
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically,
> > > it's
> > > > > > >>>> decided
> > > > > > >>>> > >> by
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project,
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8]
> > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan,
> > > 2018"`
> > > > > on
> > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> master
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > > > >>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > > >>>> > >> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail -
> 703.798.0171
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > > dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > > dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> --
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Yi Shen
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > >>>> > >> --
> > > > > > >>>> > >> Yi Shen
> > > > > > >>>> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>.
The list you provided, should be the PMC list only :)
That is the graduation required. Because PMC takes the reasonability for
the ECharts.
Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108
Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:32写道：
> The roaster shows 21 people:
> 4 mentors;
> 11 PPMC members if not counting mentors (you can count the list of PPMC
> (15));
> 6 committers if not counting mentors and PPMC members.
>
> So 15 is the sum of mentors and PPMC members, and "Committers (21)" is the
> sum of mentors, PPMC members and non-PPMC committers.
>
> Thanks
>
> *Ovilia*
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:26 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I am still not following
> > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts Roster shows 15 PPMC + 4
> > mentors
> >
> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:22写道：
> >
> > > Hi Sheng,
> > >
> > > Sorry I didn't know mentors should be included. Of course we are more
> > than
> > > willing
> > > to include mentors here.
> > >
> > > After adding mentors, the list has 21 members, which is the same as
> > roaster
> > > committer
> > > number. The number 15 includes mentor but not committers so there is no
> > > problem
> > > here.
> > >
> > > Updated list of members: (21 people)
> > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > > kmcgrail@apache.org Kevin A. McGrail
> > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > > tedliu@apache.org Ted Liu
> > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > > wave@apache.org Dave Fisher
> > > wusheng@apache.org Sheng Wu
> > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > *Ovilia*
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:13 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:08写道：
> > > >
> > > > > It seems I need to include the initial members and vice president
> > name
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > vote email.
> > > > >
> > > > > Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if we take
> all
> > > > those
> > > > > initial
> > > > > PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects.
> > > > > And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC member
> list
> > > and
> > > > > current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts.
> > > > >
> > > > > So the full list of initial members would be: (email in
> alphabetical
> > > > order)
> > > > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > > > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > > > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > > > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > > > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > > > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > > > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > > > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > > > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > > > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > > > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > > > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > > > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > > > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > > > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > > > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > > > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Based on the roaster, you only have 15 PPMC member,
> > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts, here is 17 people.
> > Which
> > > > side is right?
> > > > And, traditionally, mentors should be asked whether to stay in the
> PMC,
> > > > default is yes.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > More information on the vice president (chair of the project) from
> > [1]:
> > > > > > PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members, with one
> > vote
> > > > on
> > > > > project matters just like other PMC members. The primary duty of a
> > PMC
> > > > > chair is
> > > > > providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and
> status
> > of
> > > > > their project.
> > > > > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list,
> and
> > > be
> > > > > aware of
> > > > > any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for
> working
> > > > with
> > > > > the PMC
> > > > > as a whole to address any board concerns.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a volunteer.
> > During
> > > > > incubation,
> > > > > I have been helping the community to grow and push things forward.
> > And
> > > I
> > > > > have
> > > > > been writing incubation report since then. I would like to continue
> > > > > contributing
> > > > > and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache
> > ECharts a
> > > > > better
> > > > > community.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > +1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and
> you
> > > are
> > > > > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our
> > vote
> > > > > soon.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> > > > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if no one
> > > opposes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and translated
> > > tools.
> > > > > >> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may have a
> further
> > > > > >> discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Please check and comment if there's a problem remaining.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1] in
> > > dev@echarts
> > > > > >> mailing list soon.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> [1]
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thanks
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> *Ovilia*
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us with
> > > graduation.
> > > > We
> > > > > >>> really appreciate it.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist is [2].
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before we start a
> > > vote.
> > > > So
> > > > > >>> please
> > > > > >>> tell us if you find something should be changed.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> [1]
> > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > > >>> [2]
> > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <
> max@preset.io
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and wanted
> to
> > > > > >>>> introduce
> > > > > >>>> myself and offer some help.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache Airflow
> > (top
> > > > > >>>> level)
> > > > > >>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset community
> > is
> > > > > >>>> currently
> > > > > >>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50] Proposal
> > for
> > > > > using
> > > > > >>>> ECharts as our main charting library
> > > > > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>,
> > > > looking
> > > > > >>>> forward to collaborate!
> > > > > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts'
> graduation
> > > > > >>>> process as
> > > > > >>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a
> > checklist
> > > > and
> > > > > >>>> items
> > > > > >>>> you're looking for help/support?
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Max
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <
> quillqian@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF official
> > and
> > > > > >>>> > community, including:
> > > > > >>>> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting external
> > > > content
> > > > > >>>> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something
> like
> > > > “this
> > > > > >>>> is not
> > > > > >>>> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie collecting
> > > > > >>>> announcement on
> > > > > >>>> > websites.
> > > > > >>>> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the service
> > but
> > > > also
> > > > > >>>> > stated out builded version can not represent official
> version
> > > and
> > > > it
> > > > > >>>> is not
> > > > > >>>> > for re-distributing.
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> > Quill
> > > > > >>>> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will use my
> > > > > nickname)
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> 写道：
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午7:21写道：
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download
> > > source
> > > > > >>>> package
> > > > > >>>> > is
> > > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether
> > there
> > > > is
> > > > > a
> > > > > >>>> > change
> > > > > >>>> > >> or
> > > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know.
> And
> > > no
> > > > > one
> > > > > >>>> would
> > > > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation
> > > about
> > > > > >>>> that, the
> > > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > >>>> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is the
> build
> > > > script
> > > > > >>>> used
> > > > > >>>> > on
> > > > > >>>> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and voted.
> > > > > >>>> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still about
> 1.5k
> > > > > >>>> developers
> > > > > >>>> > >> using this online tool everyday.
> > > > > >>>> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these developers to
> > > build
> > > > > from
> > > > > >>>> > source
> > > > > >>>> > >> in local.
> > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > > I think you could start a discussion in the
> > gerneral@incubator
> > > ,
> > > > > to
> > > > > >>>> check
> > > > > >>>> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than
> > removing
> > > > it.
> > > > > >>>> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal
> simulation
> > on
> > > > > that
> > > > > >>>> page,
> > > > > >>>> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at least.
> > > > > >>>> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all necessary
> > env,
> > > > then
> > > > > >>>> you
> > > > > >>>> > just
> > > > > >>>> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the
> > > pre-requirement
> > > > > >>>> env have
> > > > > >>>> > > been installed correctly.
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > >>>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > >>>> > >> Thanks
> > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > >>>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>>> > wrote:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道：
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> Hi, Sheng
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which
> > > > includes
> > > > > >>>> all
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that
> is
> > an
> > > > > >>>> official
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is
> > > bringing
> > > > > the
> > > > > >>>> local
> > > > > >>>> > >>> CLI
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> to the web.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> In which developers can
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have
> > > been
> > > > > >>>> voted.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js
> > file
> > > > on
> > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>> browser.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the local
> > CLI
> > > is
> > > > > >>>> all the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> processes are on the browser.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause
> > > > potential
> > > > > >>>> risks
> > > > > >>>> > >> in
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> it.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download
> > > source
> > > > > >>>> package
> > > > > >>>> > is
> > > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether
> > there
> > > > is
> > > > > a
> > > > > >>>> > change
> > > > > >>>> > >> or
> > > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know.
> And
> > > no
> > > > > one
> > > > > >>>> would
> > > > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation
> > > about
> > > > > >>>> that, the
> > > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > >>>> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> Regards.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>>> > >>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道：
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the
> navigator.
> > I
> > > > > >>>> thought it
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> meant
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> if there's a
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I
> didn't
> > > > > realize
> > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > >>>> > >>> means
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> link is
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the
> > > > > community,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> something
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> similar
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently
> hosted
> > > on a
> > > > > >>>> Baidu
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> server
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and we don't
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the navigator and
> > > list
> > > > it
> > > > > >>>> > >>> somewhere
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> as
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> a
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> community resource?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of
> > > > > >>>> community/ecosystem.
> > > > > >>>> > >> And
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> not
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the
> > > Apache
> > > > > >>>> ECharts.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2]
> > and
> > > > the
> > > > > >>>> > >> current
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-theme page
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is
> > > this
> > > > a
> > > > > >>>> > >> problem?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so they
> are
> > > > links
> > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> related
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> GitHub projects.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and
> catalogs
> > > > about
> > > > > >>>> links
> > > > > >>>> > >> to
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> 3rd
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the
> bug/security
> > > > issue
> > > > > >>>> when
> > > > > >>>> > >>> those
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> extensions have issues.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as
> > > > enhancement,
> > > > > >>>> > >>> iteration.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We
> didn't
> > > > put a
> > > > > >>>> "help
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> translate" note because
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to
> translate
> > > and
> > > > it
> > > > > >>>> > >> should
> > > > > >>>> > >>> be
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> done within a few
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a
> > "(in
> > > > > >>>> Chinese)"
> > > > > >>>> > >>> note
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> in
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the navigator.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether
> they
> > > > could
> > > > > >>>> finish
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> those
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I
> > hope
> > > to
> > > > > >>>> ease
> > > > > >>>> > >> other
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> people's concern.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release with
> the
> > > > least
> > > > > >>>> > >> source
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> files
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> required.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is not
> > using
> > > > the
> > > > > >>>> source
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> files
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> voted.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to get
> the
> > > > source
> > > > > >>>> file
> > > > > >>>> > >>> from
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Apache SVN
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does
> > > that
> > > > > >>>> seem to
> > > > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> for
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> you?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which
> > > > includes
> > > > > >>>> all
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that
> is
> > an
> > > > > >>>> official
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or,
> if
> > > you
> > > > > >>>> prefer
> > > > > >>>> > >> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to
> > > repackage
> > > > > the
> > > > > >>>> > >> source
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> code?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [1]
> > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [2]
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [3]
> > > https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
> > > > > >>>> > >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do
> > remember
> > > > > there
> > > > > >>>> was
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is
> > testing
> > > > for
> > > > > >>>> this
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> policy:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link check
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> incubator,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> does
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could compare
> it
> > > > with
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is
> > > that?
> > > > > >>>> From
> > > > > >>>> > >> my
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> reading,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s)
> > > this
> > > > > >>>> repo?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are
> the
> > > > > >>>> > >> differences
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> between
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there
> is
> > > any
> > > > > >>>> > >> official
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> release
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these.
> Could
> > > you
> > > > > >>>> > >> clarify
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> what
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> they
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> are?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they
> are
> > > > > >>>> > >>> configuration
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only,
> > and
> > > do
> > > > > you
> > > > > >>>> > >>> have
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> open
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the
> website
> > > > > download
> > > > > >>>> > >>> page,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> how
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks
> the
> > > ASF
> > > > > >>>> > >> release
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> process.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not
> source,
> > no
> > > > > >>>> binary)
> > > > > >>>> > >>> is
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> never
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you
> > provide
> > > > the
> > > > > >>>> > >> users
> > > > > >>>> > >>> to
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> get a
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted
> > source
> > > > > tars
> > > > > >>>> > >> make
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> me
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> unsure
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other
> > > mentors
> > > > > >>>> > >> think?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> > 上午10:25写道：
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related
> > > documents
> > > > > and
> > > > > >>>> > >> see
> > > > > >>>> > >>> if
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> there is
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> something
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <
> > > > > >>>> susiwen8@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all
> > > rules
> > > > > of
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> most
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification,
> since I
> > > > > haven't
> > > > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> with
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> them,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin
> > > Zhifeng
> > > > > and
> > > > > >>>> > >> Mr
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> Dong
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Rui
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> had
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even
> > > thought
> > > > > they
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> haven't
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't change
> > the
> > > > fact
> > > > > >>>> > >> that
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> they
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> have
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they
> as
> > > PMC
> > > > in
> > > > > >>>> > >>> future
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> would
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> be
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via private
> mail
> > > > list
> > > > > >>>> > >>> wasn't a
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> great
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else
> > would
> > > > > >>>> "steal"
> > > > > >>>> > >>> it,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list
> which
> > > > lots
> > > > > of
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> people
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> how
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org>
> 于2020年7月30日周四
> > > > > >>>> 下午12:57写道：
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of
> > > > podling
> > > > > >>>> > >>> website
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> and
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password
> on
> > > > email
> > > > > >>>> > >>> without
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> any
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email
> > > clients
> > > > > >>>> don’t
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> encrypt
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead to a
> > leak
> > > > of
> > > > > >>>> > >>> content
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> if
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it’s
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s
> > better
> > > to
> > > > > >>>> > >> enable
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> email
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw
> > > > password
> > > > > or
> > > > > >>>> > >> any
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> other
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the
> email
> > by
> > > > > some
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> advanced
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing
> > list
> > > or
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> elsewhere.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we
> should
> > > > > always
> > > > > >>>> > >> keep
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> founder
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to
> ECharts
> > > > > >>>> project.
> > > > > >>>> > >>> As I
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve
> and
> > > > > develop
> > > > > >>>> by
> > > > > >>>> > >>> his
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <
> > > oviliazhang@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > >>>> > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and
> > grown a
> > > > lot
> > > > > >>>> > >> since
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> our
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion
> about
> > > > > whether
> > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> are
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> ready
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this
> > > > > >>>> discussion,
> > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> can
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> set
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the
> vote
> > > and
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> undergoing
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the
> > > community
> > > > > [1]
> > > > > >>>> > >> and
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> now
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6
> > > different
> > > > > >>>> > >>> companies.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we
> have
> > > 79
> > > > > >>>> people
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers
> [3];
> > > > > release
> > > > > >>>> > >>> guide
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> is
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> at
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project
> > during
> > > > > >>>> > >> incubation
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> [9]
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available
> > at
> > > > [5]
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name
> > > searching
> > > > > has
> > > > > >>>> > >>> been
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> completed
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo,
> > document,
> > > > and
> > > > > >>>> so
> > > > > >>>> > >> on
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> according
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements.
> > You
> > > > may
> > > > > >>>> > >> help
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> check
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored
> CDN
> > to
> > > > > >>>> improve
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> speed
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> in
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> China
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are
> not
> > > sure
> > > > > how
> > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send the
> > > password
> > > > > on
> > > > > >>>> > >> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> private
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide
> > [4]
> > > > > >>>> depends
> > > > > >>>> > >>> on
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> password
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial
> > > PPMCs
> > > > > that
> > > > > >>>> > >> had
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> no
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> clear
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide
> > on
> > > > each
> > > > > >>>> of
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> them,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> do
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> we
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically,
> > it's
> > > > > >>>> decided
> > > > > >>>> > >> by
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8]
> > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan,
> > 2018"`
> > > > on
> > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> master
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > > >>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > >>>> > >> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> --
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> Yi Shen
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > >>>> > >> --
> > > > > >>>> > >> Yi Shen
> > > > > >>>> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail:
> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>.
Ted said that he is too busy and it would be better to remove him from the
list.
Thanks
*Ovilia*
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:36 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would like to ask Dave, Kevin, Sheng, and Ted if you wish to stay in the
> list.
> That would be an honor to us.
>
> Ted said he was too busy to get involved a few weeks ago. I will check
> with him
> again to see if he is interested.
>
> Thanks
>
> *Ovilia*
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:32 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The roaster shows 21 people:
>> 4 mentors;
>> 11 PPMC members if not counting mentors (you can count the list of PPMC
>> (15));
>> 6 committers if not counting mentors and PPMC members.
>>
>> So 15 is the sum of mentors and PPMC members, and "Committers (21)" is the
>> sum of mentors, PPMC members and non-PPMC committers.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> *Ovilia*
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:26 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am still not following
>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts Roster shows 15 PPMC + 4
>>> mentors
>>>
>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>
>>>
>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:22写道：
>>>
>>> > Hi Sheng,
>>> >
>>> > Sorry I didn't know mentors should be included. Of course we are more
>>> than
>>> > willing
>>> > to include mentors here.
>>> >
>>> > After adding mentors, the list has 21 members, which is the same as
>>> roaster
>>> > committer
>>> > number. The number 15 includes mentor but not committers so there is no
>>> > problem
>>> > here.
>>> >
>>> > Updated list of members: (21 people)
>>> > chfw@apache.org Jaska
>>> > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
>>> > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
>>> > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
>>> > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
>>> > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
>>> > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
>>> > kmcgrail@apache.org Kevin A. McGrail
>>> > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
>>> > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
>>> > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
>>> > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
>>> > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
>>> > tedliu@apache.org Ted Liu
>>> > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
>>> > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
>>> > wave@apache.org Dave Fisher
>>> > wusheng@apache.org Sheng Wu
>>> > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
>>> > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
>>> > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> >
>>> > *Ovilia*
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:13 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:08写道：
>>> > >
>>> > > > It seems I need to include the initial members and vice president
>>> name
>>> > in
>>> > > > the
>>> > > > vote email.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if we take
>>> all
>>> > > those
>>> > > > initial
>>> > > > PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects.
>>> > > > And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC member
>>> list
>>> > and
>>> > > > current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > So the full list of initial members would be: (email in
>>> alphabetical
>>> > > order)
>>> > > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
>>> > > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
>>> > > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
>>> > > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
>>> > > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
>>> > > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
>>> > > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
>>> > > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
>>> > > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
>>> > > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
>>> > > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
>>> > > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
>>> > > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
>>> > > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
>>> > > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
>>> > > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
>>> > > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Based on the roaster, you only have 15 PPMC member,
>>> > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts, here is 17 people.
>>> Which
>>> > > side is right?
>>> > > And, traditionally, mentors should be asked whether to stay in the
>>> PMC,
>>> > > default is yes.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > More information on the vice president (chair of the project) from
>>> [1]:
>>> > > > > PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members, with one
>>> vote
>>> > > on
>>> > > > project matters just like other PMC members. The primary duty of a
>>> PMC
>>> > > > chair is
>>> > > > providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and
>>> status of
>>> > > > their project.
>>> > > > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list,
>>> and
>>> > be
>>> > > > aware of
>>> > > > any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for
>>> working
>>> > > with
>>> > > > the PMC
>>> > > > as a whole to address any board concerns.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a volunteer.
>>> During
>>> > > > incubation,
>>> > > > I have been helping the community to grow and push things forward.
>>> And
>>> > I
>>> > > > have
>>> > > > been writing incubation report since then. I would like to continue
>>> > > > contributing
>>> > > > and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache
>>> ECharts a
>>> > > > better
>>> > > > community.
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > > +1
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and
>>> you
>>> > are
>>> > > > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our
>>> vote
>>> > > > soon.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
>>> > > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Thanks
>>> > > >
>>> > > > *Ovilia*
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if no one
>>> > opposes.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Thanks
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > *Ovilia*
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >> Hi,
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and translated
>>> > tools.
>>> > > > >> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may have a
>>> further
>>> > > > >> discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> Please check and comment if there's a problem remaining.
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1] in
>>> > dev@echarts
>>> > > > >> mailing list soon.
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> [1]
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> Thanks
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> *Ovilia*
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us with
>>> > graduation.
>>> > > We
>>> > > > >>> really appreciate it.
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist is [2].
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before we start a
>>> > vote.
>>> > > So
>>> > > > >>> please
>>> > > > >>> tell us if you find something should be changed.
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>> [1]
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
>>> > > > >>> [2]
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>> Thanks
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>> *Ovilia*
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <
>>> max@preset.io>
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and wanted
>>> to
>>> > > > >>>> introduce
>>> > > > >>>> myself and offer some help.
>>> > > > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache Airflow
>>> (top
>>> > > > >>>> level)
>>> > > > >>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset
>>> community is
>>> > > > >>>> currently
>>> > > > >>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50]
>>> Proposal for
>>> > > > using
>>> > > > >>>> ECharts as our main charting library
>>> > > > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>,
>>> > > looking
>>> > > > >>>> forward to collaborate!
>>> > > > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
>>> > > > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts'
>>> graduation
>>> > > > >>>> process as
>>> > > > >>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a
>>> checklist
>>> > > and
>>> > > > >>>> items
>>> > > > >>>> you're looking for help/support?
>>> > > > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> Thanks,
>>> > > > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> Max
>>> > > > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <
>>> quillqian@gmail.com>
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > > > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> >
>>> > > > >>>> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF
>>> official and
>>> > > > >>>> > community, including:
>>> > > > >>>> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting external
>>> > > content
>>> > > > >>>> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something
>>> like
>>> > > “this
>>> > > > >>>> is not
>>> > > > >>>> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie collecting
>>> > > > >>>> announcement on
>>> > > > >>>> > websites.
>>> > > > >>>> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the service
>>> but
>>> > > also
>>> > > > >>>> > stated out builded version can not represent official
>>> version
>>> > and
>>> > > it
>>> > > > >>>> is not
>>> > > > >>>> > for re-distributing.
>>> > > > >>>> >
>>> > > > >>>> > Quill
>>> > > > >>>> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will use my
>>> > > > nickname)
>>> > > > >>>> >
>>> > > > >>>> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
>>> 写道：
>>> > > > >>>> > >
>>> > > > >>>> > > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午7:21写道：
>>> > > > >>>> > >
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download
>>> > source
>>> > > > >>>> package
>>> > > > >>>> > is
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether
>>> there
>>> > > is
>>> > > > a
>>> > > > >>>> > change
>>> > > > >>>> > >> or
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know.
>>> And
>>> > no
>>> > > > one
>>> > > > >>>> would
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> check.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation
>>> > about
>>> > > > >>>> that, the
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>
>>> > > > >>>> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is the
>>> build
>>> > > script
>>> > > > >>>> used
>>> > > > >>>> > on
>>> > > > >>>> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and voted.
>>> > > > >>>> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still about
>>> 1.5k
>>> > > > >>>> developers
>>> > > > >>>> > >> using this online tool everyday.
>>> > > > >>>> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these developers to
>>> > build
>>> > > > from
>>> > > > >>>> > source
>>> > > > >>>> > >> in local.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>
>>> > > > >>>> > >
>>> > > > >>>> > > I think you could start a discussion in the
>>> gerneral@incubator
>>> > ,
>>> > > > to
>>> > > > >>>> check
>>> > > > >>>> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than
>>> removing
>>> > > it.
>>> > > > >>>> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal
>>> simulation on
>>> > > > that
>>> > > > >>>> page,
>>> > > > >>>> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at least.
>>> > > > >>>> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all necessary
>>> env,
>>> > > then
>>> > > > >>>> you
>>> > > > >>>> > just
>>> > > > >>>> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the
>>> > pre-requirement
>>> > > > >>>> env have
>>> > > > >>>> > > been installed correctly.
>>> > > > >>>> > >
>>> > > > >>>> > >
>>> > > > >>>> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>> > > > >>>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
>>> > > > >>>> > >
>>> > > > >>>> > >
>>> > > > >>>> > >>
>>> > > > >>>> > >> Thanks
>>> > > > >>>> > >>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <
>>> > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
>>> > > > >>>> > wrote:
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道：
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> Hi, Sheng
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which
>>> > > includes
>>> > > > >>>> all
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that
>>> is an
>>> > > > >>>> official
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is
>>> > bringing
>>> > > > the
>>> > > > >>>> local
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> CLI
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> to the web.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> In which developers can
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have
>>> > been
>>> > > > >>>> voted.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js
>>> file
>>> > > on
>>> > > > >>>> the
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> browser.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the local
>>> CLI
>>> > is
>>> > > > >>>> all the
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> processes are on the browser.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause
>>> > > potential
>>> > > > >>>> risks
>>> > > > >>>> > >> in
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> it.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download
>>> > source
>>> > > > >>>> package
>>> > > > >>>> > is
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether
>>> there
>>> > > is
>>> > > > a
>>> > > > >>>> > change
>>> > > > >>>> > >> or
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know.
>>> And
>>> > no
>>> > > > one
>>> > > > >>>> would
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> check.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation
>>> > about
>>> > > > >>>> that, the
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> Regards.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <
>>> > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> wrote:
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道：
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the
>>> navigator. I
>>> > > > >>>> thought it
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> meant
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> if there's a
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I
>>> didn't
>>> > > > realize
>>> > > > >>>> it
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> means
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> link is
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the
>>> > > > community,
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> something
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> similar
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently
>>> hosted
>>> > on a
>>> > > > >>>> Baidu
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> server
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and we don't
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the navigator and
>>> > list
>>> > > it
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> somewhere
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> as
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> a
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> community resource?
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of
>>> > > > >>>> community/ecosystem.
>>> > > > >>>> > >> And
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> not
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the
>>> > Apache
>>> > > > >>>> ECharts.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source release
>>> [2] and
>>> > > the
>>> > > > >>>> > >> current
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-theme page
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is
>>> > this
>>> > > a
>>> > > > >>>> > >> problem?
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so they
>>> are
>>> > > links
>>> > > > >>>> to
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> related
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> GitHub projects.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and
>>> catalogs
>>> > > about
>>> > > > >>>> links
>>> > > > >>>> > >> to
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> 3rd
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the
>>> bug/security
>>> > > issue
>>> > > > >>>> when
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> those
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> extensions have issues.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as
>>> > > enhancement,
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> iteration.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We
>>> didn't
>>> > > put a
>>> > > > >>>> "help
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> translate" note because
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to
>>> translate
>>> > and
>>> > > it
>>> > > > >>>> > >> should
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> be
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> done within a few
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a
>>> "(in
>>> > > > >>>> Chinese)"
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> note
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> in
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the navigator.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether
>>> they
>>> > > could
>>> > > > >>>> finish
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> those
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I
>>> hope
>>> > to
>>> > > > >>>> ease
>>> > > > >>>> > >> other
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> people's concern.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release with
>>> the
>>> > > least
>>> > > > >>>> > >> source
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> files
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> required.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is not
>>> using
>>> > > the
>>> > > > >>>> source
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> files
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> voted.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to get
>>> the
>>> > > source
>>> > > > >>>> file
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> from
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Apache SVN
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does
>>> > that
>>> > > > >>>> seem to
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> work
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> for
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> you?
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which
>>> > > includes
>>> > > > >>>> all
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that
>>> is an
>>> > > > >>>> official
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or,
>>> if
>>> > you
>>> > > > >>>> prefer
>>> > > > >>>> > >> the
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to
>>> > repackage
>>> > > > the
>>> > > > >>>> > >> source
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> code?
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [1]
>>> > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [2]
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>>
>>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [3]
>>> > https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> wrote:
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do
>>> remember
>>> > > > there
>>> > > > >>>> was
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is
>>> testing
>>> > > for
>>> > > > >>>> this
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> policy:
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link
>>> check in
>>> > > the
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> incubator,
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> does
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could compare
>>> it
>>> > > with
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is
>>> > that?
>>> > > > >>>> From
>>> > > > >>>> > >> my
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> reading,
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s)
>>> > this
>>> > > > >>>> repo?
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are
>>> the
>>> > > > >>>> > >> differences
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> between
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there
>>> is
>>> > any
>>> > > > >>>> > >> official
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> release
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these.
>>> Could
>>> > you
>>> > > > >>>> > >> clarify
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> what
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> they
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> are?
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they
>>> are
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> configuration
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only,
>>> and
>>> > do
>>> > > > you
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> have
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> open
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools?
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the
>>> website
>>> > > > download
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> page,
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> how
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks
>>> the
>>> > ASF
>>> > > > >>>> > >> release
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> process.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not
>>> source, no
>>> > > > >>>> binary)
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> is
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> never
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you
>>> provide
>>> > > the
>>> > > > >>>> > >> users
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> to
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> get a
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted
>>> source
>>> > > > tars
>>> > > > >>>> > >> make
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> me
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> unsure
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other
>>> > mentors
>>> > > > >>>> > >> think?
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
>>> 上午10:25写道：
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related
>>> > documents
>>> > > > and
>>> > > > >>>> > >> see
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> if
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> there is
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> something
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <
>>> > > > >>>> susiwen8@gmail.com>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> wrote:
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all
>>> > rules
>>> > > > of
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache,
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> most
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification,
>>> since I
>>> > > > haven't
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> work
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> with
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> them,
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin
>>> > Zhifeng
>>> > > > and
>>> > > > >>>> > >> Mr
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> Dong
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Rui
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> had
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even
>>> > thought
>>> > > > they
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> haven't
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't change
>>> the
>>> > > fact
>>> > > > >>>> > >> that
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> they
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> have
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they
>>> as
>>> > PMC
>>> > > in
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> future
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> would
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> be
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via private
>>> mail
>>> > > list
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> wasn't a
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> great
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else
>>> would
>>> > > > >>>> "steal"
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> it,
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list
>>> which
>>> > > lots
>>> > > > of
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> people
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> how
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org>
>>> 于2020年7月30日周四
>>> > > > >>>> 下午12:57写道：
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of
>>> > > podling
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> website
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> and
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> is
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password
>>> on
>>> > > email
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> without
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> any
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email
>>> > clients
>>> > > > >>>> don’t
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> encrypt
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> the
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead to a
>>> leak
>>> > > of
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> content
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> if
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it’s
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s
>>> better
>>> > to
>>> > > > >>>> > >> enable
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> email
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw
>>> > > password
>>> > > > or
>>> > > > >>>> > >> any
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> other
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the
>>> email by
>>> > > > some
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> advanced
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing
>>> list
>>> > or
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> elsewhere.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we
>>> should
>>> > > > always
>>> > > > >>>> > >> keep
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> the
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> founder
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to
>>> ECharts
>>> > > > >>>> project.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> As I
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know,
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve
>>> and
>>> > > > develop
>>> > > > >>>> by
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> his
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <
>>> > oviliazhang@gmail.com
>>> > > >
>>> > > > >>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and
>>> grown a
>>> > > lot
>>> > > > >>>> > >> since
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> our
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion
>>> about
>>> > > > whether
>>> > > > >>>> > >> we
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> are
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> ready
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this
>>> > > > >>>> discussion,
>>> > > > >>>> > >> we
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> can
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> set
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the
>>> vote
>>> > and
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> undergoing
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the
>>> > community
>>> > > > [1]
>>> > > > >>>> > >> and
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> now
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6
>>> > different
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> companies.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we
>>> have
>>> > 79
>>> > > > >>>> people
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> to
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers
>>> [3];
>>> > > > release
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> guide
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> is
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> at
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [4]
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project
>>> during
>>> > > > >>>> > >> incubation
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> [9]
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is
>>> available at
>>> > > [5]
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name
>>> > searching
>>> > > > has
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> been
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> completed
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo,
>>> document,
>>> > > and
>>> > > > >>>> so
>>> > > > >>>> > >> on
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> according
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all
>>> requirements. You
>>> > > may
>>> > > > >>>> > >> help
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> check
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> the
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored
>>> CDN to
>>> > > > >>>> improve
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> speed
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> in
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> China
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are
>>> not
>>> > sure
>>> > > > how
>>> > > > >>>> > >> we
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send the
>>> > password
>>> > > > on
>>> > > > >>>> > >> the
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> private
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release
>>> guide [4]
>>> > > > >>>> depends
>>> > > > >>>> > >>> on
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> password
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial
>>> > PPMCs
>>> > > > that
>>> > > > >>>> > >> had
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> no
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> clear
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should
>>> decide on
>>> > > each
>>> > > > >>>> of
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> them,
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> do
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> we
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically,
>>> it's
>>> > > > >>>> decided
>>> > > > >>>> > >> by
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> the
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project,
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>> https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>>> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>
>>> > > > >>>> >
>>> > > > >>>>
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>
>>> > > > >>>> >
>>> > > > >>>>
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>
>>> > > > >>>> >
>>> > > > >>>>
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8]
>>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan,
>>> 2018"`
>>> > > on
>>> > > > >>>> the
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> master
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>
>>> > > > >>>>
>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>>> > > > >>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
>>> > > > >>>> > >> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> --
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>>> > > > >>>>
>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>>> > > dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
>>> > > > dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> --
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> Yi Shen
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>
>>> > > > >>>> > >>
>>> > > > >>>> > >> --
>>> > > > >>>> > >> Yi Shen
>>> > > > >>>> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>>> > > > >>>> > >>
>>> > > > >>>> >
>>> > > > >>>> >
>>> > > >
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > > > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>>> > > > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail:
>>> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>>> > > > >>>> >
>>> > > > >>>> >
>>> > > > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>.
