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Posted to dev@mxnet.apache.org by Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org> on 2018/12/01 15:23:21 UTC
Re: Apache Infra tickets for MXNet
Thanks for working through that with infra Marco. I think the process you
outlined is good and being able to submit tickets without mentor approval
is good for the project.
Whoever puts the process on the wiki please reply with a link.
Mike
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 11:45 PM Steffen Rochel <st...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thanks Marco. Cwiki seems a good place to document the policy.
> Steffen
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 8:06 PM Marco de Abreu
> <ma...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I have just had a nice conversation with Greg Stein, VP of Apache Infra,
> > about the topic of creating tickets against Apache Infra.
> >
> > In the past, we had the restriction that only IPMC members (speak,
> mentors)
> > were allowed to file tickets against Apache Infra. This was due past
> issues
> > where tickets have been created without previous discussions on dev@ and
> > from people who were not PPMC members, thus creating too much churn.
> >
> > During the last year, the MXNet community has shown that we are able to
> > adhere to the Apache ways. Thus the restrictions are being lifted and the
> > following policy get set in place:
> >
> > - Only PPMC members are allowed to create tickets (if you can see
> > private@mxnet.apache.org, you're good to go)
> > - Committers are not allowed to create tickets (if you have write access
> to
> > GitHub but can't see private@mxnet.apache.org, you're not a PPMC member
> > but
> > a committer)
> > - Contributors are not allowed to create tickets (if you're neither a
> PPMC
> > member, nor a committer, then you're a contributor)
> > - There always has to be a dev@ thread before a ticket can be created.
> > That
> > thread has to be linked in that said ticket.
> > - Always search for a solution yourself (self-service) before engaging
> with
> > Apache Infra.
> >
> > I'm not sure about a good place to document these guidelines. If somebody
> > has a good idea where we should write them down, please feel free to drop
> > me a link and I'll paste them in there.
> >
> > Thanks everybody for the great collaboration around Apache Infra tickets!
> > This was a prime example of a community working together.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Marco
> >
>
Re: Apache Infra tickets for MXNet
Posted by Hagay Lupesko <lu...@gmail.com>.
LGTM.
Thanks Marco for clarifying and documenting this - very helpful!
Hagay
On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 6:19 PM Marco de Abreu
<ma...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> Hello Steffen,
>
> great suggestion! I have added a section to the wiki page.
>
> Best regards,
> Marco
>
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 10:49 PM Steffen Rochel <st...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > LGTM
> > One suggestion - add a section how to handle security or other sensitive
> > and time critical issues. I assume that an email should be sent to PPMC
> to
> > private list to raise such issue and PPMC will take appropriate action.
> > Steffen
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 1:40 PM Marco de Abreu
> > <ma...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > - Resending since I sent it to the wrong list -
> > >
> > > Thank you Steffen and Michael!
> > >
> > > I have created a new page at
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Contacting+Apache+Infrastructure
> > > .
> > > I'd appreciate a review.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Marco
> > >
> > > On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 8:54 PM Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > LGTM, thanks again for taking care of this for the project
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 1:10 PM Marco de Abreu <
> > > > marco.g.abreu@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Thank you Steffen and Michael!
> > > >>
> > > >> I have created a new page at
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Contacting+Apache+Infrastructure
> > > .
> > > >> I'd appreciate a review.
> > > >>
> > > >> Best regards,
> > > >> Marco
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 4:23 PM Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Thanks for working through that with infra Marco. I think the
> > process
> > > >>> you outlined is good and being able to submit tickets without
> mentor
> > > >>> approval is good for the project.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Whoever puts the process on the wiki please reply with a link.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Mike
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 11:45 PM Steffen Rochel <
> > > steffenrochel@gmail.com>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Thanks Marco. Cwiki seems a good place to document the policy.
> > > >>>> Steffen
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 8:06 PM Marco de Abreu
> > > >>>> <ma...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> > Hello everyone,
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > I have just had a nice conversation with Greg Stein, VP of
> Apache
> > > >>>> Infra,
> > > >>>> > about the topic of creating tickets against Apache Infra.
