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Posted to community@apache.org by Ben Hyde <bh...@pobox.com> on 2003/01/31 23:31:06 UTC
How get on the map!
The map is looking better.
http://www.cozy.org/ben/map.jpg
21 locations known plus 4 more in urls.jpg who are keeping their
location a secret. I guessed where they are and put them Antarctica.
Here's how to join the fun:
1. Check out the committer's repository:
cvs -d cvs.apache.org:/home/cvs co committers
2. Read the FAQ:
committers/krell/FAQ
- ben
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Re: How get on the map!
Posted by Santiago Gala <sg...@hisitech.com>.
Ben Hyde wrote:
> The map is looking better.
>
> http://www.cozy.org/ben/map.jpg
>
> 21 locations known plus 4 more in urls.jpg who are keeping their
> location a secret. I guessed where they are and put them Antarctica.
>
> Here's how to join the fun:
>
> 1. Check out the committer's repository:
>
> cvs -d cvs.apache.org:/home/cvs co committers
>
> 2. Read the FAQ:
>
> committers/krell/FAQ
>
> - ben
>
I'm thinking that the best way to show the names, would be to write a
index.html file with a ismap and ALT="name" for the regions, so that
they appear as tooltips when you mouse over. With the "-markerbounds
file" option of xplanet it looks feasible.
I have been experimenting with different fonts to try to get legible
names in the map, but it does not work, at least for my tired eyes.
Maybe tomorrow.
Regards,
Santiago
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Re: How get on the map!
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@indexgeo.com.au>.
Wow, great work Ben and Santiago. I added to the FAQ to explain
geographic co-ordinates. Some people have their latitude and
longitude reversed. The obvious ones are: bdelacretaz, gstein,
jwoolley
--David
Ben Hyde wrote:
> I've moved the map here:
>
> http://cvs.apache.org/~bhyde/map.jpg
>
> Too many enhancements in one day...
>
> - ben
>
>
> Ben Hyde wrote:
>
> > The map is looking better.
> >
> > 21 locations known plus 4 more in urls.jpg who are keeping their
> > location a secret. I guessed where they are and put them Antarctica.
> >
> > Here's how to join the fun:
> >
> > 1. Check out the committer's repository:
> >
> > cvs -d cvs.apache.org:/home/cvs co committers
> >
> > 2. Read the FAQ:
> >
> > committers/krell/FAQ
> >
> > - ben
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Re: How get on the map!
Posted by Santiago Gala <sg...@hisitech.com>.
Ben Hyde wrote:
>
> Santiago Gala wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking that the best way to show the names, ...
>
>
> Apparently the radius label doesn't work in marker files for my version
> of xplanet. I'm sure I saw examples of labels floating in space over
> the markers on the globe.
>
I think a html USEMAP , with the URLs as targets and a TITLE="unsername"
should work nicely. I'm refreshing my perl to get this generated. (Andy
would have used ACME::Inline::PERL, instead.)
> Meanwhile I'm musing about some kind of policy statements that would
> allow people to clarify their permissiong of such privacy invading
> activities...
>
That would be neat. For the map to be a where we are?, the URL should be
a reasonable home page, and a FullName field (like in /etc/passwd) could
be added to be used as TITLE (althoug user@apache.org is already public
info). Alternatively, a second URL with the "true" home page would be
needed.
A shell field could be added (if /bin/false, no name, no link ;-) ).
While I agree that a "statement of use" should be done, I think most
people publishing their coordinates in a html file won't object to
having the name and a link in the map. Let's see.
I'll keep trying to "perl" the map. (So long since I last used perl for
something more serious than fixing a small bug!).
> Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
>
>>
>> Ben - could you also put the harversted lat/lon list there ?
>
>
> Prefered:
> cvs co committers
> cd committers/krell
> make tmp/geomarkers
>
> Currently:
> http://cvs.apache.org/markers.txt
>
> For that you only need unix and perl.
