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tomcat Access logs

Hi,
I am using a tomcat tailer which needs the file name to be the same and not
changinging (Dont want to see the Date in the file name). hence i want a
solution to have the logs rotated as well as the file name of the active log
files to remain the same.... Do we have a solution like it?

When i search in the internet i found logrotate copytruncate option
available, can we use this? whats the implication? do you guys recommend it?

Regards,
</VJ>

Re: tomcat Access logs

Posted by Vijay <vi...@gmail.com>.
The problem is that i cannot use copy truncate, coz the access log is
currently 200MB and we expect it to grow... it takes time to copy and in our
production system we dont want to loose the data..... same issue when i use
a perl or other scripts....
We are currently using tomcat 5 so option 2 i more complicated for us.
Thanks for your input's and i will try both the option in all different ways
i can address it.

Regards,
</VJ>

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Martin Gainty <mg...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>       logrotate  is  designed to ease administration of systems that
> generate
>       large numbers of log files.  It allows automatic rotation,
> compression,
>       removal, and mailing of log files.  Each log file may be handled
> daily,
>       weekly, monthly, or when it grows too large.
> http://iain.cx/src/logrotate/
>
> and logrotate parameter copytruncate
>       copytruncate
>              Truncate the original log file to zero size  in  place  after
>  creating  a  copy,
>              instead  of moving the old log file and optionally creating a
> new one.  It can be
>              used when some program cannot be told to close its logfile and
>  thus  might  con-
>              tinue writing (appending) to the previous log file forever.
>  Note that there is a
>              very small time slice between copying the file and truncating
> it, so some logging
>              data  might  be  lost.   When this option is used, the create
> option will have no
>              effect, as the old log file stays in place.
> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Log_File_Rotationlog4j and commons-logging are
> loggind implementations specific to TC logging
> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/logging.html
>
> apparently logrotate (with copyrotate option) has the widest range of
> logging activity for application, cron and webapps available
>
> ?
> Martin Gainty
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> > From: vijay2win@gmail.com
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 10:36:15 -0700
> > Subject: Re: tomcat Access logs
> > To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> >
> > Hi,
> > Any help will be useful... should i write a custom log4j class instead of
> > accessvalve class in tomcat?
> >
> > Regards,
> > </VJ>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Vijay <vi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > I am using a tomcat tailer which needs the file name to be the same and
> not
> > > changinging (Dont want to see the Date in the file name). hence i want
> a
> > > solution to have the logs rotated as well as the file name of the
> active log
> > > files to remain the same.... Do we have a solution like it?
> > >
> > > When i search in the internet i found logrotate copytruncate option
> > > available, can we use this? whats the implication? do you guys
> recommend it?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > </VJ>
> > >
>
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RE: tomcat Access logs

Posted by Martin Gainty <mg...@hotmail.com>.
       logrotate  is  designed to ease administration of systems that generate
       large numbers of log files.  It allows automatic rotation, compression,
       removal, and mailing of log files.  Each log file may be handled daily,
       weekly, monthly, or when it grows too large.
http://iain.cx/src/logrotate/

and logrotate parameter copytruncate
       copytruncate
              Truncate the original log file to zero size  in  place  after  creating  a  copy,
              instead  of moving the old log file and optionally creating a new one.  It can be
              used when some program cannot be told to close its logfile and  thus  might  con-
              tinue writing (appending) to the previous log file forever.  Note that there is a
              very small time slice between copying the file and truncating it, so some logging
              data  might  be  lost.   When this option is used, the create option will have no
              effect, as the old log file stays in place.
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Log_File_Rotationlog4j and commons-logging are loggind implementations specific to TC logging
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/logging.html

apparently logrotate (with copyrotate option) has the widest range of logging activity for application, cron and webapps available 

?
Martin Gainty 
______________________________________________ 
Verzicht und Vertraulichkeitanmerkung/Note de déni et de confidentialité
 
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> From: vijay2win@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 10:36:15 -0700
> Subject: Re: tomcat Access logs
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> 
> Hi,
> Any help will be useful... should i write a custom log4j class instead of
> accessvalve class in tomcat?
> 
> Regards,
> </VJ>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Vijay <vi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > I am using a tomcat tailer which needs the file name to be the same and not
> > changinging (Dont want to see the Date in the file name). hence i want a
> > solution to have the logs rotated as well as the file name of the active log
> > files to remain the same.... Do we have a solution like it?
> >
> > When i search in the internet i found logrotate copytruncate option
> > available, can we use this? whats the implication? do you guys recommend it?
> >
> > Regards,
> > </VJ>
> >

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Re: tomcat Access logs

Posted by André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com>.
Vijay wrote:
> Hi,
> Any help will be useful... should i write a custom log4j class instead of
> accessvalve class in tomcat?
> 
...

Yeah, well, welcome to the beautiful and mysterious world of Tomcat 
logging.  It is unfortunately totally incomprehensible to mere mortals, 
and you will need the assistance of one of the licensed gurus to 
navigate through its convoluted and labyrintine subtleties.
My advice would be to leave everything as it is, and write an external 
script using a real programming language (like Perl), to collect the 
logfiles older than 24 hours and do with them what you want.

In all likelihood however, the apostatic paragraph above should trigger 
some reactions here, so I would wait another couple of hours for other 
suggestions.



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Re: tomcat Access logs

Posted by Vijay <vi...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Any help will be useful... should i write a custom log4j class instead of
accessvalve class in tomcat?

Regards,
</VJ>




On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Vijay <vi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> I am using a tomcat tailer which needs the file name to be the same and not
> changinging (Dont want to see the Date in the file name). hence i want a
> solution to have the logs rotated as well as the file name of the active log
> files to remain the same.... Do we have a solution like it?
>
> When i search in the internet i found logrotate copytruncate option
> available, can we use this? whats the implication? do you guys recommend it?
>
> Regards,
> </VJ>
>

Re: tomcat Access logs

Posted by Konstantin Kolinko <kn...@gmail.com>.
2009/5/22 Vijay <vi...@gmail.com>:
> Hi,
> I am using a tomcat tailer which needs the file name to be the same and not
> changinging (Dont want to see the Date in the file name). hence i want a
> solution to have the logs rotated as well as the file name of the active log
> files to remain the same.... Do we have a solution like it?
>

Try to specify rotatable="false" in your configuration of AccessLogValve.

> When i search in the internet i found logrotate copytruncate option
> available, can we use this? whats the implication? do you guys recommend it?
>

It is fine. I am using it.

Best regards,
Konstantin Kolinko

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