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Posted to dev@myfaces.apache.org by Michael Concini <mc...@gmail.com> on 2009/06/08 23:11:38 UTC
[MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
All,
I thought it might be a good time to raise the issue of solidifying a
plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now that we've had a little time
to work with the release candidate draft of the spec. What are the
thoughts in the community with respect to what should be included in an
alpha release as well as what the time frame should be for a release.
If we can come up with a target date as well as specific 2.0 features we
want to target for inclusion, that should help in prioritizing the
remaining work.
From my end, I'd love to see a working runtime in some form by the end
of August if that's reasonable. As for content, that is definitely more
of an open question. Here is my top list of what I would like to see be
at least partially functional for an alpha release.
-backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps
-base support for facelets and composite components
-AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty good shape here thanks to
Ganesh and team)
-System event support
-Partial view traversal
Thoughts/concerns/objections?
-Mike
Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by Curtiss Howard <cu...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Werner Punz<we...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:
>>
>> Hey mike,
>>
>> I agree that we should try to get an *alpha* out of the door.
>>
>
> Full ack, I personally think the biggest priority for now is
> to get a working release so that we can start to test and fix
> the entire thing. As for now we have a load of parts, many of them already
> working well, but the full integration picture is missing.
>
> (Well I have not tried to run the entire thing standalone for now so my
> current knowledge might be wrong)
>
>
>
> Werner
>
>
That was what I was thinking as well. I think most of the focus has
been on "filling the gaps" but how well those pieces work together is
rather unknown.
Curtiss Howard
Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com>.
Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:
> Hey mike,
>
> I agree that we should try to get an *alpha* out of the door.
>
Full ack, I personally think the biggest priority for now is
to get a working release so that we can start to test and fix
the entire thing. As for now we have a load of parts, many of them
already working well, but the full integration picture is missing.
(Well I have not tried to run the entire thing standalone for now so my
current knowledge might be wrong)
Werner
Re: Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by ja...@gmail.com.
Hi,
The end of my extremely busy project is near, so I should have more time to
work on MyFaces.
My last work was on the annotation processing stuff, but AFAIK, Leonardo
has continued this work.
@Leonardo: What's the current state?
Something else, some weeks ago, there was a discussion about restructuring
the SVN, but that was delayed to enable Leonardo to do a release. Maybe
this is a good time for the restructuring, before starting with the real
work.
Maybe we should also cleanup the build. Now Shale has been moved to the
attic, we can upgrade the Shale mocks to 2.0. Then we can try to make all
tests pass. We might also standardize on a testing framework (JUnit or
TestNG) to simplify things...
When all tests are up and running, the build process should be more smooth.
/JK
On Jun 9, 2009 1:07am, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hey mike,
> I agree that we should try to get an *alpha* out of the door.
> Main mantra is: release often, release early
> q: what is the state on the facelets support, currently ?
> -Matthias
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Michael Concinimconcini@gmail.com> wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > I thought it might be a good time to raise the issue of solidifying a
> plan
> > for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now that we've had a little time to
> work
> > with the release candidate draft of the spec. What are the thoughts in
> the
> > community with respect to what should be included in an alpha release as
> > well as what the time frame should be for a release. If we can come up
> with
> > a target date as well as specific 2.0 features we want to target for
> > inclusion, that should help in prioritizing the remaining work.
> > From my end, I'd love to see a working runtime in some form by the end
> of
> > August if that's reasonable. As for content, that is definitely more of
> an
> > open question. Here is my top list of what I would like to see be at
> least
> > partially functional for an alpha release.
> > -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps
> > -base support for facelets and composite components
> > -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty good shape here thanks to
> > Ganesh and team)
> > -System event support
> > -Partial view traversal
> >
> > Thoughts/concerns/objections?
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
Hey mike,
I agree that we should try to get an *alpha* out of the door.
Main mantra is: release often, release early
q: what is the state on the facelets support, currently ?
-Matthias
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Michael Concini<mc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> All,
>
> I thought it might be a good time to raise the issue of solidifying a plan
> for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now that we've had a little time to work
> with the release candidate draft of the spec. What are the thoughts in the
> community with respect to what should be included in an alpha release as
> well as what the time frame should be for a release. If we can come up with
> a target date as well as specific 2.0 features we want to target for
> inclusion, that should help in prioritizing the remaining work.
> From my end, I'd love to see a working runtime in some form by the end of
> August if that's reasonable. As for content, that is definitely more of an
> open question. Here is my top list of what I would like to see be at least
> partially functional for an alpha release.
> -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps
> -base support for facelets and composite components
> -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty good shape here thanks to
> Ganesh and team)
> -System event support
> -Partial view traversal
>
> Thoughts/concerns/objections?
>
> -Mike
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by Alexander Bell <Al...@j4fry.org>.
Hi Leonardo,
I'm working on an implementation of the ajax-behavior-tag for J4Fry. I'm
using Mojarra in background but the base classes are all in javax.faces
packages so it is easy to move the J4Fry Ajax-Bahavior-Tag Implementation to
MyFaces.
Maybe I can support you on implementing the behavior topcis in MyFaces.
I'm gonna have a look at the MyFaces sources on this weekend.
Alex
2009/6/18 Leonardo Uribe <lu...@gmail.com>
>
>
> 2009/6/18 Ganesh <ga...@j4fry.org>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Would be great to have a basic page getting through, so new tags and
>> partial stuff can be based upon it. Has anyone tried?
>>
>
>> Implementation of f:ajax is based on client behaviour stuff. Have you
>> already started implementation (just to avoid duplicating it)?
>>
>
> Not yet. Right now I'm just reading the spec and the latest myfaces core
> code, trying to define pending tasks and what it is better to do at this
> time. Feel free to start working on it. I'll do some other tasks.
>
> regards
>
> Leonardo Uribe
>
>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Ganesh
>>
>> Leonardo Uribe schrieb:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Just as a brief review, this is an updated list about the state of
>>> myfaces core 2.0.0 branch:
>>>
>>> Pending tasks
>>>
>>> - Facelets PDL
>>> - Client behavior API (depends from facelets and composite component
>>> stuff)
>>> - Error handling API (and run through existing classes to make sure the
>>> new exception specification is enforced)
>>> - Partial view API
>>> - Partial State Saving
>>> - Add Flash scope
>>> - New tags (mostly linked to Facelets)
>>> - Unit tests (conversion shale -> myfaces code)
>>>
>>> Done tasks (some parts maybe requires testing or minor updates)
>>>
>>> - Resource API
>>> - Annotation support
>>> - h:outputScript and h:outputStyleSheet renderer
>>> - Config ordering
>>> - JavaScript API
>>> - Tree visiting API
>>> - SystemEvent API
>>> - New validators (Bean and regex mainly)
>>> - Utility methods (ExternalContext mainly) (requires testing)
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Leonardo Uribe
>>>
>>> 2009/6/9 Leonardo Uribe <lu4242@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Good to hear that facelets part will be committed soon. I hope to
>>> start working on javax.faces.behavior api and continue contribute
>>> on other parts of myfaces core 2.0 (for example implement partial
>>> state saving) as soon as tomahawk be released (planned on next week).
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Leonardo Uribe
>>>
>>> 2009/6/9 Simon Lessard <simon.lessard.3@gmail.com
>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>>
>>> We use the Facelets codebase, we just have to rename the
>>> package (already done), use the HandlerDelegate ... thing ...
>>> and implement the Facelets VDL. Those are not part of
>>> "standard" Facelets with existing ASL 2.0 code.
>>>
>>>
>>> ~ Simon
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Matthias Wessendorf
>>> <matzew@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Ganesh<ganesh@j4fry.org
>>> <ma...@j4fry.org>> wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > Facelets are apache 2.0 licensed,
>>>
>>> correct
>>>
>>> > why do we reinvent them?
>>>
>>> they added stuff for JSF 2.0
>>>
>>> e.g. <composite:interface> etc
>>> (but didn't put it into the Apache licensed version)
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Best regards,
>>> > Ganesh
>>> >
>>> > Simon Lessard schrieb:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> On my side I'll try to work and finish Facelets part
>>> within 2 weeks, fater
>>> >> than that is impossible for me atm.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >>
>>> >> ~ Simon
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Werner Punz
>>> <werner.punz@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>>> >> <mailto:werner.punz@gmail.com
>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:
>>> >>
>>> >> regarding tree visitor, this may help:
>>> >>
>>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1368
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for the link, I will get it and compare it to
>>> what I have...
>>> >> I assume there wont be too much which I still can
>>> integrated in
>>> >> the PartialVisitContext since I am rather optimized
>>> already and
>>> >> bound by the spec!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Werner
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> -Matthias
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Werner
>>> >> Punz<werner.punz@gmail.com
>>> <ma...@gmail.com>
>>> <mailto:werner.punz@gmail.com
>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Michael Concini schrieb:
>>> >>
>>> >> Wasn't there a plan to have some of the
>>> partial tree
>>> >> traversal work done
>>> >> as part of the Google Summer of Code? I
>>> seem to
>>> >> recall some discussion
>>> >> around this awhile back (don't have time
>>> to dig
>>> >> through the mailing list
>>> >> archives right now to check). Does
>>> anybody remember
>>> >> what the plan was with
>>> >> Google SoC?