>
>> I'd like to
>> slap a WMS (Open GIS Web Mapping Server) interface over it - so one can
>> doe things like zoom in; or change the background, add roads, etc.
>
>
> Oh that would be neat!
>
> David Crossley wrote:
>
>> Wow, great work Ben and Santiago. I added to the FAQ to explain
>> geographic co-ordinates. Some people have their latitude and
>> longitude reversed.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>> The obvious ones are: bdelacretaz, gstein,
>> jwoolley
>
>
> Actually they haven't exposed their location, so I dumped then in
> Antarctica.
>
>
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Re: How get on the map!
Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
Santiago Gala wrote:
> I would like feedback about committing some of these changes or sending
> patches for further processing.
You might check http://www.skep.tk/newsquakes/ for some other 'hovering
labels on an imagemap' example.
</Steven>
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Re: How get on the map!
Posted by David Reid <dr...@jetnet.co.uk>.
Wow, Greg Stein is at the south pole! Is it cold?
david
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Subject: Re: How get on the map!
> Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote:
> >
> >
> >>We should probably need a tool to merge several images into one, I
imagine.
> >
> >
> > Or just clever HTML/css ?
> >
>
> I'm not at all an expert in writing CSS stuff, but it sure is a good idea.
>
> > ..
> >
> >>I'll clean a little bit, and commit (if it is clean enough) or send a
> >>patch with the "generate_map.pl" which generates the html file to the
> >>list, and the required changes to the Makefile.
> >
> >
> > Looking forward to that.
> >
>
> Done. I have committed everything. Makefile has small changes and new
> targets: map.html nightmap.jpg nightmap.html
>
> A current result is at:
>
> http://cvs.apache.org/~sgala/map.html
> http://cvs.apache.org/~sgala/nightmap.html
>
> I hope the changes do not spoil Ben's plan.
>
> >
> >>Anbody should feel free to show a more integrated demo playing with the
> >>Makefile or scripts, I don't think that Ben cares, unless we spoil the
> >>repository ;-) , for alternative/complementary code or ideas. This is
> >>what I have been doing, just jumping on his offering a little farther
> >>than just giving my coordinates :-)
> >
> >
> > :-) and it sure looks good !
> >
>
> The earth is beautiful, in fact I always get fascinated by the image in
> xplanet. I have used this under kde as a screensaver, refreshing every
hour.
>
> Regards,
> Santiago
>
> > Dw
> >
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Re: How get on the map!
Posted by Ben Laurie <be...@algroup.co.uk>.
Ben Hyde wrote:
> Dirk-Willem, Santiago - too cool!
>
> Thanks to all for fixing my typos and adding more doco!
>
> I can't make maps at until I convince one of the machines in my house to
> build a version of xworld with tiff and gif||png support.
>
> 39 people in committers/urls.txt, but that's a small subset
> the 600+ in /etc/passwd.
>
> From an architectural point some things I'm thinking about.
>
> 1. The data gathering should be separate from the report/map generation.
>
> 2. Privacy policy statements are badly needed, particularly when you
> want to display more interesting data, like time of last commit.
> This is, darn it, an interesting design problem.
Sounds like a playground for something Libertyesque!
Cheers,
Ben.
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Re: How get on the map!
Posted by Dirk-Willem van Gulik <di...@webweaving.org>.
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote:
> http://apollo.spaceports.com/~jhasting/images/earthmaps/earthmap2k.jpg
> http://apollo.spaceports.com/~jhasting
These links are dead now.
> http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/viewrecord?5826
I've asked for this one - should be no problem.
> While the source of earth does not seem to exist today, in
> http://gw.marketingden.com/planets/planets.html
> seems to be the original source of the map.
Added this to the WMS server; should be visible tomorrow after
the update :-)
> One thing I like about using jabber presence is that you can switch
> status, or even turn it off, at will. Furthermore, the jabber protocol
> is free, extensible, XML chunk based and designed without a central
> server architecture.
Amen to all that !
Thanks for the links - persuing !
Dw
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Re: How get on the map!