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > In the past, we had the restriction that only IPMC members
> (speak,
> > > >>>> mentors)
> > > >>>> > were allowed to file tickets against Apache Infra. This was due
> > past
> > > >>>> issues
> > > >>>> > where tickets have been created without previous discussions on
> > dev@
> > > >>>> and
> > > >>>> > from people who were not PPMC members, thus creating too much
> > churn.
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > During the last year, the MXNet community has shown that we are
> > able
> > > >>>> to
> > > >>>> > adhere to the Apache ways. Thus the restrictions are being
> lifted
> > > and
> > > >>>> the
> > > >>>> > following policy get set in place:
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > - Only PPMC members are allowed to create tickets (if you can
> see
> > > >>>> > private@mxnet.apache.org, you're good to go)
> > > >>>> > - Committers are not allowed to create tickets (if you have
> write
> > > >>>> access to
> > > >>>> > GitHub but can't see private@mxnet.apache.org, you're not a
> PPMC
> > > >>>> member
> > > >>>> > but
> > > >>>> > a committer)
> > > >>>> > - Contributors are not allowed to create tickets (if you're
> > neither
> > > a
> > > >>>> PPMC
> > > >>>> > member, nor a committer, then you're a contributor)
> > > >>>> > - There always has to be a dev@ thread before a ticket can be
> > > >>>> created.
> > > >>>> > That
> > > >>>> > thread has to be linked in that said ticket.
> > > >>>> > - Always search for a solution yourself (self-service) before
> > > >>>> engaging with
> > > >>>> > Apache Infra.
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > I'm not sure about a good place to document these guidelines. If
> > > >>>> somebody
> > > >>>> > has a good idea where we should write them down, please feel
> free
> > to
> > > >>>> drop
> > > >>>> > me a link and I'll paste them in there.
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > Thanks everybody for the great collaboration around Apache Infra
> > > >>>> tickets!
> > > >>>> > This was a prime example of a community working together.
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > Best regards,
> > > >>>> > Marco
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
>
Re: Apache Infra tickets for MXNet
Posted by Marco de Abreu <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
Hello Steffen,
great suggestion! I have added a section to the wiki page.
Best regards,
Marco
On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 10:49 PM Steffen Rochel <st...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> LGTM
> One suggestion - add a section how to handle security or other sensitive
> and time critical issues. I assume that an email should be sent to PPMC to
> private list to raise such issue and PPMC will take appropriate action.
> Steffen
>
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 1:40 PM Marco de Abreu
> <ma...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > - Resending since I sent it to the wrong list -
> >
> > Thank you Steffen and Michael!
> >
> > I have created a new page at
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Contacting+Apache+Infrastructure
> > .
> > I'd appreciate a review.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Marco
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 8:54 PM Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > LGTM, thanks again for taking care of this for the project
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 1:10 PM Marco de Abreu <
> > > marco.g.abreu@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thank you Steffen and Michael!
> > >>
> > >> I have created a new page at
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Contacting+Apache+Infrastructure
> > .
> > >> I'd appreciate a review.
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >> Marco
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 4:23 PM Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Thanks for working through that with infra Marco. I think the
> process
> > >>> you outlined is good and being able to submit tickets without mentor
> > >>> approval is good for the project.
> > >>>
> > >>> Whoever puts the process on the wiki please reply with a link.
> > >>>
> > >>> Mike
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 11:45 PM Steffen Rochel <
> > steffenrochel@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Thanks Marco. Cwiki seems a good place to document the policy.