>>> >>
>>> >> Interesting question, but I assume I only
>>> have a small
>>> >> subset of the needed
>>> >> functionality implemented, the one we need
>>> for PPR so,
>>> >> I will commit my tomorrow as soon as I have
>>> tested it,
>>> >> whoever wants to do
>>> >> something in GSOC can pick it up and refine
>>> it. But have
>>> >> in mind, my work
>>> >> currently only coveres the area of providing a
>>> >> PartialVisitContext so that I
>>> >> have a complete state for PPR in this area!
>>> >> If someone comes with a better solution I
>>> dont have any
>>> >> problem dropping the
>>> >> code again ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Werner
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Werner Punz wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Michael Concini schrieb:
>>> >>
>>> >> All,
>>> >>
>>> >> I thought it might be a good
>>> time to raise the
>>> >> issue of solidifying a
>>> >> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha
>>> release now
>>> >> that we've had a little time to
>>> >> work with the release candidate
>>> draft of the
>>> >> spec. What are the thoughts in
>>> >> the community with respect to
>>> what should be
>>> >> included in an alpha release as
>>> >> well as what the time frame
>>> should be for a
>>> >> release. If we can come up with
>>> >> a target date as well as
>>> specific 2.0 features
>>> >> we want to target for
>>> >> inclusion, that should help in
>>> prioritizing
>>> >> the remaining work.
>>> >> From my end, I'd love to see a
>>> working
>>> >> runtime in some form by the end
>>> >> of August if that's reasonable.
>>> As for
>>> >> content, that is definitely more of
>>> >> an open question. Here is my top
>>> list of what
>>> >> I would like to see be at
>>> >> least partially functional for
>>> an alpha release.
>>> >> -backwards compatibility with
>>> JSF 1.x apps
>>> >> -base support for facelets and
>>> composite
>>> >> components
>>> >> -AJAX support (should hopefully
>>> be in pretty
>>> >> good shape here thanks to
>>> >> Ganesh and team)
>>> >> -System event support
>>> >> -Partial view traversal
>>> >>
>>> >> Thoughts/concerns/objections?
>>> >>
>>> >> -Mike
>>> >>
>>> >> None from my side not sure how far
>>> Ganesh is with
>>> >> his ajax tag!
>>> >> The scripts already are in pretty
>>> good shape and
>>> >> functionalitywise well
>>> >> ahead of the RI ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >> As for partial Tree traversal minor
>>> sidequestion?
>>> >> Has anyone started to
>>> >> work on this, because I have started
>>> to implement
>>> >> the partial visit context
>>> >> (I have to recheck the jira for
>>> this, because I
>>> >> opened an issue for this
>>> >> under partial render response issue
>>> 2116/2241)!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241
>>> >>
>>> >> I will commit my code around
>>> tomorrow, it is
>>> >> basically done
>>> >> but needs some testing!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Werner
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>>
>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards
Alexander Bell
J4Fry OpenSource Community
Internet: http://www.j4fry.org
E-Mail: Alexander.Bell@j4fry.org
Webprofil: http://www.j4fry.org/alexanderbell.shtml
Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by Leonardo Uribe <lu...@gmail.com>.
2009/6/18 Ganesh <ga...@j4fry.org>
> Hi,
>
> Would be great to have a basic page getting through, so new tags and
> partial stuff can be based upon it. Has anyone tried?
>
> Implementation of f:ajax is based on client behaviour stuff. Have you
> already started implementation (just to avoid duplicating it)?
>
Not yet. Right now I'm just reading the spec and the latest myfaces core
code, trying to define pending tasks and what it is better to do at this
time. Feel free to start working on it. I'll do some other tasks.
regards
Leonardo Uribe
>
> Best regards,
> Ganesh
>
> Leonardo Uribe schrieb:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Just as a brief review, this is an updated list about the state of myfaces
>> core 2.0.0 branch:
>>
>> Pending tasks
>>
>> - Facelets PDL
>> - Client behavior API (depends from facelets and composite component
>> stuff)
>> - Error handling API (and run through existing classes to make sure the
>> new exception specification is enforced)
>> - Partial view API
>> - Partial State Saving
>> - Add Flash scope
>> - New tags (mostly linked to Facelets)
>> - Unit tests (conversion shale -> myfaces code)
>>
>> Done tasks (some parts maybe requires testing or minor updates)
>>
>> - Resource API
>> - Annotation support
>> - h:outputScript and h:outputStyleSheet renderer
>> - Config ordering
>> - JavaScript API
>> - Tree visiting API
>> - SystemEvent API
>> - New validators (Bean and regex mainly)
>> - Utility methods (ExternalContext mainly) (requires testing)
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Leonardo Uribe
>>
>> 2009/6/9 Leonardo Uribe <lu4242@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Good to hear that facelets part will be committed soon. I hope to
>> start working on javax.faces.behavior api and continue contribute
>> on other parts of myfaces core 2.0 (for example implement partial
>> state saving) as soon as tomahawk be released (planned on next week).
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Leonardo Uribe
>>
>> 2009/6/9 Simon Lessard <simon.lessard.3@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>
>> We use the Facelets codebase, we just have to rename the
>> package (already done), use the HandlerDelegate ... thing ...
>> and implement the Facelets VDL. Those are not part of
>> "standard" Facelets with existing ASL 2.0 code.
>>
>>
>> ~ Simon
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Matthias Wessendorf
>> <matzew@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Ganesh<ganesh@j4fry.org
>> <ma...@j4fry.org>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Facelets are apache 2.0 licensed,
>>
>> correct
>>
>> > why do we reinvent them?
>>
>> they added stuff for JSF 2.0
>>
>> e.g. <composite:interface> etc
>> (but didn't put it into the Apache licensed version)
>>
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Ganesh
>> >
>> > Simon Lessard schrieb:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> On my side I'll try to work and finish Facelets part
>> within 2 weeks, fater
>> >> than that is impossible for me atm.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> ~ Simon
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Werner Punz
>> <werner.punz@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>> >> <mailto:werner.punz@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:
>> >>
>> >> regarding tree visitor, this may help:
>> >>
>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1368
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for the link, I will get it and compare it to
>> what I have...
>> >> I assume there wont be too much which I still can
>> integrated in
>> >> the PartialVisitContext since I am rather optimized
>> already and
>> >> bound by the spec!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Werner
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -Matthias
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Werner
>> >> Punz<werner.punz@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>
>> <mailto:werner.punz@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Michael Concini schrieb:
>> >>
>> >> Wasn't there a plan to have some of the
>> partial tree
>> >> traversal work done
>> >> as part of the Google Summer of Code? I
>> seem to
>> >> recall some discussion
>> >> around this awhile back (don't have time
>> to dig
>> >> through the mailing list
>> >> archives right now to check). Does
>> anybody remember
>> >> what the plan was with
>> >> Google SoC?
>> >>
>> >> Interesting question, but I assume I only
>> have a small
>> >> subset of the needed
>> >> functionality implemented, the one we need
>> for PPR so,
>> >> I will commit my tomorrow as soon as I have
>> tested it,
>> >> whoever wants to do
>> >> something in GSOC can pick it up and refine
>> it. But have
>> >> in mind, my work
>> >> currently only coveres the area of providing a
>> >> PartialVisitContext so that I
>> >> have a complete state for PPR in this area!
>> >> If someone comes with a better solution I
>> dont have any
>> >> problem dropping the
>> >> code again ;-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Werner
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Werner Punz wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Michael Concini schrieb:
>> >>
>> >> All,
>> >>
>> >> I thought it might be a good
>> time to raise the
>> >> issue of solidifying a
>> >> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha
>> release now
>> >> that we've had a little time to
>> >> work with the release candidate
>> draft of the
>> >> spec. What are the thoughts in
>> >> the community with respect to
>> what should be
>> >> included in an alpha release as
>> >> well as what the time frame
>> should be for a
>> >> release. If we can come up with
>> >> a target date as well as
>> specific 2.0 features
>> >> we want to target for
>> >> inclusion, that should help in
>> prioritizing
>> >> the remaining work.
>> >> From my end, I'd love to see a
>> working
>> >> runtime in some form by the end
>> >> of August if that's reasonable.
>> As for
>> >> content, that is definitely more of
>> >> an open question. Here is my top
>> list of what
>> >> I would like to see be at
>> >> least partially functional for
>> an alpha release.
>> >> -backwards compatibility with
>> JSF 1.x apps
>> >> -base support for facelets and
>> composite
>> >> components
>> >> -AJAX support (should hopefully
>> be in pretty
>> >> good shape here thanks to
>> >> Ganesh and team)
>> >> -System event support
>> >> -Partial view traversal
>> >>
>> >> Thoughts/concerns/objections?
>> >>
>> >> -Mike
>> >>
>> >> None from my side not sure how far
>> Ganesh is with
>> >> his ajax tag!
>> >> The scripts already are in pretty
>> good shape and
>> >> functionalitywise well
>> >> ahead of the RI ;-)
>> >>
>> >> As for partial Tree traversal minor
>> sidequestion?
>> >> Has anyone started to
>> >> work on this, because I have started
>> to implement
>> >> the partial visit context
>> >> (I have to recheck the jira for
>> this, because I
>> >> opened an issue for this
>> >> under partial render response issue
>> 2116/2241)!