Posted by Santiago Gala <sg...@hisitech.com>.
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, Ben Hyde wrote:
>
>
>>I can't make maps at until I convince one of the machines in my house
>>to build a version of xworld with tiff and gif||png support.
>
>
> Well - if either Santiago or you send me a hi-rez version of that
> background map - then I can automate the layering with ease; allowing for
> zoom in/panning until that background map runs out of pixels.
>
>
From the README of my xplanet distribution:
The file earth.jpg is a slightly degraded (saved at 95% quality) version of
http://apollo.spaceports.com/~jhasting/images/earthmaps/earthmap2k.jpg
This is a free earth map by James Hastings-Trew. His other planetary
images are available at:
http://apollo.spaceports.com/~jhasting
The file night.jpg is a scaled version of
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/Images/earth_lights_lrg.jpg
Details about this file can be found at
http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/viewrecord?5826
This image is not copyrighted. From
http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/help.html:
We are using "earth.jpg" for the day map, and "night.jpg" for the night.
The "blending" of day and night parts is done by xplanet itselt.
According to the README most if not all images are free from any
copyright restrictions.
While the source of earth does not seem to exist today, in
http://gw.marketingden.com/planets/planets.html
seems to be the original source of the map.
There are 1000x500, 2000x1000, 4000x2000 and 10000x5000 versions (the 4k
one nearly crashes my laptop by taking the whole swap file to thrash
when using mozilla on it. ;-)
>> 1. The data gathering should be separate from the report/map
>>generation.
>
>
> In our company we actually use secure DDNS to push them into our
> DNS entries (we simply user our emails and swap the @ for a .). But that
> still requires an efford :-)
>
One thing I like about using jabber presence is that you can switch
status, or even turn it off, at will. Furthermore, the jabber protocol
is free, extensible, XML chunk based and designed without a central
server architecture.
The DDNS idea would "bite" into the username.community.apache.org (this
was suggested for home pages), then ;-)
>
>> 2. Privacy policy statements are badly needed, particularly when you
>> want to display more interesting data, like time of last commit.
>> This is, darn it, an interesting design problem.
>
>
> Well; again; what we do in asemantics.com is push a fair chunk of info
> directly into DNS; or we use NAPTR records in DNS followed by an SRV
> record; typically to HTTP.
>
>
>> 3. I very much don't want the data or the reports checked into CVS.
>>
>> 4. It would be fun to pull RSS alternate links as well and use
>> that to highlight those people with recent postings.
>
>
> Aye.
>
>
>> 5. It would be very interesting to look into signing, encrypting, etc
>> the contents of the page.
>
>
> :-) You'd almost want to go back on a push based 'messaging' service;
> where the message could be an RDF record (or chunk of Dublin Core) with a
> pgp signature; try
>
> dig mobile.webweaving.org LOC
> dig mobile.webweaving.org ANY
>
> for some of those we use in house (height is a factor 100 off by the way).
>
Too late for Europe, I'll try again tomorrow.
Regards,
Santiago
> Dw
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Re: How get on the map!
Posted by Dirk-Willem van Gulik <di...@webweaving.org>.
On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, Ben Hyde wrote:
> http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/viewrecord?11656
Hmm MODIS - nice; that 250/pixel at Nadir - did not know they had made
such a nice cloud free mosaic. Shame you cannot download them directly.
Will send Babera an email.
> http://www.radcyberzine.com/xglobe/
> http://awka.sourceforge.net/xglobe.html
Hmm; those are just a few thousand across. And I've seen the Living Earth
folks being quite strict about (c).
I was more hoping for the 1km per pixel sort of range. I'll stick to ETOPO
or GLOBE for that scale then now then and will do a bit of processing.
> My favorite?
> http://flatplanet.sourceforge.net/maps/images/1678k5.jpg
I'll add that once once I'am done with the real one :-)
Dw
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Re: How get on the map!
Posted by Ben Hyde <bh...@pobox.com>.