I would like to ask Dave, Kevin, Sheng, and Ted if you wish to stay in the
list.
That would be an honor to us.
Ted said he was too busy to get involved a few weeks ago. I will check with
him
again to see if he is interested.
Thanks
*Ovilia*
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:32 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The roaster shows 21 people:
> 4 mentors;
> 11 PPMC members if not counting mentors (you can count the list of PPMC
> (15));
> 6 committers if not counting mentors and PPMC members.
>
> So 15 is the sum of mentors and PPMC members, and "Committers (21)" is the
> sum of mentors, PPMC members and non-PPMC committers.
>
> Thanks
>
> *Ovilia*
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:26 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I am still not following
>> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts Roster shows 15 PPMC + 4
>> mentors
>>
>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>
>>
>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:22写道：
>>
>> > Hi Sheng,
>> >
>> > Sorry I didn't know mentors should be included. Of course we are more
>> than
>> > willing
>> > to include mentors here.
>> >
>> > After adding mentors, the list has 21 members, which is the same as
>> roaster
>> > committer
>> > number. The number 15 includes mentor but not committers so there is no
>> > problem
>> > here.
>> >
>> > Updated list of members: (21 people)
>> > chfw@apache.org Jaska
>> > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
>> > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
>> > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
>> > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
>> > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
>> > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
>> > kmcgrail@apache.org Kevin A. McGrail
>> > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
>> > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
>> > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
>> > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
>> > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
>> > tedliu@apache.org Ted Liu
>> > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
>> > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
>> > wave@apache.org Dave Fisher
>> > wusheng@apache.org Sheng Wu
>> > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
>> > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
>> > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > *Ovilia*
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:13 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:08写道：
>> > >
>> > > > It seems I need to include the initial members and vice president
>> name
>> > in
>> > > > the
>> > > > vote email.
>> > > >
>> > > > Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if we take
>> all
>> > > those
>> > > > initial
>> > > > PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects.
>> > > > And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC member
>> list
>> > and
>> > > > current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts.
>> > > >
>> > > > So the full list of initial members would be: (email in alphabetical
>> > > order)
>> > > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
>> > > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
>> > > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
>> > > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
>> > > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
>> > > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
>> > > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
>> > > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
>> > > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
>> > > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
>> > > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
>> > > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
>> > > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
>> > > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
>> > > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
>> > > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
>> > > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Based on the roaster, you only have 15 PPMC member,
>> > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts, here is 17 people.
>> Which
>> > > side is right?
>> > > And, traditionally, mentors should be asked whether to stay in the
>> PMC,
>> > > default is yes.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > More information on the vice president (chair of the project) from
>> [1]:
>> > > > > PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members, with one
>> vote
>> > > on
>> > > > project matters just like other PMC members. The primary duty of a
>> PMC
>> > > > chair is
>> > > > providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and
>> status of
>> > > > their project.
>> > > > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list,
>> and
>> > be
>> > > > aware of
>> > > > any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for
>> working
>> > > with
>> > > > the PMC
>> > > > as a whole to address any board concerns.
>> > > >
>> > > > As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a volunteer.
>> During
>> > > > incubation,
>> > > > I have been helping the community to grow and push things forward.
>> And
>> > I
>> > > > have
>> > > > been writing incubation report since then. I would like to continue
>> > > > contributing
>> > > > and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache
>> ECharts a
>> > > > better
>> > > > community.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > +1
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and
>> you
>> > are
>> > > > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our
>> vote
>> > > > soon.
>> > > >
>> > > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
>> > > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks
>> > > >
>> > > > *Ovilia*
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if no one
>> > opposes.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks
>> > > > >
>> > > > > *Ovilia*
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> Hi,
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and translated
>> > tools.
>> > > > >> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may have a further
>> > > > >> discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Please check and comment if there's a problem remaining.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1] in
>> > dev@echarts
>> > > > >> mailing list soon.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> [1]
>> > > > >>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Thanks
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> *Ovilia*
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us with
>> > graduation.
>> > > We
>> > > > >>> really appreciate it.
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist is [2].
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before we start a
>> > vote.
>> > > So
>> > > > >>> please
>> > > > >>> tell us if you find something should be changed.
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> [1]
>> > > > >>>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
>> > > > >>> [2]
>> > > > >>>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Thanks
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> *Ovilia*
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <
>> max@preset.io>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and wanted to
>> > > > >>>> introduce
>> > > > >>>> myself and offer some help.
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache Airflow
>> (top
>> > > > >>>> level)
>> > > > >>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset community
>> is
>> > > > >>>> currently
>> > > > >>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50] Proposal
>> for
>> > > > using
>> > > > >>>> ECharts as our main charting library
>> > > > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>,
>> > > looking
>> > > > >>>> forward to collaborate!
>> > > > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts'
>> graduation
>> > > > >>>> process as
>> > > > >>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a
>> checklist
>> > > and
>> > > > >>>> items
>> > > > >>>> you're looking for help/support?
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> Thanks,
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> Max
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <quillqian@gmail.com
>> >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> >
>> > > > >>>> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF official
>> and
>> > > > >>>> > community, including:
>> > > > >>>> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting external
>> > > content
>> > > > >>>> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something like
>> > > “this
>> > > > >>>> is not
>> > > > >>>> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie collecting
>> > > > >>>> announcement on
>> > > > >>>> > websites.
>> > > > >>>> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the service
>> but
>> > > also
>> > > > >>>> > stated out builded version can not represent official version
>> > and
>> > > it
>> > > > >>>> is not
>> > > > >>>> > for re-distributing.
>> > > > >>>> >
>> > > > >>>> > Quill
>> > > > >>>> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will use my
>> > > > nickname)
>> > > > >>>> >
>> > > > >>>> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> 写道：
>> > > > >>>> > >
>> > > > >>>> > > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午7:21写道：
>> > > > >>>> > >
>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download
>> > source
>> > > > >>>> package
>> > > > >>>> > is
>> > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
>> > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether
>> there
>> > > is
>> > > > a
>> > > > >>>> > change
>> > > > >>>> > >> or
>> > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know.
>> And
>> > no
>> > > > one
>> > > > >>>> would
>> > > > >>>> > >>> check.
>> > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation
>> > about
>> > > > >>>> that, the
>> > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>
>> > > > >>>> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is the build
>> > > script
>> > > > >>>> used
>> > > > >>>> > on
>> > > > >>>> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and voted.
>> > > > >>>> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still about
>> 1.5k
>> > > > >>>> developers
>> > > > >>>> > >> using this online tool everyday.
>> > > > >>>> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these developers to
>> > build
>> > > > from
>> > > > >>>> > source
>> > > > >>>> > >> in local.
>> > > > >>>> > >>
>> > > > >>>> > >
>> > > > >>>> > > I think you could start a discussion in the
>> gerneral@incubator
>> > ,
>> > > > to
>> > > > >>>> check
>> > > > >>>> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than
>> removing
>> > > it.
>> > > > >>>> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal
>> simulation on
>> > > > that
>> > > > >>>> page,
>> > > > >>>> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at least.
>> > > > >>>> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all necessary
>> env,
>> > > then
>> > > > >>>> you
>> > > > >>>> > just
>> > > > >>>> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the
>> > pre-requirement
>> > > > >>>> env have
>> > > > >>>> > > been installed correctly.
>> > > > >>>> > >
>> > > > >>>> > >
>> > > > >>>> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
>> > > > >>>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
>> > > > >>>> > >
>> > > > >>>> > >
>> > > > >>>> > >>
>> > > > >>>> > >> Thanks
>> > > > >>>> > >>
>> > > > >>>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <
>> > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
>> > > > >>>> > wrote:
>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道：
>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> Hi, Sheng
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which
>> > > includes
>> > > > >>>> all
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that
>> is an
>> > > > >>>> official
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is
>> > bringing
>> > > > the
>> > > > >>>> local
>> > > > >>>> > >>> CLI
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> to the web.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> In which developers can
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have
>> > been
>> > > > >>>> voted.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js
>> file
>> > > on
>> > > > >>>> the
>> > > > >>>> > >>> browser.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the local
>> CLI
>> > is
>> > > > >>>> all the
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> processes are on the browser.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause
>> > > potential
>> > > > >>>> risks
>> > > > >>>> > >> in
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> it.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download
>> > source
>> > > > >>>> package
>> > > > >>>> > is
>> > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
>> > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether
>> there
>> > > is
>> > > > a
>> > > > >>>> > change
>> > > > >>>> > >> or
>> > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know.
>> And
>> > no
>> > > > one
>> > > > >>>> would
>> > > > >>>> > >>> check.
>> > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation
>> > about
>> > > > >>>> that, the
>> > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>> > > > >>>> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> Regards.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <
>> > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
>> > > > >>>> > >>> wrote:
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道：
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the
>> navigator. I
>> > > > >>>> thought it
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> meant
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> if there's a
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't
>> > > > realize
>> > > > >>>> it
>> > > > >>>> > >>> means
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> link is
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the
>> > > > community,
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> something
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> similar
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted
>> > on a
>> > > > >>>> Baidu
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> server
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and we don't
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the navigator and
>> > list
>> > > it
>> > > > >>>> > >>> somewhere
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> as
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> a
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> community resource?
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of
>> > > > >>>> community/ecosystem.
>> > > > >>>> > >> And
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> not
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the
>> > Apache
>> > > > >>>> ECharts.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2]
>> and
>> > > the
>> > > > >>>> > >> current
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-theme page
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is
>> > this
>> > > a
>> > > > >>>> > >> problem?
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so they
>> are
>> > > links
>> > > > >>>> to
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> related
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> GitHub projects.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs
>> > > about
>> > > > >>>> links
>> > > > >>>> > >> to
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> 3rd
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the bug/security
>> > > issue
>> > > > >>>> when
>> > > > >>>> > >>> those
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> extensions have issues.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as
>> > > enhancement,
>> > > > >>>> > >>> iteration.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We
>> didn't
>> > > put a
>> > > > >>>> "help
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> translate" note because
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to translate
>> > and
>> > > it
>> > > > >>>> > >> should
>> > > > >>>> > >>> be
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> done within a few
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a
>> "(in
>> > > > >>>> Chinese)"
>> > > > >>>> > >>> note
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> in
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the navigator.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they
>> > > could
>> > > > >>>> finish
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> those
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I
>> hope
>> > to
>> > > > >>>> ease
>> > > > >>>> > >> other
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> people's concern.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release with
>> the
>> > > least
>> > > > >>>> > >> source
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> files
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> required.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is not
>> using
>> > > the
>> > > > >>>> source
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> files
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> voted.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the
>> > > source
>> > > > >>>> file
>> > > > >>>> > >>> from
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Apache SVN
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does
>> > that
>> > > > >>>> seem to
>> > > > >>>> > >>> work
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> for
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> you?
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which
>> > > includes
>> > > > >>>> all
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that
>> is an
>> > > > >>>> official
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if
>> > you
>> > > > >>>> prefer
>> > > > >>>> > >> the
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to
>> > repackage
>> > > > the
>> > > > >>>> > >> source
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> code?
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [1]
>> > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [2]
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>> > > > >>>>
>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [3]
>> > https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> *Ovilia*
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
>> > > > >>>> > >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do
>> remember
>> > > > there
>> > > > >>>> was
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is
>> testing
>> > > for
>> > > > >>>> this
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> policy:
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link check
>> in
>> > > the
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> incubator,
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> does
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could compare
>> it
>> > > with
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is
>> > that?
>> > > > >>>> From
>> > > > >>>> > >> my
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> reading,
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s)
>> > this
>> > > > >>>> repo?
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the
>> > > > >>>> > >> differences
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> between
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is
>> > any
>> > > > >>>> > >> official
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> release
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could
>> > you
>> > > > >>>> > >> clarify
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> what
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> they
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> are?
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they
>> are
>> > > > >>>> > >>> configuration
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only,
>> and
>> > do
>> > > > you
>> > > > >>>> > >>> have
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> open
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools?
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website
>> > > > download
>> > > > >>>> > >>> page,
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> how
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks
>> the
>> > ASF
>> > > > >>>> > >> release
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> process.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not
>> source, no
>> > > > >>>> binary)
>> > > > >>>> > >>> is
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> never
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you
>> provide
>> > > the
>> > > > >>>> > >> users
>> > > > >>>> > >>> to
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> get a
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted
>> source
>> > > > tars
>> > > > >>>> > >> make
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> me
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> unsure
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other
>> > mentors
>> > > > >>>> > >> think?
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
>> 上午10:25写道：
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related
>> > documents
>> > > > and
>> > > > >>>> > >> see
>> > > > >>>> > >>> if
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> there is
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> something
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <
>> > > > >>>> susiwen8@gmail.com>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> wrote:
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all
>> > rules
>> > > > of
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache,
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> most
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since
>> I
>> > > > haven't
>> > > > >>>> > >>> work
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> with
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> them,
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin
>> > Zhifeng
>> > > > and
>> > > > >>>> > >> Mr
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> Dong
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Rui
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> had
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even
>> > thought
>> > > > they
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> haven't
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't change
>> the
>> > > fact
>> > > > >>>> > >> that
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> they
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> have
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as
>> > PMC
>> > > in
>> > > > >>>> > >>> future
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> would
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> be
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via private
>> mail
>> > > list
>> > > > >>>> > >>> wasn't a
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> great
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else
>> would
>> > > > >>>> "steal"
>> > > > >>>> > >>> it,
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list
>> which
>> > > lots
>> > > > of
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> people
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> how
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四
>> > > > >>>> 下午12:57写道：
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of
>> > > podling
>> > > > >>>> > >>> website
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> and
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> is
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password
>> on
>> > > email
>> > > > >>>> > >>> without
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> any
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email
>> > clients
>> > > > >>>> don’t
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> encrypt
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> the
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead to a
>> leak
>> > > of
>> > > > >>>> > >>> content
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> if
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it’s
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s
>> better
>> > to
>> > > > >>>> > >> enable
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> email
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw
>> > > password
>> > > > or
>> > > > >>>> > >> any
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> other
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the
>> email by
>> > > > some
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> advanced
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing
>> list
>> > or
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> elsewhere.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we
>> should
>> > > > always
>> > > > >>>> > >> keep
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> the
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> founder
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to
>> ECharts
>> > > > >>>> project.
>> > > > >>>> > >>> As I
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know,
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and
>> > > > develop
>> > > > >>>> by
>> > > > >>>> > >>> his
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <
>> > oviliazhang@gmail.com
>> > > >
>> > > > >>>> > >> wrote:
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and
>> grown a
>> > > lot
>> > > > >>>> > >> since
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> our
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion
>> about
>> > > > whether
>> > > > >>>> > >> we
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> are
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> ready
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this
>> > > > >>>> discussion,
>> > > > >>>> > >> we
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> can
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> set
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the
>> vote
>> > and
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> undergoing
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the
>> > community
>> > > > [1]
>> > > > >>>> > >> and
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> now
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6
>> > different
>> > > > >>>> > >>> companies.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we
>> have
>> > 79
>> > > > >>>> people
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3];
>> > > > release
>> > > > >>>> > >>> guide
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> is
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> at
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [4]
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project
>> during
>> > > > >>>> > >> incubation
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> [9]
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available
>> at
>> > > [5]
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name
>> > searching
>> > > > has
>> > > > >>>> > >>> been
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> completed
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo,
>> document,
>> > > and
>> > > > >>>> so
>> > > > >>>> > >> on
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> according
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements.
>> You
>> > > may
>> > > > >>>> > >> help
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> check
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored
>> CDN to
>> > > > >>>> improve
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> speed
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> in
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> China
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not
>> > sure
>> > > > how
>> > > > >>>> > >> we
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send the
>> > password
>> > > > on
>> > > > >>>> > >> the
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> private
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide
>> [4]
>> > > > >>>> depends
>> > > > >>>> > >>> on
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> password
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial
>> > PPMCs
>> > > > that
>> > > > >>>> > >> had
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> no
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> clear
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide
>> on
>> > > each
>> > > > >>>> of
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> them,
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>> do
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> we
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically,
>> it's
>> > > > >>>> decided
>> > > > >>>> > >> by
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> the
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project,
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>> https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>
>> > > > >>>> >
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>
>> > > > >>>> >
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>
>> > > > >>>> >
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8]
>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan,
>> 2018"`
>> > > on
>> > > > >>>> the
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> master
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>> > > > >>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
>> > > > >>>> > >> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> --
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>> > > dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
>> > > > dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> --
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> Yi Shen
>> > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>> > > > >>>> > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>>
>> > > > >>>> > >>
>> > > > >>>> > >>
>> > > > >>>> > >> --
>> > > > >>>> > >> Yi Shen
>> > > > >>>> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>> > > > >>>> > >>
>> > > > >>>> >
>> > > > >>>> >
>> > > >
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>> > > > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>> > > > >>>> >
>> > > > >>>> >
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>.
FYI，Committers are still keep the committer right of Echart.
Willem Jiang
Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:32 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The roaster shows 21 people:
> 4 mentors;
> 11 PPMC members if not counting mentors (you can count the list of PPMC
> (15));
> 6 committers if not counting mentors and PPMC members.
>
> So 15 is the sum of mentors and PPMC members, and "Committers (21)" is the
> sum of mentors, PPMC members and non-PPMC committers.
>
> Thanks
>
> *Ovilia*
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:26 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I am still not following
> > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts Roster shows 15 PPMC + 4
> > mentors
> >
> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:22写道：
> >
> > > Hi Sheng,
> > >
> > > Sorry I didn't know mentors should be included. Of course we are more
> > than
> > > willing
> > > to include mentors here.
> > >
> > > After adding mentors, the list has 21 members, which is the same as
> > roaster
> > > committer
> > > number. The number 15 includes mentor but not committers so there is no
> > > problem
> > > here.
> > >
> > > Updated list of members: (21 people)
> > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > > kmcgrail@apache.org Kevin A. McGrail
> > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > > tedliu@apache.org Ted Liu
> > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > > wave@apache.org Dave Fisher
> > > wusheng@apache.org Sheng Wu
> > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > *Ovilia*
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:13 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:08写道：
> > > >
> > > > > It seems I need to include the initial members and vice president
> > name
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > vote email.
> > > > >
> > > > > Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if we take all
> > > > those
> > > > > initial
> > > > > PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects.
> > > > > And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC member list
> > > and
> > > > > current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts.
> > > > >
> > > > > So the full list of initial members would be: (email in alphabetical
> > > > order)
> > > > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > > > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > > > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > > > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > > > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > > > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > > > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > > > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > > > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > > > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > > > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > > > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > > > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > > > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > > > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > > > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > > > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Based on the roaster, you only have 15 PPMC member,
> > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts, here is 17 people.
> > Which
> > > > side is right?
> > > > And, traditionally, mentors should be asked whether to stay in the PMC,
> > > > default is yes.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > More information on the vice president (chair of the project) from
> > [1]:
> > > > > > PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members, with one
> > vote
> > > > on
> > > > > project matters just like other PMC members. The primary duty of a
> > PMC
> > > > > chair is
> > > > > providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and status
> > of
> > > > > their project.
> > > > > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list, and
> > > be
> > > > > aware of
> > > > > any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for working
> > > > with
> > > > > the PMC
> > > > > as a whole to address any board concerns.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a volunteer.
> > During
> > > > > incubation,
> > > > > I have been helping the community to grow and push things forward.
> > And
> > > I
> > > > > have
> > > > > been writing incubation report since then. I would like to continue
> > > > > contributing
> > > > > and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache
> > ECharts a
> > > > > better
> > > > > community.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > +1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and you
> > > are
> > > > > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our
> > vote
> > > > > soon.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> > > > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if no one
> > > opposes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and translated
> > > tools.
> > > > > >> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may have a further
> > > > > >> discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Please check and comment if there's a problem remaining.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1] in
> > > dev@echarts
> > > > > >> mailing list soon.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> [1]
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thanks
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> *Ovilia*
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us with
> > > graduation.
> > > > We
> > > > > >>> really appreciate it.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist is [2].
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before we start a
> > > vote.
> > > > So
> > > > > >>> please
> > > > > >>> tell us if you find something should be changed.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> [1]
> > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > > >>> [2]
> > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <max@preset.io
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and wanted to
> > > > > >>>> introduce
> > > > > >>>> myself and offer some help.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache Airflow
> > (top
> > > > > >>>> level)
> > > > > >>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset community
> > is
> > > > > >>>> currently
> > > > > >>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50] Proposal
> > for
> > > > > using
> > > > > >>>> ECharts as our main charting library
> > > > > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>,
> > > > looking
> > > > > >>>> forward to collaborate!
> > > > > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts' graduation
> > > > > >>>> process as
> > > > > >>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a
> > checklist
> > > > and
> > > > > >>>> items
> > > > > >>>> you're looking for help/support?
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Max
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <qu...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF official
> > and
> > > > > >>>> > community, including:
> > > > > >>>> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting external
> > > > content
> > > > > >>>> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something like
> > > > “this
> > > > > >>>> is not
> > > > > >>>> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie collecting
> > > > > >>>> announcement on
> > > > > >>>> > websites.
> > > > > >>>> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the service
> > but
> > > > also
> > > > > >>>> > stated out builded version can not represent official version
> > > and
> > > > it
> > > > > >>>> is not
> > > > > >>>> > for re-distributing.
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> > Quill
> > > > > >>>> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will use my
> > > > > nickname)
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> 写道：
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午7:21写道：
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download
> > > source
> > > > > >>>> package
> > > > > >>>> > is
> > > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether
> > there
> > > > is
> > > > > a
> > > > > >>>> > change
> > > > > >>>> > >> or
> > > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And
> > > no
> > > > > one
> > > > > >>>> would
> > > > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation
> > > about
> > > > > >>>> that, the
> > > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > >>>> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is the build
> > > > script
> > > > > >>>> used
> > > > > >>>> > on
> > > > > >>>> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and voted.
> > > > > >>>> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still about 1.5k
> > > > > >>>> developers
> > > > > >>>> > >> using this online tool everyday.
> > > > > >>>> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these developers to
> > > build
> > > > > from
> > > > > >>>> > source
> > > > > >>>> > >> in local.
> > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > > I think you could start a discussion in the
> > gerneral@incubator
> > > ,
> > > > > to
> > > > > >>>> check
> > > > > >>>> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than
> > removing
> > > > it.
> > > > > >>>> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal simulation
> > on
> > > > > that
> > > > > >>>> page,
> > > > > >>>> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at least.
> > > > > >>>> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all necessary
> > env,
> > > > then
> > > > > >>>> you
> > > > > >>>> > just
> > > > > >>>> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the
> > > pre-requirement
> > > > > >>>> env have
> > > > > >>>> > > been installed correctly.
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > >>>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > >>>> > >> Thanks
> > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > >>>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>>> > wrote:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道：
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> Hi, Sheng
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which
> > > > includes
> > > > > >>>> all
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is
> > an
> > > > > >>>> official
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is
> > > bringing
> > > > > the
> > > > > >>>> local
> > > > > >>>> > >>> CLI
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> to the web.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> In which developers can
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have
> > > been
> > > > > >>>> voted.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js
> > file
> > > > on
> > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>> browser.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the local
> > CLI
> > > is
> > > > > >>>> all the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> processes are on the browser.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause
> > > > potential
> > > > > >>>> risks
> > > > > >>>> > >> in
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> it.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download
> > > source
> > > > > >>>> package
> > > > > >>>> > is
> > > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether
> > there
> > > > is
> > > > > a
> > > > > >>>> > change
> > > > > >>>> > >> or
> > > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And
> > > no
> > > > > one
> > > > > >>>> would
> > > > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation
> > > about
> > > > > >>>> that, the
> > > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > >>>> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> Regards.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>>> > >>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道：
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the navigator.
> > I
> > > > > >>>> thought it
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> meant
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> if there's a
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't
> > > > > realize
> > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > >>>> > >>> means
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> link is
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the
> > > > > community,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> something
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> similar
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted
> > > on a
> > > > > >>>> Baidu
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> server
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and we don't
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the navigator and
> > > list
> > > > it
> > > > > >>>> > >>> somewhere
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> as
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> a
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> community resource?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of
> > > > > >>>> community/ecosystem.
> > > > > >>>> > >> And
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> not
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the
> > > Apache
> > > > > >>>> ECharts.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2]
> > and
> > > > the
> > > > > >>>> > >> current
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-theme page
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is
> > > this
> > > > a
> > > > > >>>> > >> problem?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so they are
> > > > links
> > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> related
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> GitHub projects.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs
> > > > about
> > > > > >>>> links
> > > > > >>>> > >> to
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> 3rd
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the bug/security
> > > > issue
> > > > > >>>> when
> > > > > >>>> > >>> those
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> extensions have issues.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as
> > > > enhancement,
> > > > > >>>> > >>> iteration.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We didn't
> > > > put a
> > > > > >>>> "help
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> translate" note because
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to translate
> > > and
> > > > it
> > > > > >>>> > >> should
> > > > > >>>> > >>> be
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> done within a few
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a
> > "(in
> > > > > >>>> Chinese)"
> > > > > >>>> > >>> note
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> in
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the navigator.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they
> > > > could
> > > > > >>>> finish
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> those
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I
> > hope
> > > to
> > > > > >>>> ease
> > > > > >>>> > >> other
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> people's concern.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release with the
> > > > least
> > > > > >>>> > >> source
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> files
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> required.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is not
> > using
> > > > the
> > > > > >>>> source
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> files
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> voted.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the
> > > > source
> > > > > >>>> file
> > > > > >>>> > >>> from
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Apache SVN
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does
> > > that
> > > > > >>>> seem to
> > > > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> for
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> you?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which
> > > > includes
> > > > > >>>> all
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is
> > an
> > > > > >>>> official
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if
> > > you
> > > > > >>>> prefer
> > > > > >>>> > >> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to
> > > repackage
> > > > > the
> > > > > >>>> > >> source
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> code?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [1]
> > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [2]
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [3]
> > > https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
> > > > > >>>> > >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do
> > remember
> > > > > there
> > > > > >>>> was
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is
> > testing
> > > > for
> > > > > >>>> this
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> policy:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link check
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> incubator,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> does
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it
> > > > with
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is
> > > that?
> > > > > >>>> From
> > > > > >>>> > >> my
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> reading,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s)
> > > this
> > > > > >>>> repo?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the
> > > > > >>>> > >> differences
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> between
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is
> > > any
> > > > > >>>> > >> official
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> release
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could
> > > you
> > > > > >>>> > >> clarify
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> what
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> they
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> are?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are
> > > > > >>>> > >>> configuration
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only,
> > and
> > > do
> > > > > you
> > > > > >>>> > >>> have
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> open
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website
> > > > > download
> > > > > >>>> > >>> page,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> how
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the
> > > ASF
> > > > > >>>> > >> release
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> process.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not source,
> > no
> > > > > >>>> binary)
> > > > > >>>> > >>> is
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> never
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you
> > provide
> > > > the
> > > > > >>>> > >> users
> > > > > >>>> > >>> to
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> get a
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted
> > source
> > > > > tars
> > > > > >>>> > >> make
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> me
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> unsure
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other
> > > mentors
> > > > > >>>> > >> think?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> > 上午10:25写道：
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related
> > > documents
> > > > > and
> > > > > >>>> > >> see
> > > > > >>>> > >>> if
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> there is
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> something
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <
> > > > > >>>> susiwen8@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all
> > > rules
> > > > > of
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> most
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I
> > > > > haven't
> > > > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> with
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> them,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin
> > > Zhifeng
> > > > > and
> > > > > >>>> > >> Mr
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> Dong
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Rui
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> had
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even
> > > thought
> > > > > they
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> haven't
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't change
> > the
> > > > fact
> > > > > >>>> > >> that
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> they
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> have
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as
> > > PMC
> > > > in
> > > > > >>>> > >>> future
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> would
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> be
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail
> > > > list
> > > > > >>>> > >>> wasn't a
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> great
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else
> > would
> > > > > >>>> "steal"
> > > > > >>>> > >>> it,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which
> > > > lots
> > > > > of
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> people
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> how
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四
> > > > > >>>> 下午12:57写道：
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of
> > > > podling
> > > > > >>>> > >>> website
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> and
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on
> > > > email
> > > > > >>>> > >>> without
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> any
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email
> > > clients
> > > > > >>>> don’t
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> encrypt
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead to a
> > leak
> > > > of
> > > > > >>>> > >>> content
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> if
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it’s
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s
> > better
> > > to
> > > > > >>>> > >> enable
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> email
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw
> > > > password
> > > > > or
> > > > > >>>> > >> any
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> other
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the email
> > by
> > > > > some
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> advanced
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing
> > list
> > > or
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> elsewhere.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should
> > > > > always
> > > > > >>>> > >> keep
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> founder
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts
> > > > > >>>> project.
