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Re: struts 2.1 beta

For performance problems, be sure to follow the advice on this page.

 * http://struts.apache.org/2.x/docs/performance-tuning.html

If you do all of these things, and still consider the performance
unacceptable, then I doubt that Struts 2.1 will make a startling
difference. If performance is the key concern, then Struts 1 is still
the best choice. I also understand that Tapestry performs well.

If it helps, I'll post a link to a temporary Struts 2.1 snapshot, with
all the dependencies, on the developers list. As soon as XWork 2.1.0
is available, we'll roll a Struts 2.1.0 distribution for testing,
which should be "real soon now".

 * http://www.nabble.com/Struts---Dev-f205.html

-- HTH, Ted
Attend "Migrating to Ajax" at ApacheCon US 2007:
 * http://us.apachecon.com/us2007/program/talk/1883


On 9/25/07, meissa.sakho@investorservicing.natixis.fr
<me...@investorservicing.natixis.fr> wrote:
>
> That's exactly what I wanted. I new complete un-released version.
> But at this time, I'm giving up. To tired.
> I'll restart using struts when a version without the dreadfull performance
> impact will be around.
>
> I hope that we'll get it before the end of the century.
>
> Meissa
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dave Newton <ne...@yahoo.com>
> 25/09/2007 14:56
> Veuillez répondre à
> "Struts Users Mailing List" <us...@struts.apache.org>
>
>
> A
> Struts Users Mailing List <us...@struts.apache.org>
> cc
>
> Objet
> Re: struts 2.1 beta
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If you want a complete build of an un-released version
> then AFAIK you need to build it from source. The
> repository contains the dependent libraries.
>
> The nightly builds are just that, builds, not
> distributions (again, AFAIK).
>
> --- meissa.sakho@investorservicing.natixis.fr wrote:
> > I just need to grab the nightly version WITH
> > DEPENDANTS LIBRAIRIES if it exist.
> > the link below
> >
> http://struts.apache.org/2.x/docs/building-the-framework-from-source.html
> > drive me to that one
> >
> http://people.apache.org/builds/struts/nightlies/2.x/
> >
> > No librairies.
> > Meissa
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave Newton <ne...@yahoo.com>
> > 25/09/2007 14:28
> > Veuillez répondre à
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> >
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> > Objet
> > Re: struts 2.1 beta
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Oleg Mikheev <mi...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> > > Dave Newton wrote:
> > > >> I have just renamed it to struts2-core.jar and
> > > >> replaced in my application that was working
> > with
> > > >> 2.0.9 version.
> > > >
> > > > You can't just randomly replace libraries.
> > >
> > > You can replace 2.0.8 with 2.0.9, but you can't
> > > replace 2.0.9 with 2.1.0
> >
> > You certainly *could*, but it would still make me
> > nervous w/o testing since XWork revved also... I
> > guess
> > I always think that dropping in a new library
> > revision
> > w/o keeping track of library dependencies is risky.
> >
> > d.
> >
> >
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Re: struts 2.1 beta

Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
If it does, please feel free to file a issue ticket against 2.1.0.

 * https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/WW/fixforversion/21794

-Ted.