> a hi-rez version of that
> background map
http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/viewrecord?11656
http://www.radcyberzine.com/xglobe/
http://awka.sourceforge.net/xglobe.html
My favorite?
http://flatplanet.sourceforge.net/maps/images/1678k5.jpg
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Re: How get on the map!
Posted by Dirk-Willem van Gulik <di...@webweaving.org>.
On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, Ben Hyde wrote:
> I can't make maps at until I convince one of the machines in my house
> to build a version of xworld with tiff and gif||png support.
Well - if either Santiago or you send me a hi-rez version of that
background map - then I can automate the layering with ease; allowing for
zoom in/panning until that background map runs out of pixels.
> 1. The data gathering should be separate from the report/map
> generation.
In our company we actually use secure DDNS to push them into our
DNS entries (we simply user our emails and swap the @ for a .). But that
still requires an efford :-)
> 2. Privacy policy statements are badly needed, particularly when you
> want to display more interesting data, like time of last commit.
> This is, darn it, an interesting design problem.
Well; again; what we do in asemantics.com is push a fair chunk of info
directly into DNS; or we use NAPTR records in DNS followed by an SRV
record; typically to HTTP.
> 3. I very much don't want the data or the reports checked into CVS.
>
> 4. It would be fun to pull RSS alternate links as well and use
> that to highlight those people with recent postings.
Aye.
> 5. It would be very interesting to look into signing, encrypting, etc
> the contents of the page.
:-) You'd almost want to go back on a push based 'messaging' service;
where the message could be an RDF record (or chunk of Dublin Core) with a
pgp signature; try
dig mobile.webweaving.org LOC
dig mobile.webweaving.org ANY
for some of those we use in house (height is a factor 100 off by the way).
Dw
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Re: How get on the map!
Posted by Ben Hyde <bh...@pobox.com>.
Dirk-Willem, Santiago - too cool!
Thanks to all for fixing my typos and adding more doco!
I can't make maps at until I convince one of the machines in my house
to build a version of xworld with tiff and gif||png support.
39 people in committers/urls.txt, but that's a small subset
the 600+ in /etc/passwd.
From an architectural point some things I'm thinking about.
1. The data gathering should be separate from the report/map
generation.
2. Privacy policy statements are badly needed, particularly when you
want to display more interesting data, like time of last commit.
This is, darn it, an interesting design problem.
3. I very much don't want the data or the reports checked into CVS.
4. It would be fun to pull RSS alternate links as well and use
that to highlight those people with recent postings.
5. It would be very interesting to look into signing, encrypting, etc
the contents of the page.
- ben
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Re: How get on the map!
Posted by Santiago Gala <sg...@hisitech.com>.
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
>
> On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote:
>
>
>>We should probably need a tool to merge several images into one, I imagine.
>
>
> Or just clever HTML/css ?
>
I'm not at all an expert in writing CSS stuff, but it sure is a good idea.
> ..
>
>>I'll clean a little bit, and commit (if it is clean enough) or send a
>>patch with the "generate_map.pl" which generates the html file to the
>>list, and the required changes to the Makefile.
>
>
> Looking forward to that.
>
Done. I have committed everything. Makefile has small changes and new
targets: map.html nightmap.jpg nightmap.html
A current result is at:
http://cvs.apache.org/~sgala/map.html
http://cvs.apache.org/~sgala/nightmap.html
I hope the changes do not spoil Ben's plan.
>
>>Anbody should feel free to show a more integrated demo playing with the
>>Makefile or scripts, I don't think that Ben cares, unless we spoil the
>>repository ;-) , for alternative/complementary code or ideas. This is
>>what I have been doing, just jumping on his offering a little farther
>>than just giving my coordinates :-)
>
>
> :-) and it sure looks good !
>
The earth is beautiful, in fact I always get fascinated by the image in
xplanet. I have used this under kde as a screensaver, refreshing every hour.
Regards,
Santiago
> Dw
>
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Re: How get on the map!
Posted by Dirk-Willem van Gulik <di...@webweaving.org>.