> > >>>> Steffen
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 8:06 PM Marco de Abreu
> > >>>> <ma...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> > Hello everyone,
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > I have just had a nice conversation with Greg Stein, VP of Apache
> > >>>> Infra,
> > >>>> > about the topic of creating tickets against Apache Infra.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > In the past, we had the restriction that only IPMC members (speak,
> > >>>> mentors)
> > >>>> > were allowed to file tickets against Apache Infra. This was due
> past
> > >>>> issues
> > >>>> > where tickets have been created without previous discussions on
> dev@
> > >>>> and
> > >>>> > from people who were not PPMC members, thus creating too much
> churn.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > During the last year, the MXNet community has shown that we are
> able
> > >>>> to
> > >>>> > adhere to the Apache ways. Thus the restrictions are being lifted
> > and
> > >>>> the
> > >>>> > following policy get set in place:
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > - Only PPMC members are allowed to create tickets (if you can see
> > >>>> > private@mxnet.apache.org, you're good to go)
> > >>>> > - Committers are not allowed to create tickets (if you have write
> > >>>> access to
> > >>>> > GitHub but can't see private@mxnet.apache.org, you're not a PPMC
> > >>>> member
> > >>>> > but
> > >>>> > a committer)
> > >>>> > - Contributors are not allowed to create tickets (if you're
> neither
> > a
> > >>>> PPMC
> > >>>> > member, nor a committer, then you're a contributor)
> > >>>> > - There always has to be a dev@ thread before a ticket can be
> > >>>> created.
> > >>>> > That
> > >>>> > thread has to be linked in that said ticket.
> > >>>> > - Always search for a solution yourself (self-service) before
> > >>>> engaging with
> > >>>> > Apache Infra.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > I'm not sure about a good place to document these guidelines. If
> > >>>> somebody
> > >>>> > has a good idea where we should write them down, please feel free
> to
> > >>>> drop
> > >>>> > me a link and I'll paste them in there.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Thanks everybody for the great collaboration around Apache Infra
> > >>>> tickets!
> > >>>> > This was a prime example of a community working together.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Best regards,
> > >>>> > Marco
> > >>>> >
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
>
Re: Apache Infra tickets for MXNet
Posted by Steffen Rochel <st...@gmail.com>.
LGTM
One suggestion - add a section how to handle security or other sensitive
and time critical issues. I assume that an email should be sent to PPMC to
private list to raise such issue and PPMC will take appropriate action.
Steffen
On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 1:40 PM Marco de Abreu
<ma...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> - Resending since I sent it to the wrong list -
>
> Thank you Steffen and Michael!
>
> I have created a new page at
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Contacting+Apache+Infrastructure
> .
> I'd appreciate a review.
>
> Best regards,
> Marco
>
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 8:54 PM Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > LGTM, thanks again for taking care of this for the project
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 1:10 PM Marco de Abreu <
> > marco.g.abreu@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Thank you Steffen and Michael!
> >>
> >> I have created a new page at
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Contacting+Apache+Infrastructure
> .
> >> I'd appreciate a review.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Marco
> >>
> >> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 4:23 PM Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks for working through that with infra Marco. I think the process
> >>> you outlined is good and being able to submit tickets without mentor
> >>> approval is good for the project.
> >>>
> >>> Whoever puts the process on the wiki please reply with a link.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 11:45 PM Steffen Rochel <
> steffenrochel@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks Marco. Cwiki seems a good place to document the policy.
> >>>> Steffen
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 8:06 PM Marco de Abreu
> >>>> <ma...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > Hello everyone,
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I have just had a nice conversation with Greg Stein, VP of Apache
> >>>> Infra,
> >>>> > about the topic of creating tickets against Apache Infra.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > In the past, we had the restriction that only IPMC members (speak,
> >>>> mentors)
> >>>> > were allowed to file tickets against Apache Infra. This was due past
> >>>> issues
> >>>> > where tickets have been created without previous discussions on dev@
> >>>> and
> >>>> > from people who were not PPMC members, thus creating too much churn.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > During the last year, the MXNet community has shown that we are able
> >>>> to
> >>>> > adhere to the Apache ways. Thus the restrictions are being lifted
> and
> >>>> the
> >>>> > following policy get set in place:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > - Only PPMC members are allowed to create tickets (if you can see
> >>>> > private@mxnet.apache.org, you're good to go)
> >>>> > - Committers are not allowed to create tickets (if you have write
> >>>> access to
> >>>> > GitHub but can't see private@mxnet.apache.org, you're not a PPMC
> >>>> member
> >>>> > but
> >>>> > a committer)
> >>>> > - Contributors are not allowed to create tickets (if you're neither
> a
> >>>> PPMC
> >>>> > member, nor a committer, then you're a contributor)
> >>>> > - There always has to be a dev@ thread before a ticket can be
> >>>> created.
