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Posted to dev@httpd.apache.org by Ryan Bloom <rb...@covalent.net> on 2001/09/06 17:09:16 UTC
Re: cvs commit: apache-1.3/src/os/netware mod_tls.c
On Thursday 06 September 2001 07:48, bnicholes@apache.org wrote:
> bnicholes 01/09/06 07:48:46
>
> Modified: src/os/netware mod_tls.c
> Log:
> Added the ability for MOD_TLS to take advantage of the mutual
> authentication functionality built into Winsock and NILE on NetWare
Mod_tls isn't ever really used, because mod_ssl has the exact same filters.
Is there a chance you can port this to mod_ssl? I will be removing mod_tls
later this week.
Sorry about this.
Ryan
______________________________________________________________
Ryan Bloom rbb@apache.org
Covalent Technologies rbb@covalent.net
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Re: cvs commit: apache-1.3/src/os/netware mod_tls.c
Posted by Jeff Trawick <tr...@attglobal.net>.
"William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net> writes:
> And Brian, please move your mod_tls into modules/arch/netware/ and consider renaming
> it (work winsock or ws into the name) for clarity, since tls is a very broad thing
> that doesn't reflect how specific this module is.
>
> Does that work for everyone, for today?
that makes lots of sense to me (butting in from left field)
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Re: cvs commit: apache-1.3/src/os/netware mod_tls.c
Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
From: "Ryan Bloom" <rb...@covalent.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:45 PM
> To clarify, I am removing mod_tls from 2.0. I saw mod_tls, and didn't connect it
> with Apache 1.3. I will not remove mod_tls from 1.3 this week.
+1 for removing /modules/tls (I was confused as well, sorry.)
And Brian, please move your mod_tls into modules/arch/netware/ and consider renaming
it (work winsock or ws into the name) for clarity, since tls is a very broad thing
that doesn't reflect how specific this module is.
Does that work for everyone, for today?
Bill
Re: cvs commit: apache-1.3/src/os/netware mod_tls.c
Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
From: "Ryan Bloom" <rb...@covalent.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:45 PM
> To clarify, I am removing mod_tls from 2.0. I saw mod_tls, and didn't connect it
> with Apache 1.3. I will not remove mod_tls from 1.3 this week.
+1 for removing /modules/tls (I was confused as well, sorry.)
And Brian, please move your mod_tls into modules/arch/netware/ and consider renaming
it (work winsock or ws into the name) for clarity, since tls is a very broad thing
that doesn't reflect how specific this module is.
Does that work for everyone, for today?
Bill
Re: cvs commit: apache-1.3/src/os/netware mod_tls.c
Posted by Ryan Bloom <rb...@covalent.net>.
On Thursday 06 September 2001 14:17, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> From: "Ryan Bloom" <rb...@covalent.net>
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 8:09 AM
>
> > On Thursday 06 September 2001 07:48, bnicholes@apache.org wrote:
> > > bnicholes 01/09/06 07:48:46
> > >
> > > Modified: src/os/netware mod_tls.c
> > > Log:
> > > Added the ability for MOD_TLS to take advantage of the mutual
> > > authentication functionality built into Winsock and NILE on NetWare
> >
> > Mod_tls isn't ever really used, because mod_ssl has the exact same
> > filters. Is there a chance you can port this to mod_ssl? I will be
> > removing mod_tls later this week.
>
> If this module will come forward from 1.3 (where it was supported) it would
> have to land in modules/arch/netware/ --- second, this is kernel level
> support of SSL which is entirely different (IMHO) than mod_ssl.
>
> To be fair, mod_tls (winsock) has been around longer. However, mod_tls is
> a little too vague to be used this way. So, Brad, would you be willing to
> remove this module from the core, given that everyone shares mod_ssl, and
> that mod_ssl offers a more comprehensive and supported ssl/tls
> architecture? If not willing, please describe for the list what it is and
> why it aught to remain, and if you are willing to rename it to
> mod_winsock_tls to avoid ambiguity?
>
> Now if Brian wants to keep/Ryan wants to remove, then fine, we need a vote.
> But this module has been around for a number of 1.3 subrevisions, and
> cannot be axed by one individual's opinions. It isn't easy to be accepted
> as a new module. It must be equally difficult to be pulled from the core.
