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[OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
Yes, I have searched the mailing list, but still searching the struts
mailing list doesn't always bring back the best search results.
So, anyway, I'm looking to leave my hosting provider. They were great for
the first few years, but lately the problems with them have been too much
for me to handle anymore.
Of my mailing list searching, this hosting provider seems to hold the most
promise:
http://www.lunarpages.com/plan2.php
I'd be interested in some other recommendations (java/jsp support
obviously:) and/or companies to stay away from, on or off-list is fine with
me. At this point I don't even mind paying more for a good uptime and
service.
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Rick
Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
Posted by Rick Reumann <ri...@gmail.com>.
So you are saying you can't get a separate context (your own WEB-INF, etc)
for each additional domain?
On 3/1/06, chhum@kattare.com <ch...@kattare.com> wrote:
>
> Just to say I'd also recommend www.kattare.com
> I moved 3 sites to them around about a year ago and they've been
> amazing – extremely helpful getting us up and running, and solid as a
> rock ever since.
> The specific answer to your question though, I think, is no. In my
> case all my domains run in a single tomcat instance so if I need to
> take tomcat down I take all 3 out. I rarely have to do this and I have
> an agreed outage window with all my clients at the same time each week
> so, if I need to do some maintenance, I handle it that way.
>
>
>
>
> Quoting Rick Reumann <ri...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Ted, I'll email them to find out .. but do you happen to know how
> > the
> > private JVM works when you have more than one site hosted? I'd need
> > my own
> > context per domain... but I can't tell from the pricing chart if when
> > you
> > have another domain added, does it automatically get its own private
> > JVM?
> >
> > On 3/1/06, Ted Husted <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > www.kattare.com has been stellar so far. We had to work through
> > some
> > > issues to setup Roller, and they accomodated me at ever step.
> > >
> > > -Ted.
> > >
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Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
Posted by ch...@kattare.com.
Just to say Id also recommend www.kattare.com
I moved 3 sites to them around about a year ago and theyve been
amazing extremely helpful getting us up and running, and solid as a
rock ever since.
The specific answer to your question though, I think, is no. In my
case all my domains run in a single tomcat instance so if I need to
take tomcat down I take all 3 out. I rarely have to do this and I have
an agreed outage window with all my clients at the same time each week
so, if I need to do some maintenance, I handle it that way.
Quoting Rick Reumann <ri...@gmail.com>:
> Ted, I'll email them to find out .. but do you happen to know how
> the
> private JVM works when you have more than one site hosted? I'd need
> my own
> context per domain... but I can't tell from the pricing chart if when
> you
> have another domain added, does it automatically get its own private
> JVM?
>
> On 3/1/06, Ted Husted <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > www.kattare.com has been stellar so far. We had to work through
> some
> > issues to setup Roller, and they accomodated me at ever step.
> >
> > -Ted.
> >
> >
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>
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Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
Posted by Rick Reumann <ri...@gmail.com>.
Ted, I'll email them to find out .. but do you happen to know how the
private JVM works when you have more than one site hosted? I'd need my own
context per domain... but I can't tell from the pricing chart if when you
have another domain added, does it automatically get its own private JVM?
On 3/1/06, Ted Husted <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> www.kattare.com has been stellar so far. We had to work through some
> issues to setup Roller, and they accomodated me at ever step.
>
> -Ted.
>
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Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
Posted by Rick Reumann <ri...@gmail.com>.
On 3/1/06, Ted Husted <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> www.kattare.com has been stellar so far. We had to work through some
> issues to setup Roller, and they accomodated me at ever step.
Wow, very nice. Thanks Ted. The only thing is I'd need to host a few addon
domains and it appears I'd have to jump from the 3.1 level to the corporate
account at 40/month http://www.kattare.com/services_pricing.kvws in order
to achieve this.
When things are running smoothly I really love what I get for the money at
hostforweb with the supreme package
http://hostforweb.com/hosting_supreme.html . I haven't found anything close
to what they offer for the buck... but I guess now they're trying to jam too
many accounts on each server and customer support has gone down recently
also (I've been several tickets today without a response back and I still
can't access my site http://www.learntechnology.net/ .).
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Rick
Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
Posted by Ted Husted <te...@gmail.com>.
www.kattare.com has been stellar so far. We had to work through some
issues to setup Roller, and they accomodated me at ever step.
-Ted.
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Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
Posted by Bryan LaPlante <br...@xoscript.org>.
I feel your pain guys. I found a provider that made me wander why more of
them don't do this. http://www.eapps.com you get a virtual machine running
Linux for each domain and one of the most comprehensive control panels I
have ever used. 20 bucks a month gives you a fair amount of features and
space.
My 2 cents
Bryan LaPlante
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From: "Frank W. Zammetti" <fz...@omnytex.com>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <us...@struts.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up
before on the list.
> While I agree they do this (it happened to me once), that is a risk you
> run in ANY shared hosting environment... an admin has to make a quick
> decision that will keep the other people sharing your box running, and
> many times the easiest solution (and arguably best) is to shut down the
> offending service, or app, or even domain, and then try and resolve it
> with the person who owns the supposed offender. They seem to be pretty
> good at least of informing you in a timely fashion that they had to shut
> X or Y down on you. At least, the one time it happened to me this was
true.