> > > > > >>>> > >>> As I
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and
> > > > > develop
> > > > > >>>> by
> > > > > >>>> > >>> his
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <
> > > oviliazhang@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > >>>> > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and
> > grown a
> > > > lot
> > > > > >>>> > >> since
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> our
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about
> > > > > whether
> > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> are
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> ready
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this
> > > > > >>>> discussion,
> > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> can
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> set
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote
> > > and
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> undergoing
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the
> > > community
> > > > > [1]
> > > > > >>>> > >> and
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> now
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6
> > > different
> > > > > >>>> > >>> companies.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have
> > > 79
> > > > > >>>> people
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3];
> > > > > release
> > > > > >>>> > >>> guide
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> is
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> at
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project
> > during
> > > > > >>>> > >> incubation
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> [9]
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available
> > at
> > > > [5]
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name
> > > searching
> > > > > has
> > > > > >>>> > >>> been
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> completed
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo,
> > document,
> > > > and
> > > > > >>>> so
> > > > > >>>> > >> on
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> according
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements.
> > You
> > > > may
> > > > > >>>> > >> help
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> check
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN
> > to
> > > > > >>>> improve
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> speed
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> in
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> China
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not
> > > sure
> > > > > how
> > > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send the
> > > password
> > > > > on
> > > > > >>>> > >> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> private
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide
> > [4]
> > > > > >>>> depends
> > > > > >>>> > >>> on
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> password
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial
> > > PPMCs
> > > > > that
> > > > > >>>> > >> had
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> no
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> clear
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide
> > on
> > > > each
> > > > > >>>> of
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> them,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> do
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> we
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically,
> > it's
> > > > > >>>> decided
> > > > > >>>> > >> by
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project,
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > > > > >>>> > >>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8]
> > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan,
> > 2018"`
> > > > on
> > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> master
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > > >>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > >>>> > >> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> --
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> Yi Shen
> > > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > >>>> > >> --
> > > > > >>>> > >> Yi Shen
> > > > > >>>> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>.
The roaster shows 21 people:
4 mentors;
11 PPMC members if not counting mentors (you can count the list of PPMC
(15));
6 committers if not counting mentors and PPMC members.
So 15 is the sum of mentors and PPMC members, and "Committers (21)" is the
sum of mentors, PPMC members and non-PPMC committers.
Thanks
*Ovilia*
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:26 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am still not following
> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts Roster shows 15 PPMC + 4
> mentors
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:22写道：
>
> > Hi Sheng,
> >
> > Sorry I didn't know mentors should be included. Of course we are more
> than
> > willing
> > to include mentors here.
> >
> > After adding mentors, the list has 21 members, which is the same as
> roaster
> > committer
> > number. The number 15 includes mentor but not committers so there is no
> > problem
> > here.
> >
> > Updated list of members: (21 people)
> > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > kmcgrail@apache.org Kevin A. McGrail
> > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > tedliu@apache.org Ted Liu
> > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > wave@apache.org Dave Fisher
> > wusheng@apache.org Sheng Wu
> > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > *Ovilia*
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:13 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:08写道：
> > >
> > > > It seems I need to include the initial members and vice president
> name
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > vote email.
> > > >
> > > > Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if we take all
> > > those
> > > > initial
> > > > PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects.
> > > > And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC member list
> > and
> > > > current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts.
> > > >
> > > > So the full list of initial members would be: (email in alphabetical
> > > order)
> > > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> > > >
> > >
> > > Based on the roaster, you only have 15 PPMC member,
> > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts, here is 17 people.
> Which
> > > side is right?
> > > And, traditionally, mentors should be asked whether to stay in the PMC,
> > > default is yes.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > More information on the vice president (chair of the project) from
> [1]:
> > > > > PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members, with one
> vote
> > > on
> > > > project matters just like other PMC members. The primary duty of a
> PMC
> > > > chair is
> > > > providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and status
> of
> > > > their project.
> > > > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list, and
> > be
> > > > aware of
> > > > any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for working
> > > with
> > > > the PMC
> > > > as a whole to address any board concerns.
> > > >
> > > > As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a volunteer.
> During
> > > > incubation,
> > > > I have been helping the community to grow and push things forward.
> And
> > I
> > > > have
> > > > been writing incubation report since then. I would like to continue
> > > > contributing
> > > > and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache
> ECharts a
> > > > better
> > > > community.
> > > >
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and you
> > are
> > > > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our
> vote
> > > > soon.
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> > > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > *Ovilia*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if no one
> > opposes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and translated
> > tools.
> > > > >> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may have a further
> > > > >> discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Please check and comment if there's a problem remaining.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1] in
> > dev@echarts
> > > > >> mailing list soon.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> [1]
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks
> > > > >>
> > > > >> *Ovilia*
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us with
> > graduation.
> > > We
> > > > >>> really appreciate it.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist is [2].
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before we start a
> > vote.
> > > So
> > > > >>> please
> > > > >>> tell us if you find something should be changed.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> [1]
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > >>> [2]
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> *Ovilia*
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <max@preset.io
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and wanted to
> > > > >>>> introduce
> > > > >>>> myself and offer some help.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache Airflow
> (top
> > > > >>>> level)
> > > > >>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset community
> is
> > > > >>>> currently
> > > > >>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50] Proposal
> for
> > > > using
> > > > >>>> ECharts as our main charting library
> > > > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>,
> > > looking
> > > > >>>> forward to collaborate!
> > > > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts' graduation
> > > > >>>> process as
> > > > >>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a
> checklist
> > > and
> > > > >>>> items
> > > > >>>> you're looking for help/support?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Max
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <qu...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF official
> and
> > > > >>>> > community, including:
> > > > >>>> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting external
> > > content
> > > > >>>> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something like
> > > “this
> > > > >>>> is not
> > > > >>>> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie collecting
> > > > >>>> announcement on
> > > > >>>> > websites.
> > > > >>>> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the service
> but
> > > also
> > > > >>>> > stated out builded version can not represent official version
> > and
> > > it
> > > > >>>> is not
> > > > >>>> > for re-distributing.
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> > Quill
> > > > >>>> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will use my
> > > > nickname)
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> 写道：
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午7:21写道：
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download
> > source
> > > > >>>> package
> > > > >>>> > is
> > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether
> there
> > > is
> > > > a
> > > > >>>> > change
> > > > >>>> > >> or
> > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And
> > no
> > > > one
> > > > >>>> would
> > > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation
> > about
> > > > >>>> that, the
> > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > >>>> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is the build
> > > script
> > > > >>>> used
> > > > >>>> > on
> > > > >>>> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and voted.
> > > > >>>> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still about 1.5k
> > > > >>>> developers
> > > > >>>> > >> using this online tool everyday.
> > > > >>>> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these developers to
> > build
> > > > from
> > > > >>>> > source
> > > > >>>> > >> in local.
> > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > I think you could start a discussion in the
> gerneral@incubator
> > ,
> > > > to
> > > > >>>> check
> > > > >>>> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than
> removing
> > > it.
> > > > >>>> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal simulation
> on
> > > > that
> > > > >>>> page,
> > > > >>>> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at least.
> > > > >>>> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all necessary
> env,
> > > then
> > > > >>>> you
> > > > >>>> > just
> > > > >>>> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the
> > pre-requirement
> > > > >>>> env have
> > > > >>>> > > been installed correctly.
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > >>>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > >>>> > >> Thanks
> > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > >>>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>> > wrote:
> > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > >>>> > >>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道：
> > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>> Hi, Sheng
> > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which
> > > includes
> > > > >>>> all
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is
> an
> > > > >>>> official
> > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is
> > bringing
> > > > the
> > > > >>>> local
> > > > >>>> > >>> CLI
> > > > >>>> > >>>> to the web.
> > > > >>>> > >>>> In which developers can
> > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have
> > been
> > > > >>>> voted.
> > > > >>>> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
> > > > >>>> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js
> file
> > > on
> > > > >>>> the
> > > > >>>> > >>> browser.
> > > > >>>> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the local
> CLI
> > is
> > > > >>>> all the
> > > > >>>> > >>>> processes are on the browser.
> > > > >>>> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause
> > > potential
> > > > >>>> risks
> > > > >>>> > >> in
> > > > >>>> > >>>> it.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download
> > source
> > > > >>>> package
> > > > >>>> > is
> > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether
> there
> > > is
> > > > a
> > > > >>>> > change
> > > > >>>> > >> or
> > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And
> > no
> > > > one
> > > > >>>> would
> > > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation
> > about
> > > > >>>> that, the
> > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > >>>> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > >>>> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>> Regards.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>> > >>> wrote:
> > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道：
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the navigator.
> I
> > > > >>>> thought it
> > > > >>>> > >>>> meant
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> if there's a
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't
> > > > realize
> > > > >>>> it
> > > > >>>> > >>> means
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> link is
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the
> > > > community,
> > > > >>>> > >>>> something
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> similar
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted
> > on a
> > > > >>>> Baidu
> > > > >>>> > >>>> server
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and we don't
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the navigator and
> > list
> > > it
> > > > >>>> > >>> somewhere
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> as
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> a
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> community resource?
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of
> > > > >>>> community/ecosystem.
> > > > >>>> > >> And
> > > > >>>> > >>>> not
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the
> > Apache
> > > > >>>> ECharts.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2]
> and
> > > the
> > > > >>>> > >> current
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-theme page
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is
> > this
> > > a
> > > > >>>> > >> problem?
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so they are
> > > links
> > > > >>>> to
> > > > >>>> > >>>> related
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> GitHub projects.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs
> > > about
> > > > >>>> links
> > > > >>>> > >> to
> > > > >>>> > >>>> 3rd
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the bug/security
> > > issue
> > > > >>>> when
> > > > >>>> > >>> those
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> extensions have issues.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as
> > > enhancement,
> > > > >>>> > >>> iteration.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We didn't
> > > put a
> > > > >>>> "help
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> translate" note because
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to translate
> > and
> > > it
> > > > >>>> > >> should
> > > > >>>> > >>> be
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> done within a few
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a
> "(in
> > > > >>>> Chinese)"
> > > > >>>> > >>> note
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> in
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the navigator.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they
> > > could
> > > > >>>> finish
> > > > >>>> > >>>> those
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I
> hope
> > to
> > > > >>>> ease
> > > > >>>> > >> other
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> people's concern.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release with the
> > > least
> > > > >>>> > >> source
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> files
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> required.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is not
> using
> > > the
> > > > >>>> source
> > > > >>>> > >>>> files
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> voted.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the
> > > source
> > > > >>>> file
> > > > >>>> > >>> from
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Apache SVN
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does
> > that
> > > > >>>> seem to
> > > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> for
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> you?
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which
> > > includes
> > > > >>>> all
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is
> an
> > > > >>>> official
> > > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if
> > you
> > > > >>>> prefer
> > > > >>>> > >> the
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to
> > repackage
> > > > the
> > > > >>>> > >> source
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> code?
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [1]
> > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [2]
> > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [3]
> > https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
> > > > >>>> > >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do
> remember
> > > > there
> > > > >>>> was
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is
> testing
> > > for
> > > > >>>> this
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> policy:
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link check
> in
> > > the
> > > > >>>> > >>>> incubator,
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> does
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it
> > > with
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is
> > that?
> > > > >>>> From
> > > > >>>> > >> my
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> reading,
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s)
> > this
> > > > >>>> repo?
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the
> > > > >>>> > >> differences
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> between
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is
> > any
> > > > >>>> > >> official
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> release
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could
> > you
> > > > >>>> > >> clarify
> > > > >>>> > >>>> what
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> they
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> are?
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are
> > > > >>>> > >>> configuration
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only,
> and
> > do
> > > > you
> > > > >>>> > >>> have
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> open
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools?
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website
> > > > download
> > > > >>>> > >>> page,
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> how
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the
> > ASF
> > > > >>>> > >> release
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> process.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not source,
> no
> > > > >>>> binary)
> > > > >>>> > >>> is
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> never
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you
> provide
> > > the
> > > > >>>> > >> users
> > > > >>>> > >>> to
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> get a
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted
> source
> > > > tars
> > > > >>>> > >> make
> > > > >>>> > >>>> me
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> unsure
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other
> > mentors
> > > > >>>> > >> think?
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一
> 上午10:25写道：
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related
> > documents
> > > > and
> > > > >>>> > >> see
> > > > >>>> > >>> if
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> there is
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> something
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <
> > > > >>>> susiwen8@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all
> > rules
> > > > of
> > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache,
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> most
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I
> > > > haven't
> > > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> with
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> them,
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin
> > Zhifeng
> > > > and
> > > > >>>> > >> Mr
> > > > >>>> > >>>> Dong
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Rui
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> had
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even
> > thought
> > > > they
> > > > >>>> > >>>> haven't
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't change
> the
> > > fact
> > > > >>>> > >> that
> > > > >>>> > >>>> they
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> have
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as
> > PMC
> > > in
> > > > >>>> > >>> future
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> would
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> be
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail
> > > list
> > > > >>>> > >>> wasn't a
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> great
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else
> would
> > > > >>>> "steal"
> > > > >>>> > >>> it,
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which
> > > lots
> > > > of
> > > > >>>> > >>>> people
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> how
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四
> > > > >>>> 下午12:57写道：
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of
> > > podling
> > > > >>>> > >>> website
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> and
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on
> > > email
> > > > >>>> > >>> without
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> any
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email
> > clients
> > > > >>>> don’t
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> encrypt
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> the
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead to a
> leak
> > > of
> > > > >>>> > >>> content
> > > > >>>> > >>>> if
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it’s
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s
> better
> > to
> > > > >>>> > >> enable
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> email
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw
> > > password
> > > > or
> > > > >>>> > >> any
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> other
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the email
> by
> > > > some
> > > > >>>> > >>>> advanced
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing
> list
> > or
> > > > >>>> > >>>> elsewhere.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should
> > > > always
> > > > >>>> > >> keep
> > > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> founder
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts
> > > > >>>> project.
> > > > >>>> > >>> As I
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know,
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and
> > > > develop
> > > > >>>> by
> > > > >>>> > >>> his
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <
> > oviliazhang@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > >>>> > >> wrote:
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and
> grown a
> > > lot
> > > > >>>> > >> since
> > > > >>>> > >>>> our
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about
> > > > whether
> > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > >>>> > >>>> are
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> ready
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this
> > > > >>>> discussion,
> > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > >>>> > >>>> can
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> set
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote
> > and
> > > > >>>> > >>>> undergoing
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the
> > community
> > > > [1]
> > > > >>>> > >> and
> > > > >>>> > >>>> now
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6
> > different
> > > > >>>> > >>> companies.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have
> > 79
> > > > >>>> people
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3];
> > > > release
> > > > >>>> > >>> guide
> > > > >>>> > >>>> is
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> at
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project
> during
> > > > >>>> > >> incubation
> > > > >>>> > >>>> [9]
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available
> at
> > > [5]
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name
> > searching
> > > > has
> > > > >>>> > >>> been
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> completed
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo,
> document,
> > > and
> > > > >>>> so
> > > > >>>> > >> on
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> according
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements.
> You
> > > may
> > > > >>>> > >> help
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> check
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN
> to
> > > > >>>> improve
> > > > >>>> > >>>> speed
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> in
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> China
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not
> > sure
> > > > how
> > > > >>>> > >> we
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send the
> > password
> > > > on
> > > > >>>> > >> the
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>> private
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide
> [4]
> > > > >>>> depends
> > > > >>>> > >>> on
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> password
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial
> > PPMCs
> > > > that
> > > > >>>> > >> had
> > > > >>>> > >>>> no
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> clear
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide
> on
> > > each
> > > > >>>> of
> > > > >>>> > >>>> them,
> > > > >>>> > >>>>> do
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> we
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically,
> it's
> > > > >>>> decided
> > > > >>>> > >> by
> > > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project,
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > > > >>>> > >>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8]
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan,
> 2018"`
> > > on
> > > > >>>> the
> > > > >>>> > >>>> master
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > >>>>
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > >>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > >>>> > >> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>> --
> > > > >>>> > >>>> Yi Shen
> > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > > >>>> > >>>
> > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > >>>> > >> --
> > > > >>>> > >> Yi Shen
> > > > >>>> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > > >>>> > >>
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>.
I am still not following
https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts Roster shows 15 PPMC + 4
mentors
Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108
Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:22写道：
> Hi Sheng,
>
> Sorry I didn't know mentors should be included. Of course we are more than
> willing
> to include mentors here.
>
> After adding mentors, the list has 21 members, which is the same as roaster
> committer
> number. The number 15 includes mentor but not committers so there is no
> problem
> here.
>
> Updated list of members: (21 people)
> chfw@apache.org Jaska
> clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> kmcgrail@apache.org Kevin A. McGrail
> ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> tedliu@apache.org Ted Liu
> wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> wave@apache.org Dave Fisher
> wusheng@apache.org Sheng Wu
> yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
>
>
> Thanks
>
> *Ovilia*
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:13 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:08写道：
> >
> > > It seems I need to include the initial members and vice president name
> in
> > > the
> > > vote email.
> > >
> > > Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if we take all
> > those
> > > initial
> > > PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects.
> > > And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC member list
> and
> > > current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts.
> > >
> > > So the full list of initial members would be: (email in alphabetical
> > order)
> > > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> > >
> >
> > Based on the roaster, you only have 15 PPMC member,
> > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts, here is 17 people. Which
> > side is right?
> > And, traditionally, mentors should be asked whether to stay in the PMC,
> > default is yes.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > More information on the vice president (chair of the project) from [1]:
> > > > PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members, with one vote
> > on
> > > project matters just like other PMC members. The primary duty of a PMC
> > > chair is
> > > providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and status of
> > > their project.
> > > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list, and
> be
> > > aware of
> > > any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for working
> > with
> > > the PMC
> > > as a whole to address any board concerns.
> > >
> > > As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a volunteer. During
> > > incubation,
> > > I have been helping the community to grow and push things forward. And
> I
> > > have
> > > been writing incubation report since then. I would like to continue
> > > contributing
> > > and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache ECharts a
> > > better
> > > community.
> > >
> >
> > +1
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and you
> are
> > > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our vote
> > > soon.
> > >
> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > *Ovilia*
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if no one
> opposes.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > *Ovilia*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and translated
> tools.
> > > >> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may have a further
> > > >> discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
> > > >>
> > > >> Please check and comment if there's a problem remaining.
> > > >>
> > > >> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1] in
> dev@echarts
> > > >> mailing list soon.
> > > >>
> > > >> [1]
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks
> > > >>
> > > >> *Ovilia*
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us with
> graduation.
> > We
> > > >>> really appreciate it.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist is [2].
> > > >>>
> > > >>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before we start a
> vote.
> > So
> > > >>> please
> > > >>> tell us if you find something should be changed.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> [1]
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > >>> [2]
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *Ovilia*
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <ma...@preset.io>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and wanted to
> > > >>>> introduce
> > > >>>> myself and offer some help.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache Airflow (top
> > > >>>> level)
> > > >>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset community is
> > > >>>> currently
> > > >>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50] Proposal for
> > > using
> > > >>>> ECharts as our main charting library
> > > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>,
> > looking
> > > >>>> forward to collaborate!
> > > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts' graduation
> > > >>>> process as
> > > >>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a checklist
> > and
> > > >>>> items
> > > >>>> you're looking for help/support?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Max
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <qu...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF official and
> > > >>>> > community, including:
> > > >>>> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting external
> > content
> > > >>>> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something like
> > “this
> > > >>>> is not
> > > >>>> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie collecting
> > > >>>> announcement on
> > > >>>> > websites.
> > > >>>> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the service but
> > also
> > > >>>> > stated out builded version can not represent official version
> and
> > it
> > > >>>> is not
> > > >>>> > for re-distributing.
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > Quill
> > > >>>> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will use my
> > > nickname)
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> 写道：
> > > >>>> > >
> > > >>>> > > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午7:21写道：
> > > >>>> > >
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download
> source
> > > >>>> package
> > > >>>> > is
> > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there
> > is
> > > a
> > > >>>> > change
> > > >>>> > >> or
> > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And
> no
> > > one
> > > >>>> would
> > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation
> about
> > > >>>> that, the
> > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>
> > > >>>> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is the build
> > script
> > > >>>> used
> > > >>>> > on
> > > >>>> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and voted.
> > > >>>> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still about 1.5k
> > > >>>> developers
> > > >>>> > >> using this online tool everyday.
> > > >>>> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these developers to
> build
> > > from
> > > >>>> > source
> > > >>>> > >> in local.
> > > >>>> > >>
> > > >>>> > >
> > > >>>> > > I think you could start a discussion in the gerneral@incubator
> ,
> > > to
> > > >>>> check
> > > >>>> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than removing
> > it.
> > > >>>> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal simulation on
> > > that
> > > >>>> page,
> > > >>>> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at least.
> > > >>>> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all necessary env,
> > then
> > > >>>> you
> > > >>>> > just
> > > >>>> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the
> pre-requirement
> > > >>>> env have
> > > >>>> > > been installed correctly.
> > > >>>> > >
> > > >>>> > >
> > > >>>> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > >>>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > >>>> > >
> > > >>>> > >
> > > >>>> > >>
> > > >>>> > >> Thanks
> > > >>>> > >>
> > > >>>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > >>>> > wrote:
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道：
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>>> Hi, Sheng
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which
> > includes
> > > >>>> all
> > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an
> > > >>>> official
> > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is
> bringing
> > > the
> > > >>>> local
> > > >>>> > >>> CLI
> > > >>>> > >>>> to the web.
> > > >>>> > >>>> In which developers can
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have
> been
> > > >>>> voted.
> > > >>>> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
> > > >>>> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js file
> > on
> > > >>>> the
> > > >>>> > >>> browser.
> > > >>>> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the local CLI
> is
> > > >>>> all the
> > > >>>> > >>>> processes are on the browser.
> > > >>>> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause
> > potential
> > > >>>> risks
> > > >>>> > >> in
> > > >>>> > >>>> it.
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download
> source
> > > >>>> package
> > > >>>> > is
> > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there
> > is
> > > a
> > > >>>> > change
> > > >>>> > >> or
> > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And
> no
> > > one
> > > >>>> would
> > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation
> about
> > > >>>> that, the
> > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > >>>> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>> Regards.
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > > >>>> > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道：
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the navigator. I
> > > >>>> thought it
> > > >>>> > >>>> meant
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> if there's a
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't
> > > realize
> > > >>>> it
> > > >>>> > >>> means
> > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> link is
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
> > > >>>> > >>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the
> > > community,
> > > >>>> > >>>> something
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> similar
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted
> on a
> > > >>>> Baidu
> > > >>>> > >>>> server
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> and we don't
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the navigator and
> list
> > it
> > > >>>> > >>> somewhere
> > > >>>> > >>>>> as
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> a
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> community resource?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of
> > > >>>> community/ecosystem.
> > > >>>> > >> And
> > > >>>> > >>>> not
> > > >>>> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the
> Apache
> > > >>>> ECharts.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2] and
> > the
> > > >>>> > >> current
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-theme page
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is
> this
> > a
> > > >>>> > >> problem?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so they are
> > links
> > > >>>> to
> > > >>>> > >>>> related
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> GitHub projects.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs
> > about
> > > >>>> links
> > > >>>> > >> to
> > > >>>> > >>>> 3rd
> > > >>>> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
> > > >>>> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the bug/security
> > issue
> > > >>>> when
> > > >>>> > >>> those
> > > >>>> > >>>>> extensions have issues.
> > > >>>> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as
> > enhancement,
> > > >>>> > >>> iteration.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We didn't
> > put a
> > > >>>> "help
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> translate" note because
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to translate
> and
> > it
> > > >>>> > >> should
> > > >>>> > >>> be
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> done within a few
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a "(in
> > > >>>> Chinese)"
> > > >>>> > >>> note
> > > >>>> > >>>>> in
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> the navigator.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they
> > could
> > > >>>> finish
> > > >>>> > >>>> those
> > > >>>> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I hope
> to
> > > >>>> ease
> > > >>>> > >> other
> > > >>>> > >>>>> people's concern.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release with the
> > least
> > > >>>> > >> source
> > > >>>> > >>>>> files
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> required.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is not using
> > the
> > > >>>> source
> > > >>>> > >>>> files
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> voted.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the
> > source
> > > >>>> file
> > > >>>> > >>> from
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> Apache SVN
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does
> that
> > > >>>> seem to
> > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > >>>> > >>>>> for
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> you?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which
> > includes
> > > >>>> all
> > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an
> > > >>>> official
> > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > >>>> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if
> you
> > > >>>> prefer
> > > >>>> > >> the
> > > >>>> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to
> repackage
> > > the
> > > >>>> > >> source
> > > >>>> > >>>>> code?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> [1]
> > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> [2]
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> [3]
> https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
> > > >>>> > >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do remember
> > > there
> > > >>>> was
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is testing
> > for
> > > >>>> this
> > > >>>> > >>>>> policy:
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link check in
> > the
> > > >>>> > >>>> incubator,
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> does
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it
> > with
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is
> that?
> > > >>>> From
> > > >>>> > >> my
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> reading,
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s)
> this
> > > >>>> repo?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the
> > > >>>> > >> differences
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> between
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is
> any
> > > >>>> > >> official
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> release
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could
> you
> > > >>>> > >> clarify
> > > >>>> > >>>> what
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> they
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> are?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are
> > > >>>> > >>> configuration
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and
> do
> > > you
> > > >>>> > >>> have
> > > >>>> > >>>>> open
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website
> > > download
> > > >>>> > >>> page,
> > > >>>> > >>>>> how
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the
> ASF
> > > >>>> > >> release
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> process.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, no
> > > >>>> binary)
> > > >>>> > >>> is
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> never
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you provide
> > the
> > > >>>> > >> users
> > > >>>> > >>> to
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> get a
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted source
> > > tars
> > > >>>> > >> make
> > > >>>> > >>>> me
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> unsure
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other
> mentors
> > > >>>> > >> think?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午10:25写道：
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related
> documents
> > > and
> > > >>>> > >> see
> > > >>>> > >>> if
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> there is
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> something
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <
> > > >>>> susiwen8@gmail.com>
> > > >>>> > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all
> rules
> > > of
> > > >>>> > >>>> Apache,
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> and
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> most
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I
> > > haven't
> > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > >>>> > >>>>> with
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> them,
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin
> Zhifeng
> > > and
> > > >>>> > >> Mr
> > > >>>> > >>>> Dong
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> Rui
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> had
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even
> thought
> > > they
> > > >>>> > >>>> haven't
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't change the
> > fact
> > > >>>> > >> that
> > > >>>> > >>>> they
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> have
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as
> PMC
> > in
> > > >>>> > >>> future
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> would
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> be
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail
> > list
> > > >>>> > >>> wasn't a
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> great
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would
> > > >>>> "steal"
> > > >>>> > >>> it,
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which
> > lots
> > > of
> > > >>>> > >>>> people
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> know
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> how
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四
> > > >>>> 下午12:57写道：
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of
> > podling
> > > >>>> > >>> website
> > > >>>> > >>>>> and
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> is
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on
> > email
> > > >>>> > >>> without
> > > >>>> > >>>>> any
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email
> clients
> > > >>>> don’t
> > > >>>> > >>>>> encrypt
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> the
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead to a leak
> > of
> > > >>>> > >>> content
> > > >>>> > >>>> if
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it’s
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better
> to
> > > >>>> > >> enable
> > > >>>> > >>>>> email
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw
> > password
> > > or
> > > >>>> > >> any
> > > >>>> > >>>>> other
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the email by
> > > some
> > > >>>> > >>>> advanced
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list
> or
> > > >>>> > >>>> elsewhere.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should
> > > always
> > > >>>> > >> keep
> > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> founder
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts
> > > >>>> project.
> > > >>>> > >>> As I
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> know,
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and
> > > develop
> > > >>>> by
> > > >>>> > >>> his
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <
> oviliazhang@gmail.com
> > >
> > > >>>> > >> wrote:
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a
> > lot
> > > >>>> > >> since
> > > >>>> > >>>> our
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about
> > > whether
> > > >>>> > >> we
> > > >>>> > >>>> are
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> ready
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this
> > > >>>> discussion,
> > > >>>> > >> we
> > > >>>> > >>>> can
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> set
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote
> and
> > > >>>> > >>>> undergoing
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> the
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the
> community
> > > [1]
> > > >>>> > >> and
> > > >>>> > >>>> now
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6
> different
> > > >>>> > >>> companies.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have
> 79
> > > >>>> people
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> to
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3];
> > > release
> > > >>>> > >>> guide
> > > >>>> > >>>> is
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> at
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project during
> > > >>>> > >> incubation
> > > >>>> > >>>> [9]
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available at
> > [5]
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name
> searching
> > > has
> > > >>>> > >>> been
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> completed
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document,
> > and
> > > >>>> so
> > > >>>> > >> on
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> according
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You
> > may
> > > >>>> > >> help
> > > >>>> > >>>>> check
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to
> > > >>>> improve
> > > >>>> > >>>> speed
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> in
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> China
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not
> sure
> > > how
> > > >>>> > >> we
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send the
> password
> > > on
> > > >>>> > >> the
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> private
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4]
> > > >>>> depends
> > > >>>> > >>> on
> > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> password
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial
> PPMCs
> > > that
> > > >>>> > >> had
> > > >>>> > >>>> no
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> clear
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide on
> > each
> > > >>>> of
> > > >>>> > >>>> them,
> > > >>>> > >>>>> do
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> we
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's
> > > >>>> decided
> > > >>>> > >> by
> > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project,
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > > >>>> > >>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"`
> > on
> > > >>>> the
> > > >>>> > >>>> master
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>
> > > >>>>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > >>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > >>>> > >> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> --
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>> --
> > > >>>> > >>>> Yi Shen
> > > >>>> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>
> > > >>>> > >>
> > > >>>> > >> --
> > > >>>> > >> Yi Shen
> > > >>>> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > >>>> > >>
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>.