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241
>> >>
>> >> I will commit my code around
>> tomorrow, it is
>> >> basically done
>> >> but needs some testing!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Werner
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>
>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by Ganesh <ga...@j4fry.org>.
Hi,
Would be great to have a basic page getting through, so new tags and
partial stuff can be based upon it. Has anyone tried?
Implementation of f:ajax is based on client behaviour stuff. Have you
already started implementation (just to avoid duplicating it)?
Best regards,
Ganesh
Leonardo Uribe schrieb:
> Hi
>
> Just as a brief review, this is an updated list about the state of
> myfaces core 2.0.0 branch:
>
> Pending tasks
>
> - Facelets PDL
> - Client behavior API (depends from facelets and composite component
> stuff)
> - Error handling API (and run through existing classes to make sure
> the new exception specification is enforced)
> - Partial view API
> - Partial State Saving
> - Add Flash scope
> - New tags (mostly linked to Facelets)
> - Unit tests (conversion shale -> myfaces code)
>
> Done tasks (some parts maybe requires testing or minor updates)
>
> - Resource API
> - Annotation support
> - h:outputScript and h:outputStyleSheet renderer
> - Config ordering
> - JavaScript API
> - Tree visiting API
> - SystemEvent API
> - New validators (Bean and regex mainly)
> - Utility methods (ExternalContext mainly) (requires testing)
>
> regards
>
> Leonardo Uribe
>
> 2009/6/9 Leonardo Uribe <lu4242@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
>
> Hi
>
> Good to hear that facelets part will be committed soon. I hope to
> start working on javax.faces.behavior api and continue contribute
> on other parts of myfaces core 2.0 (for example implement partial
> state saving) as soon as tomahawk be released (planned on next week).
>
> regards
>
> Leonardo Uribe
>
> 2009/6/9 Simon Lessard <simon.lessard.3@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>
> We use the Facelets codebase, we just have to rename the
> package (already done), use the HandlerDelegate ... thing ...
> and implement the Facelets VDL. Those are not part of
> "standard" Facelets with existing ASL 2.0 code.
>
>
> ~ Simon
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Matthias Wessendorf
> <matzew@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Ganesh<ganesh@j4fry.org
> <ma...@j4fry.org>> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Facelets are apache 2.0 licensed,
>
> correct
>
> > why do we reinvent them?
>
> they added stuff for JSF 2.0
>
> e.g. <composite:interface> etc
> (but didn't put it into the Apache licensed version)
>
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Ganesh
> >
> > Simon Lessard schrieb:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On my side I'll try to work and finish Facelets part
> within 2 weeks, fater
> >> than that is impossible for me atm.
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> ~ Simon
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Werner Punz
> <werner.punz@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
> >> <mailto:werner.punz@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:
> >>
> >> regarding tree visitor, this may help:
> >>
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1368
> >>
> >> Thanks for the link, I will get it and compare it to
> what I have...
> >> I assume there wont be too much which I still can
> integrated in
> >> the PartialVisitContext since I am rather optimized
> already and
> >> bound by the spec!
> >>
> >>
> >> Werner
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Matthias
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Werner
> >> Punz<werner.punz@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>
> <mailto:werner.punz@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Michael Concini schrieb:
> >>
> >> Wasn't there a plan to have some of the
> partial tree
> >> traversal work done
> >> as part of the Google Summer of Code? I
> seem to
> >> recall some discussion
> >> around this awhile back (don't have time
> to dig
> >> through the mailing list
> >> archives right now to check). Does
> anybody remember
> >> what the plan was with
> >> Google SoC?
> >>
> >> Interesting question, but I assume I only
> have a small
> >> subset of the needed
> >> functionality implemented, the one we need
> for PPR so,
> >> I will commit my tomorrow as soon as I have
> tested it,
> >> whoever wants to do
> >> something in GSOC can pick it up and refine
> it. But have
> >> in mind, my work
> >> currently only coveres the area of providing a
> >> PartialVisitContext so that I
> >> have a complete state for PPR in this area!
> >> If someone comes with a better solution I
> dont have any
> >> problem dropping the
> >> code again ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >> Werner
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Werner Punz wrote:
> >>
> >> Michael Concini schrieb:
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> I thought it might be a good
> time to raise the
> >> issue of solidifying a
> >> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha
> release now
> >> that we've had a little time to
> >> work with the release candidate
> draft of the
> >> spec. What are the thoughts in
> >> the community with respect to
> what should be
> >> included in an alpha release as
> >> well as what the time frame
> should be for a
> >> release. If we can come up with
> >> a target date as well as
> specific 2.0 features
> >> we want to target for
> >> inclusion, that should help in
> prioritizing
> >> the remaining work.
> >> From my end, I'd love to see a
> working
> >> runtime in some form by the end
> >> of August if that's reasonable.
> As for
> >> content, that is definitely more of
> >> an open question. Here is my top
> list of what
> >> I would like to see be at
> >> least partially functional for
> an alpha release.
> >> -backwards compatibility with
> JSF 1.x apps
> >> -base support for facelets and
> composite
> >> components
> >> -AJAX support (should hopefully
> be in pretty
> >> good shape here thanks to
> >> Ganesh and team)
> >> -System event support
> >> -Partial view traversal
> >>
> >> Thoughts/concerns/objections?
> >>
> >> -Mike
> >>
> >> None from my side not sure how far
> Ganesh is with
> >> his ajax tag!
> >> The scripts already are in pretty
> good shape and
> >> functionalitywise well
> >> ahead of the RI ;-)
> >>
> >> As for partial Tree traversal minor
> sidequestion?
> >> Has anyone started to
> >> work on this, because I have started
> to implement
> >> the partial visit context
> >> (I have to recheck the jira for
> this, because I
> >> opened an issue for this
> >> under partial render response issue
> 2116/2241)!
> >>
> >>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241
> >>
> >> I will commit my code around
> tomorrow, it is
> >> basically done
> >> but needs some testing!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Werner
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>
>
>
>
Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by Leonardo Uribe <lu...@gmail.com>.
Hi Werner, Alexander
It seems the better right now is start working on partial state saving
feature. Some parts of this issue depends from facelets code, but other we
can do it using unit testing, so I'll take a look at Werner's work.
I'm still not started the behavior stuff, because for test this feature it
is better to wait facelets related code to be committed. My personal plan
right now is contribute with partial state saving, flash scope and then
behavior api.
regards
Leonardo Uribe
2009/6/19 Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com>
> Leonardo Uribe schrieb:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> 2009/6/18 Werner Punz <werner.punz@gmail.com <mailto:
>> werner.punz@gmail.com>>
>>
>> Component API still has one unimplemented method in UIComponent (I
>> am working on it as we speak, I will probably have it finished next
>> week! -
>> you probably cann add the missing part to partial state saving though!)
>>
>>
>> I did some work related to that issue. I can do this point, so you can
>> focus on javascript part and partial view code,(only if you want).
>>
>
> Hia Lenonardo, I committed my _DeltaStateHelper code, so that you can take
> over. You probably have to do some adjustments to the serialisation and
> deserialisation code, it currently does two dimensional arrays (for the
> embedded maps and lists), you might make that a one dimensional array
> maybe...
>
> Maybe also a serialisation strategy class might be a better pattern here,
> anyway, it should work and a jsf less unit test is in place which tests the
> parts which could be isolated from jsf!
>
> This means I am officially now again away from this part and wont interfere
> any longer.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Werner
>
>
Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com>.
Leonardo Uribe schrieb:
> Hi
>
> 2009/6/18 Werner Punz <werner.punz@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
>
> Component API still has one unimplemented method in UIComponent (I
> am working on it as we speak, I will probably have it finished next
> week! -
> you probably cann add the missing part to partial state saving though!)
>
>
> I did some work related to that issue. I can do this point, so you can
> focus on javascript part and partial view code,(only if you want).
Hia Lenonardo, I committed my _DeltaStateHelper code, so that you can
take over. You probably have to do some adjustments to the serialisation
and deserialisation code, it currently does two dimensional arrays (for
the embedded maps and lists), you might make that a one dimensional
array maybe...
Maybe also a serialisation strategy class might be a better pattern
here, anyway, it should work and a jsf less unit test is in place which
tests the parts which could be isolated from jsf!
This means I am officially now again away from this part and wont
interfere any longer.
Cheers
Werner
Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com>.
Leonardo Uribe schrieb:
> Hi
>
> 2009/6/18 Werner Punz <werner.punz@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
>
> Component API still has one unimplemented method in UIComponent (I
> am working on it as we speak, I will probably have it finished next
> week! -
> you probably cann add the missing part to partial state saving though!)
>
>
> I did some work related to that issue. I can do this point, so you can
> focus on javascript part and partial view code,(only if you want).
>
Hia I am almost done with the _DeltaStateHelper which is needed
for the missing method, once I have committed it you can take over
the saveState and restoreState might need some changes minor for the
partial/delta state saving implementation.
I will commit it later today, so you then can take over and implement
the partial state saving.
Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by Leonardo Uribe <lu...@gmail.com>.
Hi
2009/6/18 Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com>
> Component API still has one unimplemented method in UIComponent (I am
> working on it as we speak, I will probably have it finished next week! -
> you probably cann add the missing part to partial state saving though!)
