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Posted to general@logging.apache.org by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> on 2013/09/21 15:04:41 UTC
10 years
Folks,
doing the research for a new article, I realized the Apache Logging
Services project has been founded in december 2003:
http://logging.apache.org/charter.html
This is going to be 10 years in a short while!!
This is absolutely awesome! Especially because we still have our Scott
and I see Jacob pinging the users list from time to time! It means, our
two fellows are sticking to the project for 10 years too and still help us!
I believe we should do something cool, and be it a blog post only.
Anybody got ideas?
Cheers
Christian
Re: 10 years
Posted by Scott Deboy <sc...@gmail.com>.
I believe log4j was initially donated to Apache by IBM and Ceki was a part
of it there.
On Sep 21, 2013 9:20 PM, "Ralph Goers" <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> Oh - did you mean it was running 4 years before the logging project was
> formed? Yes - as Scott pointed out it was first part of Jakarta, which was
> a catch all for all Java projects (except stuff like Cocoon which fell
> under the XML projects).
>
> Ralph
>
> On Sep 21, 2013, at 10:16 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>
> According to wikipedia and http://www.apache.org/history/timeline.html the
> ASF was incorporated in June 1999. Where did you get 4 years later from?
> According to http://logging.apache.org/log4j/1.2/changes-report.html the
> first release of Log4j was Oct 15, 1999.
>
> Ralph
>
> On Sep 21, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>
>
>
> Ralph Goers schrieb:
>
> That is pretty awesome. Note though, that the first release of Log4j was
> in 1999.
>
>
> Interesting. It was running 4 years before ASF.
> Where the folks from the original charter working on the pre-asf
> versions too?
>
>
> Ralph
>
>
> On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>
>
> Folks,
>
>
> doing the research for a new article, I realized the Apache Logging
>
> Services project has been founded in december 2003:
>
> http://logging.apache.org/charter.html
>
>
> This is going to be 10 years in a short while!!
>
>
> This is absolutely awesome! Especially because we still have our Scott
>
> and I see Jacob pinging the users list from time to time! It means, our
>
> two fellows are sticking to the project for 10 years too and still help us!
>
>
> I believe we should do something cool, and be it a blog post only.
>
> Anybody got ideas?
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Christian
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: 10 years
Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
Oh - did you mean it was running 4 years before the logging project was formed? Yes - as Scott pointed out it was first part of Jakarta, which was a catch all for all Java projects (except stuff like Cocoon which fell under the XML projects).
Ralph
On Sep 21, 2013, at 10:16 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
> According to wikipedia and http://www.apache.org/history/timeline.html the ASF was incorporated in June 1999. Where did you get 4 years later from? According to http://logging.apache.org/log4j/1.2/changes-report.html the first release of Log4j was Oct 15, 1999.
>
> Ralph
>
> On Sep 21, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Ralph Goers schrieb:
>>> That is pretty awesome. Note though, that the first release of Log4j was in 1999.
>>
>> Interesting. It was running 4 years before ASF.
>> Where the folks from the original charter working on the pre-asf
>> versions too?
>>
>>>
>>> Ralph
>>>
>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>> doing the research for a new article, I realized the Apache Logging
>>>> Services project has been founded in december 2003:
>>>> http://logging.apache.org/charter.html
>>>>
>>>> This is going to be 10 years in a short while!!
>>>>
>>>> This is absolutely awesome! Especially because we still have our Scott
>>>> and I see Jacob pinging the users list from time to time! It means, our
>>>> two fellows are sticking to the project for 10 years too and still help us!
>>>>
>>>> I believe we should do something cool, and be it a blog post only.
>>>> Anybody got ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Christian
>>>>
>>>
>
Re: 10 years
Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
According to wikipedia and http://www.apache.org/history/timeline.html the ASF was incorporated in June 1999. Where did you get 4 years later from? According to http://logging.apache.org/log4j/1.2/changes-report.html the first release of Log4j was Oct 15, 1999.
Ralph
On Sep 21, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>
>
> Ralph Goers schrieb:
>> That is pretty awesome. Note though, that the first release of Log4j was in 1999.