Hi Sheng,
Sorry I didn't know mentors should be included. Of course we are more than
willing
to include mentors here.
After adding mentors, the list has 21 members, which is the same as roaster
committer
number. The number 15 includes mentor but not committers so there is no
problem
here.
Updated list of members: (21 people)
chfw@apache.org Jaska
clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
kener@apache.org Feng Lin
kmcgrail@apache.org Kevin A. McGrail
ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
tedliu@apache.org Ted Liu
wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
wave@apache.org Dave Fisher
wusheng@apache.org Sheng Wu
yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
Thanks
*Ovilia*
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:13 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:08写道：
>
> > It seems I need to include the initial members and vice president name in
> > the
> > vote email.
> >
> > Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if we take all
> those
> > initial
> > PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects.
> > And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC member list and
> > current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts.
> >
> > So the full list of initial members would be: (email in alphabetical
> order)
> > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> >
>
> Based on the roaster, you only have 15 PPMC member,
> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts, here is 17 people. Which
> side is right?
> And, traditionally, mentors should be asked whether to stay in the PMC,
> default is yes.
>
>
> >
> > More information on the vice president (chair of the project) from [1]:
> > > PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members, with one vote
> on
> > project matters just like other PMC members. The primary duty of a PMC
> > chair is
> > providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and status of
> > their project.
> > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list, and be
> > aware of
> > any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for working
> with
> > the PMC
> > as a whole to address any board concerns.
> >
> > As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a volunteer. During
> > incubation,
> > I have been helping the community to grow and push things forward. And I
> > have
> > been writing incubation report since then. I would like to continue
> > contributing
> > and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache ECharts a
> > better
> > community.
> >
>
> +1
>
>
> >
> > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and you are
> > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our vote
> > soon.
> >
> > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > *Ovilia*
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if no one opposes.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > *Ovilia*
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and translated tools.
> > >> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may have a further
> > >> discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
> > >>
> > >> Please check and comment if there's a problem remaining.
> > >>
> > >> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1] in dev@echarts
> > >> mailing list soon.
> > >>
> > >> [1]
> > >>
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >>
> > >> *Ovilia*
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us with graduation.
> We
> > >>> really appreciate it.
> > >>>
> > >>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist is [2].
> > >>>
> > >>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before we start a vote.
> So
> > >>> please
> > >>> tell us if you find something should be changed.
> > >>>
> > >>> [1]
> > >>>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > >>> [2]
> > >>>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>>
> > >>> *Ovilia*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <ma...@preset.io>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and wanted to
> > >>>> introduce
> > >>>> myself and offer some help.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache Airflow (top
> > >>>> level)
> > >>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset community is
> > >>>> currently
> > >>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50] Proposal for
> > using
> > >>>> ECharts as our main charting library
> > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>,
> looking
> > >>>> forward to collaborate!
> > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts' graduation
> > >>>> process as
> > >>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a checklist
> and
> > >>>> items
> > >>>> you're looking for help/support?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Max
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <qu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF official and
> > >>>> > community, including:
> > >>>> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting external
> content
> > >>>> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something like
> “this
> > >>>> is not
> > >>>> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie collecting
> > >>>> announcement on
> > >>>> > websites.
> > >>>> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the service but
> also
> > >>>> > stated out builded version can not represent official version and
> it
> > >>>> is not
> > >>>> > for re-distributing.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Quill
> > >>>> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will use my
> > nickname)
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> 写道：
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午7:21写道：
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source
> > >>>> package
> > >>>> > is
> > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there
> is
> > a
> > >>>> > change
> > >>>> > >> or
> > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no
> > one
> > >>>> would
> > >>>> > >>> check.
> > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about
> > >>>> that, the
> > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>
> > >>>> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is the build
> script
> > >>>> used
> > >>>> > on
> > >>>> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and voted.
> > >>>> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still about 1.5k
> > >>>> developers
> > >>>> > >> using this online tool everyday.
> > >>>> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these developers to build
> > from
> > >>>> > source
> > >>>> > >> in local.
> > >>>> > >>
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > > I think you could start a discussion in the gerneral@incubator,
> > to
> > >>>> check
> > >>>> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than removing
> it.
> > >>>> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal simulation on
> > that
> > >>>> page,
> > >>>> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at least.
> > >>>> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all necessary env,
> then
> > >>>> you
> > >>>> > just
> > >>>> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the pre-requirement
> > >>>> env have
> > >>>> > > been installed correctly.
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > >>>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > >>
> > >>>> > >> Thanks
> > >>>> > >>
> > >>>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <
> > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > >>>> > wrote:
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道：
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>>> Hi, Sheng
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which
> includes
> > >>>> all
> > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an
> > >>>> official
> > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is bringing
> > the
> > >>>> local
> > >>>> > >>> CLI
> > >>>> > >>>> to the web.
> > >>>> > >>>> In which developers can
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have been
> > >>>> voted.
> > >>>> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
> > >>>> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js file
> on
> > >>>> the
> > >>>> > >>> browser.
> > >>>> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the local CLI is
> > >>>> all the
> > >>>> > >>>> processes are on the browser.
> > >>>> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause
> potential
> > >>>> risks
> > >>>> > >> in
> > >>>> > >>>> it.
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source
> > >>>> package
> > >>>> > is
> > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there
> is
> > a
> > >>>> > change
> > >>>> > >> or
> > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no
> > one
> > >>>> would
> > >>>> > >>> check.
> > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about
> > >>>> that, the
> > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > >>>> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>> Regards.
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <
> > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > >>>> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道：
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the navigator. I
> > >>>> thought it
> > >>>> > >>>> meant
> > >>>> > >>>>>> if there's a
> > >>>> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't
> > realize
> > >>>> it
> > >>>> > >>> means
> > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > >>>> > >>>>>> link is
> > >>>> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
> > >>>> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
> > >>>> > >>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the
> > community,
> > >>>> > >>>> something
> > >>>> > >>>>>> similar
> > >>>> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted on a
> > >>>> Baidu
> > >>>> > >>>> server
> > >>>> > >>>>>> and we don't
> > >>>> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> > >>>> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the navigator and list
> it
> > >>>> > >>> somewhere
> > >>>> > >>>>> as
> > >>>> > >>>>>> a
> > >>>> > >>>>>> community resource?
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of
> > >>>> community/ecosystem.
> > >>>> > >> And
> > >>>> > >>>> not
> > >>>> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the Apache
> > >>>> ECharts.
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2] and
> the
> > >>>> > >> current
> > >>>> > >>>>>> download-theme page
> > >>>> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is this
> a
> > >>>> > >> problem?
> > >>>> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so they are
> links
> > >>>> to
> > >>>> > >>>> related
> > >>>> > >>>>>> GitHub projects.
> > >>>> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
> > >>>> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
> > >>>> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs
> about
> > >>>> links
> > >>>> > >> to
> > >>>> > >>>> 3rd
> > >>>> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
> > >>>> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the bug/security
> issue
> > >>>> when
> > >>>> > >>> those
> > >>>> > >>>>> extensions have issues.
> > >>>> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as
> enhancement,
> > >>>> > >>> iteration.
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We didn't
> put a
> > >>>> "help
> > >>>> > >>>>>> translate" note because
> > >>>> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to translate and
> it
> > >>>> > >> should
> > >>>> > >>> be
> > >>>> > >>>>>> done within a few
> > >>>> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a "(in
> > >>>> Chinese)"
> > >>>> > >>> note
> > >>>> > >>>>> in
> > >>>> > >>>>>> the navigator.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they
> could
> > >>>> finish
> > >>>> > >>>> those
> > >>>> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I hope to
> > >>>> ease
> > >>>> > >> other
> > >>>> > >>>>> people's concern.
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release with the
> least
> > >>>> > >> source
> > >>>> > >>>>> files
> > >>>> > >>>>>> required.
> > >>>> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is not using
> the
> > >>>> source
> > >>>> > >>>> files
> > >>>> > >>>>>> voted.
> > >>>> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the
> source
> > >>>> file
> > >>>> > >>> from
> > >>>> > >>>>>> Apache SVN
> > >>>> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does that
> > >>>> seem to
> > >>>> > >>> work
> > >>>> > >>>>> for
> > >>>> > >>>>>> you?
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which
> includes
> > >>>> all
> > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an
> > >>>> official
> > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > >>>> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if you
> > >>>> prefer
> > >>>> > >> the
> > >>>> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to repackage
> > the
> > >>>> > >> source
> > >>>> > >>>>> code?
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> [1]
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > >>>> > >>>>>> [2]
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> > >>>> > >>>>>> [3] https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
> > >>>> > >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do remember
> > there
> > >>>> was
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is testing
> for
> > >>>> this
> > >>>> > >>>>> policy:
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link check in
> the
> > >>>> > >>>> incubator,
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> does
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it
> with
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is that?
> > >>>> From
> > >>>> > >> my
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> reading,
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s) this
> > >>>> repo?
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the
> > >>>> > >> differences
> > >>>> > >>>>>> between
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is any
> > >>>> > >> official
> > >>>> > >>>>>> release
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could you
> > >>>> > >> clarify
> > >>>> > >>>> what
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> they
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> are?
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are
> > >>>> > >>> configuration
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and do
> > you
> > >>>> > >>> have
> > >>>> > >>>>> open
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools?
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website
> > download
> > >>>> > >>> page,
> > >>>> > >>>>> how
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the ASF
> > >>>> > >> release
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> process.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, no
> > >>>> binary)
> > >>>> > >>> is
> > >>>> > >>>>>> never
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you provide
> the
> > >>>> > >> users
> > >>>> > >>> to
> > >>>> > >>>>>> get a
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted source
> > tars
> > >>>> > >> make
> > >>>> > >>>> me
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> unsure
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other mentors
> > >>>> > >> think?
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午10:25写道：
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related documents
> > and
> > >>>> > >> see
> > >>>> > >>> if
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> there is
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> something
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <
> > >>>> susiwen8@gmail.com>
> > >>>> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all rules
> > of
> > >>>> > >>>> Apache,
> > >>>> > >>>>>> and
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> most
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I
> > haven't
> > >>>> > >>> work
> > >>>> > >>>>> with
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> them,
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin Zhifeng
> > and
> > >>>> > >> Mr
> > >>>> > >>>> Dong
> > >>>> > >>>>>> Rui
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> had
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even thought
> > they
> > >>>> > >>>> haven't
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't change the
> fact
> > >>>> > >> that
> > >>>> > >>>> they
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> have
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as PMC
> in
> > >>>> > >>> future
> > >>>> > >>>>>> would
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> be
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail
> list
> > >>>> > >>> wasn't a
> > >>>> > >>>>>> great
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would
> > >>>> "steal"
> > >>>> > >>> it,
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which
> lots
> > of
> > >>>> > >>>> people
> > >>>> > >>>>>> know
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> how
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四
> > >>>> 下午12:57写道：
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of
> podling
> > >>>> > >>> website
> > >>>> > >>>>> and
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> it
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on
> email
> > >>>> > >>> without
> > >>>> > >>>>> any
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email clients
> > >>>> don’t
> > >>>> > >>>>> encrypt
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> the
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead to a leak
> of
> > >>>> > >>> content
> > >>>> > >>>> if
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> it’s
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better to
> > >>>> > >> enable
> > >>>> > >>>>> email
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw
> password
> > or
> > >>>> > >> any
> > >>>> > >>>>> other
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the email by
> > some
> > >>>> > >>>> advanced
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list or
> > >>>> > >>>> elsewhere.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should
> > always
> > >>>> > >> keep
> > >>>> > >>>> the
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> founder
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts
> > >>>> project.
> > >>>> > >>> As I
> > >>>> > >>>>>> know,
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and
> > develop
> > >>>> by
> > >>>> > >>> his
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <oviliazhang@gmail.com
> >
> > >>>> > >> wrote:
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a
> lot
> > >>>> > >> since
> > >>>> > >>>> our
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about
> > whether
> > >>>> > >> we
> > >>>> > >>>> are
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> ready
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this
> > >>>> discussion,
> > >>>> > >> we
> > >>>> > >>>> can
> > >>>> > >>>>>> set
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote and
> > >>>> > >>>> undergoing
> > >>>> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the community
> > [1]
> > >>>> > >> and
> > >>>> > >>>> now
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6 different
> > >>>> > >>> companies.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have 79
> > >>>> people
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3];
> > release
> > >>>> > >>> guide
> > >>>> > >>>> is
> > >>>> > >>>>>> at
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project during
> > >>>> > >> incubation
> > >>>> > >>>> [9]
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available at
> [5]
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name searching
> > has
> > >>>> > >>> been
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> completed
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document,
> and
> > >>>> so
> > >>>> > >> on
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> according
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You
> may
> > >>>> > >> help
> > >>>> > >>>>> check
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to
> > >>>> improve
> > >>>> > >>>> speed
> > >>>> > >>>>>> in
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> China
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not sure
> > how
> > >>>> > >> we
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send the password
> > on
> > >>>> > >> the
> > >>>> > >>>>>> private
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4]
> > >>>> depends
> > >>>> > >>> on
> > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> password
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial PPMCs
> > that
> > >>>> > >> had
> > >>>> > >>>> no
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> clear
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide on
> each
> > >>>> of
> > >>>> > >>>> them,
> > >>>> > >>>>> do
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> we
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's
> > >>>> decided
> > >>>> > >> by
> > >>>> > >>>> the
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project,
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > >>>> > >>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>
> > >>>> >
> > >>>>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>
> > >>>> >
> > >>>>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>
> > >>>> >
> > >>>>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > >>>> > >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"`
> on
> > >>>> the
> > >>>> > >>>> master
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>
> > >>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > >>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > >>>> > >> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>> --
> > >>>> > >>>> Yi Shen
> > >>>> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>
> > >>>> > >>
> > >>>> > >> --
> > >>>> > >> Yi Shen
> > >>>> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > >>>> > >>
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by siwen su <su...@gmail.com>.
I have no objection, and Olivia you got a vote!
Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:13写道：
> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:08写道：
>
> > It seems I need to include the initial members and vice president name in
> > the
> > vote email.
> >
> > Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if we take all
> those
> > initial
> > PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects.
> > And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC member list and
> > current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts.
> >
> > So the full list of initial members would be: (email in alphabetical
> order)
> > chfw@apache.org Jaska
> > clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> > dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> > deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> > dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> > errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> > kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> > saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> > shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> > sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> > susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> > ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> > wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> > wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> > yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> > yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> > zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
> >
>
> Based on the roaster, you only have 15 PPMC member,
> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts, here is 17 people. Which
> side is right?
> And, traditionally, mentors should be asked whether to stay in the PMC,
> default is yes.
>
>
> >
> > More information on the vice president (chair of the project) from [1]:
> > > PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members, with one vote
> on
> > project matters just like other PMC members. The primary duty of a PMC
> > chair is
> > providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and status of
> > their project.
> > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list, and be
> > aware of
> > any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for working
> with
> > the PMC
> > as a whole to address any board concerns.
> >
> > As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a volunteer. During
> > incubation,
> > I have been helping the community to grow and push things forward. And I
> > have
> > been writing incubation report since then. I would like to continue
> > contributing
> > and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache ECharts a
> > better
> > community.
> >
>
> +1
>
>
> >
> > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and you are
> > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our vote
> > soon.
> >
> > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > *Ovilia*
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if no one opposes.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > *Ovilia*
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and translated tools.
> > >> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may have a further
> > >> discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
> > >>
> > >> Please check and comment if there's a problem remaining.
> > >>
> > >> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1] in dev@echarts
> > >> mailing list soon.
> > >>
> > >> [1]
> > >>
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >>
> > >> *Ovilia*
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us with graduation.
> We
> > >>> really appreciate it.
> > >>>
> > >>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist is [2].
> > >>>
> > >>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before we start a vote.
> So
> > >>> please
> > >>> tell us if you find something should be changed.
> > >>>
> > >>> [1]
> > >>>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > >>> [2]
> > >>>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>>
> > >>> *Ovilia*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <ma...@preset.io>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and wanted to
> > >>>> introduce
> > >>>> myself and offer some help.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache Airflow (top
> > >>>> level)
> > >>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset community is
> > >>>> currently
> > >>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50] Proposal for
> > using
> > >>>> ECharts as our main charting library
> > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>,
> looking
> > >>>> forward to collaborate!
> > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts' graduation
> > >>>> process as
> > >>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a checklist
> and
> > >>>> items
> > >>>> you're looking for help/support?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Max
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <qu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF official and
> > >>>> > community, including:
> > >>>> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting external
> content
> > >>>> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something like
> “this
> > >>>> is not
> > >>>> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie collecting
> > >>>> announcement on
> > >>>> > websites.
> > >>>> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the service but
> also
> > >>>> > stated out builded version can not represent official version and
> it
> > >>>> is not
> > >>>> > for re-distributing.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Quill
> > >>>> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will use my
> > nickname)
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> 写道：
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午7:21写道：
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source
> > >>>> package
> > >>>> > is
> > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there
> is
> > a
> > >>>> > change
> > >>>> > >> or
> > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no
> > one
> > >>>> would
> > >>>> > >>> check.
> > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about
> > >>>> that, the
> > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>
> > >>>> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is the build
> script
> > >>>> used
> > >>>> > on
> > >>>> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and voted.
> > >>>> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still about 1.5k
> > >>>> developers
> > >>>> > >> using this online tool everyday.
> > >>>> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these developers to build
> > from
> > >>>> > source
> > >>>> > >> in local.
> > >>>> > >>
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > > I think you could start a discussion in the gerneral@incubator,
> > to
> > >>>> check
> > >>>> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than removing
> it.
> > >>>> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal simulation on
> > that
> > >>>> page,
> > >>>> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at least.
> > >>>> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all necessary env,
> then
> > >>>> you
> > >>>> > just
> > >>>> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the pre-requirement
> > >>>> env have
> > >>>> > > been installed correctly.
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > >>>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > >>
> > >>>> > >> Thanks
> > >>>> > >>
> > >>>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <
> > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > >>>> > wrote:
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道：
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>>> Hi, Sheng
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which
> includes
> > >>>> all
> > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an
> > >>>> official
> > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is bringing
> > the
> > >>>> local
> > >>>> > >>> CLI
> > >>>> > >>>> to the web.
> > >>>> > >>>> In which developers can
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have been
> > >>>> voted.
> > >>>> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
> > >>>> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js file
> on
> > >>>> the
> > >>>> > >>> browser.
> > >>>> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the local CLI is
> > >>>> all the
> > >>>> > >>>> processes are on the browser.
> > >>>> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause
> potential
> > >>>> risks
> > >>>> > >> in
> > >>>> > >>>> it.
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source
> > >>>> package
> > >>>> > is
> > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there
> is
> > a
> > >>>> > change
> > >>>> > >> or
> > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no
> > one
> > >>>> would
> > >>>> > >>> check.
> > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about
> > >>>> that, the
> > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > >>>> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>> Regards.
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <
> > >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > >>>> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道：
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the navigator. I
> > >>>> thought it
> > >>>> > >>>> meant
> > >>>> > >>>>>> if there's a
> > >>>> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't
> > realize
> > >>>> it
> > >>>> > >>> means
> > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > >>>> > >>>>>> link is
> > >>>> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
> > >>>> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
> > >>>> > >>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the
> > community,
> > >>>> > >>>> something
> > >>>> > >>>>>> similar
> > >>>> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted on a
> > >>>> Baidu
> > >>>> > >>>> server
> > >>>> > >>>>>> and we don't
> > >>>> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> > >>>> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the navigator and list
> it
> > >>>> > >>> somewhere
> > >>>> > >>>>> as
> > >>>> > >>>>>> a
> > >>>> > >>>>>> community resource?
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of
> > >>>> community/ecosystem.
> > >>>> > >> And
> > >>>> > >>>> not
> > >>>> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the Apache
> > >>>> ECharts.
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2] and
> the
> > >>>> > >> current
> > >>>> > >>>>>> download-theme page
> > >>>> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is this
> a
> > >>>> > >> problem?
> > >>>> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so they are
> links
> > >>>> to
> > >>>> > >>>> related
> > >>>> > >>>>>> GitHub projects.
> > >>>> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
> > >>>> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
> > >>>> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs
> about
> > >>>> links
> > >>>> > >> to
> > >>>> > >>>> 3rd
> > >>>> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
> > >>>> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the bug/security
> issue
> > >>>> when
> > >>>> > >>> those
> > >>>> > >>>>> extensions have issues.
> > >>>> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as
> enhancement,
> > >>>> > >>> iteration.
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We didn't
> put a
> > >>>> "help
> > >>>> > >>>>>> translate" note because
> > >>>> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to translate and
> it
> > >>>> > >> should
> > >>>> > >>> be
> > >>>> > >>>>>> done within a few
> > >>>> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a "(in
> > >>>> Chinese)"
> > >>>> > >>> note
> > >>>> > >>>>> in
> > >>>> > >>>>>> the navigator.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they
> could
> > >>>> finish
> > >>>> > >>>> those
> > >>>> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I hope to
> > >>>> ease
> > >>>> > >> other
> > >>>> > >>>>> people's concern.
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release with the
> least
> > >>>> > >> source
> > >>>> > >>>>> files
> > >>>> > >>>>>> required.
> > >>>> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is not using
> the
> > >>>> source
> > >>>> > >>>> files
> > >>>> > >>>>>> voted.
> > >>>> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the
> source
> > >>>> file
> > >>>> > >>> from
> > >>>> > >>>>>> Apache SVN
> > >>>> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does that
> > >>>> seem to
> > >>>> > >>> work
> > >>>> > >>>>> for
> > >>>> > >>>>>> you?
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which
> includes
> > >>>> all
> > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an
> > >>>> official
> > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > >>>> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if you
> > >>>> prefer
> > >>>> > >> the
> > >>>> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to repackage
> > the
> > >>>> > >> source
> > >>>> > >>>>> code?
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> [1]
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > >>>> > >>>>>> [2]
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> > >>>> > >>>>>> [3] https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
> > >>>> > >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
> > >>>> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do remember
> > there
> > >>>> was
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is testing
> for
> > >>>> this
> > >>>> > >>>>> policy:
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link check in
> the
> > >>>> > >>>> incubator,
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> does
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it
> with
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is that?
> > >>>> From
> > >>>> > >> my
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> reading,
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s) this
> > >>>> repo?
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the
> > >>>> > >> differences
> > >>>> > >>>>>> between
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is any
> > >>>> > >> official
> > >>>> > >>>>>> release
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could you
> > >>>> > >> clarify
> > >>>> > >>>> what
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> they
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> are?
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are
> > >>>> > >>> configuration
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and do
> > you
> > >>>> > >>> have
> > >>>> > >>>>> open
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools?
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website
> > download
> > >>>> > >>> page,
> > >>>> > >>>>> how
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the ASF
> > >>>> > >> release
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> process.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, no
> > >>>> binary)
> > >>>> > >>> is
> > >>>> > >>>>>> never
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you provide
> the
> > >>>> > >> users
> > >>>> > >>> to
> > >>>> > >>>>>> get a
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted source
> > tars
> > >>>> > >> make
> > >>>> > >>>> me
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> unsure
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other mentors
> > >>>> > >> think?
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午10:25写道：
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related documents
> > and
> > >>>> > >> see
> > >>>> > >>> if
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> there is
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> something
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <
> > >>>> susiwen8@gmail.com>
> > >>>> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all rules
> > of
> > >>>> > >>>> Apache,
> > >>>> > >>>>>> and
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> most
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I
> > haven't
> > >>>> > >>> work
> > >>>> > >>>>> with
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> them,
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin Zhifeng
> > and
> > >>>> > >> Mr
> > >>>> > >>>> Dong
> > >>>> > >>>>>> Rui
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> had
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even thought
> > they
> > >>>> > >>>> haven't
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't change the
> fact
> > >>>> > >> that
> > >>>> > >>>> they
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> have
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as PMC
> in
> > >>>> > >>> future
> > >>>> > >>>>>> would
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> be
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail
> list
> > >>>> > >>> wasn't a
> > >>>> > >>>>>> great
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would
> > >>>> "steal"
> > >>>> > >>> it,
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which
> lots
> > of
> > >>>> > >>>> people
> > >>>> > >>>>>> know
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> how
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四
> > >>>> 下午12:57写道：
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of
> podling
> > >>>> > >>> website
> > >>>> > >>>>> and
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> it
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on
> email
> > >>>> > >>> without
> > >>>> > >>>>> any
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email clients
> > >>>> don’t
> > >>>> > >>>>> encrypt
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> the
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead to a leak
> of
> > >>>> > >>> content
> > >>>> > >>>> if
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> it’s
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better to
> > >>>> > >> enable
> > >>>> > >>>>> email
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw
> password
> > or
> > >>>> > >> any
> > >>>> > >>>>> other
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the email by
> > some
> > >>>> > >>>> advanced
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list or
> > >>>> > >>>> elsewhere.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should
> > always
> > >>>> > >> keep
> > >>>> > >>>> the
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> founder
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts
> > >>>> project.
> > >>>> > >>> As I
> > >>>> > >>>>>> know,
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and
> > develop
> > >>>> by
> > >>>> > >>> his
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <oviliazhang@gmail.com
> >
> > >>>> > >> wrote:
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a
> lot
> > >>>> > >> since
> > >>>> > >>>> our
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about
> > whether
> > >>>> > >> we
> > >>>> > >>>> are
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> ready
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this
> > >>>> discussion,
> > >>>> > >> we
> > >>>> > >>>> can
> > >>>> > >>>>>> set
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote and
> > >>>> > >>>> undergoing
> > >>>> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the community
> > [1]
> > >>>> > >> and
> > >>>> > >>>> now
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6 different
> > >>>> > >>> companies.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have 79
> > >>>> people
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3];
> > release
> > >>>> > >>> guide
> > >>>> > >>>> is
> > >>>> > >>>>>> at
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project during
> > >>>> > >> incubation
> > >>>> > >>>> [9]
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available at
> [5]
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name searching
> > has
> > >>>> > >>> been
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> completed
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document,
> and
> > >>>> so
> > >>>> > >> on
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> according
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You
> may
> > >>>> > >> help
> > >>>> > >>>>> check
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to
> > >>>> improve
> > >>>> > >>>> speed
> > >>>> > >>>>>> in
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> China
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not sure
> > how
> > >>>> > >> we
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send the password
> > on
> > >>>> > >> the
> > >>>> > >>>>>> private
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4]
> > >>>> depends
> > >>>> > >>> on
> > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> password
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial PPMCs
> > that
> > >>>> > >> had
> > >>>> > >>>> no
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> clear
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide on
> each
> > >>>> of
> > >>>> > >>>> them,
> > >>>> > >>>>> do
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> we
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's
> > >>>> decided
> > >>>> > >> by
> > >>>> > >>>> the
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project,
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > >>>> > >>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>
> > >>>> >
> > >>>>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>
> > >>>> >
> > >>>>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>
> > >>>> >
> > >>>>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > >>>> > >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"`
> on
> > >>>> the
> > >>>> > >>>> master
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>
> > >>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > >>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > >>>> > >> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>> --
> > >>>> > >>>> Yi Shen
> > >>>> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > >>>> > >>>>
> > >>>> > >>>
> > >>>> > >>
> > >>>> > >>
> > >>>> > >> --
> > >>>> > >> Yi Shen
> > >>>> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > >>>> > >>
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>.
Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:08写道：
> It seems I need to include the initial members and vice president name in
> the
> vote email.
>
> Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if we take all those
> initial
> PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects.
> And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC member list and
> current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts.
>
> So the full list of initial members would be: (email in alphabetical order)
> chfw@apache.org Jaska
> clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
> dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
> deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
> dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
> errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
> kener@apache.org Feng Lin
> saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
> shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
> sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
> susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
> ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
> wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
> wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
> yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
> yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
> zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
>
Based on the roaster, you only have 15 PPMC member,
https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts, here is 17 people. Which
side is right?
And, traditionally, mentors should be asked whether to stay in the PMC,
default is yes.
>
> More information on the vice president (chair of the project) from [1]:
> > PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members, with one vote on
> project matters just like other PMC members. The primary duty of a PMC
> chair is
> providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and status of
> their project.
> PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list, and be
> aware of
> any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for working with
> the PMC
> as a whole to address any board concerns.
>
> As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a volunteer. During
> incubation,
> I have been helping the community to grow and push things forward. And I
> have
> been writing incubation report since then. I would like to continue
> contributing
> and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache ECharts a
> better
> community.
>
+1
>
> Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and you are
> welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our vote
> soon.
>
> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> *Ovilia*
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if no one opposes.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > *Ovilia*
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and translated tools.
> >> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may have a further
> >> discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
> >>
> >> Please check and comment if there's a problem remaining.
> >>
> >> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1] in dev@echarts
> >> mailing list soon.
> >>
> >> [1]
> >>
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> *Ovilia*
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us with graduation. We
> >>> really appreciate it.
> >>>
> >>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist is [2].
> >>>
> >>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before we start a vote. So
> >>> please
> >>> tell us if you find something should be changed.
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> >>> [2]
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> *Ovilia*
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <ma...@preset.io>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and wanted to
> >>>> introduce
> >>>> myself and offer some help.
> >>>>
> >>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache Airflow (top
> >>>> level)
> >>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset community is
> >>>> currently
> >>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50] Proposal for
> using
> >>>> ECharts as our main charting library
> >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>, looking
> >>>> forward to collaborate!
> >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
> >>>>
> >>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts' graduation
> >>>> process as
> >>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a checklist and
> >>>> items
> >>>> you're looking for help/support?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Max
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <qu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF official and
> >>>> > community, including:
> >>>> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting external content
> >>>> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something like “this
> >>>> is not
> >>>> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie collecting
> >>>> announcement on
> >>>> > websites.
