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Looking to pair

Hi guys. Hope that this is appropriate for this list: I am looking for
someone who is willing to pair program with me (although it would probably
be mostly me on the watching side). I need to get strong with Wicket,
Spring, and maybe even Neo4J as quickly as possible, as I have committed to
using these technologies on a big new project. And I know from experience
that pair programming with someone who is very proficient in those
technologies is the quickest way to get there.

I posted a job listing on Elance for a similar arrangement, but if any of
you Wicket masters would let me look over your virtual shoulder for a few
hours sometime, it would be much appreciated.

FYI, I have been programming for 20+ years (VB, Delphi, Java, Ruby, etc.)
so it is not like I am a total newbie.

Thanks in advance.

Mike Pence

Re: Looking to pair

Posted by Martin Makundi <ma...@koodaripalvelut.com>.
Hands-on head-first head-banging is the way to go. Watching aside won't
take you fare and won't float long. Unless you just want to manage ;)

**
Martin

2013/7/7 Mike Pence <mi...@gmail.com>

> Remote pairing works, too, with some effort.
>
> I am working my way through Wicket in Action, and I am definitely very
> excited, at this point. But I know that watching a real Wicket expert in
> action would be extremely informative.
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Paul Borș <pa...@bors.ws> wrote:
>
> > Have you glimpsed over the few books offered under the Books section on
> > Wicket's home page?
> >
> > In my experience pair programming works for two developers within the
> same
> > physical location when one can explain the other quickly why it's best to
> > archive something one way rather than the other.
> >
> > Have a great day,
> >     Paul Bors
> >
> > On Jul 7, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Mike Pence <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi guys. Hope that this is appropriate for this list: I am looking for
> > > someone who is willing to pair program with me (although it would
> > probably
> > > be mostly me on the watching side). I need to get strong with Wicket,
> > > Spring, and maybe even Neo4J as quickly as possible, as I have
> committed
> > to
> > > using these technologies on a big new project. And I know from
> experience
> > > that pair programming with someone who is very proficient in those
> > > technologies is the quickest way to get there.
> > >
> > > I posted a job listing on Elance for a similar arrangement, but if any
> of
> > > you Wicket masters would let me look over your virtual shoulder for a
> few
> > > hours sometime, it would be much appreciated.
> > >
> > > FYI, I have been programming for 20+ years (VB, Delphi, Java, Ruby,
> etc.)
> > > so it is not like I am a total newbie.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Mike Pence
> >
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Re: Looking to pair

Posted by Mike Pence <mi...@gmail.com>.
Remote pairing works, too, with some effort.

I am working my way through Wicket in Action, and I am definitely very
excited, at this point. But I know that watching a real Wicket expert in
action would be extremely informative.


On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Paul Borș <pa...@bors.ws> wrote:

> Have you glimpsed over the few books offered under the Books section on
> Wicket's home page?
>
> In my experience pair programming works for two developers within the same
> physical location when one can explain the other quickly why it's best to
> archive something one way rather than the other.
>
> Have a great day,
>     Paul Bors
>
> On Jul 7, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Mike Pence <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi guys. Hope that this is appropriate for this list: I am looking for
> > someone who is willing to pair program with me (although it would
> probably
> > be mostly me on the watching side). I need to get strong with Wicket,
> > Spring, and maybe even Neo4J as quickly as possible, as I have committed
> to
> > using these technologies on a big new project. And I know from experience
> > that pair programming with someone who is very proficient in those
> > technologies is the quickest way to get there.
> >
> > I posted a job listing on Elance for a similar arrangement, but if any of
> > you Wicket masters would let me look over your virtual shoulder for a few
> > hours sometime, it would be much appreciated.
> >
> > FYI, I have been programming for 20+ years (VB, Delphi, Java, Ruby, etc.)
> > so it is not like I am a total newbie.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Mike Pence
>
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>

Re: Looking to pair

Posted by Paul Borș <pa...@bors.ws>.
Have you glimpsed over the few books offered under the Books section on Wicket's home page?

In my experience pair programming works for two developers within the same physical location when one can explain the other quickly why it's best to archive something one way rather than the other.