>
I did some work related to that issue. I can do this point, so you can focus
on javascript part and partial view code,(only if you want).
regards
Leonardo Uribe
>
> Werner
>
>
> Leonardo Uribe schrieb:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Just as a brief review, this is an updated list about the state of myfaces
>> core 2.0.0 branch:
>>
>> Pending tasks
>>
>> - Facelets PDL
>> - Client behavior API (depends from facelets and composite component
>> stuff)
>> - Error handling API (and run through existing classes to make sure the
>> new exception specification is enforced)
>> - Partial view API
>> - Partial State Saving
>> - Add Flash scope
>> - New tags (mostly linked to Facelets)
>> - Unit tests (conversion shale -> myfaces code)
>>
>> Done tasks (some parts maybe requires testing or minor updates)
>>
>> - Resource API
>> - Annotation support
>> - h:outputScript and h:outputStyleSheet renderer
>> - Config ordering
>> - JavaScript API
>> - Tree visiting API
>> - SystemEvent API
>> - New validators (Bean and regex mainly)
>> - Utility methods (ExternalContext mainly) (requires testing)
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Leonardo Uribe
>>
>> 2009/6/9 Leonardo Uribe <lu4242@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Good to hear that facelets part will be committed soon. I hope to
>> start working on javax.faces.behavior api and continue contribute on
>> other parts of myfaces core 2.0 (for example implement partial state
>> saving) as soon as tomahawk be released (planned on next week).
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Leonardo Uribe
>>
>> 2009/6/9 Simon Lessard <simon.lessard.3@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>
>> We use the Facelets codebase, we just have to rename the package
>> (already done), use the HandlerDelegate ... thing ... and
>> implement the Facelets VDL. Those are not part of "standard"
>> Facelets with existing ASL 2.0 code.
>>
>>
>> ~ Simon
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Matthias Wessendorf
>> <matzew@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Ganesh<ganesh@j4fry.org
>> <ma...@j4fry.org>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Facelets are apache 2.0 licensed,
>>
>> correct
>>
>> > why do we reinvent them?
>>
>> they added stuff for JSF 2.0
>>
>> e.g. <composite:interface> etc
>> (but didn't put it into the Apache licensed version)
>>
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Ganesh
>> >
>> > Simon Lessard schrieb:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> On my side I'll try to work and finish Facelets part
>> within 2 weeks, fater
>> >> than that is impossible for me atm.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> ~ Simon
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Werner Punz
>> <werner.punz@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>> >> <mailto:werner.punz@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:
>> >>
>> >> regarding tree visitor, this may help:
>> >>
>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1368
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for the link, I will get it and compare it to
>> what I have...
>> >> I assume there wont be too much which I still can
>> integrated in
>> >> the PartialVisitContext since I am rather optimized
>> already and
>> >> bound by the spec!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Werner
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -Matthias
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Werner
>> >> Punz<werner.punz@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com> <mailto:werner.punz@gmail.com
>>
>> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Michael Concini schrieb:
>> >>
>> >> Wasn't there a plan to have some of the
>> partial tree
>> >> traversal work done
>> >> as part of the Google Summer of Code? I
>> seem to
>> >> recall some discussion
>> >> around this awhile back (don't have time
>> to dig
>> >> through the mailing list
>> >> archives right now to check). Does
>> anybody remember
>> >> what the plan was with
>> >> Google SoC?
>> >>
>> >> Interesting question, but I assume I only
>> have a small
>> >> subset of the needed
>> >> functionality implemented, the one we need
>> for PPR so,
>> >> I will commit my tomorrow as soon as I have
>> tested it,
>> >> whoever wants to do
>> >> something in GSOC can pick it up and refine
>> it. But have
>> >> in mind, my work
>> >> currently only coveres the area of providing a
>> >> PartialVisitContext so that I
>> >> have a complete state for PPR in this area!
>> >> If someone comes with a better solution I
>> dont have any
>> >> problem dropping the
>> >> code again ;-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Werner
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Werner Punz wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Michael Concini schrieb:
>> >>
>> >> All,
>> >>
>> >> I thought it might be a good time
>> to raise the
>> >> issue of solidifying a
>> >> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha
>> release now
>> >> that we've had a little time to
>> >> work with the release candidate
>> draft of the
>> >> spec. What are the thoughts in
>> >> the community with respect to
>> what should be
>> >> included in an alpha release as
>> >> well as what the time frame
>> should be for a
>> >> release. If we can come up with
>> >> a target date as well as specific
>> 2.0 features
>> >> we want to target for
>> >> inclusion, that should help in
>> prioritizing
>> >> the remaining work.
>> >> From my end, I'd love to see a
>> working
>> >> runtime in some form by the end
>> >> of August if that's reasonable.
>> As for
>> >> content, that is definitely more of
>> >> an open question. Here is my top
>> list of what
>> >> I would like to see be at
>> >> least partially functional for an
>> alpha release.
>> >> -backwards compatibility with JSF
>> 1.x apps
>> >> -base support for facelets and
>> composite
>> >> components
>> >> -AJAX support (should hopefully
>> be in pretty
>> >> good shape here thanks to
>> >> Ganesh and team)
>> >> -System event support
>> >> -Partial view traversal
>> >>
>> >> Thoughts/concerns/objections?
>> >>
>> >> -Mike
>> >>
>> >> None from my side not sure how far
>> Ganesh is with
>> >> his ajax tag!
>> >> The scripts already are in pretty
>> good shape and
>> >> functionalitywise well
>> >> ahead of the RI ;-)
>> >>
>> >> As for partial Tree traversal minor
>> sidequestion?
>> >> Has anyone started to
>> >> work on this, because I have started
>> to implement
>> >> the partial visit context
>> >> (I have to recheck the jira for this,
>> because I
>> >> opened an issue for this
>> >> under partial render response issue
>> 2116/2241)!
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241
>> >>
>> >> I will commit my code around
>> tomorrow, it is
>> >> basically done
>> >> but needs some testing!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Werner
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>
>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com>.
Component API still has one unimplemented method in UIComponent (I am
working on it as we speak, I will probably have it finished next week! -
you probably cann add the missing part to partial state saving though!)
Werner
Leonardo Uribe schrieb:
> Hi
>
> Just as a brief review, this is an updated list about the state of
> myfaces core 2.0.0 branch:
>
> Pending tasks
>
> - Facelets PDL
> - Client behavior API (depends from facelets and composite component stuff)
> - Error handling API (and run through existing classes to make sure the
> new exception specification is enforced)
> - Partial view API
> - Partial State Saving
> - Add Flash scope
> - New tags (mostly linked to Facelets)
> - Unit tests (conversion shale -> myfaces code)
>
> Done tasks (some parts maybe requires testing or minor updates)
>
> - Resource API
> - Annotation support
> - h:outputScript and h:outputStyleSheet renderer
> - Config ordering
> - JavaScript API
> - Tree visiting API
> - SystemEvent API
> - New validators (Bean and regex mainly)
> - Utility methods (ExternalContext mainly) (requires testing)
>
> regards
>
> Leonardo Uribe
>
> 2009/6/9 Leonardo Uribe <lu4242@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
>
> Hi
>
> Good to hear that facelets part will be committed soon. I hope to
> start working on javax.faces.behavior api and continue contribute on
> other parts of myfaces core 2.0 (for example implement partial state
> saving) as soon as tomahawk be released (planned on next week).
>
> regards
>
> Leonardo Uribe
>
> 2009/6/9 Simon Lessard <simon.lessard.3@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>
> We use the Facelets codebase, we just have to rename the package
> (already done), use the HandlerDelegate ... thing ... and
> implement the Facelets VDL. Those are not part of "standard"
> Facelets with existing ASL 2.0 code.
>
>
> ~ Simon
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Matthias Wessendorf
> <matzew@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Ganesh<ganesh@j4fry.org
> <ma...@j4fry.org>> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Facelets are apache 2.0 licensed,
>
> correct
>
> > why do we reinvent them?
>
> they added stuff for JSF 2.0
>
> e.g. <composite:interface> etc
> (but didn't put it into the Apache licensed version)
>
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Ganesh
> >
> > Simon Lessard schrieb:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On my side I'll try to work and finish Facelets part
> within 2 weeks, fater
> >> than that is impossible for me atm.
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> ~ Simon
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Werner Punz
> <werner.punz@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
> >> <mailto:werner.punz@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:
> >>
> >> regarding tree visitor, this may help:
> >>
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1368
> >>
> >> Thanks for the link, I will get it and compare it to
> what I have...
> >> I assume there wont be too much which I still can
> integrated in
> >> the PartialVisitContext since I am rather optimized
> already and
> >> bound by the spec!
> >>
> >>
> >> Werner
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Matthias
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Werner
> >> Punz<werner.punz@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com> <mailto:werner.punz@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Michael Concini schrieb:
> >>
> >> Wasn't there a plan to have some of the
> partial tree
> >> traversal work done
> >> as part of the Google Summer of Code? I
> seem to
> >> recall some discussion
> >> around this awhile back (don't have time
> to dig
> >> through the mailing list
> >> archives right now to check). Does
> anybody remember
> >> what the plan was with
> >> Google SoC?