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote:
> We should probably need a tool to merge several images into one, I imagine.
Or just clever HTML/css ?
..
> I'll clean a little bit, and commit (if it is clean enough) or send a
> patch with the "generate_map.pl" which generates the html file to the
> list, and the required changes to the Makefile.
Looking forward to that.
> Anbody should feel free to show a more integrated demo playing with the
> Makefile or scripts, I don't think that Ben cares, unless we spoil the
> repository ;-) , for alternative/complementary code or ideas. This is
> what I have been doing, just jumping on his offering a little farther
> than just giving my coordinates :-)
:-) and it sure looks good !
Dw
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Re: How get on the map!
Posted by Santiago Gala <sg...@hisitech.com>.
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
>
> On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote:
>
>
>>I'm not a GIS expert at all, and I'm not sure if I understand. I'm
>>currently downloading the jar you pointed us to, to know more.
>
>
> Essentially the url demo.asemantics.com/wms/asf?request=GetCapabilities
> gives you metadata - in there you find that you can get jpegs and png's
> and that there is a layer 'comloc'.
>
> You then request lat-lon boxes from a layer as gif or png's. You do
> this from several servers; overlay them and present them.
>
Ok, I'm beginning to understand :-)
> But because each request is a simple URL it is very easy to make
> very dynamic web interfaces with little more than <img src="...
We should probably need a tool to merge several images into one, I imagine.
>
>
>>xplanet can be "sliced" to show only parts of the world. So we could
>>have a "fixed" imagemap with zones, also generated at a bigger scale, or
>>use the xplanet images as background for the WMS map.
>
>
> Ah nice.
>
>
>>Ben started rather "static" WRT display. I'm just adding tooltips and
>>links to the URLs given.
>
>
> I saw that. Nice.
>
>
>>The map1 variant would need to be recalculated to show "true" nigh and
>>day, something like once an hour, at least. It also uses "available.gif"
>
>
> Or have one for each hour (and regenerate them once a month).
>
>
>>from the apache distribution icons reduced to half size. It could be
>>turned to "unavailable.gif" following criteria like jabber presence,
>>etc. This would call for a fully dynamic app (rebuilding when a
>>committer signs on or off), or at least something that rebuilds every
>>few minutes.
>
>
> Right; we use Secure Dynamic DNS for that inside our company.
>
>
>>If we want to keep it mostly static, I would say that having a regional
>>division where Things would get progressively bigger could be a
>>solution. The upper layer could be like map.jpg or map1.jpg is now. For
>>inner layers, either the zoom of xplanet or the GIS system could be used:
>
>
> Ack - WMS also has a feature called 'GetFeatureInfo' which allows you to
> query a point.
>
>
>>Click on Europe (very crowded), then you get only Europe. Ditto for the
>>States, Oceania, etc.
>
>
> Right - that is why I did the WMS interface; so you can zoom into any
> level.
>
I think that, since Ben started it (and has ideas on how to proceed, I'm
sure) I'll leave it here for the moment. I don't have a clear idea of
the purpose of his experiment. I think if would fit as a/the index of
the "home pages" stuff, if it ever comes up.
I'll clean a little bit, and commit (if it is clean enough) or send a
patch with the "generate_map.pl" which generates the html file to the
list, and the required changes to the Makefile.
When he is reading back he can keep on with what he wanted (post it at
the web site regularly, change file formats to have separate URL for
geolocation and content, a way to get permission to publish this, etc.)
For the moment, we have something (not perfect) that will allow to list
names so that I can read them (my glasses got broken, I need new ones),
and maybe go to a home page or show availability.
Anbody should feel free to show a more integrated demo playing with the
Makefile or scripts, I don't think that Ben cares, unless we spoil the
repository ;-) , for alternative/complementary code or ideas. This is
what I have been doing, just jumping on his offering a little farther
than just giving my coordinates :-)
Regards,
Santiago
> Dw.
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Re: How get on the map!