>
> Interesting. It was running 4 years before ASF.
> Where the folks from the original charter working on the pre-asf
> versions too?
>
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> doing the research for a new article, I realized the Apache Logging
>>> Services project has been founded in december 2003:
>>> http://logging.apache.org/charter.html
>>>
>>> This is going to be 10 years in a short while!!
>>>
>>> This is absolutely awesome! Especially because we still have our Scott
>>> and I see Jacob pinging the users list from time to time! It means, our
>>> two fellows are sticking to the project for 10 years too and still help us!
>>>
>>> I believe we should do something cool, and be it a blog post only.
>>> Anybody got ideas?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Christian
>>>
>>
Re: 10 years
Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On 2013-09-21, Scott Deboy wrote:
> Log4j was part of the Jakarta project prior to LS existence. I don't
> recall earlier history.
I was part of Jakarta back then - yes I am that old :-)
Even before log4j joined Jakarta it was pretty well known (under an IBM
banner IIRC, but Ceki has been the driving force of it). Joining
Jakarta was some kind of stealth operation - at least I don't recall
noticing it (I was not on the PMC back then) until it was mentioned in a
sidenote of some PMC meeting minutes.
http://web.archive.org/web/20001017131442/http://www.log4j.org/history.shtml
might be useful, the history page of log4j.org from 2000.
Stefan
Re: 10 years
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
He is listed as PMC member - maybe he has sees this thread and has some time to respond :-)
Ivan Habunek schrieb:
> You can always ask Ceki. :)
>
> Ivan
>
> On 21 September 2013 22:19, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I saw the earliest commit in 12/2000:
>> http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?from=20001101&to=20001131&path=%2Flogging%2Flog4j
>>
>> But it seems previously CVS was used. Guess there is no chance to get history from there
>>
>> Scott Deboy schrieb:
>>> Log4j was part of the Jakarta project prior to LS existence. I don't
>>> recall earlier history.
>>>
>>> On Sep 21, 2013 1:02 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" <grobmeier@gmail.com
>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ralph Goers schrieb:
>>> > That is pretty awesome. Note though, that the first release of
>>> Log4j was in 1999.
>>>
>>> Interesting. It was running 4 years before ASF.
>>> Where the folks from the original charter working on the pre-asf
>>> versions too?
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Ralph
>>> >
>>> > On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Folks,
>>> >>
>>> >> doing the research for a new article, I realized the Apache Logging
>>> >> Services project has been founded in december 2003:
>>> >> http://logging.apache.org/charter.html
>>> >>
>>> >> This is going to be 10 years in a short while!!
>>> >>
>>> >> This is absolutely awesome! Especially because we still have
>>> our Scott
>>> >> and I see Jacob pinging the users list from time to time! It
>>> means, our
>>> >> two fellows are sticking to the project for 10 years too and
>>> still help us!
>>> >>
>>> >> I believe we should do something cool, and be it a blog post only.
>>> >> Anybody got ideas?
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers
>>> >> Christian
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
Re: 10 years
Posted by Ivan Habunek <iv...@gmail.com>.
You can always ask Ceki. :)
Ivan
On 21 September 2013 22:19, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I saw the earliest commit in 12/2000:
> http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?from=20001101&to=20001131&path=%2Flogging%2Flog4j
>
> But it seems previously CVS was used. Guess there is no chance to get history from there
>
> Scott Deboy schrieb:
>> Log4j was part of the Jakarta project prior to LS existence. I don't
>> recall earlier history.
>>
>> On Sep 21, 2013 1:02 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" <grobmeier@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Ralph Goers schrieb:
>> > That is pretty awesome. Note though, that the first release of
>> Log4j was in 1999.
>>
>> Interesting. It was running 4 years before ASF.
>> Where the folks from the original charter working on the pre-asf
>> versions too?
>>
>> >
>> > Ralph
>> >
>> > On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>> >
>> >> Folks,
>> >>
>> >> doing the research for a new article, I realized the Apache Logging
>> >> Services project has been founded in december 2003:
>> >> http://logging.apache.org/charter.html
>> >>
>> >> This is going to be 10 years in a short while!!