> >>
> >> Interesting question, but I assume I only
> have a small
> >> subset of the needed
> >> functionality implemented, the one we need
> for PPR so,
> >> I will commit my tomorrow as soon as I have
> tested it,
> >> whoever wants to do
> >> something in GSOC can pick it up and refine
> it. But have
> >> in mind, my work
> >> currently only coveres the area of providing a
> >> PartialVisitContext so that I
> >> have a complete state for PPR in this area!
> >> If someone comes with a better solution I
> dont have any
> >> problem dropping the
> >> code again ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >> Werner
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Werner Punz wrote:
> >>
> >> Michael Concini schrieb:
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> I thought it might be a good time
> to raise the
> >> issue of solidifying a
> >> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha
> release now
> >> that we've had a little time to
> >> work with the release candidate
> draft of the
> >> spec. What are the thoughts in
> >> the community with respect to
> what should be
> >> included in an alpha release as
> >> well as what the time frame
> should be for a
> >> release. If we can come up with
> >> a target date as well as specific
> 2.0 features
> >> we want to target for
> >> inclusion, that should help in
> prioritizing
> >> the remaining work.
> >> From my end, I'd love to see a
> working
> >> runtime in some form by the end
> >> of August if that's reasonable.
> As for
> >> content, that is definitely more of
> >> an open question. Here is my top
> list of what
> >> I would like to see be at
> >> least partially functional for an
> alpha release.
> >> -backwards compatibility with JSF
> 1.x apps
> >> -base support for facelets and
> composite
> >> components
> >> -AJAX support (should hopefully
> be in pretty
> >> good shape here thanks to
> >> Ganesh and team)
> >> -System event support
> >> -Partial view traversal
> >>
> >> Thoughts/concerns/objections?
> >>
> >> -Mike
> >>
> >> None from my side not sure how far
> Ganesh is with
> >> his ajax tag!
> >> The scripts already are in pretty
> good shape and
> >> functionalitywise well
> >> ahead of the RI ;-)
> >>
> >> As for partial Tree traversal minor
> sidequestion?
> >> Has anyone started to
> >> work on this, because I have started
> to implement
> >> the partial visit context
> >> (I have to recheck the jira for this,
> because I
> >> opened an issue for this
> >> under partial render response issue
> 2116/2241)!
> >>
> >>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241
> >>
> >> I will commit my code around
> tomorrow, it is
> >> basically done
> >> but needs some testing!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Werner
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>
>
>
>
Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by Leonardo Uribe <lu...@gmail.com>.
Hi
Just as a brief review, this is an updated list about the state of myfaces
core 2.0.0 branch:
Pending tasks
- Facelets PDL
- Client behavior API (depends from facelets and composite component stuff)
- Error handling API (and run through existing classes to make sure the new
exception specification is enforced)
- Partial view API
- Partial State Saving
- Add Flash scope
- New tags (mostly linked to Facelets)
- Unit tests (conversion shale -> myfaces code)
Done tasks (some parts maybe requires testing or minor updates)
- Resource API
- Annotation support
- h:outputScript and h:outputStyleSheet renderer
- Config ordering
- JavaScript API
- Tree visiting API
- SystemEvent API
- New validators (Bean and regex mainly)
- Utility methods (ExternalContext mainly) (requires testing)
regards
Leonardo Uribe
2009/6/9 Leonardo Uribe <lu...@gmail.com>
> Hi
>
> Good to hear that facelets part will be committed soon. I hope to start
> working on javax.faces.behavior api and continue contribute on other parts
> of myfaces core 2.0 (for example implement partial state saving) as soon as
> tomahawk be released (planned on next week).
>
> regards
>
> Leonardo Uribe
>
> 2009/6/9 Simon Lessard <si...@gmail.com>
>
> We use the Facelets codebase, we just have to rename the package (already
>> done), use the HandlerDelegate ... thing ... and implement the Facelets VDL.
>> Those are not part of "standard" Facelets with existing ASL 2.0 code.
>>
>>
>> ~ Simon
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Ganesh<ga...@j4fry.org> wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > Facelets are apache 2.0 licensed,
>>>
>>> correct
>>>
>>> > why do we reinvent them?
>>>
>>> they added stuff for JSF 2.0
>>>
>>> e.g. <composite:interface> etc
>>> (but didn't put it into the Apache licensed version)
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Best regards,
>>> > Ganesh
>>> >
>>> > Simon Lessard schrieb:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> On my side I'll try to work and finish Facelets part within 2 weeks,
>>> fater
>>> >> than that is impossible for me atm.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >>
>>> >> ~ Simon
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Werner Punz <werner.punz@gmail.com
>>> >> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:
>>> >>
>>> >> regarding tree visitor, this may help:
>>> >>
>>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1368
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for the link, I will get it and compare it to what I have...
>>> >> I assume there wont be too much which I still can integrated in
>>> >> the PartialVisitContext since I am rather optimized already and
>>> >> bound by the spec!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Werner
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> -Matthias
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Werner
>>> >> Punz<werner.punz@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Michael Concini schrieb:
>>> >>
>>> >> Wasn't there a plan to have some of the partial tree
>>> >> traversal work done
>>> >> as part of the Google Summer of Code? I seem to
>>> >> recall some discussion
>>> >> around this awhile back (don't have time to dig
>>> >> through the mailing list
>>> >> archives right now to check). Does anybody remember
>>> >> what the plan was with
>>> >> Google SoC?
>>> >>
>>> >> Interesting question, but I assume I only have a small
>>> >> subset of the needed
>>> >> functionality implemented, the one we need for PPR so,
>>> >> I will commit my tomorrow as soon as I have tested it,
>>> >> whoever wants to do
>>> >> something in GSOC can pick it up and refine it. But have
>>> >> in mind, my work
>>> >> currently only coveres the area of providing a
>>> >> PartialVisitContext so that I
>>> >> have a complete state for PPR in this area!
>>> >> If someone comes with a better solution I dont have any
>>> >> problem dropping the
>>> >> code again ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Werner
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Werner Punz wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Michael Concini schrieb:
>>> >>
>>> >> All,
>>> >>
>>> >> I thought it might be a good time to raise the
>>> >> issue of solidifying a
>>> >> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now
>>> >> that we've had a little time to
>>> >> work with the release candidate draft of the
>>> >> spec. What are the thoughts in
>>> >> the community with respect to what should be
>>> >> included in an alpha release as
>>> >> well as what the time frame should be for a
>>> >> release. If we can come up with
>>> >> a target date as well as specific 2.0 features
>>> >> we want to target for
>>> >> inclusion, that should help in prioritizing
>>> >> the remaining work.
>>> >> From my end, I'd love to see a working
>>> >> runtime in some form by the end
>>> >> of August if that's reasonable. As for
>>> >> content, that is definitely more of
>>> >> an open question. Here is my top list of what
>>> >> I would like to see be at
>>> >> least partially functional for an alpha
>>> release.
>>> >> -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps
>>> >> -base support for facelets and composite
>>> >> components
>>> >> -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty
>>> >> good shape here thanks to
>>> >> Ganesh and team)
>>> >> -System event support
>>> >> -Partial view traversal
>>> >>
>>> >> Thoughts/concerns/objections?
>>> >>
>>> >> -Mike
>>> >>
>>> >> None from my side not sure how far Ganesh is with
>>> >> his ajax tag!
>>> >> The scripts already are in pretty good shape and
>>> >> functionalitywise well
>>> >> ahead of the RI ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >> As for partial Tree traversal minor sidequestion?
>>> >> Has anyone started to
>>> >> work on this, because I have started to implement
>>> >> the partial visit context
>>> >> (I have to recheck the jira for this, because I
>>> >> opened an issue for this
>>> >> under partial render response issue 2116/2241)!
>>> >>
>>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241
>>> >>
>>> >> I will commit my code around tomorrow, it is
>>> >> basically done
>>> >> but needs some testing!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Werner
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>>
>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by Leonardo Uribe <lu...@gmail.com>.
Hi
Good to hear that facelets part will be committed soon. I hope to start
working on javax.faces.behavior api and continue contribute on other parts
of myfaces core 2.0 (for example implement partial state saving) as soon as
tomahawk be released (planned on next week).
regards
Leonardo Uribe
2009/6/9 Simon Lessard <si...@gmail.com>
> We use the Facelets codebase, we just have to rename the package (already
> done), use the HandlerDelegate ... thing ... and implement the Facelets VDL.
> Those are not part of "standard" Facelets with existing ASL 2.0 code.
>
>
> ~ Simon
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Ganesh<ga...@j4fry.org> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Facelets are apache 2.0 licensed,
>>
>> correct
>>
>> > why do we reinvent them?
>>
>> they added stuff for JSF 2.0
>>
>> e.g. <composite:interface> etc
>> (but didn't put it into the Apache licensed version)
>>
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Ganesh
>> >
>> > Simon Lessard schrieb:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> On my side I'll try to work and finish Facelets part within 2 weeks,
>> fater
>> >> than that is impossible for me atm.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> ~ Simon
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Werner Punz <werner.punz@gmail.com
>> >> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:
>> >>
>> >> regarding tree visitor, this may help:
>> >>
>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1368
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for the link, I will get it and compare it to what I have...