Posted by Dirk-Willem van Gulik <di...@webweaving.org>.
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote:
> I'm not a GIS expert at all, and I'm not sure if I understand. I'm
> currently downloading the jar you pointed us to, to know more.
Essentially the url demo.asemantics.com/wms/asf?request=GetCapabilities
gives you metadata - in there you find that you can get jpegs and png's
and that there is a layer 'comloc'.
You then request lat-lon boxes from a layer as gif or png's. You do
this from several servers; overlay them and present them.
But because each request is a simple URL it is very easy to make
very dynamic web interfaces with little more than <img src="...
> xplanet can be "sliced" to show only parts of the world. So we could
> have a "fixed" imagemap with zones, also generated at a bigger scale, or
> use the xplanet images as background for the WMS map.
Ah nice.
> Ben started rather "static" WRT display. I'm just adding tooltips and
> links to the URLs given.
I saw that. Nice.
> The map1 variant would need to be recalculated to show "true" nigh and
> day, something like once an hour, at least. It also uses "available.gif"
Or have one for each hour (and regenerate them once a month).
> from the apache distribution icons reduced to half size. It could be
> turned to "unavailable.gif" following criteria like jabber presence,
> etc. This would call for a fully dynamic app (rebuilding when a
> committer signs on or off), or at least something that rebuilds every
> few minutes.
Right; we use Secure Dynamic DNS for that inside our company.
> If we want to keep it mostly static, I would say that having a regional
> division where Things would get progressively bigger could be a
> solution. The upper layer could be like map.jpg or map1.jpg is now. For
> inner layers, either the zoom of xplanet or the GIS system could be used:
Ack - WMS also has a feature called 'GetFeatureInfo' which allows you to
query a point.
> Click on Europe (very crowded), then you get only Europe. Ditto for the
> States, Oceania, etc.
Right - that is why I did the WMS interface; so you can zoom into any
level.
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Re: How get on the map!
Posted by Santiago Gala <sg...@hisitech.com>.
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
>
> On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote:
>
>
>>http://cvs.apache.org/~sgala/map1.html
>
>
> Very nice. Is there any way we could combine this with WMS - so we can
> offer zoom/panning with ease.
>
I'm not a GIS expert at all, and I'm not sure if I understand. I'm
currently downloading the jar you pointed us to, to know more.
xplanet can be "sliced" to show only parts of the world. So we could
have a "fixed" imagemap with zones, also generated at a bigger scale, or
use the xplanet images as background for the WMS map.
Ben started rather "static" WRT display. I'm just adding tooltips and
links to the URLs given.
The map1 variant would need to be recalculated to show "true" nigh and
day, something like once an hour, at least. It also uses "available.gif"
from the apache distribution icons reduced to half size. It could be
turned to "unavailable.gif" following criteria like jabber presence,
etc. This would call for a fully dynamic app (rebuilding when a
committer signs on or off), or at least something that rebuilds every
few minutes.
If we want to keep it mostly static, I would say that having a regional
division where Things would get progressively bigger could be a
solution. The upper layer could be like map.jpg or map1.jpg is now. For
inner layers, either the zoom of xplanet or the GIS system could be used:
Click on Europe (very crowded), then you get only Europe. Ditto for the
States, Oceania, etc.
> Dw.
>
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Re: How get on the map!
Posted by Dirk-Willem van Gulik <di...@webweaving.org>.
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote:
> http://cvs.apache.org/~sgala/map1.html
Very nice. Is there any way we could combine this with WMS - so we can
offer zoom/panning with ease.
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Re: How get on the map!
Posted by Santiago Gala <sg...@hisitech.com>.
Ben Hyde wrote:
>
> Santiago Gala wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking that the best way to show the names, ...
>
>
> Apparently the radius label doesn't work in marker files for my version
> of xplanet. I'm sure I saw examples of labels floating in space over
> the markers on the globe.