To clarify, I am removing mod_tls from 2.0. I saw mod_tls, and didn't connect it
with Apache 1.3. I will not remove mod_tls from 1.3 this week.
Ryan
______________________________________________________________
Ryan Bloom rbb@apache.org
Covalent Technologies rbb@covalent.net
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Re: cvs commit: apache-1.3/src/os/netware mod_tls.c
Posted by Ryan Bloom <rb...@covalent.net>.
On Thursday 06 September 2001 14:17, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> From: "Ryan Bloom" <rb...@covalent.net>
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 8:09 AM
>
> > On Thursday 06 September 2001 07:48, bnicholes@apache.org wrote:
> > > bnicholes 01/09/06 07:48:46
> > >
> > > Modified: src/os/netware mod_tls.c
> > > Log:
> > > Added the ability for MOD_TLS to take advantage of the mutual
> > > authentication functionality built into Winsock and NILE on NetWare
> >
> > Mod_tls isn't ever really used, because mod_ssl has the exact same
> > filters. Is there a chance you can port this to mod_ssl? I will be
> > removing mod_tls later this week.
>
> If this module will come forward from 1.3 (where it was supported) it would
> have to land in modules/arch/netware/ --- second, this is kernel level
> support of SSL which is entirely different (IMHO) than mod_ssl.
>
> To be fair, mod_tls (winsock) has been around longer. However, mod_tls is
> a little too vague to be used this way. So, Brad, would you be willing to
> remove this module from the core, given that everyone shares mod_ssl, and
> that mod_ssl offers a more comprehensive and supported ssl/tls
> architecture? If not willing, please describe for the list what it is and
> why it aught to remain, and if you are willing to rename it to
> mod_winsock_tls to avoid ambiguity?
>
> Now if Brian wants to keep/Ryan wants to remove, then fine, we need a vote.
> But this module has been around for a number of 1.3 subrevisions, and
> cannot be axed by one individual's opinions. It isn't easy to be accepted
> as a new module. It must be equally difficult to be pulled from the core.
To clarify, I am removing mod_tls from 2.0. I saw mod_tls, and didn't connect it
with Apache 1.3. I will not remove mod_tls from 1.3 this week.
Ryan
______________________________________________________________
Ryan Bloom rbb@apache.org
Covalent Technologies rbb@covalent.net
--------------------------------------------------------------
Re: cvs commit: apache-1.3/src/os/netware mod_tls.c
Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
From: "Ryan Bloom" <rb...@covalent.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 8:09 AM
> On Thursday 06 September 2001 07:48, bnicholes@apache.org wrote:
> > bnicholes 01/09/06 07:48:46
> >
> > Modified: src/os/netware mod_tls.c
> > Log:
> > Added the ability for MOD_TLS to take advantage of the mutual
> > authentication functionality built into Winsock and NILE on NetWare
>
> Mod_tls isn't ever really used, because mod_ssl has the exact same filters.
> Is there a chance you can port this to mod_ssl? I will be removing mod_tls
> later this week.
If this module will come forward from 1.3 (where it was supported) it would have
to land in modules/arch/netware/ --- second, this is kernel level support of SSL
which is entirely different (IMHO) than mod_ssl.
To be fair, mod_tls (winsock) has been around longer. However, mod_tls is a little
too vague to be used this way. So, Brad, would you be willing to remove this module
from the core, given that everyone shares mod_ssl, and that mod_ssl offers a more
comprehensive and supported ssl/tls architecture? If not willing, please describe
for the list what it is and why it aught to remain, and if you are willing to rename
it to mod_winsock_tls to avoid ambiguity?
Now if Brian wants to keep/Ryan wants to remove, then fine, we need a vote. But this
module has been around for a number of 1.3 subrevisions, and cannot be axed by one
individual's opinions. It isn't easy to be accepted as a new module. It must be
equally difficult to be pulled from the core.
Bill
Re: cvs commit: apache-1.3/src/os/netware mod_tls.c
Posted by Ryan Bloom <rb...@covalent.net>.