>> >>
>> >> This is absolutely awesome! Especially because we still have
>> our Scott
>> >> and I see Jacob pinging the users list from time to time! It
>> means, our
>> >> two fellows are sticking to the project for 10 years too and
>> still help us!
>> >>
>> >> I believe we should do something cool, and be it a blog post only.
>> >> Anybody got ideas?
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >> Christian
>> >>
>> >
>>
Re: 10 years
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
I saw the earliest commit in 12/2000:
http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?from=20001101&to=20001131&path=%2Flogging%2Flog4j
But it seems previously CVS was used. Guess there is no chance to get history from there
Scott Deboy schrieb:
> Log4j was part of the Jakarta project prior to LS existence. I don't
> recall earlier history.
>
> On Sep 21, 2013 1:02 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" <grobmeier@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
> Ralph Goers schrieb:
> > That is pretty awesome. Note though, that the first release of
> Log4j was in 1999.
>
> Interesting. It was running 4 years before ASF.
> Where the folks from the original charter working on the pre-asf
> versions too?
>
> >
> > Ralph
> >
> > On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> >
> >> Folks,
> >>
> >> doing the research for a new article, I realized the Apache Logging
> >> Services project has been founded in december 2003:
> >> http://logging.apache.org/charter.html
> >>
> >> This is going to be 10 years in a short while!!
> >>
> >> This is absolutely awesome! Especially because we still have
> our Scott
> >> and I see Jacob pinging the users list from time to time! It
> means, our
> >> two fellows are sticking to the project for 10 years too and
> still help us!
> >>
> >> I believe we should do something cool, and be it a blog post only.
> >> Anybody got ideas?
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Christian
> >>
> >
>
Re: 10 years
Posted by Scott Deboy <sc...@gmail.com>.
Log4j was part of the Jakarta project prior to LS existence. I don't
recall earlier history.
On Sep 21, 2013 1:02 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Ralph Goers schrieb:
> > That is pretty awesome. Note though, that the first release of Log4j was
> in 1999.
>
> Interesting. It was running 4 years before ASF.
> Where the folks from the original charter working on the pre-asf
> versions too?
>
> >
> > Ralph
> >
> > On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> >
> >> Folks,
> >>
> >> doing the research for a new article, I realized the Apache Logging
> >> Services project has been founded in december 2003:
> >> http://logging.apache.org/charter.html
> >>
> >> This is going to be 10 years in a short while!!
> >>
> >> This is absolutely awesome! Especially because we still have our Scott
> >> and I see Jacob pinging the users list from time to time! It means, our
> >> two fellows are sticking to the project for 10 years too and still help
> us!
> >>
> >> I believe we should do something cool, and be it a blog post only.
> >> Anybody got ideas?
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Christian
> >>
> >
>
Re: 10 years
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
Ralph Goers schrieb:
> That is pretty awesome. Note though, that the first release of Log4j was in 1999.
Interesting. It was running 4 years before ASF.
Where the folks from the original charter working on the pre-asf
versions too?
>
> Ralph
>
> On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> doing the research for a new article, I realized the Apache Logging
>> Services project has been founded in december 2003:
>> http://logging.apache.org/charter.html
>>
>> This is going to be 10 years in a short while!!
>>
>> This is absolutely awesome! Especially because we still have our Scott
>> and I see Jacob pinging the users list from time to time! It means, our
>> two fellows are sticking to the project for 10 years too and still help us!
>>
>> I believe we should do something cool, and be it a blog post only.
>> Anybody got ideas?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Christian
>>
>
Re: 10 years
Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
That is pretty awesome. Note though, that the first release of Log4j was in 1999.
Ralph
On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> Folks,
>
> doing the research for a new article, I realized the Apache Logging
> Services project has been founded in december 2003:
> http://logging.apache.org/charter.html
>
> This is going to be 10 years in a short while!!
>
> This is absolutely awesome! Especially because we still have our Scott
> and I see Jacob pinging the users list from time to time! It means, our
> two fellows are sticking to the project for 10 years too and still help us!
>
> I believe we should do something cool, and be it a blog post only.
> Anybody got ideas?
>
> Cheers
> Christian
>