>
Try http://cvs.apache.org/~sgala/map.html
I had to do some dirty tricks to get it working, cause xplanet will not
"label" markers without showing the label. So I use a 1pt label with the
user name (generated through the private_map.jpg) to build the map and
then the map.jpg to display. It is noticeable that people with long
usernames will have active links longer to the right. :-(
I tried other variants, like:
http://cvs.apache.org/~sgala/map1.html
I would like feedback about committing some of these changes or sending
patches for further processing.
> Meanwhile I'm musing about some kind of policy statements that would
> allow people to clarify their permissiong of such privacy invading
> activities...
>
> Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
>
>>
>> Ben - could you also put the harversted lat/lon list there ?
>
>
> Prefered:
> cvs co committers
> cd committers/krell
> make tmp/geomarkers
>
> Currently:
> http://cvs.apache.org/markers.txt
>
> For that you only need unix and perl.
>
>> I'd like to
>> slap a WMS (Open GIS Web Mapping Server) interface over it - so one can
>> doe things like zoom in; or change the background, add roads, etc.
>
>
> Oh that would be neat!
>
> David Crossley wrote:
>
>> Wow, great work Ben and Santiago. I added to the FAQ to explain
>> geographic co-ordinates. Some people have their latitude and
>> longitude reversed.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>> The obvious ones are: bdelacretaz, gstein,
>> jwoolley
>
>
> Actually they haven't exposed their location, so I dumped then in
> Antarctica.
>
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Re: How get on the map!
Posted by Dirk-Willem van Gulik <di...@webweaving.org>.
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Ben Hyde wrote:
> > slap a WMS (Open GIS Web Mapping Server) interface over it - so one can
> > doe things like zoom in; or change the background, add roads, etc.
>
> Oh that would be neat!
nearly done :-)
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Re: How get on the map!
Posted by Ben Hyde <bh...@pobox.com>.
Santiago Gala wrote:
> I'm thinking that the best way to show the names, ...
Apparently the radius label doesn't work in marker files for my version
of xplanet. I'm sure I saw examples of labels floating in space over
the markers on the globe.
Meanwhile I'm musing about some kind of policy statements that would
allow people to clarify their permissiong of such privacy invading
activities...
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
>
> Ben - could you also put the harversted lat/lon list there ?
Prefered:
cvs co committers
cd committers/krell
make tmp/geomarkers
Currently:
http://cvs.apache.org/markers.txt
For that you only need unix and perl.
> I'd like to
> slap a WMS (Open GIS Web Mapping Server) interface over it - so one can
> doe things like zoom in; or change the background, add roads, etc.
Oh that would be neat!
David Crossley wrote:
> Wow, great work Ben and Santiago. I added to the FAQ to explain
> geographic co-ordinates. Some people have their latitude and
> longitude reversed.
Thanks!
> The obvious ones are: bdelacretaz, gstein,
> jwoolley
Actually they haven't exposed their location, so I dumped then in
Antarctica.
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Re: How get on the map!
Posted by Dirk-Willem van Gulik <di...@webweaving.org>.
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Ben Hyde wrote:
> I've moved the map here:
>
> http://cvs.apache.org/~bhyde/map.jpg
Ben - could you also put the harversted lat/lon list there ? I'd like to
slap a WMS (Open GIS Web Mapping Server) interface over it - so one can
doe things like zoom in; or change the background, add roads, etc.
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Re: How get on the map!
Posted by Ben Hyde <bh...@pobox.com>.
I've moved the map here:
http://cvs.apache.org/~bhyde/map.jpg
Too many enhancements in one day...
- ben
On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 05:31 PM, Ben Hyde wrote:
> The map is looking better.
>
> http://www.cozy.org/ben/map.jpg
>
> 21 locations known plus 4 more in urls.jpg who are keeping their
> location a secret. I guessed where they are and put them Antarctica.
>
> Here's how to join the fun:
>
> 1. Check out the committer's repository:
>
> cvs -d cvs.apache.org:/home/cvs co committers
>
> 2. Read the FAQ:
>
> committers/krell/FAQ
>
> - ben
>
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