Have a great day,
    Paul Bors

On Jul 7, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Mike Pence <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi guys. Hope that this is appropriate for this list: I am looking for
> someone who is willing to pair program with me (although it would probably
> be mostly me on the watching side). I need to get strong with Wicket,
> Spring, and maybe even Neo4J as quickly as possible, as I have committed to
> using these technologies on a big new project. And I know from experience
> that pair programming with someone who is very proficient in those
> technologies is the quickest way to get there.
> 
> I posted a job listing on Elance for a similar arrangement, but if any of
> you Wicket masters would let me look over your virtual shoulder for a few
> hours sometime, it would be much appreciated.
> 
> FYI, I have been programming for 20+ years (VB, Delphi, Java, Ruby, etc.)
> so it is not like I am a total newbie.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Mike Pence

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Re: Looking to pair

Posted by Paul Borș <pa...@bors.ws>.
As Martin M. said "Hands-on head-first head-banging is the way to go. Watching aside won't
take you fare and won't float long."

If you're a manager, why even bother? You should be confident in your staff and they should follow your methodologies. I know as a team lead that the involvement between management and development can be crucial, but still... You ought to know better !!! 

Have a great day,
    Paul Bors

On Jul 8, 2013, at 1:03 AM, Martin Grigorov <mg...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> You can "watch" some Wicket project in GitHub.
> For example:
> https://github.com/l0rdn1kk0n/wicket-bootstrap
> https://github.com/sebfz1/wicket-jquery-ui
> https://github.com/wicketstuff/core
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Mike Pence <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys. Hope that this is appropriate for this list: I am looking for
>> someone who is willing to pair program with me (although it would probably
>> be mostly me on the watching side). I need to get strong with Wicket,
>> Spring, and maybe even Neo4J as quickly as possible, as I have committed to
>> using these technologies on a big new project. And I know from experience
>> that pair programming with someone who is very proficient in those
>> technologies is the quickest way to get there.
>> 
>> I posted a job listing on Elance for a similar arrangement, but if any of
>> you Wicket masters would let me look over your virtual shoulder for a few
>> hours sometime, it would be much appreciated.
>> 
>> FYI, I have been programming for 20+ years (VB, Delphi, Java, Ruby, etc.)
>> so it is not like I am a total newbie.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Mike Pence
>> 

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Re: Looking to pair

Posted by Mike Pence <mi...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for the feedback! Are there some projects on github that would be
good to watch?


On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Sebastien <se...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ohh well, seems I didn't catch correctly... (sorry for the interference)
>
> Sebastien.
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Martin Grigorov <mgrigorov@apache.org
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi Sebastien,
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Sebastien <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Martin, I have a doubt on the thread you answered... :)
> > >
> >
> > No. It is the correct thread.
> > I suggest Mike Pence to watch some open source project, i.e. being
> notified
> > when the project receives some commits.
> > He actually asks exactly for this.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Martin Grigorov <mgrigorov@apache.org
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > You can "watch" some Wicket project in GitHub.
> > > > For example:
> > > > https://github.com/l0rdn1kk0n/wicket-bootstrap
> > > > https://github.com/sebfz1/wicket-jquery-ui
> > > > https://github.com/wicketstuff/core
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Mike Pence <mi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi guys. Hope that this is appropriate for this list: I am looking
> > for
> > > > > someone who is willing to pair program with me (although it would
> > > > probably
> > > > > be mostly me on the watching side). I need to get strong with
> Wicket,
> > > > > Spring, and maybe even Neo4J as quickly as possible, as I have
> > > committed
> > > > to
> > > > > using these technologies on a big new project. And I know from
> > > experience
> > > > > that pair programming with someone who is very proficient in those
> > > > > technologies is the quickest way to get there.
> > > > >
> > > > > I posted a job listing on Elance for a similar arrangement, but if
> > any
> > > of
> > > > > you Wicket masters would let me look over your virtual shoulder
> for a
> > > few
> > > > > hours sometime, it would be much appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > FYI, I have been programming for 20+ years (VB, Delphi, Java, Ruby,
> > > etc.)
> > > > > so it is not like I am a total newbie.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Pence
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Looking to pair

Posted by Sebastien <se...@gmail.com>.
Ohh well, seems I didn't catch correctly... (sorry for the interference)

Sebastien.

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Martin Grigorov <mg...@apache.org>wrote:

> Hi Sebastien,
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Sebastien <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Martin, I have a doubt on the thread you answered... :)
> >
>
> No. It is the correct thread.
> I suggest Mike Pence to watch some open source project, i.e. being notified
> when the project receives some commits.
> He actually asks exactly for this.
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Martin Grigorov <mgrigorov@apache.org
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > You can "watch" some Wicket project in GitHub.
> > > For example:
> > > https://github.com/l0rdn1kk0n/wicket-bootstrap
> > > https://github.com/sebfz1/wicket-jquery-ui
> > > https://github.com/wicketstuff/core
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Mike Pence <mi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi guys. Hope that this is appropriate for this list: I am looking
> for
> > > > someone who is willing to pair program with me (although it would
> > > probably
> > > > be mostly me on the watching side). I need to get strong with Wicket,
> > > > Spring, and maybe even Neo4J as quickly as possible, as I have
> > committed
> > > to
> > > > using these technologies on a big new project. And I know from
> > experience
> > > > that pair programming with someone who is very proficient in those
> > > > technologies is the quickest way to get there.
> > > >
> > > > I posted a job listing on Elance for a similar arrangement, but if
> any
> > of
> > > > you Wicket masters would let me look over your virtual shoulder for a
> > few
> > > > hours sometime, it would be much appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > FYI, I have been programming for 20+ years (VB, Delphi, Java, Ruby,
> > etc.)
> > > > so it is not like I am a total newbie.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > > Mike Pence
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Looking to pair

Posted by Martin Grigorov <mg...@apache.org>.
Hi Sebastien,


On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Sebastien <se...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Martin, I have a doubt on the thread you answered... :)
>

No. It is the correct thread.
I suggest Mike Pence to watch some open source project, i.e. being notified
when the project receives some commits.
He actually asks exactly for this.


>
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Martin Grigorov <mgrigorov@apache.org
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > You can "watch" some Wicket project in GitHub.
> > For example:
> > https://github.com/l0rdn1kk0n/wicket-bootstrap
> > https://github.com/sebfz1/wicket-jquery-ui
> > https://github.com/wicketstuff/core
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Mike Pence <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi guys. Hope that this is appropriate for this list: I am looking for
> > > someone who is willing to pair program with me (although it would
> > probably
> > > be mostly me on the watching side). I need to get strong with Wicket,
> > > Spring, and maybe even Neo4J as quickly as possible, as I have
> committed
> > to
> > > using these technologies on a big new project. And I know from
> experience
> > > that pair programming with someone who is very proficient in those
> > > technologies is the quickest way to get there.
> > >
> > > I posted a job listing on Elance for a similar arrangement, but if any
> of
> > > you Wicket masters would let me look over your virtual shoulder for a
> few
> > > hours sometime, it would be much appreciated.
> > >
> > > FYI, I have been programming for 20+ years (VB, Delphi, Java, Ruby,
> etc.)
> > > so it is not like I am a total newbie.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Mike Pence
> > >
> >
>

Re: Looking to pair

Posted by Sebastien <se...@gmail.com>.
Hi Martin, I have a doubt on the thread you answered... :)


On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Martin Grigorov <mg...@apache.org>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> You can "watch" some Wicket project in GitHub.
> For example:
> https://github.com/l0rdn1kk0n/wicket-bootstrap
> https://github.com/sebfz1/wicket-jquery-ui
> https://github.com/wicketstuff/core
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Mike Pence <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi guys. Hope that this is appropriate for this list: I am looking for
> > someone who is willing to pair program with me (although it would
> probably
> > be mostly me on the watching side). I need to get strong with Wicket,
> > Spring, and maybe even Neo4J as quickly as possible, as I have committed
> to
> > using these technologies on a big new project. And I know from experience
> > that pair programming with someone who is very proficient in those
> > technologies is the quickest way to get there.
> >
> > I posted a job listing on Elance for a similar arrangement, but if any of
> > you Wicket masters would let me look over your virtual shoulder for a few
> > hours sometime, it would be much appreciated.
> >
> > FYI, I have been programming for 20+ years (VB, Delphi, Java, Ruby, etc.)
> > so it is not like I am a total newbie.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Mike Pence
> >
>

Re: Looking to pair

Posted by Martin Grigorov <mg...@apache.org>.
Hi,

You can "watch" some Wicket project in GitHub.
For example:
https://github.com/l0rdn1kk0n/wicket-bootstrap
https://github.com/sebfz1/wicket-jquery-ui
https://github.com/wicketstuff/core


On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Mike Pence <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi guys. Hope that this is appropriate for this list: I am looking for
> someone who is willing to pair program with me (although it would probably
> be mostly me on the watching side). I need to get strong with Wicket,
> Spring, and maybe even Neo4J as quickly as possible, as I have committed to
> using these technologies on a big new project. And I know from experience
> that pair programming with someone who is very proficient in those
> technologies is the quickest way to get there.
>
> I posted a job listing on Elance for a similar arrangement, but if any of
> you Wicket masters would let me look over your virtual shoulder for a few
> hours sometime, it would be much appreciated.
>
> FYI, I have been programming for 20+ years (VB, Delphi, Java, Ruby, etc.)
> so it is not like I am a total newbie.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Mike Pence
>