>
> I have been with Lunarpages for I think close to 3 years now, something
> like that, and it's been a fantastic experience overall. I personally
> WOULD recommend them... good price for what you get, and they are quite
> responsive (in my experience) to support requests, and for the most part
> let you do what you want (yes, there are some "not allowed" items to be
> aware of as Wendy points out). But, I seriously doubt they are checking
> everyones' domains, they will only know if a problem arises, so if your
> careful I suspect you can skirt that rule just a bit :)
>
> Frank
>
> Wendy Smoak wrote:
> > On 3/1/06, Rick Reumann <ri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Of my mailing list searching, this hosting provider seems to hold the
most
> >> promise:
> >>
> >> http://www.lunarpages.com/plan2.php
> >
> >
> > I wouldn't... LunarPages has a habit of just disabling access to
anything
> > that they suspect is causing a problem. Sometimes they have a
legitimate
> > point, sometimes they just say you're "using too many resources" or
> > "affecting other customers on the server".
> >
> > And look at the things that they say are not allowed, including JSF and
> > Spring:
> > http://helpdesk.lunarpages.com/faq.php?do=article&articleid=120
> >
> > --
> > Wendy
> >
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Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up
before on the list.
Posted by "Frank W. Zammetti" <fz...@omnytex.com>.
While I agree they do this (it happened to me once), that is a risk you
run in ANY shared hosting environment... an admin has to make a quick
decision that will keep the other people sharing your box running, and
many times the easiest solution (and arguably best) is to shut down the
offending service, or app, or even domain, and then try and resolve it
with the person who owns the supposed offender. They seem to be pretty
good at least of informing you in a timely fashion that they had to shut
X or Y down on you. At least, the one time it happened to me this was true.
I have been with Lunarpages for I think close to 3 years now, something
like that, and it's been a fantastic experience overall. I personally
WOULD recommend them... good price for what you get, and they are quite
responsive (in my experience) to support requests, and for the most part
let you do what you want (yes, there are some "not allowed" items to be
aware of as Wendy points out). But, I seriously doubt they are checking
everyones' domains, they will only know if a problem arises, so if your
careful I suspect you can skirt that rule just a bit :)
Frank
Wendy Smoak wrote:
> On 3/1/06, Rick Reumann <ri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Of my mailing list searching, this hosting provider seems to hold the most
>> promise:
>>
>> http://www.lunarpages.com/plan2.php
>
>
> I wouldn't... LunarPages has a habit of just disabling access to anything
> that they suspect is causing a problem. Sometimes they have a legitimate
> point, sometimes they just say you're "using too many resources" or
> "affecting other customers on the server".
>
> And look at the things that they say are not allowed, including JSF and
> Spring:
> http://helpdesk.lunarpages.com/faq.php?do=article&articleid=120
>
> --
> Wendy
>
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Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
Posted by Rick Reumann <ri...@gmail.com>.
Wow, thanks for the info Wendy. This is frustrating. Do you have any
recomendations?
On 3/1/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 3/1/06, Rick Reumann <ri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Of my mailing list searching, this hosting provider seems to hold the most
> > promise:
> >
> > http://www.lunarpages.com/plan2.php
>
>
> I wouldn't... LunarPages has a habit of just disabling access to anything
> that they suspect is causing a problem. Sometimes they have a legitimate
> point, sometimes they just say you're "using too many resources" or
> "affecting other customers on the server".
>
> And look at the things that they say are not allowed, including JSF and
> Spring:
> http://helpdesk.lunarpages.com/faq.php?do=article&articleid=120
>
> --
> Wendy
>
>
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Rick
Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
Posted by ch...@kattare.com.
I should hvae said Jason Hunter's site has a good list of ISP's with
user reviews and might also be worth a browse. See
http://www.servlets.com/isps/servlet/ISPViewAll
Quoting Michael Jouravlev <jm...@gmail.com>:
> On 3/1/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 3/1/06, Rick Reumann <ri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Of my mailing list searching, this hosting provider seems to hold
> the most
> > > promise:
> > >
> > > http://www.lunarpages.com/plan2.php
> >
> >
> > I wouldn't... LunarPages has a habit of just disabling access to
> anything
> > that they suspect is causing a problem. Sometimes they have a
> legitimate
> > point, sometimes they just say you're "using too many resources"
> or
> > "affecting other customers on the server".
>
> This sucks.
>
> > And look at the things that they say are not allowed, including JSF
> and
> > Spring:
> >
> http://helpdesk.lunarpages.com/faq.php?do=article&articleid=120
>
> Would works for me with JSP + Struts + iBATIS ;)
>
> I use eroute.net, signed up about two years ago, so I pay about ten
> bucks a month for shared hosting. Now they charge $17, I am not sure
> would I sign up right now.
>
> Pro: pretty fast and friendly email responses, ftp (you can drop the
> files you need wherever you want them), mysql/postgres, can use
> pretty
> much any libraries you like, can have several web apps on one plan.