On 10/4/07, meissa.sakho@investorservicing.natixis.fr
<me...@investorservicing.natixis.fr> wrote:
>
> We did all of the things described in the performance-tuning tips.
> But we've been using intensively ajax tag (datetime picker and
> autocompleter).
> Theses two tags force us to include the killing head tag.
> When we removed them (removing the head tag in the same time) our pages
> are faster (a least 5 times).
>
> I think that if the head tag will still kill performance on 2.1. It should
> be told in the performance tip.
>
> It will surely help posting a link to a temporary struts 2.1 version.
>
> thank in advance.
> Meissa
>
>
>
>
> "Ted Husted" <hu...@apache.org>
> Envoyé par : ted.husted@gmail.com
> 04/10/2007 13:08
> Veuillez répondre à
> "Struts Users Mailing List" <us...@struts.apache.org>
>
>
> A
> "Struts Users Mailing List" <us...@struts.apache.org>
> cc
>
> Objet
> Re: struts 2.1 beta
>
>
>
>
>
>
> For performance problems, be sure to follow the advice on this page.
>
>  * http://struts.apache.org/2.x/docs/performance-tuning.html
>
> If you do all of these things, and still consider the performance
> unacceptable, then I doubt that Struts 2.1 will make a startling
> difference. If performance is the key concern, then Struts 1 is still
> the best choice. I also understand that Tapestry performs well.
>
> If it helps, I'll post a link to a temporary Struts 2.1 snapshot, with
> all the dependencies, on the developers list. As soon as XWork 2.1.0
> is available, we'll roll a Struts 2.1.0 distribution for testing,
> which should be "real soon now".
>
>  * http://www.nabble.com/Struts---Dev-f205.html
>
> -- HTH, Ted
> Attend "Migrating to Ajax" at ApacheCon US 2007:
>  * http://us.apachecon.com/us2007/program/talk/1883
>
>
> On 9/25/07, meissa.sakho@investorservicing.natixis.fr
> <me...@investorservicing.natixis.fr> wrote:
> >
> > That's exactly what I wanted. I new complete un-released version.
> > But at this time, I'm giving up. To tired.
> > I'll restart using struts when a version without the dreadfull
> performance
> > impact will be around.
> >
> > I hope that we'll get it before the end of the century.
> >
> > Meissa
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave Newton <ne...@yahoo.com>
> > 25/09/2007 14:56
> > Veuillez répondre à
> > "Struts Users Mailing List" <us...@struts.apache.org>
> >
> >
> > A
> > Struts Users Mailing List <us...@struts.apache.org>
> > cc
> >
> > Objet
> > Re: struts 2.1 beta
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > If you want a complete build of an un-released version
> > then AFAIK you need to build it from source. The
> > repository contains the dependent libraries.
> >
> > The nightly builds are just that, builds, not
> > distributions (again, AFAIK).
> >
> > --- meissa.sakho@investorservicing.natixis.fr wrote:
> > > I just need to grab the nightly version WITH
> > > DEPENDANTS LIBRAIRIES if it exist.
> > > the link below
> > >
> >
> http://struts.apache.org/2.x/docs/building-the-framework-from-source.html
> > > drive me to that one
> > >
> > http://people.apache.org/builds/struts/nightlies/2.x/
> > >
> > > No librairies.
> > > Meissa
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave Newton <ne...@yahoo.com>
> > > 25/09/2007 14:28
> > > Veuillez répondre à
> > > "Struts Users Mailing List" <us...@struts.apache.org>
> > >
> > >
> > > A
> > > Struts Users Mailing List <us...@struts.apache.org>
> > > cc
> > >
> > > Objet
> > > Re: struts 2.1 beta
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Oleg Mikheev <mi...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> > > > Dave Newton wrote:
> > > > >> I have just renamed it to struts2-core.jar and
> > > > >> replaced in my application that was working
> > > with
> > > > >> 2.0.9 version.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can't just randomly replace libraries.
> > > >
> > > > You can replace 2.0.8 with 2.0.9, but you can't
> > > > replace 2.0.9 with 2.1.0
> > >
> > > You certainly *could*, but it would still make me
> > > nervous w/o testing since XWork revved also... I
> > > guess
> > > I always think that dropping in a new library
> > > revision
> > > w/o keeping track of library dependencies is risky.
> > >
> > > d.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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RE: struts 2.1 beta

Posted by Jason Wyatt <jw...@itree.com.au>.
Hi Meissa, 

You might want to see the post with subject "[s2] Struts head tag KILLS (>
10s) page load time"... Discusses the problem as we experienced it, and a
hack /workaround to modify the <s:head> freemarker template... Not ideal,
but may help cut down the includes.