> >>>> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the service but also
> >>>> > stated out builded version can not represent official version and it
> >>>> is not
> >>>> > for re-distributing.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Quill
> >>>> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will use my
> nickname)
> >>>> >
> >>>> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> 写道：
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午7:21写道：
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source
> >>>> package
> >>>> > is
> >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is
> a
> >>>> > change
> >>>> > >> or
> >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no
> one
> >>>> would
> >>>> > >>> check.
> >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about
> >>>> that, the
> >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is the build script
> >>>> used
> >>>> > on
> >>>> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and voted.
> >>>> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still about 1.5k
> >>>> developers
> >>>> > >> using this online tool everyday.
> >>>> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these developers to build
> from
> >>>> > source
> >>>> > >> in local.
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > I think you could start a discussion in the gerneral@incubator,
> to
> >>>> check
> >>>> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than removing it.
> >>>> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal simulation on
> that
> >>>> page,
> >>>> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at least.
> >>>> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all necessary env, then
> >>>> you
> >>>> > just
> >>>> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the pre-requirement
> >>>> env have
> >>>> > > been installed correctly.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >>>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> Thanks
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <
> >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道：
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>>> Hi, Sheng
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes
> >>>> all
> >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an
> >>>> official
> >>>> > >>>> apache
> >>>> > >>>>> release.
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is bringing
> the
> >>>> local
> >>>> > >>> CLI
> >>>> > >>>> to the web.
> >>>> > >>>> In which developers can
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have been
> >>>> voted.
> >>>> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
> >>>> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js file on
> >>>> the
> >>>> > >>> browser.
> >>>> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the local CLI is
> >>>> all the
> >>>> > >>>> processes are on the browser.
> >>>> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause potential
> >>>> risks
> >>>> > >> in
> >>>> > >>>> it.
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source
> >>>> package
> >>>> > is
> >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is
> a
> >>>> > change
> >>>> > >> or
> >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no
> one
> >>>> would
> >>>> > >>> check.
> >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about
> >>>> that, the
> >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >>>> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>> Regards.
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <
> >>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> >>>> > >>> wrote:
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道：
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the navigator. I
> >>>> thought it
> >>>> > >>>> meant
> >>>> > >>>>>> if there's a
> >>>> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't
> realize
> >>>> it
> >>>> > >>> means
> >>>> > >>>>> the
> >>>> > >>>>>> link is
> >>>> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
> >>>> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
> >>>> > >>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the
> community,
> >>>> > >>>> something
> >>>> > >>>>>> similar
> >>>> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted on a
> >>>> Baidu
> >>>> > >>>> server
> >>>> > >>>>>> and we don't
> >>>> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> >>>> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the navigator and list it
> >>>> > >>> somewhere
> >>>> > >>>>> as
> >>>> > >>>>>> a
> >>>> > >>>>>> community resource?
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of
> >>>> community/ecosystem.
> >>>> > >> And
> >>>> > >>>> not
> >>>> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the Apache
> >>>> ECharts.
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2] and the
> >>>> > >> current
> >>>> > >>>>>> download-theme page
> >>>> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is this a
> >>>> > >> problem?
> >>>> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so they are links
> >>>> to
> >>>> > >>>> related
> >>>> > >>>>>> GitHub projects.
> >>>> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
> >>>> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
> >>>> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs about
> >>>> links
> >>>> > >> to
> >>>> > >>>> 3rd
> >>>> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
> >>>> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the bug/security issue
> >>>> when
> >>>> > >>> those
> >>>> > >>>>> extensions have issues.
> >>>> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as enhancement,
> >>>> > >>> iteration.
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We didn't put a
> >>>> "help
> >>>> > >>>>>> translate" note because
> >>>> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to translate and it
> >>>> > >> should
> >>>> > >>> be
> >>>> > >>>>>> done within a few
> >>>> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a "(in
> >>>> Chinese)"
> >>>> > >>> note
> >>>> > >>>>> in
> >>>> > >>>>>> the navigator.
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they could
> >>>> finish
> >>>> > >>>> those
> >>>> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I hope to
> >>>> ease
> >>>> > >> other
> >>>> > >>>>> people's concern.
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release with the least
> >>>> > >> source
> >>>> > >>>>> files
> >>>> > >>>>>> required.
> >>>> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is not using the
> >>>> source
> >>>> > >>>> files
> >>>> > >>>>>> voted.
> >>>> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the source
> >>>> file
> >>>> > >>> from
> >>>> > >>>>>> Apache SVN
> >>>> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does that
> >>>> seem to
> >>>> > >>> work
> >>>> > >>>>> for
> >>>> > >>>>>> you?
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes
> >>>> all
> >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an
> >>>> official
> >>>> > >>>> apache
> >>>> > >>>>> release.
> >>>> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if you
> >>>> prefer
> >>>> > >> the
> >>>> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to repackage
> the
> >>>> > >> source
> >>>> > >>>>> code?
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> >>>> > >>>>>> [2]
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> >>>> > >>>>>> [3] https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>> *Ovilia*
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
> >>>> > >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
> >>>> > >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do remember
> there
> >>>> was
> >>>> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is testing for
> >>>> this
> >>>> > >>>>> policy:
> >>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> >>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link check in the
> >>>> > >>>> incubator,
> >>>> > >>>>>>> does
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it with
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is that?
> >>>> From
> >>>> > >> my
> >>>> > >>>>>>> reading,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s) this
> >>>> repo?
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the
> >>>> > >> differences
> >>>> > >>>>>> between
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is any
> >>>> > >> official
> >>>> > >>>>>> release
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could you
> >>>> > >> clarify
> >>>> > >>>> what
> >>>> > >>>>>>> they
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> are?
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are
> >>>> > >>> configuration
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and do
> you
> >>>> > >>> have
> >>>> > >>>>> open
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools?
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website
> download
> >>>> > >>> page,
> >>>> > >>>>> how
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the ASF
> >>>> > >> release
> >>>> > >>>>>>> process.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, no
> >>>> binary)
> >>>> > >>> is
> >>>> > >>>>>> never
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you provide the
> >>>> > >> users
> >>>> > >>> to
> >>>> > >>>>>> get a
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted source
> tars
> >>>> > >> make
> >>>> > >>>> me
> >>>> > >>>>>>> unsure
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other mentors
> >>>> > >> think?
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午10:25写道：
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related documents
> and
> >>>> > >> see
> >>>> > >>> if
> >>>> > >>>>>>> there is
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> something
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <
> >>>> susiwen8@gmail.com>
> >>>> > >>>>> wrote:
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all rules
> of
> >>>> > >>>> Apache,
> >>>> > >>>>>> and
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> most
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I
> haven't
> >>>> > >>> work
> >>>> > >>>>> with
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> them,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin Zhifeng
> and
> >>>> > >> Mr
> >>>> > >>>> Dong
> >>>> > >>>>>> Rui
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> had
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even thought
> they
> >>>> > >>>> haven't
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't change the fact
> >>>> > >> that
> >>>> > >>>> they
> >>>> > >>>>>>> have
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as PMC in
> >>>> > >>> future
> >>>> > >>>>>> would
> >>>> > >>>>>>> be
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail list
> >>>> > >>> wasn't a
> >>>> > >>>>>> great
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would
> >>>> "steal"
> >>>> > >>> it,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which lots
> of
> >>>> > >>>> people
> >>>> > >>>>>> know
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> how
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四
> >>>> 下午12:57写道：
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of podling
> >>>> > >>> website
> >>>> > >>>>> and
> >>>> > >>>>>>> it
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on email
> >>>> > >>> without
> >>>> > >>>>> any
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email clients
> >>>> don’t
> >>>> > >>>>> encrypt
> >>>> > >>>>>>> the
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead to a leak of
> >>>> > >>> content
> >>>> > >>>> if
> >>>> > >>>>>>> it’s
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better to
> >>>> > >> enable
> >>>> > >>>>> email
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw password
> or
> >>>> > >> any
> >>>> > >>>>> other
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the email by
> some
> >>>> > >>>> advanced
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list or
> >>>> > >>>> elsewhere.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should
> always
> >>>> > >> keep
> >>>> > >>>> the
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> founder
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts
> >>>> project.
> >>>> > >>> As I
> >>>> > >>>>>> know,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and
> develop
> >>>> by
> >>>> > >>> his
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> >>>> > >> wrote:
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a lot
> >>>> > >> since
> >>>> > >>>> our
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about
> whether
> >>>> > >> we
> >>>> > >>>> are
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> ready
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this
> >>>> discussion,
> >>>> > >> we
> >>>> > >>>> can
> >>>> > >>>>>> set
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote and
> >>>> > >>>> undergoing
> >>>> > >>>>>> the
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the community
> [1]
> >>>> > >> and
> >>>> > >>>> now
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6 different
> >>>> > >>> companies.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have 79
> >>>> people
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3];
> release
> >>>> > >>> guide
> >>>> > >>>> is
> >>>> > >>>>>> at
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [4]
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project during
> >>>> > >> incubation
> >>>> > >>>> [9]
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available at [5]
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name searching
> has
> >>>> > >>> been
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> completed
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document, and
> >>>> so
> >>>> > >> on
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> according
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You may
> >>>> > >> help
> >>>> > >>>>> check
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to
> >>>> improve
> >>>> > >>>> speed
> >>>> > >>>>>> in
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> China
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not sure
> how
> >>>> > >> we
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send the password
> on
> >>>> > >> the
> >>>> > >>>>>> private
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4]
> >>>> depends
> >>>> > >>> on
> >>>> > >>>>> the
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> password
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial PPMCs
> that
> >>>> > >> had
> >>>> > >>>> no
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> clear
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide on each
> >>>> of
> >>>> > >>>> them,
> >>>> > >>>>> do
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> we
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's
> >>>> decided
> >>>> > >> by
> >>>> > >>>> the
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >>>> > >>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> >>>> > >>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> >>>> > >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"` on
> >>>> the
> >>>> > >>>> master
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> >>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> >>>> > >> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>> --
> >>>> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
> >>>> > >>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
> >>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> >>>> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> >>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> >>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> >>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>> --
> >>>> > >>>> Yi Shen
> >>>> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> --
> >>>> > >> Yi Shen
> >>>> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>.
It seems I need to include the initial members and vice president name in
the
vote email.
Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if we take all those
initial
PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects.
And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC member list and
current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts.
So the full list of initial members would be: (email in alphabetical order)
chfw@apache.org Jaska
clemmakesapps@apache.org Clement Ho
dafo@apache.org Houjin Huang
deqingli@apache.org Deqing Li
dextercui@apache.org Jian Cui
errorrik@apache.org Rui Dong
kener@apache.org Feng Lin
saniac@apache.org Tianjiao Han
shenyi@apache.org Yi Shen
sushuang@apache.org Shuang Su
susiwen8@apache.org Siwen Su
ovilia@apache.org Wenli Zhang
wangdd@apache.org Junting Wang
wangzx@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang
yixiu@apache.org Huang Yixiu
yufeng04@apache.org Feng Yu
zakwu@apache.org Zak Wu
More information on the vice president (chair of the project) from [1]:
> PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members, with one vote on
project matters just like other PMC members. The primary duty of a PMC
chair is
providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and status of
their project.
PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list, and be
aware of
any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for working with
the PMC
as a whole to address any board concerns.
As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a volunteer. During
incubation,
I have been helping the community to grow and push things forward. And I
have
been writing incubation report since then. I would like to continue
contributing
and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache ECharts a
better
community.
Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and you are
welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our vote soon.
[1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
[2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
Thanks
*Ovilia*
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if no one opposes.
>
> Thanks
>
> *Ovilia*
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and translated tools.
>> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may have a further
>> discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
>>
>> Please check and comment if there's a problem remaining.
>>
>> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1] in dev@echarts
>> mailing list soon.
>>
>> [1]
>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> *Ovilia*
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us with graduation. We
>>> really appreciate it.
>>>
>>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist is [2].
>>>
>>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before we start a vote. So
>>> please
>>> tell us if you find something should be changed.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
>>> [2]
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> *Ovilia*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <ma...@preset.io> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and wanted to
>>>> introduce
>>>> myself and offer some help.
>>>>
>>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache Airflow (top
>>>> level)
>>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset community is
>>>> currently
>>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50] Proposal for using
>>>> ECharts as our main charting library
>>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>, looking
>>>> forward to collaborate!
>>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts' graduation
>>>> process as
>>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a checklist and
>>>> items
>>>> you're looking for help/support?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Max
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <qu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF official and
>>>> > community, including:
>>>> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting external content
>>>> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something like “this
>>>> is not
>>>> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie collecting
>>>> announcement on
>>>> > websites.
>>>> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the service but also
>>>> > stated out builded version can not represent official version and it
>>>> is not
>>>> > for re-distributing.
>>>> >
>>>> > Quill
>>>> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will use my nickname)
>>>> >
>>>> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> 写道：
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午7:21写道：
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source
>>>> package
>>>> > is
>>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
>>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is a
>>>> > change
>>>> > >> or
>>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no one
>>>> would
>>>> > >>> check.
>>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about
>>>> that, the
>>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is the build script
>>>> used
>>>> > on
>>>> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and voted.
>>>> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still about 1.5k
>>>> developers
>>>> > >> using this online tool everyday.
>>>> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these developers to build from
>>>> > source
>>>> > >> in local.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I think you could start a discussion in the gerneral@incubator, to
>>>> check
>>>> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than removing it.
>>>> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal simulation on that
>>>> page,
>>>> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at least.
>>>> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all necessary env, then
>>>> you
>>>> > just
>>>> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the pre-requirement
>>>> env have
>>>> > > been installed correctly.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Thanks
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <
>>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道：
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>> Hi, Sheng
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes
>>>> all
>>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an
>>>> official
>>>> > >>>> apache
>>>> > >>>>> release.
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is bringing the
>>>> local
>>>> > >>> CLI
>>>> > >>>> to the web.
>>>> > >>>> In which developers can
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have been
>>>> voted.
>>>> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
>>>> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js file on
>>>> the
>>>> > >>> browser.
>>>> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the local CLI is
>>>> all the
>>>> > >>>> processes are on the browser.
>>>> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause potential
>>>> risks
>>>> > >> in
>>>> > >>>> it.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source
>>>> package
>>>> > is
>>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
>>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is a
>>>> > change
>>>> > >> or
>>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no one
>>>> would
>>>> > >>> check.
>>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about
>>>> that, the
>>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Regards.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <
>>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
>>>> > >>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道：
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the navigator. I
>>>> thought it
>>>> > >>>> meant
>>>> > >>>>>> if there's a
>>>> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't realize
>>>> it
>>>> > >>> means
>>>> > >>>>> the
>>>> > >>>>>> link is
>>>> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
>>>> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
>>>> > >>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the community,
>>>> > >>>> something
>>>> > >>>>>> similar
>>>> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted on a
>>>> Baidu
>>>> > >>>> server
>>>> > >>>>>> and we don't
>>>> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
>>>> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the navigator and list it
>>>> > >>> somewhere
>>>> > >>>>> as
>>>> > >>>>>> a
>>>> > >>>>>> community resource?
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of
>>>> community/ecosystem.
>>>> > >> And
>>>> > >>>> not
>>>> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the Apache
>>>> ECharts.
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2] and the
>>>> > >> current
>>>> > >>>>>> download-theme page
>>>> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is this a
>>>> > >> problem?
>>>> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so they are links
>>>> to
>>>> > >>>> related
>>>> > >>>>>> GitHub projects.
>>>> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
>>>> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
>>>> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs about
>>>> links
>>>> > >> to
>>>> > >>>> 3rd
>>>> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
>>>> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the bug/security issue
>>>> when
>>>> > >>> those
>>>> > >>>>> extensions have issues.
>>>> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as enhancement,
>>>> > >>> iteration.
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We didn't put a
>>>> "help
>>>> > >>>>>> translate" note because
>>>> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to translate and it
>>>> > >> should
>>>> > >>> be
>>>> > >>>>>> done within a few
>>>> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a "(in
>>>> Chinese)"
>>>> > >>> note
>>>> > >>>>> in
>>>> > >>>>>> the navigator.
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they could
>>>> finish
>>>> > >>>> those
>>>> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I hope to
>>>> ease
>>>> > >> other
>>>> > >>>>> people's concern.
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release with the least
>>>> > >> source
>>>> > >>>>> files
>>>> > >>>>>> required.
>>>> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is not using the
>>>> source
>>>> > >>>> files
>>>> > >>>>>> voted.
>>>> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the source
>>>> file
>>>> > >>> from
>>>> > >>>>>> Apache SVN
>>>> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does that
>>>> seem to
>>>> > >>> work
>>>> > >>>>> for
>>>> > >>>>>> you?
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes
>>>> all
>>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an
>>>> official
>>>> > >>>> apache
>>>> > >>>>> release.
>>>> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if you
>>>> prefer
>>>> > >> the
>>>> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to repackage the
>>>> > >> source
>>>> > >>>>> code?
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
>>>> > >>>>>> [2]
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
>>>> > >>>>>> [3] https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
>>>> > >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
>>>> > >>>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do remember there
>>>> was
>>>> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is testing for
>>>> this
>>>> > >>>>> policy:
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link check in the
>>>> > >>>> incubator,
>>>> > >>>>>>> does
>>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
>>>> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it with
>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is that?
>>>> From
>>>> > >> my
>>>> > >>>>>>> reading,
>>>> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s) this
>>>> repo?
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the
>>>> > >> differences
>>>> > >>>>>> between
>>>> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is any
>>>> > >> official
>>>> > >>>>>> release
>>>> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could you
>>>> > >> clarify
>>>> > >>>> what
>>>> > >>>>>>> they
>>>> > >>>>>>>> are?
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are
>>>> > >>> configuration
>>>> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and do you
>>>> > >>> have
>>>> > >>>>> open
>>>> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools?
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website download
>>>> > >>> page,
>>>> > >>>>> how
>>>> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the ASF
>>>> > >> release
>>>> > >>>>>>> process.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, no
>>>> binary)
>>>> > >>> is
>>>> > >>>>>> never
>>>> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you provide the
>>>> > >> users
>>>> > >>> to
>>>> > >>>>>> get a
>>>> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted source tars
>>>> > >> make
>>>> > >>>> me
>>>> > >>>>>>> unsure
>>>> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other mentors
>>>> > >> think?
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午10:25写道：
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related documents and
>>>> > >> see
>>>> > >>> if
>>>> > >>>>>>> there is
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> something
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <
>>>> susiwen8@gmail.com>
>>>> > >>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all rules of
>>>> > >>>> Apache,
>>>> > >>>>>> and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> most
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I haven't
>>>> > >>> work
>>>> > >>>>> with
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> them,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin Zhifeng and
>>>> > >> Mr
>>>> > >>>> Dong
>>>> > >>>>>> Rui
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> had
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even thought they
>>>> > >>>> haven't
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't change the fact
>>>> > >> that
>>>> > >>>> they
>>>> > >>>>>>> have
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as PMC in
>>>> > >>> future
>>>> > >>>>>> would
>>>> > >>>>>>> be
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail list
>>>> > >>> wasn't a
>>>> > >>>>>> great
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would
>>>> "steal"
>>>> > >>> it,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which lots of
>>>> > >>>> people
>>>> > >>>>>> know
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> how
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四
>>>> 下午12:57写道：
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of podling
>>>> > >>> website
>>>> > >>>>> and
>>>> > >>>>>>> it
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> is
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on email
>>>> > >>> without
>>>> > >>>>> any
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email clients
>>>> don’t
>>>> > >>>>> encrypt
>>>> > >>>>>>> the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead to a leak of
>>>> > >>> content
>>>> > >>>> if
>>>> > >>>>>>> it’s
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better to
>>>> > >> enable
>>>> > >>>>> email
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw password or
>>>> > >> any
>>>> > >>>>> other
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the email by some
>>>> > >>>> advanced
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list or
>>>> > >>>> elsewhere.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should always
>>>> > >> keep
>>>> > >>>> the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> founder
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts
>>>> project.
>>>> > >>> As I
>>>> > >>>>>> know,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and develop
>>>> by
>>>> > >>> his
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a lot
>>>> > >> since
>>>> > >>>> our
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about whether
>>>> > >> we
>>>> > >>>> are
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> ready
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this
>>>> discussion,
>>>> > >> we
>>>> > >>>> can
>>>> > >>>>>> set
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote and
>>>> > >>>> undergoing
>>>> > >>>>>> the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the community [1]
>>>> > >> and
>>>> > >>>> now
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6 different
>>>> > >>> companies.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have 79
>>>> people
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3]; release
>>>> > >>> guide
>>>> > >>>> is
>>>> > >>>>>> at
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [4]
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project during
>>>> > >> incubation
>>>> > >>>> [9]
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available at [5]
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name searching has
>>>> > >>> been
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> completed
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document, and
>>>> so
>>>> > >> on
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> according
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You may
>>>> > >> help
>>>> > >>>>> check
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to
>>>> improve
>>>> > >>>> speed
>>>> > >>>>>> in
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> China
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not sure how
>>>> > >> we
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send the password on
>>>> > >> the
>>>> > >>>>>> private
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4]
>>>> depends
>>>> > >>> on
>>>> > >>>>> the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> password
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial PPMCs that
>>>> > >> had
>>>> > >>>> no
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> clear
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide on each
>>>> of
>>>> > >>>> them,
>>>> > >>>>> do
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> we
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's
>>>> decided
>>>> > >> by
>>>> > >>>> the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>> > >>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
>>>> > >>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>
>>>> >
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>
>>>> >
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>
>>>> >
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
>>>> > >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"` on
>>>> the
>>>> > >>>> master
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>>>> dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
>>>> > >> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
>>>> > >>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>>> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
>>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> --
>>>> > >>>> Yi Shen
>>>> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> --
>>>> > >> Yi Shen
>>>> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>>>> > >>
>>>> >
>>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>.
I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if no one opposes.
Thanks
*Ovilia*
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and translated tools.
> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may have a further
> discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
>
> Please check and comment if there's a problem remaining.
>
> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1] in dev@echarts
> mailing list soon.
>
> [1]
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
>
> Thanks
>
> *Ovilia*
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us with graduation. We
>> really appreciate it.
>>
>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist is [2].
>>
>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before we start a vote. So
>> please
>> tell us if you find something should be changed.
>>
>> [1]
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
>> [2]
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> *Ovilia*
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <ma...@preset.io> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and wanted to introduce
>>> myself and offer some help.
>>>
>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache Airflow (top level)
>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset community is
>>> currently
>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50] Proposal for using
>>> ECharts as our main charting library
>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>, looking
>>> forward to collaborate!
>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
>>>
>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts' graduation process
>>> as
>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a checklist and
>>> items
>>> you're looking for help/support?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <qu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF official and
>>> > community, including:
>>> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting external content
>>> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something like “this is
>>> not
>>> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie collecting
>>> announcement on
>>> > websites.
>>> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the service but also
>>> > stated out builded version can not represent official version and it
>>> is not
>>> > for re-distributing.
>>> >
>>> > Quill
>>> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will use my nickname)
>>> >
>>> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> 写道：
>>> > >
>>> > > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午7:21写道：
>>> > >
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source
>>> package
>>> > is
>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is a
>>> > change
>>> > >> or
>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no one
>>> would
>>> > >>> check.
>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about
>>> that, the
>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is the build script
>>> used
>>> > on
>>> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and voted.
>>> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still about 1.5k
>>> developers
>>> > >> using this online tool everyday.
>>> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these developers to build from
>>> > source
>>> > >> in local.
>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> > > I think you could start a discussion in the gerneral@incubator, to
>>> check
>>> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than removing it.
>>> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal simulation on that
>>> page,
>>> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at least.
>>> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all necessary env, then
>>> you
>>> > just
>>> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the pre-requirement env
>>> have
>>> > > been installed correctly.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Thanks
>>> > >>
>>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com
>>> >
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道：
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> Hi, Sheng
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an
>>> official
>>> > >>>> apache
>>> > >>>>> release.
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is bringing the
>>> local
>>> > >>> CLI
>>> > >>>> to the web.
>>> > >>>> In which developers can
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have been
>>> voted.
>>> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
>>> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js file on the
>>> > >>> browser.
>>> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the local CLI is all
>>> the
>>> > >>>> processes are on the browser.
>>> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause potential
>>> risks
>>> > >> in
>>> > >>>> it.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source
>>> package
>>> > is
>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is a
>>> > change
>>> > >> or
>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no one
>>> would
>>> > >>> check.
>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about
>>> that, the
>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Regards.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <
>>> wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
>>> > >>> wrote:
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道：
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the navigator. I
>>> thought it
>>> > >>>> meant
>>> > >>>>>> if there's a
>>> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't realize
>>> it
>>> > >>> means
>>> > >>>>> the
>>> > >>>>>> link is
>>> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
>>> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
>>> > >>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the community,
>>> > >>>> something
>>> > >>>>>> similar
>>> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted on a
>>> Baidu
>>> > >>>> server
>>> > >>>>>> and we don't
>>> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
>>> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the navigator and list it
>>> > >>> somewhere
>>> > >>>>> as
>>> > >>>>>> a
>>> > >>>>>> community resource?
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of
>>> community/ecosystem.
>>> > >> And
>>> > >>>> not
>>> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the Apache
>>> ECharts.
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2] and the
>>> > >> current
>>> > >>>>>> download-theme page
>>> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is this a
>>> > >> problem?
>>> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so they are links to
>>> > >>>> related
>>> > >>>>>> GitHub projects.
>>> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
>>> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
>>> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs about
>>> links
>>> > >> to
>>> > >>>> 3rd
>>> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
>>> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the bug/security issue
>>> when
>>> > >>> those
>>> > >>>>> extensions have issues.
>>> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as enhancement,
>>> > >>> iteration.
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We didn't put a
>>> "help
>>> > >>>>>> translate" note because
>>> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to translate and it
>>> > >> should
>>> > >>> be
>>> > >>>>>> done within a few
>>> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a "(in
>>> Chinese)"
>>> > >>> note
>>> > >>>>> in
>>> > >>>>>> the navigator.
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they could
>>> finish
>>> > >>>> those
>>> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I hope to ease
>>> > >> other
>>> > >>>>> people's concern.
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release with the least
>>> > >> source
>>> > >>>>> files
>>> > >>>>>> required.
>>> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is not using the
>>> source
>>> > >>>> files
>>> > >>>>>> voted.
>>> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the source
>>> file
>>> > >>> from
>>> > >>>>>> Apache SVN
>>> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does that seem
>>> to
>>> > >>> work
>>> > >>>>> for
>>> > >>>>>> you?
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes
>>> all
>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an
>>> official
>>> > >>>> apache
>>> > >>>>> release.
>>> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if you
>>> prefer
>>> > >> the
>>> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to repackage the
>>> > >> source
>>> > >>>>> code?
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
>>> > >>>>>> [2]
>>> > >>>>
>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
>>> > >>>>>> [3] https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>> Thanks
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
>>> > >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
>>> > >>>>>> wrote:
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do remember there
>>> was
>>> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is testing for
>>> this
>>> > >>>>> policy:
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link check in the
>>> > >>>> incubator,
>>> > >>>>>>> does
>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
>>> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
>>> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it with
>>> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is that? From
>>> > >> my
>>> > >>>>>>> reading,
>>> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s) this repo?
>>> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the
>>> > >> differences
>>> > >>>>>> between
>>> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is any
>>> > >> official
>>> > >>>>>> release
>>> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could you
>>> > >> clarify
>>> > >>>> what
>>> > >>>>>>> they
>>> > >>>>>>>> are?
>>> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are
>>> > >>> configuration
>>> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and do you
>>> > >>> have
>>> > >>>>> open
>>> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools?
>>> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website download
>>> > >>> page,
>>> > >>>>> how
>>> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the ASF
>>> > >> release
>>> > >>>>>>> process.
>>> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, no
>>> binary)
>>> > >>> is
>>> > >>>>>> never
>>> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you provide the
>>> > >> users
>>> > >>> to
>>> > >>>>>> get a
>>> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted source tars
>>> > >> make
>>> > >>>> me
>>> > >>>>>>> unsure
>>> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other mentors
>>> > >> think?
>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午10:25写道：
>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related documents and
>>> > >> see
>>> > >>> if
>>> > >>>>>>> there is
>>> > >>>>>>>>> something
>>> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <susiwen8@gmail.com
>>> >
>>> > >>>>> wrote:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all rules of
>>> > >>>> Apache,
>>> > >>>>>> and
>>> > >>>>>>>>> most
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I haven't
>>> > >>> work
>>> > >>>>> with
>>> > >>>>>>>>> them,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin Zhifeng and
>>> > >> Mr
>>> > >>>> Dong
>>> > >>>>>> Rui
>>> > >>>>>>>>> had
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even thought they
>>> > >>>> haven't
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't change the fact
>>> > >> that
>>> > >>>> they
>>> > >>>>>>> have
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as PMC in
>>> > >>> future
>>> > >>>>>> would
>>> > >>>>>>> be
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail list
>>> > >>> wasn't a
>>> > >>>>>> great
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would
>>> "steal"
>>> > >>> it,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which lots of
>>> > >>>> people
>>> > >>>>>> know
>>> > >>>>>>>>> how
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四
>>> 下午12:57写道：
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of podling
>>> > >>> website
>>> > >>>>> and
>>> > >>>>>>> it
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> is
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on email
>>> > >>> without
>>> > >>>>> any
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email clients don’t
>>> > >>>>> encrypt
>>> > >>>>>>> the
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead to a leak of
>>> > >>> content
>>> > >>>> if
>>> > >>>>>>> it’s
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better to
>>> > >> enable
>>> > >>>>> email
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw password or
>>> > >> any
>>> > >>>>> other
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the email by some
>>> > >>>> advanced
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list or
>>> > >>>> elsewhere.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should always
>>> > >> keep
>>> > >>>> the
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> founder
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts project.