>> >> I assume there wont be too much which I still can integrated in
>> >> the PartialVisitContext since I am rather optimized already and
>> >> bound by the spec!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Werner
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -Matthias
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Werner
>> >> Punz<werner.punz@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Michael Concini schrieb:
>> >>
>> >> Wasn't there a plan to have some of the partial tree
>> >> traversal work done
>> >> as part of the Google Summer of Code? I seem to
>> >> recall some discussion
>> >> around this awhile back (don't have time to dig
>> >> through the mailing list
>> >> archives right now to check). Does anybody remember
>> >> what the plan was with
>> >> Google SoC?
>> >>
>> >> Interesting question, but I assume I only have a small
>> >> subset of the needed
>> >> functionality implemented, the one we need for PPR so,
>> >> I will commit my tomorrow as soon as I have tested it,
>> >> whoever wants to do
>> >> something in GSOC can pick it up and refine it. But have
>> >> in mind, my work
>> >> currently only coveres the area of providing a
>> >> PartialVisitContext so that I
>> >> have a complete state for PPR in this area!
>> >> If someone comes with a better solution I dont have any
>> >> problem dropping the
>> >> code again ;-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Werner
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Werner Punz wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Michael Concini schrieb:
>> >>
>> >> All,
>> >>
>> >> I thought it might be a good time to raise the
>> >> issue of solidifying a
>> >> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now
>> >> that we've had a little time to
>> >> work with the release candidate draft of the
>> >> spec. What are the thoughts in
>> >> the community with respect to what should be
>> >> included in an alpha release as
>> >> well as what the time frame should be for a
>> >> release. If we can come up with
>> >> a target date as well as specific 2.0 features
>> >> we want to target for
>> >> inclusion, that should help in prioritizing
>> >> the remaining work.
>> >> From my end, I'd love to see a working
>> >> runtime in some form by the end
>> >> of August if that's reasonable. As for
>> >> content, that is definitely more of
>> >> an open question. Here is my top list of what
>> >> I would like to see be at
>> >> least partially functional for an alpha release.
>> >> -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps
>> >> -base support for facelets and composite
>> >> components
>> >> -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty
>> >> good shape here thanks to
>> >> Ganesh and team)
>> >> -System event support
>> >> -Partial view traversal
>> >>
>> >> Thoughts/concerns/objections?
>> >>
>> >> -Mike
>> >>
>> >> None from my side not sure how far Ganesh is with
>> >> his ajax tag!
>> >> The scripts already are in pretty good shape and
>> >> functionalitywise well
>> >> ahead of the RI ;-)
>> >>
>> >> As for partial Tree traversal minor sidequestion?
>> >> Has anyone started to
>> >> work on this, because I have started to implement
>> >> the partial visit context
>> >> (I have to recheck the jira for this, because I
>> >> opened an issue for this
>> >> under partial render response issue 2116/2241)!
>> >>
>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241
>> >>
>> >> I will commit my code around tomorrow, it is
>> >> basically done
>> >> but needs some testing!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Werner
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>
>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>>
>
>
Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by Simon Lessard <si...@gmail.com>.
We use the Facelets codebase, we just have to rename the package (already
done), use the HandlerDelegate ... thing ... and implement the Facelets VDL.
Those are not part of "standard" Facelets with existing ASL 2.0 code.
~ Simon
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Ganesh<ga...@j4fry.org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Facelets are apache 2.0 licensed,
>
> correct
>
> > why do we reinvent them?
>
> they added stuff for JSF 2.0
>
> e.g. <composite:interface> etc
> (but didn't put it into the Apache licensed version)
>
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Ganesh
> >
> > Simon Lessard schrieb:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On my side I'll try to work and finish Facelets part within 2 weeks,
> fater
> >> than that is impossible for me atm.
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> ~ Simon
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Werner Punz <werner.punz@gmail.com
> >> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:
> >>
> >> regarding tree visitor, this may help:
> >>
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1368
> >>
> >> Thanks for the link, I will get it and compare it to what I have...
> >> I assume there wont be too much which I still can integrated in
> >> the PartialVisitContext since I am rather optimized already and
> >> bound by the spec!
> >>
> >>
> >> Werner
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Matthias
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Werner
> >> Punz<werner.punz@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Michael Concini schrieb:
> >>
> >> Wasn't there a plan to have some of the partial tree
> >> traversal work done
> >> as part of the Google Summer of Code? I seem to
> >> recall some discussion
> >> around this awhile back (don't have time to dig
> >> through the mailing list
> >> archives right now to check). Does anybody remember
> >> what the plan was with
> >> Google SoC?
> >>
> >> Interesting question, but I assume I only have a small
> >> subset of the needed
> >> functionality implemented, the one we need for PPR so,
> >> I will commit my tomorrow as soon as I have tested it,
> >> whoever wants to do
> >> something in GSOC can pick it up and refine it. But have
> >> in mind, my work
> >> currently only coveres the area of providing a
> >> PartialVisitContext so that I
> >> have a complete state for PPR in this area!
> >> If someone comes with a better solution I dont have any
> >> problem dropping the
> >> code again ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >> Werner
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Werner Punz wrote:
> >>
> >> Michael Concini schrieb:
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> I thought it might be a good time to raise the
> >> issue of solidifying a
> >> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now
> >> that we've had a little time to
> >> work with the release candidate draft of the
> >> spec. What are the thoughts in
> >> the community with respect to what should be
> >> included in an alpha release as
> >> well as what the time frame should be for a
> >> release. If we can come up with
> >> a target date as well as specific 2.0 features
> >> we want to target for
> >> inclusion, that should help in prioritizing
> >> the remaining work.
> >> From my end, I'd love to see a working
> >> runtime in some form by the end
> >> of August if that's reasonable. As for
> >> content, that is definitely more of
> >> an open question. Here is my top list of what
> >> I would like to see be at
> >> least partially functional for an alpha release.
> >> -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps
> >> -base support for facelets and composite
> >> components
> >> -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty
> >> good shape here thanks to
> >> Ganesh and team)
> >> -System event support
> >> -Partial view traversal
> >>
> >> Thoughts/concerns/objections?
> >>
> >> -Mike
> >>
> >> None from my side not sure how far Ganesh is with
> >> his ajax tag!
> >> The scripts already are in pretty good shape and
> >> functionalitywise well
> >> ahead of the RI ;-)
> >>
> >> As for partial Tree traversal minor sidequestion?
> >> Has anyone started to
> >> work on this, because I have started to implement
> >> the partial visit context
> >> (I have to recheck the jira for this, because I
> >> opened an issue for this
> >> under partial render response issue 2116/2241)!
> >>
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241
> >>
> >> I will commit my code around tomorrow, it is
> >> basically done
> >> but needs some testing!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Werner
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>
Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Ganesh<ga...@j4fry.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Facelets are apache 2.0 licensed,
correct
> why do we reinvent them?
they added stuff for JSF 2.0
e.g. <composite:interface> etc
(but didn't put it into the Apache licensed version)
>
> Best regards,
> Ganesh
>
> Simon Lessard schrieb:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On my side I'll try to work and finish Facelets part within 2 weeks, fater
>> than that is impossible for me atm.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> ~ Simon
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Werner Punz <werner.punz@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:
>>
>> regarding tree visitor, this may help:
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1368
>>
>> Thanks for the link, I will get it and compare it to what I have...
>> I assume there wont be too much which I still can integrated in
>> the PartialVisitContext since I am rather optimized already and
>> bound by the spec!
>>
>>
>> Werner
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Matthias
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Werner
>> Punz<werner.punz@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Michael Concini schrieb:
>>
>> Wasn't there a plan to have some of the partial tree
>> traversal work done
>> as part of the Google Summer of Code? I seem to
>> recall some discussion
>> around this awhile back (don't have time to dig
>> through the mailing list
>> archives right now to check). Does anybody remember
>> what the plan was with
>> Google SoC?
>>
>> Interesting question, but I assume I only have a small
>> subset of the needed
>> functionality implemented, the one we need for PPR so,
>> I will commit my tomorrow as soon as I have tested it,
>> whoever wants to do
>> something in GSOC can pick it up and refine it. But have
>> in mind, my work
>> currently only coveres the area of providing a
>> PartialVisitContext so that I
>> have a complete state for PPR in this area!
>> If someone comes with a better solution I dont have any
>> problem dropping the
>> code again ;-)
>>
>>
>> Werner
>>
>>
>>
>> Werner Punz wrote:
>>
>> Michael Concini schrieb:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I thought it might be a good time to raise the
>> issue of solidifying a
>> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now
>> that we've had a little time to
>> work with the release candidate draft of the
>> spec. What are the thoughts in
>> the community with respect to what should be
>> included in an alpha release as
>> well as what the time frame should be for a
>> release. If we can come up with
>> a target date as well as specific 2.0 features
>> we want to target for
>> inclusion, that should help in prioritizing
>> the remaining work.
>> From my end, I'd love to see a working
>> runtime in some form by the end
>> of August if that's reasonable. As for
>> content, that is definitely more of
>> an open question. Here is my top list of what
>> I would like to see be at
>> least partially functional for an alpha release.
>> -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps
>> -base support for facelets and composite
>> components
>> -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty
>> good shape here thanks to
>> Ganesh and team)
>> -System event support
>> -Partial view traversal
>>
>> Thoughts/concerns/objections?