On Thursday 06 September 2001 08:09, Ryan Bloom wrote:
> On Thursday 06 September 2001 07:48, bnicholes@apache.org wrote:
> > bnicholes 01/09/06 07:48:46
> >
> > Modified: src/os/netware mod_tls.c
> > Log:
> > Added the ability for MOD_TLS to take advantage of the mutual
> > authentication functionality built into Winsock and NILE on NetWare
>
> Mod_tls isn't ever really used, because mod_ssl has the exact same filters.
> Is there a chance you can port this to mod_ssl? I will be removing mod_tls
> later this week.
>
> Sorry about this.
I'm sorry, I noticed this was for 1.3 after I wrote my response. Why is there
a mod_tls in Apache 1.3??????
Ryan
______________________________________________________________
Ryan Bloom rbb@apache.org
Covalent Technologies rbb@covalent.net
--------------------------------------------------------------
Re: cvs commit: apache-1.3/src/os/netware mod_tls.c
Posted by Ryan Bloom <rb...@covalent.net>.
On Thursday 06 September 2001 08:09, Ryan Bloom wrote:
> On Thursday 06 September 2001 07:48, bnicholes@apache.org wrote:
> > bnicholes 01/09/06 07:48:46
> >
> > Modified: src/os/netware mod_tls.c
> > Log:
> > Added the ability for MOD_TLS to take advantage of the mutual
> > authentication functionality built into Winsock and NILE on NetWare
>
> Mod_tls isn't ever really used, because mod_ssl has the exact same filters.
> Is there a chance you can port this to mod_ssl? I will be removing mod_tls
> later this week.
>
> Sorry about this.
I'm sorry, I noticed this was for 1.3 after I wrote my response. Why is there
a mod_tls in Apache 1.3??????
Ryan
______________________________________________________________
Ryan Bloom rbb@apache.org
Covalent Technologies rbb@covalent.net
--------------------------------------------------------------
Re: cvs commit: apache-1.3/src/os/netware mod_tls.c
Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
From: "Ryan Bloom" <rb...@covalent.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 8:09 AM
> On Thursday 06 September 2001 07:48, bnicholes@apache.org wrote:
> > bnicholes 01/09/06 07:48:46
> >
> > Modified: src/os/netware mod_tls.c
> > Log:
> > Added the ability for MOD_TLS to take advantage of the mutual
> > authentication functionality built into Winsock and NILE on NetWare
>
> Mod_tls isn't ever really used, because mod_ssl has the exact same filters.
> Is there a chance you can port this to mod_ssl? I will be removing mod_tls
> later this week.
If this module will come forward from 1.3 (where it was supported) it would have
to land in modules/arch/netware/ --- second, this is kernel level support of SSL
which is entirely different (IMHO) than mod_ssl.
To be fair, mod_tls (winsock) has been around longer. However, mod_tls is a little
too vague to be used this way. So, Brad, would you be willing to remove this module
from the core, given that everyone shares mod_ssl, and that mod_ssl offers a more
comprehensive and supported ssl/tls architecture? If not willing, please describe
for the list what it is and why it aught to remain, and if you are willing to rename
it to mod_winsock_tls to avoid ambiguity?
Now if Brian wants to keep/Ryan wants to remove, then fine, we need a vote. But this
module has been around for a number of 1.3 subrevisions, and cannot be axed by one
individual's opinions. It isn't easy to be accepted as a new module. It must be
equally difficult to be pulled from the core.
Bill
Re: cvs commit: apache-1.3/src/os/netware mod_tls.c
Posted by Cliff Woolley <cl...@yahoo.com>.
On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Ryan Bloom wrote:
> On Thursday 06 September 2001 07:48, bnicholes@apache.org wrote:
> > bnicholes 01/09/06 07:48:46
> >
> > Modified: src/os/netware mod_tls.c
> > Log:
> > Added the ability for MOD_TLS to take advantage of the mutual
> > authentication functionality built into Winsock and NILE on NetWare
>
> Mod_tls isn't ever really used, because mod_ssl has the exact same filters.
> Is there a chance you can port this to mod_ssl? I will be removing mod_tls
> later this week.
>
> Sorry about this.
This is _1.3_ mod_tls, which only exists in Netware. I've never figured
out why it was in there. I never much liked the idea, but whatever.
--Cliff
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Cliff Woolley
cliffwoolley@yahoo.com
Charlottesville, VA