>>> > >>> As I
>>> > >>>>>> know,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and develop
>>> by
>>> > >>> his
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a lot
>>> > >> since
>>> > >>>> our
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about whether
>>> > >> we
>>> > >>>> are
>>> > >>>>>>>>> ready
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this discussion,
>>> > >> we
>>> > >>>> can
>>> > >>>>>> set
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote and
>>> > >>>> undergoing
>>> > >>>>>> the
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the community [1]
>>> > >> and
>>> > >>>> now
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6 different
>>> > >>> companies.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have 79
>>> people
>>> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> to
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3]; release
>>> > >>> guide
>>> > >>>> is
>>> > >>>>>> at
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [4]
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project during
>>> > >> incubation
>>> > >>>> [9]
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available at [5]
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name searching has
>>> > >>> been
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> completed
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document, and so
>>> > >> on
>>> > >>>>>>>>> according
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You may
>>> > >> help
>>> > >>>>> check
>>> > >>>>>>>>> the
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to
>>> improve
>>> > >>>> speed
>>> > >>>>>> in
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> China
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not sure how
>>> > >> we
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send the password on
>>> > >> the
>>> > >>>>>> private
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4]
>>> depends
>>> > >>> on
>>> > >>>>> the
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> password
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial PPMCs that
>>> > >> had
>>> > >>>> no
>>> > >>>>>>>>> clear
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide on each of
>>> > >>>> them,
>>> > >>>>> do
>>> > >>>>>>>>> we
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's decided
>>> > >> by
>>> > >>>> the
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>> > >>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
>>> > >>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>
>>> >
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>
>>> >
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>
>>> >
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
>>> > >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"` on the
>>> > >>>> master
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
>>> > >> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> --
>>> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
>>> > >>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> --
>>> > >>>> Yi Shen
>>> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> --
>>> > >> Yi Shen
>>> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>>> > >>
>>> >
>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and translated tools.
We keep the custom download page unchanged and may have a further
discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
Please check and comment if there's a problem remaining.
If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1] in dev@echarts
mailing list soon.
[1]
https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
Thanks
*Ovilia*
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us with graduation. We
> really appreciate it.
>
> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist is [2].
>
> We are currently discussing potential blocks before we start a vote. So
> please
> tell us if you find something should be changed.
>
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> [2]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
>
> Thanks
>
> *Ovilia*
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <ma...@preset.io> wrote:
>
>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and wanted to introduce
>> myself and offer some help.
>>
>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache Airflow (top level)
>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset community is
>> currently
>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50] Proposal for using
>> ECharts as our main charting library
>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>, looking
>> forward to collaborate!
>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
>>
>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts' graduation process
>> as
>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a checklist and
>> items
>> you're looking for help/support?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Max
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <qu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF official and
>> > community, including:
>> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting external content
>> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something like “this is
>> not
>> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie collecting announcement
>> on
>> > websites.
>> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the service but also
>> > stated out builded version can not represent official version and it is
>> not
>> > for re-distributing.
>> >
>> > Quill
>> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will use my nickname)
>> >
>> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> 写道：
>> > >
>> > > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午7:21写道：
>> > >
>> > >>>
>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source
>> package
>> > is
>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is a
>> > change
>> > >> or
>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no one
>> would
>> > >>> check.
>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about that,
>> the
>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is the build script
>> used
>> > on
>> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and voted.
>> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still about 1.5k
>> developers
>> > >> using this online tool everyday.
>> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these developers to build from
>> > source
>> > >> in local.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > I think you could start a discussion in the gerneral@incubator, to
>> check
>> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than removing it.
>> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal simulation on that
>> page,
>> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at least.
>> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all necessary env, then you
>> > just
>> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the pre-requirement env
>> have
>> > > been installed correctly.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks
>> > >>
>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道：
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Hi, Sheng
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an
>> official
>> > >>>> apache
>> > >>>>> release.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is bringing the
>> local
>> > >>> CLI
>> > >>>> to the web.
>> > >>>> In which developers can
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have been voted.
>> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
>> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js file on the
>> > >>> browser.
>> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the local CLI is all
>> the
>> > >>>> processes are on the browser.
>> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause potential
>> risks
>> > >> in
>> > >>>> it.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source
>> package
>> > is
>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is a
>> > change
>> > >> or
>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no one
>> would
>> > >>> check.
>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about that,
>> the
>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Regards.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com
>> >
>> > >>> wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道：
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the navigator. I thought
>> it
>> > >>>> meant
>> > >>>>>> if there's a
>> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't realize it
>> > >>> means
>> > >>>>> the
>> > >>>>>> link is
>> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
>> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
>> > >>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the community,
>> > >>>> something
>> > >>>>>> similar
>> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted on a Baidu
>> > >>>> server
>> > >>>>>> and we don't
>> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
>> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the navigator and list it
>> > >>> somewhere
>> > >>>>> as
>> > >>>>>> a
>> > >>>>>> community resource?
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of
>> community/ecosystem.
>> > >> And
>> > >>>> not
>> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the Apache
>> ECharts.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2] and the
>> > >> current
>> > >>>>>> download-theme page
>> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is this a
>> > >> problem?
>> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so they are links to
>> > >>>> related
>> > >>>>>> GitHub projects.
>> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
>> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
>> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs about
>> links
>> > >> to
>> > >>>> 3rd
>> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
>> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the bug/security issue when
>> > >>> those
>> > >>>>> extensions have issues.
>> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as enhancement,
>> > >>> iteration.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We didn't put a
>> "help
>> > >>>>>> translate" note because
>> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to translate and it
>> > >> should
>> > >>> be
>> > >>>>>> done within a few
>> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a "(in
>> Chinese)"
>> > >>> note
>> > >>>>> in
>> > >>>>>> the navigator.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they could
>> finish
>> > >>>> those
>> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I hope to ease
>> > >> other
>> > >>>>> people's concern.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release with the least
>> > >> source
>> > >>>>> files
>> > >>>>>> required.
>> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is not using the
>> source
>> > >>>> files
>> > >>>>>> voted.
>> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the source
>> file
>> > >>> from
>> > >>>>>> Apache SVN
>> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does that seem
>> to
>> > >>> work
>> > >>>>> for
>> > >>>>>> you?
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an
>> official
>> > >>>> apache
>> > >>>>> release.
>> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if you prefer
>> > >> the
>> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to repackage the
>> > >> source
>> > >>>>> code?
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
>> > >>>>>> [2]
>> > >>>>
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
>> > >>>>>> [3] https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Thanks
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> *Ovilia*
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
>> > >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
>> > >>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do remember there
>> was
>> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is testing for
>> this
>> > >>>>> policy:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link check in the
>> > >>>> incubator,
>> > >>>>>>> does
>> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
>> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
>> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it with
>> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
>> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is that? From
>> > >> my
>> > >>>>>>> reading,
>> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s) this repo?
>> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the
>> > >> differences
>> > >>>>>> between
>> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is any
>> > >> official
>> > >>>>>> release
>> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could you
>> > >> clarify
>> > >>>> what
>> > >>>>>>> they
>> > >>>>>>>> are?
>> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are
>> > >>> configuration
>> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and do you
>> > >>> have
>> > >>>>> open
>> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools?
>> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website download
>> > >>> page,
>> > >>>>> how
>> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the ASF
>> > >> release
>> > >>>>>>> process.
>> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, no binary)
>> > >>> is
>> > >>>>>> never
>> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you provide the
>> > >> users
>> > >>> to
>> > >>>>>> get a
>> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted source tars
>> > >> make
>> > >>>> me
>> > >>>>>>> unsure
>> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other mentors
>> > >> think?
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午10:25写道：
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related documents and
>> > >> see
>> > >>> if
>> > >>>>>>> there is
>> > >>>>>>>>> something
>> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <su...@gmail.com>
>> > >>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all rules of
>> > >>>> Apache,
>> > >>>>>> and
>> > >>>>>>>>> most
>> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I haven't
>> > >>> work
>> > >>>>> with
>> > >>>>>>>>> them,
>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin Zhifeng and
>> > >> Mr
>> > >>>> Dong
>> > >>>>>> Rui
>> > >>>>>>>>> had
>> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even thought they
>> > >>>> haven't
>> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't change the fact
>> > >> that
>> > >>>> they
>> > >>>>>>> have
>> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as PMC in
>> > >>> future
>> > >>>>>> would
>> > >>>>>>> be
>> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail list
>> > >>> wasn't a
>> > >>>>>> great
>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would "steal"
>> > >>> it,
>> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which lots of
>> > >>>> people
>> > >>>>>> know
>> > >>>>>>>>> how
>> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四 下午12:57写道：
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of podling
>> > >>> website
>> > >>>>> and
>> > >>>>>>> it
>> > >>>>>>>>>> is
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on email
>> > >>> without
>> > >>>>> any
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email clients don’t
>> > >>>>> encrypt
>> > >>>>>>> the
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead to a leak of
>> > >>> content
>> > >>>> if
>> > >>>>>>> it’s
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better to
>> > >> enable
>> > >>>>> email
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw password or
>> > >> any
>> > >>>>> other
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the email by some
>> > >>>> advanced
>> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list or
>> > >>>> elsewhere.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should always
>> > >> keep
>> > >>>> the
>> > >>>>>>>>>> founder
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts project.
>> > >>> As I
>> > >>>>>> know,
>> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and develop by
>> > >>> his
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a lot
>> > >> since
>> > >>>> our
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about whether
>> > >> we
>> > >>>> are
>> > >>>>>>>>> ready
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this discussion,
>> > >> we
>> > >>>> can
>> > >>>>>> set
>> > >>>>>>>>>> the
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote and
>> > >>>> undergoing
>> > >>>>>> the
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the community [1]
>> > >> and
>> > >>>> now
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6 different
>> > >>> companies.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have 79 people
>> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed
>> > >>>>>>>>>> to
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3]; release
>> > >>> guide
>> > >>>> is
>> > >>>>>> at
>> > >>>>>>>>>> [4]
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project during
>> > >> incubation
>> > >>>> [9]
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available at [5]
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name searching has
>> > >>> been
>> > >>>>>>>>>> completed
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document, and so
>> > >> on
>> > >>>>>>>>> according
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You may
>> > >> help
>> > >>>>> check
>> > >>>>>>>>> the
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to improve
>> > >>>> speed
>> > >>>>>> in
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> China
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not sure how
>> > >> we
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send the password on
>> > >> the
>> > >>>>>> private
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4] depends
>> > >>> on
>> > >>>>> the
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> password
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial PPMCs that
>> > >> had
>> > >>>> no
>> > >>>>>>>>> clear
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide on each of
>> > >>>> them,
>> > >>>>> do
>> > >>>>>>>>> we
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's decided
>> > >> by
>> > >>>> the
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>> > >>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
>> > >>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
>> > >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"` on the
>> > >>>> master
>> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
>> > >> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
>> > >>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
>> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
>> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> --
>> > >>>> Yi Shen
>> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Yi Shen
>> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>> > >>
>> >
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>> >
>> >
>>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us with graduation. We
really appreciate it.
Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist is [2].
We are currently discussing potential blocks before we start a vote. So
please
tell us if you find something should be changed.
[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
[2]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
Thanks
*Ovilia*
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <ma...@preset.io> wrote:
> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and wanted to introduce
> myself and offer some help.
>
> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache Airflow (top level)
> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset community is currently
> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50] Proposal for using
> ECharts as our main charting library
> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>, looking
> forward to collaborate!
> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
>
> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts' graduation process as
> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a checklist and items
> you're looking for help/support?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Max
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <qu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF official and
> > community, including:
> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting external content
> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something like “this is
> not
> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie collecting announcement
> on
> > websites.
> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the service but also
> > stated out builded version can not represent official version and it is
> not
> > for re-distributing.
> >
> > Quill
> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will use my nickname)
> >
> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> 写道：
> > >
> > > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午7:21写道：
> > >
> > >>>
> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source package
> > is
> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is a
> > change
> > >> or
> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no one
> would
> > >>> check.
> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about that,
> the
> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is the build script used
> > on
> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and voted.
> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still about 1.5k developers
> > >> using this online tool everyday.
> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these developers to build from
> > source
> > >> in local.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I think you could start a discussion in the gerneral@incubator, to
> check
> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than removing it.
> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal simulation on that
> page,
> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at least.
> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all necessary env, then you
> > just
> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the pre-requirement env
> have
> > > been installed correctly.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >>
> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道：
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hi, Sheng
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an official
> > >>>> apache
> > >>>>> release.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is bringing the
> local
> > >>> CLI
> > >>>> to the web.
> > >>>> In which developers can
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have been voted.
> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js file on the
> > >>> browser.
> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the local CLI is all
> the
> > >>>> processes are on the browser.
> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause potential
> risks
> > >> in
> > >>>> it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source package
> > is
> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is a
> > change
> > >> or
> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no one
> would
> > >>> check.
> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about that,
> the
> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> > >>>
> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Regards.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道：
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the navigator. I thought
> it
> > >>>> meant
> > >>>>>> if there's a
> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't realize it
> > >>> means
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>> link is
> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
> > >>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the community,
> > >>>> something
> > >>>>>> similar
> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted on a Baidu
> > >>>> server
> > >>>>>> and we don't
> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the navigator and list it
> > >>> somewhere
> > >>>>> as
> > >>>>>> a
> > >>>>>> community resource?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of community/ecosystem.
> > >> And
> > >>>> not
> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the Apache
> ECharts.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2] and the
> > >> current
> > >>>>>> download-theme page
> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is this a
> > >> problem?
> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so they are links to
> > >>>> related
> > >>>>>> GitHub projects.
> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs about links
> > >> to
> > >>>> 3rd
> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the bug/security issue when
> > >>> those
> > >>>>> extensions have issues.
> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as enhancement,
> > >>> iteration.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We didn't put a
> "help
> > >>>>>> translate" note because
> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to translate and it
> > >> should
> > >>> be
> > >>>>>> done within a few
> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a "(in Chinese)"
> > >>> note
> > >>>>> in
> > >>>>>> the navigator.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they could
> finish
> > >>>> those
> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I hope to ease
> > >> other
> > >>>>> people's concern.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release with the least
> > >> source
> > >>>>> files
> > >>>>>> required.
> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is not using the
> source
> > >>>> files
> > >>>>>> voted.
> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the source file
> > >>> from
> > >>>>>> Apache SVN
> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does that seem to
> > >>> work
> > >>>>> for
> > >>>>>> you?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an official
> > >>>> apache
> > >>>>> release.
> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if you prefer
> > >> the
> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to repackage the
> > >> source
> > >>>>> code?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > >>>>>> [2]
> > >>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> > >>>>>> [3] https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
> > >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do remember there was
> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is testing for this
> > >>>>> policy:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link check in the
> > >>>> incubator,
> > >>>>>>> does
> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it with
> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is that? From
> > >> my
> > >>>>>>> reading,
> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s) this repo?
> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the
> > >> differences
> > >>>>>> between
> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is any
> > >> official
> > >>>>>> release
> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could you
> > >> clarify
> > >>>> what
> > >>>>>>> they
> > >>>>>>>> are?
> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are
> > >>> configuration
> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and do you
> > >>> have
> > >>>>> open
> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools?
> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website download
> > >>> page,
> > >>>>> how
> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the ASF
> > >> release
> > >>>>>>> process.
> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, no binary)
> > >>> is
> > >>>>>> never
> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you provide the
> > >> users
> > >>> to
> > >>>>>> get a
> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted source tars
> > >> make
> > >>>> me
> > >>>>>>> unsure
> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other mentors
> > >> think?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午10:25写道：
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related documents and
> > >> see
> > >>> if
> > >>>>>>> there is
> > >>>>>>>>> something
> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <su...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all rules of
> > >>>> Apache,
> > >>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>> most
> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I haven't
> > >>> work
> > >>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>>> them,
> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin Zhifeng and
> > >> Mr
> > >>>> Dong
> > >>>>>> Rui
> > >>>>>>>>> had
> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even thought they
> > >>>> haven't
> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't change the fact
> > >> that
> > >>>> they
> > >>>>>>> have
> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as PMC in
> > >>> future
> > >>>>>> would
> > >>>>>>> be
> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail list
> > >>> wasn't a
> > >>>>>> great
> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would "steal"
> > >>> it,
> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which lots of
> > >>>> people
> > >>>>>> know
> > >>>>>>>>> how
> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四 下午12:57写道：
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of podling
> > >>> website
> > >>>>> and
> > >>>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on email
> > >>> without
> > >>>>> any
> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email clients don’t
> > >>>>> encrypt
> > >>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead to a leak of
> > >>> content
> > >>>> if
> > >>>>>>> it’s
> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better to
> > >> enable
> > >>>>> email
> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw password or
> > >> any
> > >>>>> other
> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the email by some
> > >>>> advanced
> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns
> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list or
> > >>>> elsewhere.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should always
> > >> keep
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>> founder
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts project.
> > >>> As I
> > >>>>>> know,
> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s
> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and develop by
> > >>> his
> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a lot
> > >> since
> > >>>> our
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about whether
> > >> we
> > >>>> are
> > >>>>>>>>> ready
> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this discussion,
> > >> we
> > >>>> can
> > >>>>>> set
> > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote and
> > >>>> undergoing
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the community [1]
> > >> and
> > >>>> now
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6 different
> > >>> companies.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have 79 people
> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed
> > >>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3]; release
> > >>> guide
> > >>>> is
> > >>>>>> at
> > >>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project during
> > >> incubation
> > >>>> [9]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available at [5]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name searching has
> > >>> been
> > >>>>>>>>>> completed
> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document, and so
> > >> on
> > >>>>>>>>> according
> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You may
> > >> help
> > >>>>> check
> > >>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to improve
> > >>>> speed
> > >>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>>> China
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not sure how
> > >> we
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send the password on
> > >> the
> > >>>>>> private
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4] depends
> > >>> on
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> password
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial PPMCs that
> > >> had
> > >>>> no
> > >>>>>>>>> clear
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide on each of
> > >>>> them,
> > >>>>> do
> > >>>>>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's decided
> > >> by
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> project,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > >>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> > >>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"` on the
> > >>>> master
> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > >> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
> > >>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Yi Shen
> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Yi Shen
> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > >>
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com>.
Hi, thanks all for the suggestions.
What I thought was to provide an alternative solution that can still
provide users a convenient way to get a customized build. But also will not
violate the distribution policy.
Here are some alternatives I thought of:
1. Generate a build command from users' selection. They can copy-paste it
to run the build command in the source package locally.
2. Provide a command like `npm run build:custom` in the source release. It
will start an admin page locally, where users can choose which modules to
be included in the build.
It can be checked and tested in the release vote. But I'm not sure if it
can be deployed after release vote passed.
These two alternatives may still not as easy as the current custom builder
page. Users need a few more steps to get the customized version they want.
Add a statement like the custom-built version can not represent the
official version from Quill is a good idea if we want to keep the page. But
I'm not sure if it will let users think it is not reliable.
Do other PPMC members have any ideas?
Thanks
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <ma...@preset.io> wrote:
> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and wanted to introduce
> myself and offer some help.
>
> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache Airflow (top level)
> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset community is currently
> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50] Proposal for using
> ECharts as our main charting library
> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>, looking
> forward to collaborate!
> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
>
> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts' graduation process as
> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a checklist and items
> you're looking for help/support?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Max
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <qu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF official and
> > community, including:
> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting external content
> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something like “this is
> not
> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie collecting announcement
> on
> > websites.
> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the service but also
> > stated out builded version can not represent official version and it is
> not
> > for re-distributing.
> >
> > Quill
> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will use my nickname)
> >
> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> 写道：
> > >
> > > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午7:21写道：
> > >
> > >>>
> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source package
> > is
> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is a
> > change
> > >> or
> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no one
> would
> > >>> check.
> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about that,
> the
> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is the build script used
> > on
> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and voted.
> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still about 1.5k developers
> > >> using this online tool everyday.
> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these developers to build from
> > source
> > >> in local.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I think you could start a discussion in the gerneral@incubator, to
> check
> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than removing it.
> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal simulation on that
> page,
> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at least.
> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all necessary env, then you
> > just
> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the pre-requirement env
> have
> > > been installed correctly.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >>
> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道：
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hi, Sheng
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an official
> > >>>> apache
> > >>>>> release.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is bringing the
> local
> > >>> CLI
> > >>>> to the web.
> > >>>> In which developers can
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have been voted.
> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js file on the
> > >>> browser.
> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the local CLI is all
> the
> > >>>> processes are on the browser.
> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause potential
> risks
> > >> in
> > >>>> it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source package
> > is
> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is a
> > change
> > >> or
> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no one
> would
> > >>> check.
> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about that,
> the
> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> > >>>
> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Regards.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道：
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the navigator. I thought
> it
> > >>>> meant
> > >>>>>> if there's a
> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't realize it
> > >>> means
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>> link is
> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
> > >>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the community,
> > >>>> something
> > >>>>>> similar
> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted on a Baidu
> > >>>> server
> > >>>>>> and we don't
> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the navigator and list it
> > >>> somewhere
> > >>>>> as
> > >>>>>> a
> > >>>>>> community resource?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of community/ecosystem.
> > >> And
> > >>>> not
> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the Apache
> ECharts.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2] and the
> > >> current
> > >>>>>> download-theme page
> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is this a
> > >> problem?
> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so they are links to
> > >>>> related
> > >>>>>> GitHub projects.
> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs about links
> > >> to
> > >>>> 3rd
> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the bug/security issue when
> > >>> those
> > >>>>> extensions have issues.
> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as enhancement,
> > >>> iteration.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We didn't put a
> "help
> > >>>>>> translate" note because
> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to translate and it
> > >> should
> > >>> be
> > >>>>>> done within a few
> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a "(in Chinese)"
> > >>> note
> > >>>>> in
> > >>>>>> the navigator.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they could
> finish
> > >>>> those
> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I hope to ease
> > >> other
> > >>>>> people's concern.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release with the least
> > >> source
> > >>>>> files
> > >>>>>> required.
> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is not using the
> source
> > >>>> files
> > >>>>>> voted.
> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the source file
> > >>> from
> > >>>>>> Apache SVN
> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does that seem to
> > >>> work
> > >>>>> for
> > >>>>>> you?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an official
> > >>>> apache
> > >>>>> release.
> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if you prefer
> > >> the
> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to repackage the
> > >> source
> > >>>>> code?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > >>>>>> [2]
> > >>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> > >>>>>> [3] https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
> > >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do remember there was
> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is testing for this
> > >>>>> policy:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link check in the
> > >>>> incubator,
> > >>>>>>> does
> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it with
> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is that? From
> > >> my
> > >>>>>>> reading,
> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s) this repo?
> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the
> > >> differences
> > >>>>>> between
> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is any
> > >> official
> > >>>>>> release
> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could you
> > >> clarify
> > >>>> what
> > >>>>>>> they
> > >>>>>>>> are?
> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are
> > >>> configuration
> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and do you
> > >>> have
> > >>>>> open
> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools?
> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website download
> > >>> page,
> > >>>>> how
> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the ASF
> > >> release
> > >>>>>>> process.
> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, no binary)
> > >>> is
> > >>>>>> never
> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you provide the
> > >> users
> > >>> to
> > >>>>>> get a
> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted source tars
> > >> make
> > >>>> me
> > >>>>>>> unsure
> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other mentors
> > >> think?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午10:25写道：
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related documents and
> > >> see
> > >>> if
> > >>>>>>> there is
> > >>>>>>>>> something
> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <su...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all rules of
> > >>>> Apache,
> > >>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>> most
> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I haven't
> > >>> work
> > >>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>>> them,
> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin Zhifeng and
> > >> Mr
> > >>>> Dong
> > >>>>>> Rui
> > >>>>>>>>> had
> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even thought they
> > >>>> haven't
> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't change the fact
> > >> that
> > >>>> they
> > >>>>>>> have
> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as PMC in
> > >>> future
> > >>>>>> would
> > >>>>>>> be
> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail list
> > >>> wasn't a
> > >>>>>> great
> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would "steal"
> > >>> it,
> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which lots of
> > >>>> people
> > >>>>>> know
> > >>>>>>>>> how
> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四 下午12:57写道：
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of podling
> > >>> website
> > >>>>> and
> > >>>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on email
> > >>> without
> > >>>>> any
> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email clients don’t
> > >>>>> encrypt
> > >>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead to a leak of
> > >>> content
> > >>>> if
> > >>>>>>> it’s
> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better to
> > >> enable
> > >>>>> email
> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw password or
> > >> any
> > >>>>> other
> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the email by some
> > >>>> advanced
> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns
> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list or
> > >>>> elsewhere.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should always
> > >> keep
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>> founder
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts project.
> > >>> As I
> > >>>>>> know,
> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s
> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and develop by
> > >>> his
> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a lot
> > >> since
> > >>>> our
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about whether
> > >> we
> > >>>> are
> > >>>>>>>>> ready
> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this discussion,
> > >> we
> > >>>> can
> > >>>>>> set
> > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote and
> > >>>> undergoing
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the community [1]
> > >> and
> > >>>> now
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6 different
> > >>> companies.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have 79 people
> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed
> > >>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3]; release
> > >>> guide
> > >>>> is
> > >>>>>> at
> > >>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project during
> > >> incubation
> > >>>> [9]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available at [5]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name searching has
> > >>> been
> > >>>>>>>>>> completed
> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document, and so
> > >> on
> > >>>>>>>>> according
> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You may
> > >> help
> > >>>>> check
> > >>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to improve
> > >>>> speed
> > >>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>>> China
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not sure how
> > >> we
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send the password on
> > >> the
> > >>>>>> private
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4] depends
> > >>> on
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> password
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial PPMCs that
> > >> had
> > >>>> no
> > >>>>>>>>> clear
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide on each of
> > >>>> them,
> > >>>>> do
> > >>>>>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's decided
> > >> by
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> project,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > >>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> > >>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"` on the
> > >>>> master
> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > >> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
> > >>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Yi Shen
> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Yi Shen
> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > >>
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> >
> >
>
--
Yi Shen
Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Maxime Beauchemin <ma...@preset.io>.
Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and wanted to introduce
myself and offer some help.
My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache Airflow (top level)
and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset community is currently
voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50] Proposal for using
ECharts as our main charting library
<https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>, looking
forward to collaborate!
<https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts' graduation process as
we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a checklist and items
you're looking for help/support?
Thanks,
Max
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <qu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF official and
> community, including:
> - Using different domain other than Apache hosting external content
> including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something like “this is not
> officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie collecting announcement on
> websites.
> - For customized build service on browser, keep the service but also
> stated out builded version can not represent official version and it is not
> for re-distributing.
>
> Quill
> (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will use my nickname)
>
> > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> 写道：
> >
> > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午7:21写道：
> >
> >>>
> >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source package
> is
> >>> never been voted is my concern.
> >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is a
> change
> >> or
> >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no one would
> >>> check.
> >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about that, the
> >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I think I get your point. An important reason is the build script used
> on
> >> the custom builder page is not been checked and voted.
> >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still about 1.5k developers
> >> using this online tool everyday.
> >> We should take it carefully to guide these developers to build from
> source
> >> in local.
> >>
> >
> > I think you could start a discussion in the gerneral@incubator, to check
> > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than removing it.
> > For that page, I think you could have a terminal simulation on that page,
> > and guide users on how to use the local command at least.
> > Or provide a docker image, which including all necessary env, then you
> just
> > provide one command. Docker image could make the pre-requirement env have
> > been installed correctly.
> >
> >
> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道：
> >>>
> >>>> Hi, Sheng
> >>>>
> >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
> >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an official
> >>>> apache
> >>>>> release.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is bringing the local
> >>> CLI
> >>>> to the web.
> >>>> In which developers can
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have been voted.
> >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
> >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js file on the
> >>> browser.
> >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
> >>>>
> >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the local CLI is all the
> >>>> processes are on the browser.
> >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause potential risks
> >> in
> >>>> it.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source package
> is
> >>> never been voted is my concern.
> >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is a
> change
> >> or
> >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no one would
> >>> check.
> >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about that, the
> >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> >>>
> >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道：
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the navigator. I thought it
> >>>> meant
> >>>>>> if there's a
> >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't realize it
> >>> means
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>> link is
> >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
> >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
> >>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the community,
> >>>> something
> >>>>>> similar
> >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted on a Baidu
> >>>> server
> >>>>>> and we don't
> >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> >>>>>> How about removing the project from the navigator and list it
> >>> somewhere
> >>>>> as
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>> community resource?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of community/ecosystem.
> >> And
> >>>> not
> >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the Apache ECharts.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2] and the
> >> current
> >>>>>> download-theme page
> >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is this a
> >> problem?
> >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so they are links to
> >>>> related
> >>>>>> GitHub projects.
> >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
> >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
> >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs about links
> >> to
> >>>> 3rd
> >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
> >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the bug/security issue when
> >>> those
> >>>>> extensions have issues.
> >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as enhancement,
> >>> iteration.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We didn't put a "help
> >>>>>> translate" note because
> >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to translate and it
> >> should
> >>> be
> >>>>>> done within a few
> >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a "(in Chinese)"
> >>> note
> >>>>> in
> >>>>>> the navigator.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they could finish
> >>>> those
> >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I hope to ease
> >> other
> >>>>> people's concern.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release with the least
> >> source
> >>>>> files
> >>>>>> required.
> >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is not using the source
> >>>> files
> >>>>>> voted.
> >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the source file
> >>> from
> >>>>>> Apache SVN
> >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does that seem to
> >>> work
> >>>>> for
> >>>>>> you?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
> >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an official
> >>>> apache
> >>>>> release.
> >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if you prefer
> >> the
> >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to repackage the
> >> source
> >>>>> code?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> >>>>>> [2]
> >>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> >>>>>> [3] https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *Ovilia*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
> >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do remember there was
> >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is testing for this
> >>>>> policy:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link check in the
> >>>> incubator,
> >>>>>>> does
> >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
> >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
> >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it with
> >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is that? From
> >> my
> >>>>>>> reading,
> >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s) this repo?
> >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the
> >> differences
> >>>>>> between
> >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is any
> >> official
> >>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could you
> >> clarify
> >>>> what
> >>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>> are?
> >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are
> >>> configuration
> >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and do you
> >>> have
> >>>>> open
> >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools?
> >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website download
> >>> page,
> >>>>> how
> >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the ASF
> >> release
> >>>>>>> process.