>>
>> -Mike
>>
>> None from my side not sure how far Ganesh is with
>> his ajax tag!
>> The scripts already are in pretty good shape and
>> functionalitywise well
>> ahead of the RI ;-)
>>
>> As for partial Tree traversal minor sidequestion?
>> Has anyone started to
>> work on this, because I have started to implement
>> the partial visit context
>> (I have to recheck the jira for this, because I
>> opened an issue for this
>> under partial render response issue 2116/2241)!
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241
>>
>> I will commit my code around tomorrow, it is
>> basically done
>> but needs some testing!
>>
>>
>>
>> Werner
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by Ganesh <ga...@j4fry.org>.
Hi,
Facelets are apache 2.0 licensed, why do we reinvent them?
Best regards,
Ganesh
Simon Lessard schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> On my side I'll try to work and finish Facelets part within 2 weeks,
> fater than that is impossible for me atm.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> ~ Simon
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Werner Punz <werner.punz@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:
>
> regarding tree visitor, this may help:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1368
>
> Thanks for the link, I will get it and compare it to what I have...
> I assume there wont be too much which I still can integrated in
> the PartialVisitContext since I am rather optimized already and
> bound by the spec!
>
>
> Werner
>
>
>
>
>
> -Matthias
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Werner
> Punz<werner.punz@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Michael Concini schrieb:
>
> Wasn't there a plan to have some of the partial tree
> traversal work done
> as part of the Google Summer of Code? I seem to
> recall some discussion
> around this awhile back (don't have time to dig
> through the mailing list
> archives right now to check). Does anybody remember
> what the plan was with
> Google SoC?
>
> Interesting question, but I assume I only have a small
> subset of the needed
> functionality implemented, the one we need for PPR so,
> I will commit my tomorrow as soon as I have tested it,
> whoever wants to do
> something in GSOC can pick it up and refine it. But have
> in mind, my work
> currently only coveres the area of providing a
> PartialVisitContext so that I
> have a complete state for PPR in this area!
> If someone comes with a better solution I dont have any
> problem dropping the
> code again ;-)
>
>
> Werner
>
>
>
> Werner Punz wrote:
>
> Michael Concini schrieb:
>
> All,
>
> I thought it might be a good time to raise the
> issue of solidifying a
> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now
> that we've had a little time to
> work with the release candidate draft of the
> spec. What are the thoughts in
> the community with respect to what should be
> included in an alpha release as
> well as what the time frame should be for a
> release. If we can come up with
> a target date as well as specific 2.0 features
> we want to target for
> inclusion, that should help in prioritizing
> the remaining work.
> From my end, I'd love to see a working
> runtime in some form by the end
> of August if that's reasonable. As for
> content, that is definitely more of
> an open question. Here is my top list of what
> I would like to see be at
> least partially functional for an alpha release.
> -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps
> -base support for facelets and composite
> components
> -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty
> good shape here thanks to
> Ganesh and team)
> -System event support
> -Partial view traversal
>
> Thoughts/concerns/objections?
>
> -Mike
>
> None from my side not sure how far Ganesh is with
> his ajax tag!
> The scripts already are in pretty good shape and
> functionalitywise well
> ahead of the RI ;-)
>
> As for partial Tree traversal minor sidequestion?
> Has anyone started to
> work on this, because I have started to implement
> the partial visit context
> (I have to recheck the jira for this, because I
> opened an issue for this
> under partial render response issue 2116/2241)!
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241
>
> I will commit my code around tomorrow, it is
> basically done
> but needs some testing!
>
>
>
> Werner
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by Simon Lessard <si...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On my side I'll try to work and finish Facelets part within 2 weeks, fater
than that is impossible for me atm.
Regards,
~ Simon
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:
>
>> regarding tree visitor, this may help:
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1368
>>
>> Thanks for the link, I will get it and compare it to what I have...
> I assume there wont be too much which I still can integrated in the
> PartialVisitContext since I am rather optimized already and bound by the
> spec!
>
>
> Werner
>
>
>
>
>
> -Matthias
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Werner Punz<we...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Michael Concini schrieb:
>>>
>>>> Wasn't there a plan to have some of the partial tree traversal work done
>>>> as part of the Google Summer of Code? I seem to recall some discussion
>>>> around this awhile back (don't have time to dig through the mailing list
>>>> archives right now to check). Does anybody remember what the plan was
>>>> with
>>>> Google SoC?
>>>>
>>>> Interesting question, but I assume I only have a small subset of the
>>> needed
>>> functionality implemented, the one we need for PPR so,
>>> I will commit my tomorrow as soon as I have tested it, whoever wants to
>>> do
>>> something in GSOC can pick it up and refine it. But have in mind, my work
>>> currently only coveres the area of providing a PartialVisitContext so
>>> that I
>>> have a complete state for PPR in this area!
>>> If someone comes with a better solution I dont have any problem dropping
>>> the
>>> code again ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> Werner
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Werner Punz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Michael Concini schrieb:
>>>>>
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought it might be a good time to raise the issue of solidifying a
>>>>>> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now that we've had a little
>>>>>> time to
>>>>>> work with the release candidate draft of the spec. What are the
>>>>>> thoughts in
>>>>>> the community with respect to what should be included in an alpha
>>>>>> release as
>>>>>> well as what the time frame should be for a release. If we can come
>>>>>> up with
>>>>>> a target date as well as specific 2.0 features we want to target for
>>>>>> inclusion, that should help in prioritizing the remaining work.
>>>>>> From my end, I'd love to see a working runtime in some form by the
>>>>>> end
>>>>>> of August if that's reasonable. As for content, that is definitely
>>>>>> more of
>>>>>> an open question. Here is my top list of what I would like to see be
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> least partially functional for an alpha release.
>>>>>> -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps
>>>>>> -base support for facelets and composite components
>>>>>> -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty good shape here thanks to
>>>>>> Ganesh and team)
>>>>>> -System event support
>>>>>> -Partial view traversal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts/concerns/objections?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> None from my side not sure how far Ganesh is with his ajax tag!
>>>>> The scripts already are in pretty good shape and functionalitywise well
>>>>> ahead of the RI ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> As for partial Tree traversal minor sidequestion? Has anyone started to
>>>>> work on this, because I have started to implement the partial visit
>>>>> context
>>>>> (I have to recheck the jira for this, because I opened an issue for
>>>>> this
>>>>> under partial render response issue 2116/2241)!
>>>>>
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241
>>>>>
>>>>> I will commit my code around tomorrow, it is basically done
>>>>> but needs some testing!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Werner
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com>.
Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:
> regarding tree visitor, this may help:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1368
>
Thanks for the link, I will get it and compare it to what I have...
I assume there wont be too much which I still can integrated in the
PartialVisitContext since I am rather optimized already and bound by the
spec!
Werner
> -Matthias
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Werner Punz<we...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Michael Concini schrieb:
>>> Wasn't there a plan to have some of the partial tree traversal work done
>>> as part of the Google Summer of Code? I seem to recall some discussion
>>> around this awhile back (don't have time to dig through the mailing list
>>> archives right now to check). Does anybody remember what the plan was with
>>> Google SoC?
>>>
>> Interesting question, but I assume I only have a small subset of the needed
>> functionality implemented, the one we need for PPR so,
>> I will commit my tomorrow as soon as I have tested it, whoever wants to do
>> something in GSOC can pick it up and refine it. But have in mind, my work
>> currently only coveres the area of providing a PartialVisitContext so that I
>> have a complete state for PPR in this area!
>> If someone comes with a better solution I dont have any problem dropping the
>> code again ;-)
>>
>>
>> Werner
>>
>>
>>
>>> Werner Punz wrote:
>>>> Michael Concini schrieb:
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought it might be a good time to raise the issue of solidifying a
>>>>> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now that we've had a little time to
>>>>> work with the release candidate draft of the spec. What are the thoughts in
>>>>> the community with respect to what should be included in an alpha release as
>>>>> well as what the time frame should be for a release. If we can come up with
>>>>> a target date as well as specific 2.0 features we want to target for
>>>>> inclusion, that should help in prioritizing the remaining work.
>>>>> From my end, I'd love to see a working runtime in some form by the end
>>>>> of August if that's reasonable. As for content, that is definitely more of
>>>>> an open question. Here is my top list of what I would like to see be at
>>>>> least partially functional for an alpha release.
>>>>> -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps
>>>>> -base support for facelets and composite components
>>>>> -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty good shape here thanks to
>>>>> Ganesh and team)
>>>>> -System event support
>>>>> -Partial view traversal
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts/concerns/objections?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Mike
>>>>>
>>>> None from my side not sure how far Ganesh is with his ajax tag!
>>>> The scripts already are in pretty good shape and functionalitywise well
>>>> ahead of the RI ;-)
>>>>
>>>> As for partial Tree traversal minor sidequestion? Has anyone started to
>>>> work on this, because I have started to implement the partial visit context
>>>> (I have to recheck the jira for this, because I opened an issue for this
>>>> under partial render response issue 2116/2241)!