Regards
Jason

 

-----Original Message-----
From: meissa.sakho@investorservicing.natixis.fr
[mailto:meissa.sakho@investorservicing.natixis.fr] 
Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2007 9:27 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: struts 2.1 beta


We did all of the things described in the performance-tuning tips.
But we've been using intensively ajax tag (datetime picker and
autocompleter).
Theses two tags force us to include the killing head tag.
When we removed them (removing the head tag in the same time) our pages are
faster (a least 5 times).

I think that if the head tag will still kill performance on 2.1. It should
be told in the performance tip.

It will surely help posting a link to a temporary struts 2.1 version.

thank in advance.
Meissa




"Ted Husted" <hu...@apache.org>
Envoyé par : ted.husted@gmail.com
04/10/2007 13:08
Veuillez répondre à
"Struts Users Mailing List" <us...@struts.apache.org>


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"Struts Users Mailing List" <us...@struts.apache.org>
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Re: struts 2.1 beta






For performance problems, be sure to follow the advice on this page.

 * http://struts.apache.org/2.x/docs/performance-tuning.html

If you do all of these things, and still consider the performance
unacceptable, then I doubt that Struts 2.1 will make a startling
difference. If performance is the key concern, then Struts 1 is still
the best choice. I also understand that Tapestry performs well.

If it helps, I'll post a link to a temporary Struts 2.1 snapshot, with
all the dependencies, on the developers list. As soon as XWork 2.1.0
is available, we'll roll a Struts 2.1.0 distribution for testing,
which should be "real soon now".

 * http://www.nabble.com/Struts---Dev-f205.html

-- HTH, Ted
Attend "Migrating to Ajax" at ApacheCon US 2007:
 * http://us.apachecon.com/us2007/program/talk/1883


On 9/25/07, meissa.sakho@investorservicing.natixis.fr
<me...@investorservicing.natixis.fr> wrote:
>
> That's exactly what I wanted. I new complete un-released version.
> But at this time, I'm giving up. To tired.
> I'll restart using struts when a version without the dreadfull 
performance
> impact will be around.
>
> I hope that we'll get it before the end of the century.
>
> Meissa
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dave Newton <ne...@yahoo.com>
> 25/09/2007 14:56
> Veuillez répondre à
> "Struts Users Mailing List" <us...@struts.apache.org>
>
>
> A
> Struts Users Mailing List <us...@struts.apache.org>
> cc
>
> Objet
> Re: struts 2.1 beta
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If you want a complete build of an un-released version
> then AFAIK you need to build it from source. The
> repository contains the dependent libraries.
>
> The nightly builds are just that, builds, not
> distributions (again, AFAIK).
>
> --- meissa.sakho@investorservicing.natixis.fr wrote:
> > I just need to grab the nightly version WITH
> > DEPENDANTS LIBRAIRIES if it exist.
> > the link below
> >
> 
http://struts.apache.org/2.x/docs/building-the-framework-from-source.html
> > drive me to that one
> >
> http://people.apache.org/builds/struts/nightlies/2.x/
> >
> > No librairies.
> > Meissa
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave Newton <ne...@yahoo.com>
> > 25/09/2007 14:28
> > Veuillez répondre à
> > "Struts Users Mailing List" <us...@struts.apache.org>
> >
> >
> > A
> > Struts Users Mailing List <us...@struts.apache.org>
> > cc
> >
> > Objet
> > Re: struts 2.1 beta
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Oleg Mikheev <mi...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> > > Dave Newton wrote:
> > > >> I have just renamed it to struts2-core.jar and
> > > >> replaced in my application that was working
> > with
> > > >> 2.0.9 version.
> > > >
> > > > You can't just randomly replace libraries.
> > >
> > > You can replace 2.0.8 with 2.0.9, but you can't
> > > replace 2.0.9 with 2.1.0
> >
> > You certainly *could*, but it would still make me
> > nervous w/o testing since XWork revved also... I
> > guess
> > I always think that dropping in a new library
> > revision
> > w/o keeping track of library dependencies is risky.
> >
> > d.
> >
> >
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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non autorisee est interdite. Si vous n'etes pas destinataire de ce 
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autorisee est interdite. Si vous n'etes pas destinataire de ce message,
merci de le detruire et d'avertir l'expediteur.
Ensemble, faisons un geste pour l'environnement : n'imprimons nos mails que
si necessaire

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Re: struts 2.1 beta

Posted by me...@investorservicing.natixis.fr.
We did all of the things described in the performance-tuning tips.
But we've been using intensively ajax tag (datetime picker and 
autocompleter).
Theses two tags force us to include the killing head tag.
When we removed them (removing the head tag in the same time) our pages 
are faster (a least 5 times).