> >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, no binary)
> >>> is
> >>>>>> never
> >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you provide the
> >> users
> >>> to
> >>>>>> get a
> >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted source tars
> >> make
> >>>> me
> >>>>>>> unsure
> >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other mentors
> >> think?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午10:25写道：
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related documents and
> >> see
> >>> if
> >>>>>>> there is
> >>>>>>>>> something
> >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <su...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all rules of
> >>>> Apache,
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> most
> >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I haven't
> >>> work
> >>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>> them,
> >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin Zhifeng and
> >> Mr
> >>>> Dong
> >>>>>> Rui
> >>>>>>>>> had
> >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even thought they
> >>>> haven't
> >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't change the fact
> >> that
> >>>> they
> >>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as PMC in
> >>> future
> >>>>>> would
> >>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail list
> >>> wasn't a
> >>>>>> great
> >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would "steal"
> >>> it,
> >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which lots of
> >>>> people
> >>>>>> know
> >>>>>>>>> how
> >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四 下午12:57写道：
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of podling
> >>> website
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on email
> >>> without
> >>>>> any
> >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email clients don’t
> >>>>> encrypt
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead to a leak of
> >>> content
> >>>> if
> >>>>>>> it’s
> >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better to
> >> enable
> >>>>> email
> >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw password or
> >> any
> >>>>> other
> >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the email by some
> >>>> advanced
> >>>>>>>>>> patterns
> >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list or
> >>>> elsewhere.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should always
> >> keep
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> founder
> >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts project.
> >>> As I
> >>>>>> know,
> >>>>>>>>>> he’s
> >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and develop by
> >>> his
> >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a lot
> >> since
> >>>> our
> >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about whether
> >> we
> >>>> are
> >>>>>>>>> ready
> >>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this discussion,
> >> we
> >>>> can
> >>>>>> set
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote and
> >>>> undergoing
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
> >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the community [1]
> >> and
> >>>> now
> >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6 different
> >>> companies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have 79 people
> >>>>>>>>> subscribed
> >>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3]; release
> >>> guide
> >>>> is
> >>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>> [4]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project during
> >> incubation
> >>>> [9]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available at [5]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name searching has
> >>> been
> >>>>>>>>>> completed
> >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
> >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document, and so
> >> on
> >>>>>>>>> according
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You may
> >> help
> >>>>> check
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to improve
> >>>> speed
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>> China
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not sure how
> >> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send the password on
> >> the
> >>>>>> private
> >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4] depends
> >>> on
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> password
> >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
> >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial PPMCs that
> >> had
> >>>> no
> >>>>>>>>> clear
> >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide on each of
> >>>> them,
> >>>>> do
> >>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>> wish
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
> >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's decided
> >> by
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> project,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> >>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"` on the
> >>>> master
> >>>>>>>>>> branch
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
> >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> >> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
> >>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Yi Shen
> >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Yi Shen
> >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> >>
>
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>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Sheng Qian <qu...@gmail.com>.
I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF official and community, including:
- Using different domain other than Apache hosting external content including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something like “this is not officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie collecting announcement on websites.
- For customized build service on browser, keep the service but also stated out builded version can not represent official version and it is not for re-distributing.
Quill
(Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will use my nickname)
> 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> 写道：
>
> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午7:21写道：
>
>>>
>>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source package is
>>> never been voted is my concern.
>>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is a change
>> or
>>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no one would
>>> check.
>>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about that, the
>>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
>>>
>>
>> I think I get your point. An important reason is the build script used on
>> the custom builder page is not been checked and voted.
>> I agree to remove this page. But there are still about 1.5k developers
>> using this online tool everyday.
>> We should take it carefully to guide these developers to build from source
>> in local.
>>
>
> I think you could start a discussion in the gerneral@incubator, to check
> others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than removing it.
> For that page, I think you could have a terminal simulation on that page,
> and guide users on how to use the local command at least.
> Or provide a docker image, which including all necessary env, then you just
> provide one command. Docker image could make the pre-requirement env have
> been installed correctly.
>
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道：
>>>
>>>> Hi, Sheng
>>>>
>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
>>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an official
>>>> apache
>>>>> release.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is bringing the local
>>> CLI
>>>> to the web.
>>>> In which developers can
>>>>
>>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have been voted.
>>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
>>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js file on the
>>> browser.
>>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
>>>>
>>>> I guess the main difference between this and the local CLI is all the
>>>> processes are on the browser.
>>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause potential risks
>> in
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source package is
>>> never been voted is my concern.
>>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is a change
>> or
>>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no one would
>>> check.
>>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about that, the
>>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
>>>
>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道：
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the navigator. I thought it
>>>> meant
>>>>>> if there's a
>>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't realize it
>>> means
>>>>> the
>>>>>> link is
>>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
>>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
>>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the community,
>>>> something
>>>>>> similar
>>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted on a Baidu
>>>> server
>>>>>> and we don't
>>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
>>>>>> How about removing the project from the navigator and list it
>>> somewhere
>>>>> as
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> community resource?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of community/ecosystem.
>> And
>>>> not
>>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the Apache ECharts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2] and the
>> current
>>>>>> download-theme page
>>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is this a
>> problem?
>>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so they are links to
>>>> related
>>>>>> GitHub projects.
>>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
>>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
>>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs about links
>> to
>>>> 3rd
>>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
>>>>> That includes, how and where to report the bug/security issue when
>>> those
>>>>> extensions have issues.
>>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as enhancement,
>>> iteration.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We didn't put a "help
>>>>>> translate" note because
>>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to translate and it
>> should
>>> be
>>>>>> done within a few
>>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a "(in Chinese)"
>>> note
>>>>> in
>>>>>> the navigator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they could finish
>>>> those
>>>>> before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I hope to ease
>> other
>>>>> people's concern.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release with the least
>> source
>>>>> files
>>>>>> required.
>>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is not using the source
>>>> files
>>>>>> voted.
>>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the source file
>>> from
>>>>>> Apache SVN
>>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does that seem to
>>> work
>>>>> for
>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
>>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an official
>>>> apache
>>>>> release.
>>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if you prefer
>> the
>>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to repackage the
>> source
>>>>> code?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
>>>>>> [2]
>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
>>>>>> [3] https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
>>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do remember there was
>>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is testing for this
>>>>> policy:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link check in the
>>>> incubator,
>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
>>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
>>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it with
>>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
>>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is that? From
>> my
>>>>>>> reading,
>>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s) this repo?
>>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the
>> differences
>>>>>> between
>>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is any
>> official
>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could you
>> clarify
>>>> what
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> are?
>>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are
>>> configuration
>>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and do you
>>> have
>>>>> open
>>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools?
>>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website download
>>> page,
>>>>> how
>>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the ASF
>> release
>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, no binary)
>>> is
>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you provide the
>> users
>>> to
>>>>>> get a
>>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted source tars
>> make
>>>> me
>>>>>>> unsure
>>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other mentors
>> think?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午10:25写道：
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related documents and
>> see
>>> if
>>>>>>> there is
>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>> to be improved?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <su...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all rules of
>>>> Apache,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I haven't
>>> work
>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> them,
>>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin Zhifeng and
>> Mr
>>>> Dong
>>>>>> Rui
>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even thought they
>>>> haven't
>>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't change the fact
>> that
>>>> they
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as PMC in
>>> future
>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> reasonable
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail list
>>> wasn't a
>>>>>> great
>>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would "steal"
>>> it,
>>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which lots of
>>>> people
>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regard
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四 下午12:57写道：
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of podling
>>> website
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on email
>>> without
>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email clients don’t
>>>>> encrypt
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead to a leak of
>>> content
>>>> if
>>>>>>> it’s
>>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better to
>> enable
>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw password or
>> any
>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the email by some
>>>> advanced
>>>>>>>>>> patterns
>>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list or
>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should always
>> keep
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> founder
>>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts project.
>>> As I
>>>>>> know,
>>>>>>>>>> he’s
>>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and develop by
>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a lot
>> since
>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about whether
>> we
>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> ready
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
>>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this discussion,
>> we
>>>> can
>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
>>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote and
>>>> undergoing
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
>>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the community [1]
>> and
>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6 different
>>> companies.
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have 79 people
>>>>>>>>> subscribed
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3]; release
>>> guide
>>>> is
>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> [4]
>>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project during
>> incubation
>>>> [9]
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available at [5]
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name searching has
>>> been
>>>>>>>>>> completed
>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
>>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document, and so
>> on
>>>>>>>>> according
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
>>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You may
>> help
>>>>> check
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
>>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to improve
>>>> speed
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> China
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not sure how
>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
>>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send the password on
>> the
>>>>>> private
>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4] depends
>>> on
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> password
>>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
>>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
>>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial PPMCs that
>> had
>>>> no
>>>>>>>>> clear
>>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
>>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide on each of
>>>> them,
>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>> wish
>>>>>>>>>>>> to make
>>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's decided
>> by
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> project,
>>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
>>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
>>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
>>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
>>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
>>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
>>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
>>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"` on the
>>>> master
>>>>>>>>>> branch
>>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
>>>>>>>>>>>> alias
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
>> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
>>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Yi Shen
>>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Yi Shen
>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>.
Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午7:21写道：
> >
> > From my side, this is not the difference. The download source package is
> > never been voted is my concern.
> > I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is a change
> or
> > unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no one would
> > check.
> > The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about that, the
> > source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> >
>
> I think I get your point. An important reason is the build script used on
> the custom builder page is not been checked and voted.
> I agree to remove this page. But there are still about 1.5k developers
> using this online tool everyday.
> We should take it carefully to guide these developers to build from source
> in local.
>
I think you could start a discussion in the gerneral@incubator, to check
others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than removing it.
For that page, I think you could have a terminal simulation on that page,
and guide users on how to use the local command at least.
Or provide a docker image, which including all necessary env, then you just
provide one command. Docker image could make the pre-requirement env have
been installed correctly.
Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108
>
> Thanks
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道：
> >
> > > Hi, Sheng
> > >
> > > The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
> > > > contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an official
> > > apache
> > > > release.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is bringing the local
> > CLI
> > > to the web.
> > > In which developers can
> > >
> > > 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have been voted.
> > > 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
> > > 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js file on the
> > browser.
> > > 4. Download the customized built js file.
> > >
> > > I guess the main difference between this and the local CLI is all the
> > > processes are on the browser.
> > > Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause potential risks
> in
> > > it.
> > >
> >
> > From my side, this is not the difference. The download source package is
> > never been voted is my concern.
> > I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is a change
> or
> > unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no one would
> > check.
> > The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about that, the
> > source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> >
> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Regards.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道：
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the navigator. I thought it
> > > meant
> > > > > if there's a
> > > > > "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't realize it
> > means
> > > > the
> > > > > link is
> > > > > mandatory. The following link should be added:
> > > > > Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Use this to check the potential issue.
> > > > https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the community,
> > > something
> > > > > similar
> > > > > to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted on a Baidu
> > > server
> > > > > and we don't
> > > > > have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> > > > > How about removing the project from the navigator and list it
> > somewhere
> > > > as
> > > > > a
> > > > > community resource?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of community/ecosystem.
> And
> > > not
> > > > a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the Apache ECharts.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2] and the
> current
> > > > > download-theme page
> > > > > uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is this a
> problem?
> > > > > Extensions are mostly made by the community so they are links to
> > > related
> > > > > GitHub projects.
> > > > > I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
> > > > > download-extention page [3] that
> > > > > these projects are made by the community.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs about links
> to
> > > 3rd
> > > > party extensions, or Apache release.
> > > > That includes, how and where to report the bug/security issue when
> > those
> > > > extensions have issues.
> > > > Also, where should hold their discussion, such as enhancement,
> > iteration.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 4. The tools are currently under translation. We didn't put a "help
> > > > > translate" note because
> > > > > we have already found the people who wish to translate and it
> should
> > be
> > > > > done within a few
> > > > > weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a "(in Chinese)"
> > note
> > > > in
> > > > > the navigator.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they could finish
> > > those
> > > > before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I hope to ease
> other
> > > > people's concern.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 5. The custom build is used to build a release with the least
> source
> > > > files
> > > > > required.
> > > > > I think the biggest concern here is that it is not using the source
> > > files
> > > > > voted.
> > > > > How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the source file
> > from
> > > > > Apache SVN
> > > > > that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does that seem to
> > work
> > > > for
> > > > > you?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
> > > > contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an official
> > > apache
> > > > release.
> > > > If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if you prefer
> the
> > > > custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to repackage the
> source
> > > > code?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > > [2]
> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> > > > > [3] https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
> > kmcgrail@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I do not know about the links checker but I do remember there was
> > > > > > something cobbled together. All it is doing is testing for this
> > > > policy:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi, Ovilia
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't remember, but there is a website link check in the
> > > incubator,
> > > > > > does
> > > > > > > anyone/mentor remember this?
> > > > > > > From I read from your website, questions
> > > > > > > 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it with
> > > > > > > http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> > > > > > > 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is that? From
> my
> > > > > > reading,
> > > > > > > it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s) this repo?
> > > > > > > 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the
> differences
> > > > > between
> > > > > > > these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is any
> official
> > > > > release
> > > > > > > process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could you
> clarify
> > > what
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > are?
> > > > > > > 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are
> > configuration
> > > > > > > generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and do you
> > have
> > > > open
> > > > > > > process about how to contribute on these tools?
> > > > > > > 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website download
> > page,
> > > > how
> > > > > > > this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the ASF
> release
> > > > > > process.
> > > > > > > Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, no binary)
> > is
> > > > > never
> > > > > > > being voted. I could get the points, seems you provide the
> users
> > to
> > > > > get a
> > > > > > > subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted source tars
> make
> > > me
> > > > > > unsure
> > > > > > > whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other mentors
> think?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午10:25写道：
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Dear mentors,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Can you help us review the graduation related documents and
> see
> > if
> > > > > > there is
> > > > > > >> something
> > > > > > >> to be improved?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Thanks
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <su...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> Hi all:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all rules of
> > > Apache,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > >> most
> > > > > > >>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I haven't
> > work
> > > > with
> > > > > > >> them,
> > > > > > >>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin Zhifeng and
> Mr
> > > Dong
> > > > > Rui
> > > > > > >> had
> > > > > > >>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even thought they
> > > haven't
> > > > > > >>> contribute during incubating but It can't change the fact
> that
> > > they
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > >>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as PMC in
> > future
> > > > > would
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > >>> reasonable
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail list
> > wasn't a
> > > > > great
> > > > > > >>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would "steal"
> > it,
> > > > > > >>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which lots of
> > > people
> > > > > know
> > > > > > >> how
> > > > > > >>> passport would be distributed.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Best regard
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Siwen Su
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四 下午12:57写道：
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> Hi,
> > > > > > >>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of podling
> > website
> > > > and
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > >>> is
> > > > > > >>>> all right for me.
> > > > > > >>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on email
> > without
> > > > any
> > > > > > >>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email clients don’t
> > > > encrypt
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >>>> email content by default and this may lead to a leak of
> > content
> > > if
> > > > > > it’s
> > > > > > >>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better to
> enable
> > > > email
> > > > > > >>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw password or
> any
> > > > other
> > > > > > >>>> important information in the content of the email by some
> > > advanced
> > > > > > >>> patterns
> > > > > > >>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list or
> > > elsewhere.
> > > > > > >>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should always
> keep
> > > the
> > > > > > >>> founder
> > > > > > >>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts project.
> > As I
> > > > > know,
> > > > > > >>> he’s
> > > > > > >>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and develop by
> > his
> > > > > > >>>> professional suggestions.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > >>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a lot
> since
> > > our
> > > > > > >>>>> incubation in Jan
> > > > > > >>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about whether
> we
> > > are
> > > > > > >> ready
> > > > > > >>>> for
> > > > > > >>>>> graduation and
> > > > > > >>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this discussion,
> we
> > > can
> > > > > set
> > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > >>>>> status to be
> > > > > > >>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> Updates since incubation:
> > > > > > >>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote and
> > > undergoing
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >>>>> process) and 7
> > > > > > >>>>> new committers were elected and joined the community [1]
> and
> > > now
> > > > > > >>>>> we have committers working for more than 6 different
> > companies.
> > > > > > >>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have 79 people
> > > > > > >> subscribed
> > > > > > >>> to
> > > > > > >>>>> it.
> > > > > > >>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3]; release
> > guide
> > > is
> > > > > at
> > > > > > >>> [4]
> > > > > > >>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project during
> incubation
> > > [9]
> > > > > > >>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available at [5]
> > > > > > >>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name searching has
> > been
> > > > > > >>> completed
> > > > > > >>>> [6]
> > > > > > >>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> 1. Website
> > > > > > >>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document, and so
> on
> > > > > > >> according
> > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>> Apache rules
> > > > > > >>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You may
> help
> > > > check
> > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > >>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> > > > > > >>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> > > > > > >>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to improve
> > > speed
> > > > > in
> > > > > > >>>> China
> > > > > > >>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not sure how
> we
> > > > > > >>>>> should distribute the
> > > > > > >>>>> password of that account? Should we send the password on
> the
> > > > > private
> > > > > > >>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > > > > > >>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4] depends
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > >>>> password
> > > > > > >>>>> of the CDN
> > > > > > >>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> > > > > > >>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial PPMCs that
> had
> > > no
> > > > > > >> clear
> > > > > > >>>>> contribution to
> > > > > > >>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide on each of
> > > them,
> > > > do
> > > > > > >> we
> > > > > > >>>> wish
> > > > > > >>>>> to make
> > > > > > >>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's decided
> by
> > > the
> > > > > > >>>> project,
> > > > > > >>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
> > > > > > >>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > > > > > >>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > > > > > >>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > > > > > >>>>> [2]
> > https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > >>>>> [3]
> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > > > > > >>>>> [4]
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > > >>>>> <
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > > >>>>> [5]
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > > > >>>>> [6]
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > > > > > >>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > > > > > >>>>> [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > > > > >>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"` on the
> > > master
> > > > > > >>> branch
> > > > > > >>>>> and merging
> > > > > > >>>>> alias
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > > > KMcGrail@Apache.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > > > > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > > > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Yi Shen
> > > Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Yi Shen
> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com>.
>
> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source package is
> never been voted is my concern.
> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is a change or
> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no one would
> check.
> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about that, the
> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
>
I think I get your point. An important reason is the build script used on
the custom builder page is not been checked and voted.
I agree to remove this page. But there are still about 1.5k developers
using this online tool everyday.
We should take it carefully to guide these developers to build from source
in local.
Thanks
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道：
>
> > Hi, Sheng
> >
> > The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
> > > contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an official
> > apache
> > > release.
> > >
> >
> > I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is bringing the local
> CLI
> > to the web.
> > In which developers can
> >
> > 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have been voted.
> > 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
> > 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js file on the
> browser.
> > 4. Download the customized built js file.
> >
> > I guess the main difference between this and the local CLI is all the
> > processes are on the browser.
> > Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause potential risks in
> > it.
> >
>
> From my side, this is not the difference. The download source package is
> never been voted is my concern.
> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is a change or
> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no one would
> check.
> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about that, the
> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道：
> > >
> > > > Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> > > >
> > > > Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> > > >
> > > > 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the navigator. I thought it
> > meant
> > > > if there's a
> > > > "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't realize it
> means
> > > the
> > > > link is
> > > > mandatory. The following link should be added:
> > > > Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Use this to check the potential issue.
> > > https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> > >
> > >
> > > > 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the community,
> > something
> > > > similar
> > > > to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted on a Baidu
> > server
> > > > and we don't
> > > > have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> > > > How about removing the project from the navigator and list it
> somewhere
> > > as
> > > > a
> > > > community resource?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of community/ecosystem. And
> > not
> > > a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the Apache ECharts.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2] and the current
> > > > download-theme page
> > > > uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is this a problem?
> > > > Extensions are mostly made by the community so they are links to
> > related
> > > > GitHub projects.
> > > > I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
> > > > download-extention page [3] that
> > > > these projects are made by the community.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs about links to
> > 3rd
> > > party extensions, or Apache release.
> > > That includes, how and where to report the bug/security issue when
> those
> > > extensions have issues.
> > > Also, where should hold their discussion, such as enhancement,
> iteration.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 4. The tools are currently under translation. We didn't put a "help
> > > > translate" note because
> > > > we have already found the people who wish to translate and it should
> be
> > > > done within a few
> > > > weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a "(in Chinese)"
> note
> > > in
> > > > the navigator.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they could finish
> > those
> > > before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I hope to ease other
> > > people's concern.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 5. The custom build is used to build a release with the least source
> > > files
> > > > required.
> > > > I think the biggest concern here is that it is not using the source
> > files
> > > > voted.
> > > > How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the source file
> from
> > > > Apache SVN
> > > > that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does that seem to
> work
> > > for
> > > > you?
> > > >
> > >
> > > The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
> > > contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an official
> > apache
> > > release.
> > > If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if you prefer the
> > > custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to repackage the source
> > > code?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > [2]
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> > > > [3] https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > *Ovilia*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
> kmcgrail@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I do not know about the links checker but I do remember there was
> > > > > something cobbled together. All it is doing is testing for this
> > > policy:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > > > > Hi, Ovilia
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't remember, but there is a website link check in the
> > incubator,
> > > > > does
> > > > > > anyone/mentor remember this?
> > > > > > From I read from your website, questions
> > > > > > 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it with
> > > > > > http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> > > > > > 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is that? From my
> > > > > reading,
> > > > > > it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s) this repo?
> > > > > > 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the differences
> > > > between
> > > > > > these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is any official
> > > > release
> > > > > > process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could you clarify
> > what
> > > > > they
> > > > > > are?
> > > > > > 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are
> configuration
> > > > > > generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and do you
> have
> > > open
> > > > > > process about how to contribute on these tools?
> > > > > > 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website download
> page,
> > > how
> > > > > > this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the ASF release
> > > > > process.
> > > > > > Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, no binary)
> is
> > > > never
> > > > > > being voted. I could get the points, seems you provide the users
> to
> > > > get a
> > > > > > subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted source tars make
> > me
> > > > > unsure
> > > > > > whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other mentors think?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午10:25写道：
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Dear mentors,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Can you help us review the graduation related documents and see
> if
> > > > > there is
> > > > > >> something
> > > > > >> to be improved?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thanks
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> *Ovilia*
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <su...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Hi all:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all rules of
> > Apache,
> > > > and
> > > > > >> most
> > > > > >>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I haven't
> work
> > > with
> > > > > >> them,
> > > > > >>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin Zhifeng and Mr
> > Dong
> > > > Rui
> > > > > >> had
> > > > > >>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even thought they
> > haven't
> > > > > >>> contribute during incubating but It can't change the fact that
> > they
> > > > > have
> > > > > >>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as PMC in
> future
> > > > would
> > > > > be
> > > > > >>> reasonable
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail list
> wasn't a
> > > > great
> > > > > >>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would "steal"
> it,
> > > > > >>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which lots of
> > people
> > > > know
> > > > > >> how
> > > > > >>> passport would be distributed.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Best regard
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Siwen Su
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四 下午12:57写道：
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> Hi,
> > > > > >>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of podling
> website
> > > and
> > > > > it
> > > > > >>> is
> > > > > >>>> all right for me.
> > > > > >>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on email
> without
> > > any
> > > > > >>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email clients don’t
> > > encrypt
> > > > > the
> > > > > >>>> email content by default and this may lead to a leak of
> content
> > if
> > > > > it’s
> > > > > >>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better to enable
> > > email
> > > > > >>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw password or any
> > > other
> > > > > >>>> important information in the content of the email by some
> > advanced
> > > > > >>> patterns
> > > > > >>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list or
> > elsewhere.
> > > > > >>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should always keep
> > the
> > > > > >>> founder
> > > > > >>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts project.
> As I
> > > > know,
> > > > > >>> he’s
> > > > > >>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and develop by
> his
> > > > > >>>> professional suggestions.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a lot since
> > our
> > > > > >>>>> incubation in Jan
> > > > > >>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about whether we
> > are
> > > > > >> ready
> > > > > >>>> for
> > > > > >>>>> graduation and
> > > > > >>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this discussion, we
> > can
> > > > set
> > > > > >>> the
> > > > > >>>>> status to be
> > > > > >>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Updates since incubation:
> > > > > >>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote and
> > undergoing
> > > > the
> > > > > >>>>> process) and 7
> > > > > >>>>> new committers were elected and joined the community [1] and
> > now
> > > > > >>>>> we have committers working for more than 6 different
> companies.
> > > > > >>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have 79 people
> > > > > >> subscribed
> > > > > >>> to
> > > > > >>>>> it.
> > > > > >>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3]; release
> guide
> > is
> > > > at
> > > > > >>> [4]
> > > > > >>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project during incubation
> > [9]
> > > > > >>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available at [5]
> > > > > >>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name searching has
> been
> > > > > >>> completed
> > > > > >>>> [6]
> > > > > >>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> 1. Website
> > > > > >>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document, and so on
> > > > > >> according
> > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > >>>>> Apache rules
> > > > > >>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You may help
> > > check
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> > > > > >>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> > > > > >>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to improve
> > speed
> > > > in
> > > > > >>>> China
> > > > > >>>>> and
> > > > > >>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not sure how we
> > > > > >>>>> should distribute the
> > > > > >>>>> password of that account? Should we send the password on the
> > > > private
> > > > > >>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > > > > >>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4] depends
> on
> > > the
> > > > > >>>> password
> > > > > >>>>> of the CDN
> > > > > >>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> > > > > >>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial PPMCs that had
> > no
> > > > > >> clear
> > > > > >>>>> contribution to
> > > > > >>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide on each of
> > them,
> > > do
> > > > > >> we
> > > > > >>>> wish
> > > > > >>>>> to make
> > > > > >>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's decided by
> > the
> > > > > >>>> project,
> > > > > >>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
> > > > > >>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > > > > >>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > > > > >>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > > > > >>>>> [2]
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > >>>>> [3]
> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > > > > >>>>> [4]
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > >>>>> <
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > > >>>>> [5]
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > > >>>>> [6]
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > > > > >>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > > > > >>>>> [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > > > >>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"` on the
> > master
> > > > > >>> branch
> > > > > >>>>> and merging
> > > > > >>>>> alias
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Thanks
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > --
> > > > > Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > > KMcGrail@Apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > > > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Yi Shen
> > Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> >
>
--
Yi Shen
Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>.
Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道：
> Hi, Sheng
>
> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
> > contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an official
> apache
> > release.
> >
>
> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is bringing the local CLI
> to the web.
> In which developers can
>
> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have been voted.
> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js file on the browser.
> 4. Download the customized built js file.
>
> I guess the main difference between this and the local CLI is all the
> processes are on the browser.
> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause potential risks in
> it.
>
From my side, this is not the difference. The download source package is
never been voted is my concern.
I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there is a change or
unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And no one would
check.
The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation about that, the
source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108
>
> Regards.
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道：
> >
> > > Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> > >
> > > Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> > >
> > > 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the navigator. I thought it
> meant
> > > if there's a
> > > "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't realize it means
> > the
> > > link is
> > > mandatory. The following link should be added:
> > > Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
> > >
> > >
> > Use this to check the potential issue.
> > https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> >
> >
> > > 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the community,
> something
> > > similar
> > > to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted on a Baidu
> server
> > > and we don't
> > > have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> > > How about removing the project from the navigator and list it somewhere
> > as
> > > a
> > > community resource?
> > >
> >
> > Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of community/ecosystem. And
> not
> > a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the Apache ECharts.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2] and the current
> > > download-theme page
> > > uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is this a problem?
> > > Extensions are mostly made by the community so they are links to
> related
> > > GitHub projects.
> > > I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
> > > download-extention page [3] that
> > > these projects are made by the community.
> > >
> >
> > I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs about links to
> 3rd
> > party extensions, or Apache release.
> > That includes, how and where to report the bug/security issue when those
> > extensions have issues.
> > Also, where should hold their discussion, such as enhancement, iteration.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > 4. The tools are currently under translation. We didn't put a "help
> > > translate" note because
> > > we have already found the people who wish to translate and it should be
> > > done within a few
> > > weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a "(in Chinese)" note
> > in
> > > the navigator.
> > >
> >
> > Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they could finish
> those
> > before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I hope to ease other
> > people's concern.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > 5. The custom build is used to build a release with the least source
> > files
> > > required.
> > > I think the biggest concern here is that it is not using the source
> files
> > > voted.
> > > How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the source file from
> > > Apache SVN
> > > that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does that seem to work
> > for
> > > you?
> > >
> >
> > The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
> > contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an official
> apache
> > release.
> > If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if you prefer the
> > custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to repackage the source
> > code?
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > [2]
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> > > [3] https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > *Ovilia*
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I do not know about the links checker but I do remember there was
> > > > something cobbled together. All it is doing is testing for this
> > policy:
> > > >
> > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > >
> > > > On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > > > Hi, Ovilia
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't remember, but there is a website link check in the
> incubator,
> > > > does
> > > > > anyone/mentor remember this?
> > > > > From I read from your website, questions
> > > > > 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it with
> > > > > http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> > > > > 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is that? From my
> > > > reading,
> > > > > it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s) this repo?
> > > > > 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the differences
> > > between
> > > > > these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is any official
> > > release
> > > > > process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could you clarify
> what
> > > > they
> > > > > are?
> > > > > 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are configuration
> > > > > generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and do you have
> > open
> > > > > process about how to contribute on these tools?
> > > > > 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website download page,
> > how
> > > > > this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the ASF release
> > > > process.
> > > > > Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, no binary) is
> > > never
> > > > > being voted. I could get the points, seems you provide the users to
> > > get a
> > > > > subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted source tars make
> me
> > > > unsure
> > > > > whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other mentors think?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午10:25写道：
> > > > >
> > > > >> Dear mentors,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Can you help us review the graduation related documents and see if
> > > > there is
> > > > >> something
> > > > >> to be improved?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks
> > > > >>
> > > > >> *Ovilia*
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <su...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Hi all:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all rules of
> Apache,
> > > and
> > > > >> most
> > > > >>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I haven't work
> > with
> > > > >> them,
> > > > >>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin Zhifeng and Mr
> Dong
> > > Rui
> > > > >> had
> > > > >>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even thought they
> haven't
> > > > >>> contribute during incubating but It can't change the fact that
> they
> > > > have
> > > > >>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as PMC in future
> > > would
> > > > be
> > > > >>> reasonable
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail list wasn't a
> > > great
> > > > >>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would "steal" it,
> > > > >>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which lots of
> people
> > > know
> > > > >> how
> > > > >>> passport would be distributed.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Best regard
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Siwen Su
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四 下午12:57写道：
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> Hi,
> > > > >>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of podling website
> > and
> > > > it
> > > > >>> is
> > > > >>>> all right for me.