>
> Cons: need to email them to reboot the server (this really is not a
> drawback since the server is shared anyway). Several times I found
> my
> app unavailable in the past apparently because it was hosted on a
> server instance that was being rebooted a lot. They probably moved
> my
> app on another instance with less reboots, because my demos are
> available now most of the time. Have to pay extra for Tomcat5, they
> still use Tomcat4 on standard plan. Kinda slow, ok for demos, but
> for
> a real app I would ask for more memory.
>
> All in all, works for me for the money I pay and the kind of demos I
> have. For a larger high-avail application... I am not sure.
>
> I was considering rimuhosting, at that time I could get a dedicated
> server for about $25. I guess they do not have this prices anymore
> :)
> I did not sign for it because they basically give you access to a
> Linux machine and then you are on your own. Which is great for a
> Linux
> guru, but I am a Windows guy :)
>
> Michael.
>
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Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
Posted by Michael Jouravlev <jm...@gmail.com>.
On 3/1/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/1/06, Rick Reumann <ri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Of my mailing list searching, this hosting provider seems to hold the most
> > promise:
> >
> > http://www.lunarpages.com/plan2.php
>
>
> I wouldn't... LunarPages has a habit of just disabling access to anything
> that they suspect is causing a problem. Sometimes they have a legitimate
> point, sometimes they just say you're "using too many resources" or
> "affecting other customers on the server".
This sucks.
> And look at the things that they say are not allowed, including JSF and
> Spring:
> http://helpdesk.lunarpages.com/faq.php?do=article&articleid=120
Would works for me with JSP + Struts + iBATIS ;)
I use eroute.net, signed up about two years ago, so I pay about ten
bucks a month for shared hosting. Now they charge $17, I am not sure
would I sign up right now.
Pro: pretty fast and friendly email responses, ftp (you can drop the
files you need wherever you want them), mysql/postgres, can use pretty
much any libraries you like, can have several web apps on one plan.
Cons: need to email them to reboot the server (this really is not a
drawback since the server is shared anyway). Several times I found my
app unavailable in the past apparently because it was hosted on a
server instance that was being rebooted a lot. They probably moved my
app on another instance with less reboots, because my demos are
available now most of the time. Have to pay extra for Tomcat5, they
still use Tomcat4 on standard plan. Kinda slow, ok for demos, but for
a real app I would ask for more memory.
All in all, works for me for the money I pay and the kind of demos I
have. For a larger high-avail application... I am not sure.
I was considering rimuhosting, at that time I could get a dedicated
server for about $25. I guess they do not have this prices anymore :)
I did not sign for it because they basically give you access to a
Linux machine and then you are on your own. Which is great for a Linux
guru, but I am a Windows guy :)
Michael.
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Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
Posted by Greg Reddin <gr...@apache.org>.
I've had terrible experience with Astrahosting. I wouldn't use
anything by them or Web Design Plus (I think is the parent company
name).
Greg
On Mar 1, 2006, at 11:55 AM, Wendy Smoak wrote:
> On 3/1/06, Rick Reumann <ri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Of my mailing list searching, this hosting provider seems to hold
> the most
>
>> promise:
>>
>> http://www.lunarpages.com/plan2.php
>>
>
>
> I wouldn't... LunarPages has a habit of just disabling access to
> anything
> that they suspect is causing a problem. Sometimes they have a
> legitimate
> point, sometimes they just say you're "using too many resources" or
> "affecting other customers on the server".
>
> And look at the things that they say are not allowed, including JSF
> and
> Spring:
> http://helpdesk.lunarpages.com/faq.php?do=article&articleid=120
>
> --
> Wendy
>
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Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On 3/1/06, Rick Reumann <ri...@gmail.com> wrote:
Of my mailing list searching, this hosting provider seems to hold the most
> promise:
>
> http://www.lunarpages.com/plan2.php
I wouldn't... LunarPages has a habit of just disabling access to anything
that they suspect is causing a problem. Sometimes they have a legitimate
point, sometimes they just say you're "using too many resources" or
"affecting other customers on the server".
And look at the things that they say are not allowed, including JSF and
Spring:
http://helpdesk.lunarpages.com/faq.php?do=article&articleid=120
--
Wendy
Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
Posted by Leon Rosenberg <ro...@googlemail.com>.
I can offer you webhosting. In fact I'm doing this to a (small) number
of customers right now. You can have your own tomcat and virtual host
integration in the apache. Mail/Backup/ssh/ftp access is also offered.
Contact me offlist if you are interested :-)
Leon
On 3/1/06, Rick Reumann <ri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, I have searched the mailing list, but still searching the struts
> mailing list doesn't always bring back the best search results.
>
> So, anyway, I'm looking to leave my hosting provider. They were great for
> the first few years, but lately the problems with them have been too much
> for me to handle anymore.
>
> Of my mailing list searching, this hosting provider seems to hold the most
> promise:
>
> http://www.lunarpages.com/plan2.php
>
> I'd be interested in some other recommendations (java/jsp support
> obviously:) and/or companies to stay away from, on or off-list is fine with
> me. At this point I don't even mind paying more for a good uptime and
> service.
>
> --
> Rick
>
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