I think that if the head tag will still kill performance on 2.1. It should 
be told in the performance tip.

It will surely help posting a link to a temporary struts 2.1 version.

thank in advance.
Meissa




"Ted Husted" <hu...@apache.org> 
Envoyé par : ted.husted@gmail.com
04/10/2007 13:08
Veuillez répondre à
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Re: struts 2.1 beta






For performance problems, be sure to follow the advice on this page.

 * http://struts.apache.org/2.x/docs/performance-tuning.html

If you do all of these things, and still consider the performance
unacceptable, then I doubt that Struts 2.1 will make a startling
difference. If performance is the key concern, then Struts 1 is still
the best choice. I also understand that Tapestry performs well.

If it helps, I'll post a link to a temporary Struts 2.1 snapshot, with
all the dependencies, on the developers list. As soon as XWork 2.1.0
is available, we'll roll a Struts 2.1.0 distribution for testing,
which should be "real soon now".

 * http://www.nabble.com/Struts---Dev-f205.html

-- HTH, Ted
Attend "Migrating to Ajax" at ApacheCon US 2007:
 * http://us.apachecon.com/us2007/program/talk/1883


On 9/25/07, meissa.sakho@investorservicing.natixis.fr
<me...@investorservicing.natixis.fr> wrote:
>
> That's exactly what I wanted. I new complete un-released version.
> But at this time, I'm giving up. To tired.
> I'll restart using struts when a version without the dreadfull 
performance
> impact will be around.
>
> I hope that we'll get it before the end of the century.
>
> Meissa
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dave Newton <ne...@yahoo.com>
> 25/09/2007 14:56
> Veuillez répondre à
> "Struts Users Mailing List" <us...@struts.apache.org>
>
>
> A
> Struts Users Mailing List <us...@struts.apache.org>
> cc
>
> Objet
> Re: struts 2.1 beta
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If you want a complete build of an un-released version
> then AFAIK you need to build it from source. The
> repository contains the dependent libraries.
>
> The nightly builds are just that, builds, not
> distributions (again, AFAIK).
>
> --- meissa.sakho@investorservicing.natixis.fr wrote:
> > I just need to grab the nightly version WITH
> > DEPENDANTS LIBRAIRIES if it exist.
> > the link below
> >
> 
http://struts.apache.org/2.x/docs/building-the-framework-from-source.html
> > drive me to that one
> >
> http://people.apache.org/builds/struts/nightlies/2.x/
> >
> > No librairies.
> > Meissa
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave Newton <ne...@yahoo.com>
> > 25/09/2007 14:28
> > Veuillez répondre à
> > "Struts Users Mailing List" <us...@struts.apache.org>
> >
> >
> > A
> > Struts Users Mailing List <us...@struts.apache.org>
> > cc
> >
> > Objet
> > Re: struts 2.1 beta
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Oleg Mikheev <mi...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> > > Dave Newton wrote:
> > > >> I have just renamed it to struts2-core.jar and
> > > >> replaced in my application that was working
> > with
> > > >> 2.0.9 version.
> > > >
> > > > You can't just randomly replace libraries.
> > >
> > > You can replace 2.0.8 with 2.0.9, but you can't
> > > replace 2.0.9 with 2.1.0
> >
> > You certainly *could*, but it would still make me
> > nervous w/o testing since XWork revved also... I
> > guess
> > I always think that dropping in a new library
> > revision
> > w/o keeping track of library dependencies is risky.
> >
> > d.
> >
> >
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