> >>>> > That
> >>>> > thread has to be linked in that said ticket.
> >>>> > - Always search for a solution yourself (self-service) before
> >>>> engaging with
> >>>> > Apache Infra.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I'm not sure about a good place to document these guidelines. If
> >>>> somebody
> >>>> > has a good idea where we should write them down, please feel free to
> >>>> drop
> >>>> > me a link and I'll paste them in there.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Thanks everybody for the great collaboration around Apache Infra
> >>>> tickets!
> >>>> > This was a prime example of a community working together.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Best regards,
> >>>> > Marco
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>
>
Re: Apache Infra tickets for MXNet
Posted by Marco de Abreu <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
- Resending since I sent it to the wrong list -
Thank you Steffen and Michael!
I have created a new page at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Contacting+Apache+Infrastructure.
I'd appreciate a review.
Best regards,
Marco
On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 8:54 PM Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org> wrote:
> LGTM, thanks again for taking care of this for the project
>
> Mike
>
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 1:10 PM Marco de Abreu <
> marco.g.abreu@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Steffen and Michael!
>>
>> I have created a new page at
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Contacting+Apache+Infrastructure.
>> I'd appreciate a review.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Marco
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 4:23 PM Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for working through that with infra Marco. I think the process
>>> you outlined is good and being able to submit tickets without mentor
>>> approval is good for the project.
>>>
>>> Whoever puts the process on the wiki please reply with a link.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 11:45 PM Steffen Rochel <st...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Marco. Cwiki seems a good place to document the policy.
>>>> Steffen
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 8:06 PM Marco de Abreu
>>>> <ma...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hello everyone,
>>>> >
>>>> > I have just had a nice conversation with Greg Stein, VP of Apache
>>>> Infra,
>>>> > about the topic of creating tickets against Apache Infra.
>>>> >
>>>> > In the past, we had the restriction that only IPMC members (speak,
>>>> mentors)
>>>> > were allowed to file tickets against Apache Infra. This was due past
>>>> issues
>>>> > where tickets have been created without previous discussions on dev@
>>>> and
>>>> > from people who were not PPMC members, thus creating too much churn.
>>>> >
>>>> > During the last year, the MXNet community has shown that we are able
>>>> to
>>>> > adhere to the Apache ways. Thus the restrictions are being lifted and
>>>> the
>>>> > following policy get set in place:
>>>> >
>>>> > - Only PPMC members are allowed to create tickets (if you can see
>>>> > private@mxnet.apache.org, you're good to go)
>>>> > - Committers are not allowed to create tickets (if you have write
>>>> access to
>>>> > GitHub but can't see private@mxnet.apache.org, you're not a PPMC
>>>> member
>>>> > but
>>>> > a committer)
>>>> > - Contributors are not allowed to create tickets (if you're neither a
>>>> PPMC
>>>> > member, nor a committer, then you're a contributor)
>>>> > - There always has to be a dev@ thread before a ticket can be
>>>> created.
>>>> > That
>>>> > thread has to be linked in that said ticket.
>>>> > - Always search for a solution yourself (self-service) before
>>>> engaging with
>>>> > Apache Infra.
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm not sure about a good place to document these guidelines. If
>>>> somebody
>>>> > has a good idea where we should write them down, please feel free to
>>>> drop
>>>> > me a link and I'll paste them in there.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks everybody for the great collaboration around Apache Infra
>>>> tickets!
>>>> > This was a prime example of a community working together.
>>>> >
>>>> > Best regards,
>>>> > Marco
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>