>>>>
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241
>>>>
>>>> I will commit my code around tomorrow, it is basically done
>>>> but needs some testing!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Werner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
regarding tree visitor, this may help:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1368
-Matthias
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Werner Punz<we...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Michael Concini schrieb:
>>
>> Wasn't there a plan to have some of the partial tree traversal work done
>> as part of the Google Summer of Code? I seem to recall some discussion
>> around this awhile back (don't have time to dig through the mailing list
>> archives right now to check). Does anybody remember what the plan was with
>> Google SoC?
>>
> Interesting question, but I assume I only have a small subset of the needed
> functionality implemented, the one we need for PPR so,
> I will commit my tomorrow as soon as I have tested it, whoever wants to do
> something in GSOC can pick it up and refine it. But have in mind, my work
> currently only coveres the area of providing a PartialVisitContext so that I
> have a complete state for PPR in this area!
> If someone comes with a better solution I dont have any problem dropping the
> code again ;-)
>
>
> Werner
>
>
>
>> Werner Punz wrote:
>>>
>>> Michael Concini schrieb:
>>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> I thought it might be a good time to raise the issue of solidifying a
>>>> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now that we've had a little time to
>>>> work with the release candidate draft of the spec. What are the thoughts in
>>>> the community with respect to what should be included in an alpha release as
>>>> well as what the time frame should be for a release. If we can come up with
>>>> a target date as well as specific 2.0 features we want to target for
>>>> inclusion, that should help in prioritizing the remaining work.
>>>> From my end, I'd love to see a working runtime in some form by the end
>>>> of August if that's reasonable. As for content, that is definitely more of
>>>> an open question. Here is my top list of what I would like to see be at
>>>> least partially functional for an alpha release.
>>>> -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps
>>>> -base support for facelets and composite components
>>>> -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty good shape here thanks to
>>>> Ganesh and team)
>>>> -System event support
>>>> -Partial view traversal
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts/concerns/objections?
>>>>
>>>> -Mike
>>>>
>>> None from my side not sure how far Ganesh is with his ajax tag!
>>> The scripts already are in pretty good shape and functionalitywise well
>>> ahead of the RI ;-)
>>>
>>> As for partial Tree traversal minor sidequestion? Has anyone started to
>>> work on this, because I have started to implement the partial visit context
>>> (I have to recheck the jira for this, because I opened an issue for this
>>> under partial render response issue 2116/2241)!
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241
>>>
>>> I will commit my code around tomorrow, it is basically done
>>> but needs some testing!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Werner
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
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Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com>.
Michael Concini schrieb:
> Wasn't there a plan to have some of the partial tree traversal work done
> as part of the Google Summer of Code? I seem to recall some discussion
> around this awhile back (don't have time to dig through the mailing list
> archives right now to check). Does anybody remember what the plan was
> with Google SoC?
>
Interesting question, but I assume I only have a small subset of the
needed functionality implemented, the one we need for PPR so,
I will commit my tomorrow as soon as I have tested it, whoever wants
to do something in GSOC can pick it up and refine it. But have in mind,
my work currently only coveres the area of providing a
PartialVisitContext so that I have a complete state for PPR in this area!
If someone comes with a better solution I dont have any problem dropping
the code again ;-)
Werner
> Werner Punz wrote:
>> Michael Concini schrieb:
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I thought it might be a good time to raise the issue of solidifying a
>>> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now that we've had a little
>>> time to work with the release candidate draft of the spec. What are
>>> the thoughts in the community with respect to what should be included
>>> in an alpha release as well as what the time frame should be for a
>>> release. If we can come up with a target date as well as specific
>>> 2.0 features we want to target for inclusion, that should help in
>>> prioritizing the remaining work.
>>> From my end, I'd love to see a working runtime in some form by the
>>> end of August if that's reasonable. As for content, that is
>>> definitely more of an open question. Here is my top list of what I
>>> would like to see be at least partially functional for an alpha release.
>>> -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps
>>> -base support for facelets and composite components
>>> -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty good shape here thanks
>>> to Ganesh and team)
>>> -System event support
>>> -Partial view traversal
>>>
>>> Thoughts/concerns/objections?
>>>
>>> -Mike
>>>
>> None from my side not sure how far Ganesh is with his ajax tag!
>> The scripts already are in pretty good shape and functionalitywise
>> well ahead of the RI ;-)
>>
>> As for partial Tree traversal minor sidequestion? Has anyone started
>> to work on this, because I have started to implement the partial visit
>> context (I have to recheck the jira for this, because I opened an
>> issue for this under partial render response issue 2116/2241)!
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241
>>
>> I will commit my code around tomorrow, it is basically done
>> but needs some testing!
>>
>>
>>
>> Werner
>>
>>
>
>
Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Michael Concini<mc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wasn't there a plan to have some of the partial tree traversal work done as
> part of the Google Summer of Code? I seem to recall some discussion around
> this awhile back (don't have time to dig through the mailing list archives
> right now to check). Does anybody remember what the plan was with Google
> SoC?
I think there was some of that - however I am sure there was no student for
doing that :-) Or was there one ?
-Matthias
>
> Werner Punz wrote:
>>
>> Michael Concini schrieb:
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I thought it might be a good time to raise the issue of solidifying a
>>> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now that we've had a little time to
>>> work with the release candidate draft of the spec. What are the thoughts in
>>> the community with respect to what should be included in an alpha release as
>>> well as what the time frame should be for a release. If we can come up with
>>> a target date as well as specific 2.0 features we want to target for
>>> inclusion, that should help in prioritizing the remaining work.
>>> From my end, I'd love to see a working runtime in some form by the end
>>> of August if that's reasonable. As for content, that is definitely more of
>>> an open question. Here is my top list of what I would like to see be at
>>> least partially functional for an alpha release.
>>> -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps
>>> -base support for facelets and composite components
>>> -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty good shape here thanks to
>>> Ganesh and team)
>>> -System event support
>>> -Partial view traversal
>>>
>>> Thoughts/concerns/objections?
>>>
>>> -Mike
>>>
>> None from my side not sure how far Ganesh is with his ajax tag!
>> The scripts already are in pretty good shape and functionalitywise well
>> ahead of the RI ;-)
>>
>> As for partial Tree traversal minor sidequestion? Has anyone started to
>> work on this, because I have started to implement the partial visit context
>> (I have to recheck the jira for this, because I opened an issue for this
>> under partial render response issue 2116/2241)!
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241
>>
>> I will commit my code around tomorrow, it is basically done
>> but needs some testing!
>>
>>
>>
>> Werner
>>
>>
>
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by Michael Concini <mc...@gmail.com>.
Wasn't there a plan to have some of the partial tree traversal work done
as part of the Google Summer of Code? I seem to recall some discussion
around this awhile back (don't have time to dig through the mailing list
archives right now to check). Does anybody remember what the plan was
with Google SoC?
Werner Punz wrote:
> Michael Concini schrieb:
>> All,
>>
>> I thought it might be a good time to raise the issue of solidifying a
>> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now that we've had a little
>> time to work with the release candidate draft of the spec. What are
>> the thoughts in the community with respect to what should be included
>> in an alpha release as well as what the time frame should be for a
>> release. If we can come up with a target date as well as specific
>> 2.0 features we want to target for inclusion, that should help in
>> prioritizing the remaining work.
>> From my end, I'd love to see a working runtime in some form by the
>> end of August if that's reasonable. As for content, that is
>> definitely more of an open question. Here is my top list of what I
>> would like to see be at least partially functional for an alpha release.
>> -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps
>> -base support for facelets and composite components
>> -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty good shape here thanks
>> to Ganesh and team)
>> -System event support
>> -Partial view traversal
>>
>> Thoughts/concerns/objections?
>>
>> -Mike
>>
> None from my side not sure how far Ganesh is with his ajax tag!
> The scripts already are in pretty good shape and functionalitywise
> well ahead of the RI ;-)
>
> As for partial Tree traversal minor sidequestion? Has anyone started
> to work on this, because I have started to implement the partial visit
> context (I have to recheck the jira for this, because I opened an
> issue for this under partial render response issue 2116/2241)!
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241
>
> I will commit my code around tomorrow, it is basically done
> but needs some testing!
>
>
>
> Werner
>
>
Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
Posted by Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com>.
Michael Concini schrieb:
> All,
>
> I thought it might be a good time to raise the issue of solidifying a
> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now that we've had a little time
> to work with the release candidate draft of the spec. What are the
> thoughts in the community with respect to what should be included in an
> alpha release as well as what the time frame should be for a release.
> If we can come up with a target date as well as specific 2.0 features we
> want to target for inclusion, that should help in prioritizing the
> remaining work.
> From my end, I'd love to see a working runtime in some form by the end
> of August if that's reasonable. As for content, that is definitely more
> of an open question. Here is my top list of what I would like to see be
> at least partially functional for an alpha release.
> -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps
> -base support for facelets and composite components
> -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty good shape here thanks to
> Ganesh and team)
> -System event support
> -Partial view traversal
>
> Thoughts/concerns/objections?
>
> -Mike
>
None from my side not sure how far Ganesh is with his ajax tag!
The scripts already are in pretty good shape and functionalitywise well
ahead of the RI ;-)
As for partial Tree traversal minor sidequestion? Has anyone started to
work on this, because I have started to implement the partial visit
context (I have to recheck the jira for this, because I opened an issue
for this under partial render response issue 2116/2241)!
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241
I will commit my code around tomorrow, it is basically done
but needs some testing!
Werner