> > > > >>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on email without
> > any
> > > > >>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email clients don’t
> > encrypt
> > > > the
> > > > >>>> email content by default and this may lead to a leak of content
> if
> > > > it’s
> > > > >>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better to enable
> > email
> > > > >>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw password or any
> > other
> > > > >>>> important information in the content of the email by some
> advanced
> > > > >>> patterns
> > > > >>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list or
> elsewhere.
> > > > >>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should always keep
> the
> > > > >>> founder
> > > > >>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts project. As I
> > > know,
> > > > >>> he’s
> > > > >>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and develop by his
> > > > >>>> professional suggestions.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > >>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>>> Hi all,
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a lot since
> our
> > > > >>>>> incubation in Jan
> > > > >>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about whether we
> are
> > > > >> ready
> > > > >>>> for
> > > > >>>>> graduation and
> > > > >>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this discussion, we
> can
> > > set
> > > > >>> the
> > > > >>>>> status to be
> > > > >>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Updates since incubation:
> > > > >>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote and
> undergoing
> > > the
> > > > >>>>> process) and 7
> > > > >>>>> new committers were elected and joined the community [1] and
> now
> > > > >>>>> we have committers working for more than 6 different companies.
> > > > >>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have 79 people
> > > > >> subscribed
> > > > >>> to
> > > > >>>>> it.
> > > > >>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3]; release guide
> is
> > > at
> > > > >>> [4]
> > > > >>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project during incubation
> [9]
> > > > >>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available at [5]
> > > > >>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name searching has been
> > > > >>> completed
> > > > >>>> [6]
> > > > >>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 1. Website
> > > > >>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document, and so on
> > > > >> according
> > > > >>>> to
> > > > >>>>> Apache rules
> > > > >>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You may help
> > check
> > > > >> the
> > > > >>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> > > > >>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> > > > >>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to improve
> speed
> > > in
> > > > >>>> China
> > > > >>>>> and
> > > > >>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not sure how we
> > > > >>>>> should distribute the
> > > > >>>>> password of that account? Should we send the password on the
> > > private
> > > > >>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > > > >>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4] depends on
> > the
> > > > >>>> password
> > > > >>>>> of the CDN
> > > > >>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> > > > >>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial PPMCs that had
> no
> > > > >> clear
> > > > >>>>> contribution to
> > > > >>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide on each of
> them,
> > do
> > > > >> we
> > > > >>>> wish
> > > > >>>>> to make
> > > > >>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's decided by
> the
> > > > >>>> project,
> > > > >>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
> > > > >>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > > > >>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > > > >>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > > > >>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > > > >>>>> [3]
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > > > >>>>> [4]
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > >>>>> <
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > >>>>> [5]
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > >>>>> [6]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > > > >>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > > > >>>>> [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > > >>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"` on the
> master
> > > > >>> branch
> > > > >>>>> and merging
> > > > >>>>> alias
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Thanks
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > --
> > > > Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > KMcGrail@Apache.org
> > > >
> > > > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Yi Shen
> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com>.
Hi, Sheng
The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an official apache
> release.
>
I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is bringing the local CLI
to the web.
In which developers can
1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have been voted.
2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js file on the browser.
4. Download the customized built js file.
I guess the main difference between this and the local CLI is all the
processes are on the browser.
Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause potential risks in it.
Regards.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道：
>
> > Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> >
> > Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> >
> > 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the navigator. I thought it meant
> > if there's a
> > "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't realize it means
> the
> > link is
> > mandatory. The following link should be added:
> > Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
> >
> >
> Use this to check the potential issue.
> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
>
>
> > 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the community, something
> > similar
> > to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted on a Baidu server
> > and we don't
> > have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> > How about removing the project from the navigator and list it somewhere
> as
> > a
> > community resource?
> >
>
> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of community/ecosystem. And not
> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the Apache ECharts.
>
>
> >
> > 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2] and the current
> > download-theme page
> > uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is this a problem?
> > Extensions are mostly made by the community so they are links to related
> > GitHub projects.
> > I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
> > download-extention page [3] that
> > these projects are made by the community.
> >
>
> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs about links to 3rd
> party extensions, or Apache release.
> That includes, how and where to report the bug/security issue when those
> extensions have issues.
> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as enhancement, iteration.
>
>
> >
> >
> > 4. The tools are currently under translation. We didn't put a "help
> > translate" note because
> > we have already found the people who wish to translate and it should be
> > done within a few
> > weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a "(in Chinese)" note
> in
> > the navigator.
> >
>
> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they could finish those
> before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I hope to ease other
> people's concern.
>
>
> >
> > 5. The custom build is used to build a release with the least source
> files
> > required.
> > I think the biggest concern here is that it is not using the source files
> > voted.
> > How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the source file from
> > Apache SVN
> > that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does that seem to work
> for
> > you?
> >
>
> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an official apache
> release.
> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if you prefer the
> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to repackage the source
> code?
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > [2] https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> > [3] https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > *Ovilia*
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I do not know about the links checker but I do remember there was
> > > something cobbled together. All it is doing is testing for this
> policy:
> > >
> > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > >
> > > On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > > Hi, Ovilia
> > > >
> > > > I don't remember, but there is a website link check in the incubator,
> > > does
> > > > anyone/mentor remember this?
> > > > From I read from your website, questions
> > > > 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it with
> > > > http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> > > > 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is that? From my
> > > reading,
> > > > it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s) this repo?
> > > > 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the differences
> > between
> > > > these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is any official
> > release
> > > > process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could you clarify what
> > > they
> > > > are?
> > > > 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are configuration
> > > > generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and do you have
> open
> > > > process about how to contribute on these tools?
> > > > 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website download page,
> how
> > > > this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the ASF release
> > > process.
> > > > Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, no binary) is
> > never
> > > > being voted. I could get the points, seems you provide the users to
> > get a
> > > > subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted source tars make me
> > > unsure
> > > > whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other mentors think?
> > > >
> > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午10:25写道：
> > > >
> > > >> Dear mentors,
> > > >>
> > > >> Can you help us review the graduation related documents and see if
> > > there is
> > > >> something
> > > >> to be improved?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks
> > > >>
> > > >> *Ovilia*
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <su...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi all:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all rules of Apache,
> > and
> > > >> most
> > > >>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I haven't work
> with
> > > >> them,
> > > >>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin Zhifeng and Mr Dong
> > Rui
> > > >> had
> > > >>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even thought they haven't
> > > >>> contribute during incubating but It can't change the fact that they
> > > have
> > > >>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as PMC in future
> > would
> > > be
> > > >>> reasonable
> > > >>>
> > > >>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail list wasn't a
> > great
> > > >>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would "steal" it,
> > > >>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which lots of people
> > know
> > > >> how
> > > >>> passport would be distributed.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Best regard
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Siwen Su
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四 下午12:57写道：
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Hi,
> > > >>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of podling website
> and
> > > it
> > > >>> is
> > > >>>> all right for me.
> > > >>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on email without
> any
> > > >>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email clients don’t
> encrypt
> > > the
> > > >>>> email content by default and this may lead to a leak of content if
> > > it’s
> > > >>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better to enable
> email
> > > >>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw password or any
> other
> > > >>>> important information in the content of the email by some advanced
> > > >>> patterns
> > > >>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list or elsewhere.
> > > >>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should always keep the
> > > >>> founder
> > > >>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts project. As I
> > know,
> > > >>> he’s
> > > >>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and develop by his
> > > >>>> professional suggestions.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > >>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>> Hi all,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a lot since our
> > > >>>>> incubation in Jan
> > > >>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about whether we are
> > > >> ready
> > > >>>> for
> > > >>>>> graduation and
> > > >>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this discussion, we can
> > set
> > > >>> the
> > > >>>>> status to be
> > > >>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Updates since incubation:
> > > >>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote and undergoing
> > the
> > > >>>>> process) and 7
> > > >>>>> new committers were elected and joined the community [1] and now
> > > >>>>> we have committers working for more than 6 different companies.
> > > >>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have 79 people
> > > >> subscribed
> > > >>> to
> > > >>>>> it.
> > > >>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3]; release guide is
> > at
> > > >>> [4]
> > > >>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project during incubation [9]
> > > >>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available at [5]
> > > >>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name searching has been
> > > >>> completed
> > > >>>> [6]
> > > >>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 1. Website
> > > >>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document, and so on
> > > >> according
> > > >>>> to
> > > >>>>> Apache rules
> > > >>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You may help
> check
> > > >> the
> > > >>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> > > >>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> > > >>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to improve speed
> > in
> > > >>>> China
> > > >>>>> and
> > > >>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not sure how we
> > > >>>>> should distribute the
> > > >>>>> password of that account? Should we send the password on the
> > private
> > > >>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > > >>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4] depends on
> the
> > > >>>> password
> > > >>>>> of the CDN
> > > >>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> > > >>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial PPMCs that had no
> > > >> clear
> > > >>>>> contribution to
> > > >>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide on each of them,
> do
> > > >> we
> > > >>>> wish
> > > >>>>> to make
> > > >>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's decided by the
> > > >>>> project,
> > > >>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
> > > >>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > > >>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > > >>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > > >>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > > >>>>> [3]
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > > >>>>> [4]
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > >>>>> <
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > >>>>> [5]
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > >>>>> [6] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > > >>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > > >>>>> [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > >>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"` on the master
> > > >>> branch
> > > >>>>> and merging
> > > >>>>> alias
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Thanks
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > --
> > > Kevin A. McGrail
> > > KMcGrail@Apache.org
> > >
> > > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
>
--
Yi Shen
Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>.
Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道：
> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
>
> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
>
> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the navigator. I thought it meant
> if there's a
> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't realize it means the
> link is
> mandatory. The following link should be added:
> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
>
>
Use this to check the potential issue.
https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the community, something
> similar
> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted on a Baidu server
> and we don't
> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> How about removing the project from the navigator and list it somewhere as
> a
> community resource?
>
Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of community/ecosystem. And not
a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the Apache ECharts.
>
> 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2] and the current
> download-theme page
> uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is this a problem?
> Extensions are mostly made by the community so they are links to related
> GitHub projects.
> I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
> download-extention page [3] that
> these projects are made by the community.
>
I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs about links to 3rd
party extensions, or Apache release.
That includes, how and where to report the bug/security issue when those
extensions have issues.
Also, where should hold their discussion, such as enhancement, iteration.
>
>
> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We didn't put a "help
> translate" note because
> we have already found the people who wish to translate and it should be
> done within a few
> weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a "(in Chinese)" note in
> the navigator.
>
Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they could finish those
before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I hope to ease other
people's concern.
>
> 5. The custom build is used to build a release with the least source files
> required.
> I think the biggest concern here is that it is not using the source files
> voted.
> How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the source file from
> Apache SVN
> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does that seem to work for
> you?
>
The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which includes all
contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an official apache
release.
If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if you prefer the
custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to repackage the source code?
>
>
>
> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> [2] https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> [3] https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
>
> Thanks
>
> *Ovilia*
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > I do not know about the links checker but I do remember there was
> > something cobbled together. All it is doing is testing for this policy:
> >
> > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> >
> > On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > Hi, Ovilia
> > >
> > > I don't remember, but there is a website link check in the incubator,
> > does
> > > anyone/mentor remember this?
> > > From I read from your website, questions
> > > 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it with
> > > http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> > > 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is that? From my
> > reading,
> > > it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s) this repo?
> > > 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the differences
> between
> > > these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is any official
> release
> > > process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could you clarify what
> > they
> > > are?
> > > 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are configuration
> > > generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and do you have open
> > > process about how to contribute on these tools?
> > > 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website download page, how
> > > this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the ASF release
> > process.
> > > Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, no binary) is
> never
> > > being voted. I could get the points, seems you provide the users to
> get a
> > > subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted source tars make me
> > unsure
> > > whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other mentors think?
> > >
> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > >
> > > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午10:25写道：
> > >
> > >> Dear mentors,
> > >>
> > >> Can you help us review the graduation related documents and see if
> > there is
> > >> something
> > >> to be improved?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >>
> > >> *Ovilia*
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <su...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi all:
> > >>>
> > >>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all rules of Apache,
> and
> > >> most
> > >>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> > >>>
> > >>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I haven't work with
> > >> them,
> > >>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin Zhifeng and Mr Dong
> Rui
> > >> had
> > >>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even thought they haven't
> > >>> contribute during incubating but It can't change the fact that they
> > have
> > >>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as PMC in future
> would
> > be
> > >>> reasonable
> > >>>
> > >>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail list wasn't a
> great
> > >>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would "steal" it,
> > >>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which lots of people
> know
> > >> how
> > >>> passport would be distributed.
> > >>>
> > >>> Best regard
> > >>>
> > >>> Siwen Su
> > >>>
> > >>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四 下午12:57写道：
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hi,
> > >>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of podling website and
> > it
> > >>> is
> > >>>> all right for me.
> > >>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on email without any
> > >>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email clients don’t encrypt
> > the
> > >>>> email content by default and this may lead to a leak of content if
> > it’s
> > >>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better to enable email
> > >>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw password or any other
> > >>>> important information in the content of the email by some advanced
> > >>> patterns
> > >>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list or elsewhere.
> > >>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should always keep the
> > >>> founder
> > >>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts project. As I
> know,
> > >>> he’s
> > >>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and develop by his
> > >>>> professional suggestions.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>> Hi all,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a lot since our
> > >>>>> incubation in Jan
> > >>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about whether we are
> > >> ready
> > >>>> for
> > >>>>> graduation and
> > >>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this discussion, we can
> set
> > >>> the
> > >>>>> status to be
> > >>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Updates since incubation:
> > >>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote and undergoing
> the
> > >>>>> process) and 7
> > >>>>> new committers were elected and joined the community [1] and now
> > >>>>> we have committers working for more than 6 different companies.
> > >>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have 79 people
> > >> subscribed
> > >>> to
> > >>>>> it.
> > >>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3]; release guide is
> at
> > >>> [4]
> > >>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project during incubation [9]
> > >>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available at [5]
> > >>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name searching has been
> > >>> completed
> > >>>> [6]
> > >>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 1. Website
> > >>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document, and so on
> > >> according
> > >>>> to
> > >>>>> Apache rules
> > >>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You may help check
> > >> the
> > >>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> > >>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> > >>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to improve speed
> in
> > >>>> China
> > >>>>> and
> > >>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not sure how we
> > >>>>> should distribute the
> > >>>>> password of that account? Should we send the password on the
> private
> > >>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > >>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4] depends on the
> > >>>> password
> > >>>>> of the CDN
> > >>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> > >>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial PPMCs that had no
> > >> clear
> > >>>>> contribution to
> > >>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide on each of them, do
> > >> we
> > >>>> wish
> > >>>>> to make
> > >>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's decided by the
> > >>>> project,
> > >>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
> > >>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > >>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > >>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > >>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>>> [3] https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > >>>>> [4]
> > >>>>>
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > >>>>> <
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > >>>>> [5]
> > >>>>>
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > >>>>> [6] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > >>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > >>>>> [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > >>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"` on the master
> > >>> branch
> > >>>>> and merging
> > >>>>> alias
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> *Ovilia*
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > --
> > Kevin A. McGrail
> > KMcGrail@Apache.org
> >
> > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Sheng for the checking.
Here're my thoughts on these issues:
1. I was referring to [1] when checking the navigator. I thought it meant
if there's a
"Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't realize it means the
link is
mandatory. The following link should be added:
Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the community, something
similar
to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted on a Baidu server
and we don't
have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
How about removing the project from the navigator and list it somewhere as a
community resource?
3. Theme files are included in the source release [2] and the current
download-theme page
uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is this a problem?
Extensions are mostly made by the community so they are links to related
GitHub projects.
I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
download-extention page [3] that
these projects are made by the community.
4. The tools are currently under translation. We didn't put a "help
translate" note because
we have already found the people who wish to translate and it should be
done within a few
weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a "(in Chinese)" note in
the navigator.
5. The custom build is used to build a release with the least source files
required.
I think the biggest concern here is that it is not using the source files
voted.
How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the source file from
Apache SVN
that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does that seem to work for
you?
[1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
[2] https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
[3] https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
Thanks
*Ovilia*
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
wrote:
> I do not know about the links checker but I do remember there was
> something cobbled together. All it is doing is testing for this policy:
>
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
>
> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > Hi, Ovilia
> >
> > I don't remember, but there is a website link check in the incubator,
> does
> > anyone/mentor remember this?
> > From I read from your website, questions
> > 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it with
> > http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> > 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is that? From my
> reading,
> > it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s) this repo?
> > 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the differences between
> > these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is any official release
> > process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could you clarify what
> they
> > are?
> > 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are configuration
> > generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and do you have open
> > process about how to contribute on these tools?
> > 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website download page, how
> > this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the ASF release
> process.
> > Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, no binary) is never
> > being voted. I could get the points, seems you provide the users to get a
> > subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted source tars make me
> unsure
> > whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other mentors think?
> >
> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> > Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午10:25写道：
> >
> >> Dear mentors,
> >>
> >> Can you help us review the graduation related documents and see if
> there is
> >> something
> >> to be improved?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> *Ovilia*
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <su...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi all:
> >>>
> >>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all rules of Apache, and
> >> most
> >>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> >>>
> >>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I haven't work with
> >> them,
> >>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin Zhifeng and Mr Dong Rui
> >> had
> >>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even thought they haven't
> >>> contribute during incubating but It can't change the fact that they
> have
> >>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as PMC in future would
> be
> >>> reasonable
> >>>
> >>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail list wasn't a great
> >>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would "steal" it,
> >>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which lots of people know
> >> how
> >>> passport would be distributed.
> >>>
> >>> Best regard
> >>>
> >>> Siwen Su
> >>>
> >>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四 下午12:57写道：
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of podling website and
> it
> >>> is
> >>>> all right for me.
> >>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on email without any
> >>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email clients don’t encrypt
> the
> >>>> email content by default and this may lead to a leak of content if
> it’s
> >>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better to enable email
> >>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw password or any other
> >>>> important information in the content of the email by some advanced
> >>> patterns
> >>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list or elsewhere.
> >>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should always keep the
> >>> founder
> >>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts project. As I know,
> >>> he’s
> >>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and develop by his
> >>>> professional suggestions.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a lot since our
> >>>>> incubation in Jan
> >>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about whether we are
> >> ready
> >>>> for
> >>>>> graduation and
> >>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this discussion, we can set
> >>> the
> >>>>> status to be
> >>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Updates since incubation:
> >>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote and undergoing the
> >>>>> process) and 7
> >>>>> new committers were elected and joined the community [1] and now
> >>>>> we have committers working for more than 6 different companies.
> >>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have 79 people
> >> subscribed
> >>> to
> >>>>> it.
> >>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3]; release guide is at
> >>> [4]
> >>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project during incubation [9]
> >>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available at [5]
> >>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name searching has been
> >>> completed
> >>>> [6]
> >>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. Website
> >>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document, and so on
> >> according
> >>>> to
> >>>>> Apache rules
> >>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You may help check
> >> the
> >>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> >>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> >>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to improve speed in
> >>>> China
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not sure how we
> >>>>> should distribute the
> >>>>> password of that account? Should we send the password on the private
> >>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> >>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4] depends on the
> >>>> password
> >>>>> of the CDN
> >>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> >>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial PPMCs that had no
> >> clear
> >>>>> contribution to
> >>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide on each of them, do
> >> we
> >>>> wish
> >>>>> to make
> >>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's decided by the
> >>>> project,
> >>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
> >>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> >>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> >>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> >>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> >>>>> [3] https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> >>>>> [4]
> >>>>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> >>>>> <
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> >>>>> [5]
> >>>>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> >>>>> [6] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> >>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> >>>>> [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> >>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"` on the master
> >>> branch
> >>>>> and merging
> >>>>> alias
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *Ovilia*
> >>>>>
> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> >>>>
> >>>>
> --
> Kevin A. McGrail
> KMcGrail@Apache.org
>
> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <km...@apache.org>.
I do not know about the links checker but I do remember there was
something cobbled together. All it is doing is testing for this policy:
https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> Hi, Ovilia
>
> I don't remember, but there is a website link check in the incubator, does
> anyone/mentor remember this?
> From I read from your website, questions
> 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it with
> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is that? From my reading,
> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s) this repo?
> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the differences between
> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is any official release
> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could you clarify what they
> are?
> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are configuration
> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and do you have open
> process about how to contribute on these tools?
> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website download page, how
> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the ASF release process.
> Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, no binary) is never
> being voted. I could get the points, seems you provide the users to get a
> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted source tars make me unsure
> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other mentors think?
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午10:25写道：
>
>> Dear mentors,
>>
>> Can you help us review the graduation related documents and see if there is
>> something
>> to be improved?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> *Ovilia*
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <su...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all:
>>>
>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all rules of Apache, and
>> most
>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
>>>
>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I haven't work with
>> them,
>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin Zhifeng and Mr Dong Rui
>> had
>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even thought they haven't
>>> contribute during incubating but It can't change the fact that they have
>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as PMC in future would be
>>> reasonable
>>>
>>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail list wasn't a great
>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would "steal" it,
>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which lots of people know
>> how
>>> passport would be distributed.
>>>
>>> Best regard
>>>
>>> Siwen Su
>>>
>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四 下午12:57写道：
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of podling website and it
>>> is
>>>> all right for me.
>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on email without any
>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email clients don’t encrypt the
>>>> email content by default and this may lead to a leak of content if it’s
>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better to enable email
>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw password or any other
>>>> important information in the content of the email by some advanced
>>> patterns
>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list or elsewhere.
>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should always keep the
>>> founder
>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts project. As I know,
>>> he’s
>>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and develop by his
>>>> professional suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
>>>>
>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a lot since our
>>>>> incubation in Jan
>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about whether we are
>> ready
>>>> for
>>>>> graduation and
>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this discussion, we can set
>>> the
>>>>> status to be
>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
>>>>>
>>>>> Updates since incubation:
>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote and undergoing the
>>>>> process) and 7
>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the community [1] and now
>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6 different companies.
>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have 79 people
>> subscribed
>>> to
>>>>> it.
>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3]; release guide is at
>>> [4]
>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project during incubation [9]
>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available at [5]
>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name searching has been
>>> completed
>>>> [6]
>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Website
>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document, and so on
>> according
>>>> to
>>>>> Apache rules
>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You may help check
>> the
>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
>>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to improve speed in
>>>> China
>>>>> and
>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not sure how we
>>>>> should distribute the
>>>>> password of that account? Should we send the password on the private
>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4] depends on the
>>>> password
>>>>> of the CDN
>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial PPMCs that had no
>> clear
>>>>> contribution to
>>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide on each of them, do
>> we
>>>> wish
>>>>> to make
>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's decided by the
>>>> project,
>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
>>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
>>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
>>>>> [3] https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
>>>>> [4]
>>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
>>>>> <
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
>>>>> [5]
>>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
>>>>> [6] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
>>>>> [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"` on the master
>>> branch
>>>>> and merging
>>>>> alias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> *Ovilia*
>>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@echarts.apache.org
>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
--
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KMcGrail@Apache.org
Member, Apache Software Foundation
Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>.
Hi, Ovilia
I don't remember, but there is a website link check in the incubator, does
anyone/mentor remember this?
From I read from your website, questions
1. There are some links missing. You could compare it with
http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is that? From my reading,
it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s) this repo?
3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the differences between
these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is any official release
process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could you clarify what they
are?
4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are configuration
generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and do you have open
process about how to contribute on these tools?
5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website download page, how
this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the ASF release process.
Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, no binary) is never
being voted. I could get the points, seems you provide the users to get a
subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted source tars make me unsure
whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other mentors think?
Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108
Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午10:25写道：
> Dear mentors,
>
> Can you help us review the graduation related documents and see if there is
> something
> to be improved?
>
> Thanks
>
> *Ovilia*
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <su...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all:
> >
> > I have nothing to say about website, It apply all rules of Apache, and
> most
> > importantly, add some very useful features.
> >
> > About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I haven't work with
> them,
> > but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin Zhifeng and Mr Dong Rui
> had
> > made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even thought they haven't
> > contribute during incubating but It can't change the fact that they have
> > laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as PMC in future would be
> > reasonable
> >
> > As for the password, distribute it via private mail list wasn't a great
> > idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would "steal" it,
> > especially we have discussed on dev mail list which lots of people know
> how
> > passport would be distributed.
> >
> > Best regard
> >
> > Siwen Su
> >
> > Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四 下午12:57写道：
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > 1. The current website is following the guide of podling website and it
> > is
> > > all right for me.
> > > 2. Sending an important private key or password on email without any
> > > encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email clients don’t encrypt the
> > > email content by default and this may lead to a leak of content if it’s
> > > intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better to enable email
> > > encryption in email client and encrypt the raw password or any other
> > > important information in the content of the email by some advanced
> > patterns
> > > difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list or elsewhere.
> > > 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should always keep the
> > founder
> > > Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts project. As I know,
> > he’s
> > > been helping silently ECharts project improve and develop by his
> > > professional suggestions.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Zhongxiang Wang.
> > >
> > > On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a lot since our
> > > > incubation in Jan
> > > > 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about whether we are
> ready
> > > for
> > > > graduation and
> > > > what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this discussion, we can set
> > the
> > > > status to be
> > > > "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > > >
> > > > Updates since incubation:
> > > > - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote and undergoing the
> > > > process) and 7
> > > > new committers were elected and joined the community [1] and now
> > > > we have committers working for more than 6 different companies.
> > > > - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have 79 people
> subscribed
> > to
> > > > it.
> > > > - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3]; release guide is at
> > [4]
> > > > - 73 people have contributed to the project during incubation [9]
> > > > - Assessment of the maturity model is available at [5]
> > > > - Branding issues have been solved and name searching has been
> > completed
> > > [6]
> > > >
> > > > Other things we need to discuss:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Website
> > > > We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document, and so on
> according
> > > to
> > > > Apache rules
> > > > and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You may help check
> the
> > > > rules [8] and discuss
> > > > the ones that you think need to change.
> > > >
> > > > 2. Sponsored CDN
> > > > We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to improve speed in
> > > China
> > > > and
> > > > created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not sure how we
> > > > should distribute the
> > > > password of that account? Should we send the password on the private
> > > > mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > > > Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4] depends on the
> > > password
> > > > of the CDN
> > > > private key. How should we distribute it?
> > > >
> > > > 3. PMCs and Committers
> > > > We have to discuss what to do with the initial PPMCs that had no
> clear
> > > > contribution to
> > > > the project during incubation. We should decide on each of them, do
> we
> > > wish
> > > > to make
> > > > him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's decided by the
> > > project,
> > > > so please talk about how you feel about this.
> > > > a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > > > b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > > > c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > > > [2] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > > > [3] https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > > > [4]
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > > <
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > >
> > > > [5]
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > > [6] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > > > [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > > > [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > > [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"` on the master
> > branch
> > > > and merging
> > > > alias
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > *Ovilia*
> > > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@echarts.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ECharts (incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>.
Dear mentors,
Can you help us review the graduation related documents and see if there is
something
to be improved?
Thanks
*Ovilia*
On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <su...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all rules of Apache, and most
> importantly, add some very useful features.
>
> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I haven't work with them,
> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin Zhifeng and Mr Dong Rui had
> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even thought they haven't
> contribute during incubating but It can't change the fact that they have
> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as PMC in future would be
> reasonable
>
> As for the password, distribute it via private mail list wasn't a great
> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would "steal" it,
> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which lots of people know how
> passport would be distributed.
>
> Best regard
>
> Siwen Su
>
> Zhongxiang Wang <wa...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四 下午12:57写道：
>
> > Hi,
> > 1. The current website is following the guide of podling website and it
> is
> > all right for me.
> > 2. Sending an important private key or password on email without any
> > encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email clients don’t encrypt the
> > email content by default and this may lead to a leak of content if it’s
> > intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better to enable email
> > encryption in email client and encrypt the raw password or any other
> > important information in the content of the email by some advanced
> patterns
> > difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list or elsewhere.
> > 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should always keep the
> founder
> > Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts project. As I know,
> he’s
> > been helping silently ECharts project improve and develop by his
> > professional suggestions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Zhongxiang Wang.
> >
> > On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a lot since our
> > > incubation in Jan
> > > 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about whether we are ready
> > for
> > > graduation and
> > > what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this discussion, we can set
> the
> > > status to be
> > > "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > >
> > > Updates since incubation:
> > > - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote and undergoing the
> > > process) and 7
> > > new committers were elected and joined the community [1] and now
> > > we have committers working for more than 6 different companies.
> > > - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have 79 people subscribed
> to
> > > it.
> > > - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3]; release guide is at
> [4]
> > > - 73 people have contributed to the project during incubation [9]
> > > - Assessment of the maturity model is available at [5]
> > > - Branding issues have been solved and name searching has been
> completed
> > [6]
> > >
> > > Other things we need to discuss:
> > >
> > > 1. Website
> > > We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document, and so on according
> > to
> > > Apache rules
> > > and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You may help check the
> > > rules [8] and discuss
> > > the ones that you think need to change.
> > >
> > > 2. Sponsored CDN
> > > We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to improve speed in
> > China
> > > and
> > > created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not sure how we
> > > should distribute the
> > > password of that account? Should we send the password on the private
> > > mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > > Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4] depends on the
> > password
> > > of the CDN
> > > private key. How should we distribute it?
> > >
> > > 3. PMCs and Committers
> > > We have to discuss what to do with the initial PPMCs that had no clear
> > > contribution to
> > > the project during incubation. We should decide on each of them, do we
> > wish
> > > to make
> > > him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's decided by the
> > project,
> > > so please talk about how you feel about this.
> > > a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > > b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > > c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > > [2] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > > [3] https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > > [4]
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > <
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > >
> > > [5]
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > [6] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > > [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > > [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"` on the master
> branch
> > > and merging
> > > alias
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > *Ovilia*
> > >
> >
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> >
> >
>